Warning For Vets And Gun Owners

Started by Solar, October 18, 2010, 02:22:51 PM

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From an email.
And I can attest to the questions, I have been asked those very same questions by the VA.

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Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks
From a Vietnam Vet and retired  Police Officer: 
I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something  very interesting that I would like to pass along.  While going through triage  before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:   
1. Did I feel stressed? 
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to  someone?   
The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.  Looks like they are going after the vets first.   
Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next.  Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will  they have?  Be forewarned and be aware.
The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists.  Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, you've been warned.
If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them.  Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.
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Quote from: Solar on October 18, 2010, 02:22:51 PM
From an email.
And I can attest to the questions, I have been asked those very same questions by the VA.

FYI-Concealed Carry


Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks
From a Vietnam Vet and retired  Police Officer: 
I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something  very interesting that I would like to pass along.  While going through triage  before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:   
1. Did I feel stressed? 
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to  someone?   
The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.  Looks like they are going after the vets first.   
Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next.  Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will  they have?  Be forewarned and be aware.
The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists.  Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, you've been warned.
If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them.  Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

Did you check this out at Snopes?  I don't believe anything I get in an email until I check it out at Snopes. 

Solar

Quote from: crepe05 on October 18, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
Did you check this out at Snopes?  I don't believe anything I get in an email until I check it out at Snopes.
Nope, because I know for a fact that if a medical facility suspects that you could be a danger, they are obligated to contact the authorities.
Furthermore, this is the VA, they operate under different guide lines. I have no doubt that this is true, but I would think you would have to answer ye to all the questions, not just one.
But...who knows what the policy is form one director to the next?

Check out the story at Newsmax.
http://www.newsmax.com/JohnLott/veteransgunrightsWayne/2010/09/10/id/369798

Snopes is a liberal rag and not to be trusted, period!
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Quote from: crepe05 on October 18, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
Did you check this out at Snopes?  I don't believe anything I get in an email until I check it out at Snopes.

Sorry young lady but Snopes is the last place I would look for true that. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on October 18, 2010, 06:04:38 PM
Sorry young lady but Snopes is the last place I would look for true that.
Yep, the epitome of liberalism, they like just like the Dims.
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Veterans can lose their weapons permit if they answer yes to three questions in a medical exam-Fiction!


http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/v/va-test-permit.htm
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on October 18, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
Veterans can lose their weapons permit if they answer yes to three questions in a medical exam-Fiction!


http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/v/va-test-permit.htm
Then something is definitely amiss.

"Iraq Veteran Stripped of Right To Bear Arms," 5 News Ft Smith-Fayetteville tells us.

Why?

"A year ago the Irelan's began receiving a small stipend from Veterans Affairs because Lana had to take over the family's finances...The V.A. declared Wayne Irelan incompetent and now his right to own a gun is gone."

Why would they do that, and what are the repercussions?

"Irelan has post traumatic stress disorder from the Iraq war, but his wife says he has never been violent...The couple didn't know Wayne's gun rights had been terminated until they went to get a gun out of pawn. Days later Wayne got a letter from the Arkansas State Police saying his concealed carry permit had been revoked. The ATF has told the Irelans that they could go to jail if a firearm is found in their home."

How did such a state of affairs come to be?http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/va-atf-say-no-guns-for-iraq-war-vet
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Crepe, the husband/wife team behind Snopes are as liberal and Obama-supporting as it gets. They went out of their way during Bush's second term to downplay ANY good news about him, and are no better a source than some drunk in a tavern.

Solar

Quote from: walkstall on October 18, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
Veterans can lose their weapons permit if they answer yes to three questions in a medical exam-Fiction!


http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/v/va-test-permit.htm
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A spokesperson at the Veterans Hospital told TruthorFiction.com that all patients are protected by doctor/patient confidentiality and any information taken by the Veterans Administration (VA) is never shared with any outside agencies.   The only exemption to the case would be if a hospital were asked to assist in a criminal investigation.

There is one more thing wrong with their answer. They claim "Doctor Patient Confidentiality", but it isn't the doctor rthat asks the questions, it's a nurse, before you even get seated with a doctor.
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Hmmmmm is not a Doctors Nurse part of the patient Confidentiality? 
Where I come from there are.

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BILLY Defiant

Under HR 218 I can carry a firearm without a weapons permit in my registered State of Virginia without the regular ccw permit. However, I would never be so stupid as to answer any sort of question like this on a form.

Just a note, most medical clinics will not allow even an active duty police officer to carry his weapon INSIDE the premises.


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Solar

Quote from: quiller on October 18, 2010, 06:21:30 PM
Crepe, the husband/wife team behind Snopes are as liberal and Obama-supporting as it gets. They went out of their way during Bush's second term to downplay ANY good news about him, and are no better a source than some drunk in a tavern.
I swear, they mislead, and if the story is about a Dim getting caught, they actually write a summary as to why he was wrong, but was doing the right thing.

The Smoking Gun is by far more reliable.
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