Quote from: Solar on June 14, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
Rubio is dead, has been since the beginning, and Walker even mentioning him as feasible is seen by the base as a RINO backed move in keeping their boy, Rubio as a viable candidate, when the fact is, he was crashing like a moth that got to close to the flames.

Ask yourself, why would a supposed Conservative give a hand of support to an Establishment candidate? Unless perhaps he was following orders from the part elite, yeah, the Establishment RINO GOP.

No, this was no accident, not a friendly jab in the least, this is blatant support for a failed Establishment candidate that didn't have a prayer in getting elected as head Honey Dipper.

One other point, you said we run the risk of tossing out viable candidates.
You mean like we did in 2012, where the RINO hid in the bushes while we let the MSM pick them off one by one?, where the only candidate leftist standing was thier guy, Mitten?

No, we need to cull the herd right now, kick all the dead weight off the wagon, and most importantly, tell the GOPe to fuck off, we are selecting our candidate, not you worthless asses.
It's time to learn from past mistakes, stop letting the leftists set the narrative.

Well, just maybe not ALL the base sees this move as a hand up.  When a potentially major player starts referring to another hopeful player as second-seat, it is, in MY view, not a hand up, but a push down. Start people thinking of Rubio as second seat name.  Think about it from another perspective than the "Oh, he mentioned Rubio!"

Yes, Walker mentioned Rubio. And he put out the idea that he MIGHT CONSIDER Rubio as Walker's VP running mate. And I interpreted that as meaning "Hey, folks, Rubio is not really a viable presidential candidate, but if some of you still like him, you can vote for him for VP under my name."

I'll tell you this: if I were running for a political position, and an opponent told the people that he might consider me to be his second seat, I would NOT take it kindly.

Again, I simply do not see this as a hand-UP to Rubio from walker, but as a subtly ingenious put-down.

Quote from: zewazir on June 14, 2015, 07:45:24 AM
Well, just maybe not ALL the base sees this move as a hand up.  When a potentially major player starts referring to another hopeful player as second-seat, it is, in MY view, not a hand up, but a push down. Start people thinking of Rubio as second seat name.  Think about it from another perspective than the "Oh, he mentioned Rubio!"

Yes, Walker mentioned Rubio. And he put out the idea that he MIGHT CONSIDER Rubio as Walker's VP running mate. And I interpreted that as meaning "Hey, folks, Rubio is not really a viable presidential candidate, but if some of you still like him, you can vote for him for VP under my name."

I'll tell you this: if I were running for a political position, and an opponent told the people that he might consider me to be his second seat, I would NOT take it kindly.

Again, I simply do not see this as a hand-UP to Rubio from walker, but as a subtly ingenious put-down.

Historically I'd agree, but when Walker was give the chance to qualify his point and state Rubio would have to concede tier, he didn't.
To anyone battling to win a war, this is seen as conceding.
What he should have said was, There is only one outcome, a Walker/Rubio ticket, but he did not.

H: You like the sound of Walker/Rubio more than Rubio/Walker.

SKW: Yeah, I said, Marco and I joke about it, that people mention it, we'd probably just have to arm wrestle over who would be at the top of the ticket.