Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Carson is too naïve for politics.  He might be a good Surgeon General or something similar.  The other two are a waste of time.

I agree, aside the fact he has zero experience where leading the most powerful nation on earth is concerned..

Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 10:32:02 AM
Two reasons I don't back Carson. One, he doesn't understand the term "Core Values" as in understanding of the Bill of Rights.
The other, is the fact that it was the GOP that backed him speaking at WH prayer breakfasts over the years.
So what we have here is an unvetted by Conservatives, but vetted by the Establishment candidate.

Connect the dots, they will lead you back to the GOP.

I believe Ben Carson can be a valuable asset to the GOP nominee. He is articulate with a great story. His story can assist in further siphoning off votes from the Black community for the GOP. I can see him as a good secretary of HHS. Quite frankly I do not think he is tough enough to take on the democrats. We have tried that in the last two elections and we see what result that strategy brought us.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
I believe Ben Carson can be a valuable asset to the GOP nominee. He is articulate with a great story. His story can assist in further siphoning off votes from the Black community for the GOP. I can see him as a good secretary of HHS. Quite frankly I do not think he is tough enough to take on the democrats. We have tried that in the last two elections and we see what result that strategy brought us.

That is the reason I believe he is a GOP plant, he was chosen to split the ignorant side of the LIBertarian vote.

Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
That is the reason I believe he is a GOP plant, he was chosen to split the ignorant side of the LIBertarian vote.

I don't think Carson will last long if he decides to run. I just don't believe the field will be as large as the pundits say. Santorum, Huckabee, Fiorina, et all can't raise the money. Paul will last a little while because the "kids" will support him for awhile. I am not sure Christie can raise the money with Bush in. That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.

I'd be willing to bet that Jeb will eventually slip on a banana-peel with something like:  " They say I'm not a true Conservative... and they're right. "   400 days is a long time for someone like him not to have a 'hot-mike moment' in a Primary-race like this. 

As for Walker and Cruz, I think whoever expresses the tougher, more traditional type of foreign policy stances will separate the two.  I look forward to see the Senator visit England.  There'll be gotcha-answers to any gotcha-questions this time.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
I don't think Carson will last long if he decides to run. I just don't believe the field will be as large as the pundits say. Santorum, Huckabee, Fiorina, et all can't raise the money. Paul will last a little while because the "kids" will support him for awhile. I am not sure Christie can raise the money with Bush in. That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.

Agree, but I see Rand making it to the debates, but against Cruz, he'll be eaten alive, as well as Bush.
Walker on the other hand, like Cruz has core values, so the answers will come quick and from the gut.
Carson will stay, to bleed off votes for Bush, the GOP will see that he stay in the race via monitory channels.

Granted we're a long way out, but I see Walker and Cruz in it till the end, assuming nothing tragic happens.

Quote from: kit saginaw on March 24, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
I'd be willing to bet that Jeb will eventually slip on a banana-peel with something like:  " They say I'm not a true Conservative... and they're right. "   400 days is a long time for someone like him not to have a 'hot-mike moment' in a Primary-race like this. 

As for Walker and Cruz, I think whoever expresses the tougher, more traditional type of foreign policy stances will separate the two.  I look forward to see the Senator visit England.  There'll be gotcha-answers to any gotcha-questions this time.

Yeah, he's bound to show the real rino within, if it's possible to show more than he has already.
But who is waiting in the wings when it becomes obvious he hasn't a proverbial snowflakes chance?

Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:23:14 PM
Yeah, he's bound to show the real rino within, if it's possible to show more than he has already.
But who is waiting in the wings when it becomes obvious he hasn't a proverbial snowflakes chance?

For the RINO's?  They'd be stuck with Christie and Perry.  -But would probably drift to Walker.

Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:18:34 PM
Agree, but I see Rand making it to the debates, but against Cruz, he'll be eaten alive, as well as Bush.
Walker on the other hand, like Cruz has core values, so the answers will come quick and from the gut.
Carson will stay, to bleed off votes for Bush, the GOP will see that he stay in the race via monitory channels.

Granted we're a long way out, but I see Walker and Cruz in it till the end, assuming nothing tragic happens.

I agree but I think Paul will last a bit longer than most think.

Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 03:36:15 PM
I agree but I think Paul will last a bit longer than most think.

Oh, I agree, he has Mc CONells support and backing.

Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:42:10 PM
Oh, I agree, he has Mc CONells support and backing.

That and I think unlike his dad he has more support than just the pothead young crowd. But Walker and Cruz are the main contenders right now.  At least for me.

Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 04:14:29 PM
That and I think unlike his dad he has more support than just the pothead young crowd. But Walker and Cruz are the main contenders right now.  At least for me.

Yeah, he seemed to try and play the middle early on, and I think it was bad advice by the rino.
I believe they saw him as an early threat and needed to corral him, so McCONell made some magical deal with him and Rand accepted.

He originally had solid TEA support, but that quickly faded when he befriended the enemy.
Sadly the rino win on this one, because Rand will siphon off some votes, just hopefully not many.