If this is the best Walker has to offer the voters in New Hampshire..... he is on very thin ice.
Walker keeps it real - WaPo: "Calling voters 'folks' and boasting about his cut-rate suits from Jos. A. Bank, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker campaigned vigorously in New Hampshire...Walker's brash, populist pitch was a direct shot at his better-heeled GOP rivals and the likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he dismissed as out of touch as well as beatable...Walker presented himself as a natural fit." Fox News
IMO he doesn't seem to be in the top tier at all. He really isn't selling himself in a viable way. Are we looking for a President that is "in touch with" frugal clothes shoppers? ..... or do we want someone who understands the problems and has solutions to monumental problems our Nation faces?
.... look for his star to begin to fade soon....
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
If this is the best Walker has to offer the voters in New Hampshire..... he is on very thin ice.
Walker keeps it real - WaPo: "Calling voters 'folks' and boasting about his cut-rate suits from Jos. A. Bank, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker campaigned vigorously in New Hampshire...Walker's brash, populist pitch was a direct shot at his better-heeled GOP rivals and the likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he dismissed as out of touch as well as beatable...Walker presented himself as a natural fit." Fox News
IMO he doesn't seem to be in the top tier at all. He really isn't selling himself in a viable way. Are we looking for a President that is "in touch with" frugal clothes shoppers? ..... or do we want someone who understands the problems and has solutions to monumental problems our Nation faces?
.... look for his star to begin to fade soon....
You do have a link?
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
You do have a link?
Sorry Redbeard....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-walker-stresses-his-discount-attire-and-regular-guy-credentials/2015/04/19/d2aaf218-e6d2-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-walker-stresses-his-discount-attire-and-regular-guy-credentials/2015/04/19/d2aaf218-e6d2-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html)
Walker is undoubtedly a good guy. I just think he may be approaching his campaign from the wrong perspective.
Don't you think he would be better served to be focusing upon one or two of the BIG issues?
The Washington Post is a left wing rag and no more credible than MSNBC. The left hates Scott Walker! Many on our side like him for that very reason! The more the left "likes" one of ours, the more you have to worry about how much is that person really "one of ours". ! :smile:
Quote from: wally on April 20, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
The Washington Post is a left wing rag and no more credible than MSNBC. The left hates Scott Walker! Many on our side like him for that very reason! The more the left "likes" one of ours, the more you have to worry about how much is that person really "one of ours". ! :smile:
You may be right about that.
Can you find anything that shows Walker focusing on a big issue? That would help.
time will tell....It's a long way 'till November, as they say.....and it's even longer to November 2016! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: wally on April 20, 2015, 12:59:02 PM
time will tell....It's a long way 'till November, as they say.....and it's even longer to November 2016! :thumbup: :thumbup:
wally, wally, wally....!! If you expect to make a difference beyond your own single vote, time is a critical commodity.
We cannot sit back and wait for the parade to arrive at our block. We must find ways of leading the parade and that begins today!
If you think Walker is the best guy for the nomination..... please give us reason to join you.
Krozie, Krozie, Krozie.....simmer...there, now, Buddy! If I'm going to bet on a horse, I want to see it over a piece of ground, for far piece! Does he have the stamina? Sure he's a good runner on a sunny day, but how's he gonna do in the mud???? Once the Media Jockies (Jackasses) really begin whippin on all of them, I'd hate to have come out too early for one in the Lead who eventually either falls behind or even breaks a leg, and has to be put down. (Remember George Allen and "Macacca")
I'm a fisherman and that's taught me..Be Paitent!
Just because the lefties are "all in" for the HildaBeast, doesn't mean we have to follow their lame brain example. We have many great Leaders, a few real conservatives and ultimately one great conservative Leader is bound to emerge from the pack! That's on them...and it has very little to do with us...at this point!
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 12:28:40 PM
Sorry Redbeard....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-walker-stresses-his-discount-attire-and-regular-guy-credentials/2015/04/19/d2aaf218-e6d2-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-walker-stresses-his-discount-attire-and-regular-guy-credentials/2015/04/19/d2aaf218-e6d2-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html)
Walker is undoubtedly a good guy. I just think he may be approaching his campaign from the wrong perspective.
Don't you think he would be better served to be focusing upon one or two of the BIG issues?
QuoteGlancing abroad, Walker hit on common GOP criticisms, chastising Obama for his handling of "radical Islamic terrorism" in the Middle East and the U.S. relationship with Israel. He also nodded toward his own tutorials on the world in recent weeks, ticking off his concerns about U.S. policy on Yemen and Iran.
Turning to a possible general-election battle with Clinton, Walker reassured conservatives in the crowded ballroom that they do not need to change in order to woo independent voters or win the White House — a break from many Republican leaders who have expressed hope that the next nominee would mount a less combative and ideological campaign
Reading the whole article I think Walker did very good! He kept his attacks on Clinton with a couple jabs at Bush! His message was conservative and populous! I really liked were he told them he was going to ride his Harley through all the NH counties. If that isn't "one of the People" what is?
He never moved from his conservative principals even when nailed down on his opinion of gay marriage, Which I am sure was a loaded Question aimed at him!
Again I'm going to stress I am not on board with Walker or Cruz. I like them both but lately I find myself defending Walker on this site. Both of thee guys are looking really good but I'm not sure which one has the draw and staying power necessary to win in the general. If Ted was to stumble who would be your #2 pick? Rand Paul? Perry?
Quote from: wally on April 20, 2015, 01:15:35 PM
Krozie, Krozie, Krozie.....simmer...there, now, Buddy! If I'm going to bet on a horse, I want to see it over a piece of ground, for far piece! Does he have the stamina? Sure he's a good runner on a sunny day, but how's he gonna do in the mud???? Once the Media Jockies (Jackasses) really begin whippin on all of them, I'd hate to have come out too early for one in the Lead who eventually either falls behind or even breaks a leg, and has to be put down. (Remember George Allen and "Macacca")
I'm a fisherman and that's taught me..Be Paitent!
Just because the lefties are "all in" for the HildaBeast, doesn't mean we have to follow their lame brain example. We have many great Leaders, a few real conservatives and ultimately one great conservative Leader is bound to emerge from the pack! That's on them...and it has very little to do with us...at this point!
^THIS^ :popcorn:
Quote from: wally on April 20, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
The Washington Post is a left wing rag and no more credible than MSNBC. The left hates Scott Walker! Many on our side like him for that very reason! The more the left "likes" one of ours, the more you have to worry about how much is that person really "one of ours". ! :smile:
Wally, please remember to use the quote function.
Thank, walks
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 01:15:59 PM
Reading the whole article I think Walker did very good! He kept his attacks on Clinton with a couple jabs at Bush! His message was conservative and populous! I really liked were he told them he was going to ride his Harley through all the NH counties. If that isn't "one of the People" what is?
He never moved from his conservative principals even when nailed down on his opinion of gay marriage, Which I am sure was a loaded Question aimed at him!
Again I'm going to stress I am not on board with Walker or Cruz. I like them both but lately I find myself defending Walker on this site. Both of thee guys are looking really good but I'm not sure which one has the draw and staying power necessary to win in the general. If Ted was to stumble who would be your #2 pick? Rand Paul? Perry?
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I am with redbeard on this one. It is great to have two solid conservatives in the race at this point. Either would be better than what the GOP ran in 2008 and 2012. There is no need to make a decision just yet. To answer kroz in an earlier post, at this stage of the game the candidates are just trying to find some separation points without criticizing fellow republicans. That is fine. It is OK to concentrate criticism on Hillary and define her at this point
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 01:15:59 PM
Reading the whole article I think Walker did very good! He kept his attacks on Clinton with a couple jabs at Bush! His message was conservative and populous! I really liked were he told them he was going to ride his Harley through all the NH counties. If that isn't "one of the People" what is?
He never moved from his conservative principals even when nailed down on his opinion of gay marriage, Which I am sure was a loaded Question aimed at him!
Again I'm going to stress I am not on board with Walker or Cruz. I like them both but lately I find myself defending Walker on this site. Both of thee guys are looking really good but I'm not sure which one has the draw and staying power necessary to win in the general. If Ted was to stumble who would be your #2 pick? Rand Paul? Perry?
Walker would definitely be my fallback candidate. There is much to like about him. I do think he would make a fine President.
My biggest concern is that he would not be our strongest candidate in the General Election.
I would like to see more fire in his belly and strong statements on the big issues looming over our Nation. Attacking the Clintons and shopping at Kohl's are good things to note...... but not build a campaign around. He seems reluctant to wade into the deep waters surrounding big issues. WHAT would he do about the debt?..... give specifics. HOW would he handle ISIS? .... be specific. etc, etc.
I see Cruz, Rand, and Rubio addressing issues with answers. ....... not so much, Walker.
I really don't like Rubio's answers but they give me a better picture of how he would govern.
Rand's foreign policy scares the fool out of me..... but at least I know and understand his position.
Cruz has laid out specifics on a multitude of issues... which helps us see how he thinks.
I just wish Walker would give us more to chew on..... we don't know that much beyond his somewhat ambiguous immigration position. I know he has explained his previous statements which seem at odds with current statements, but I found his explanation less than convincing.
I have long been a champion of Walker's work in Wisconsin. I have a friend there and she keeps me informed of the details of Walker's administration. He is a very good Governor.
Maybe I am not seeing something really important about Walker. I need for him to inspire me. Does he inspire you? If so, is it because of his folksy populist rhetoric? Do you think that is enough to get him through the General Election?
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 20, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
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I am with redbeard on this one. It is great to have two solid conservatives in the race at this point. Either would be better than what the GOP ran in 2008 and 2012. There is no need to make a decision just yet. To answer kroz in an earlier post, at this stage of the game the candidates are just trying to find some separation points without criticizing fellow republicans. That is fine. It is OK to concentrate criticism on Hillary and define her at this point
Ronnie's 11Th commandment Don't attack a fellow republican or in this case Conservative!!
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 20, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
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I am with redbeard on this one. It is great to have two solid conservatives in the race at this point. Either would be better than what the GOP ran in 2008 and 2012. There is no need to make a decision just yet. To answer kroz in an earlier post, at this stage of the game the candidates are just trying to find some separation points without criticizing fellow republicans. That is fine. It is OK to concentrate criticism on Hillary and define her at this point
Jinx..... I think we posted simultaneously! :smile:
What you say is true. However, this is the time to set himself apart from his peers on the ballot. WHY should we choose him over Cruz? All the other candidates are making their mark on big issues. I would just like to see Walker grow stronger during this testing time. Treading water works for a while but the field of candidates is large and we need to be inspired by Walker. And Walker needs to be able to go the distance when the full force of the general campaign hits him. It will be full of pitfalls.
I want Walker to give me reason to focus on getting him elected.
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
Ronnie's 11Th commandment Don't attack a fellow republican or in this case Conservative!!
It is not my intent to attack. I began this thread with the wrong tone.
I just want to put the full force of my political efforts behind ONE candidate from the beginning. I do not wait until the Primaries are over before I get involved.
I am searching for someone to convince me to focus on Walker. I don't want to make a mistake.
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 01:50:37 PM
Jinx..... I think we posted simultaneously! :smile:
What you say is true. However, this is the time to set himself apart from his peers on the ballot. WHY should we choose him over Cruz? All the other candidates are making their mark on big issues. I would just like to see Walker grow stronger during this testing time. Treading water works for a while but the field of candidates is large and we need to be inspired by Walker. And Walker needs to be able to go the distance when the full force of the general campaign hits him. It will be full of pitfalls.
I want Walker to give me reason to focus on getting him elected.
What?? The primary hasn't even started yet! Only 3 have made official announcements! The official primary doesn't even start until the end of the year! It is way to soon to totally back anyone and run the risk of that candidate imploding! You talk about Walker but How do you know Cruz can go the distance?
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
It is not my intent to attack. I began this thread with the wrong tone.
I just want to put the full force of my political efforts behind ONE candidate from the beginning. I do not wait until the Primaries are over before I get involved.
I am searching for someone to convince me to focus on Walker. I don't want to make a mistake.
I am just an old farm boy once again. But I find putting all your eggs in one basket this early in the game is a very dangerous.
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 01:59:03 PM
What?? The primary hasn't even started yet! Only 3 have made official announcements! The official primary doesn't even start until the end of the year! It is way to soon to totally back anyone and run the risk of that candidate imploding! You talk about Walker but How do you know Cruz can go the distance?
Can't wait that long. I didn't even get a voice in the primaries. Ca comes in way too late.
Quote from: walkstall on April 20, 2015, 02:03:05 PM
I am just an old farm boy once again. But I find putting all your eggs in one basket this early in the game is a very dangerous.
If my eggs break, I grab another basket. Sitting back and not promoting a candidate is not in my DNA. If I want a candidate out front in six months, I need to work toward that goal today.
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
Can't wait that long. I didn't even get a voice in the primaries. Ca comes in way too late.
I fully expect to find my horse by the end of summer! Sooner maybe, but everyone should be paying attention. each of these guys will have good days and bad but it will take awhile to figure out Who is the strongest and has the best shot at winning the primary but most of all the general election. Not our fault you live in commie country and don't really have a primary! Hell your vote in the General election doesn't mean anything either!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: wally on April 20, 2015, 01:15:35 PM
Krozie, Krozie, Krozie.....simmer...there, now, Buddy! If I'm going to bet on a horse, I want to see it over a piece of ground, for far piece! Does he have the stamina? Sure he's a good runner on a sunny day, but how's he gonna do in the mud???? Once the Media Jockies (Jackasses) really begin whippin on all of them, I'd hate to have come out too early for one in the Lead who eventually either falls behind or even breaks a leg, and has to be put down. (Remember George Allen and "Macacca")
I'm a fisherman and that's taught me..Be Paitent!
Just because the lefties are "all in" for the HildaBeast, doesn't mean we have to follow their lame brain example. We have many great Leaders, a few real conservatives and ultimately one great conservative Leader is bound to emerge from the pack! That's on them...and it has very little to do with us...at this point!
Sorry that you do not see the advantage of starting early. So what if my horse breaks a leg? I can move to another horse. I don't have the kind of pride that would make me feel humiliated by a wrong pick early. I happen to believe that ordinary people can make a difference very early in the race. Actually, I think this is when we can be most effective..... when people are formulating their opinions.
Why do I need to be patient? I think it is healthy and profitable to vet each candidate thoroughly. We can only do that by dialoguing and bringing information to the table. Yes, we DO have more than one viable choice this time. That is wonderful. Now, it is important to bring as much light upon each candidate as possible. Why waste valuable time. This may take us a while. It won't happen in just a week or two. As the candidates reveal more information we should take note and analyze it.
A successful businessman does not sit back and wait for the competition to define his products. He does not wait to showcase his crown jewel. He promotes his product before it is even released for sale and inspires the customer to anxiously anticipate and want what he has to offer.
That is what drives leading manufacturers to excel. That is why people wait in line for iphones and Nike shoes, etc.
I want people excited about attending a rally for my candidate. Then they are more likely to be influenced by his speech and then they will in turn impact their own sphere of influence. It is a domino effect...... that can begin today.
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Sorry that you do not see the advantage of starting early. So what if my horse breaks a leg? I can move to another horse. I don't have the kind of pride that would make me feel humiliated by a wrong pick early. I happen to believe that ordinary people can make a difference very early in the race. Actually, I think this is when we can be most effective..... when people are formulating their opinions.
Why do I need to be patient? I think it is healthy and profitable to vet each candidate thoroughly. We can only do that by dialoguing and bringing information to the table. Yes, we DO have more than one viable choice this time. That is wonderful. Now, it is important to bring as much light upon each candidate as possible. Why waste valuable time. This may take us a while. It won't happen in just a week or two. As the candidates reveal more information we should take note and analyze it.
A successful businessman does not sit back and wait for the competition to define his products. He does not wait to showcase his crown jewel. He promotes his product before it is even released for sale and inspires the customer to anxiously anticipate and want what he has to offer.
That is what drives leading manufacturers to excel. That is why people wait in line for iphones and Nike shoes, etc.
I want people excited about attending a rally for my candidate. Then they are more likely to be influenced by his speech and then they will in turn impact their own sphere of influence. It is a domino effect...... that can begin today.
The race hasn't started yet! Now is the time to go down and look over the horses running before you place your bet! :popcorn: