US/Russia Peace Talks Without Zelenskyy/Ukraine?

Started by Solar, February 18, 2025, 10:08:34 AM

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Solar

It looks like Trump has no interest in talking to Zelenskyy, or anyone in Ukraine for that matter, he is focused on peace.

Foreign diplomatic sources close to the talks between Russia and the United States in Saudi Arabia have stressed that the US and Russia propose a three-stage peace plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then the signing of a final agreement. However, the idea of elections was later denied, explaining that Russia was pushing this point.

Negotiations between US and Russian delegations began in Saudi Arabia on 18 February. Russian media outlets reported that the parties will discuss economic cooperation and "the issue of the Ukrainian settlement".
The Russian side is represented by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Yuri Ushakov, Russian ruler Vladimir Putin's foreign policy advisor.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had said that Ukraine would not be participating in upcoming talks in Saudi Arabia and would not recognise any agreements made on Ukraine without Kyiv's involvement.

Hey Dumb Ass, You Weren't Invited!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/18/7498929/
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Quote from: Solar on February 18, 2025, 10:08:34 AMIt looks like Trump has no interest in talking to Zelenskyy, or anyone in Ukraine for that matter, he is focused on peace.

Foreign diplomatic sources close to the talks between Russia and the United States in Saudi Arabia have stressed that the US and Russia propose a three-stage peace plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then the signing of a final agreement. However, the idea of elections was later denied, explaining that Russia was pushing this point.

Negotiations between US and Russian delegations began in Saudi Arabia on 18 February. Russian media outlets reported that the parties will discuss economic cooperation and "the issue of the Ukrainian settlement".
The Russian side is represented by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Yuri Ushakov, Russian ruler Vladimir Putin's foreign policy advisor.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had said that Ukraine would not be participating in upcoming talks in Saudi Arabia and would not recognise any agreements made on Ukraine without Kyiv's involvement.

Hey Dumb Ass, You Weren't Invited!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/18/7498929/
Right decision, Zelensky just wants a world stage to keep the war going. I get a kick when liberals claim we need to save Ukraine's democracy. Zelensky shot that down when he canceled elections. What do you call a leader who cancels elections and doesn't step down? A dictator?  :lol:

Solar

Quote from: Possum on February 18, 2025, 11:34:28 AMRight decision, Zelensky just wants a world stage to keep the war going. I get a kick when liberals claim we need to save Ukraine's democracy. Zelensky shot that down when he canceled elections. What do you call a leader who cancels elections and doesn't step down? A dictator?  :lol:
I've got an idiot lib on the hook who only knows what the LSM told him to think.
It all started when I said Russia should for all intents and purposes be allied with us, to end all war.
He blew a fuse.
Here's his discuss link, he's all about hate for Russia. Scroll down to my post under Solar Solar, yeah, discuss screwed me when I was allowed to return, they deleted 100,000 of my posts.

https://disqus.com/by/disqus_iScaw5CnpK/
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Quote from: Solar on February 18, 2025, 11:41:29 AMI've got an idiot lib on the hook who only knows what the LSM told him to think.
It all started when I said Russia should for all intents and purposes be allied with us, to end all war.
He blew a fuse.
Here's his discuss link, he's all about hate for Russia. Scroll down to my post under Solar Solar, yeah, discuss screwed me when I was allowed to return, they deleted 100,000 of my posts.

https://disqus.com/by/disqus_iScaw5CnpK/

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Its alsways funny to see libtard cultists caught in their own delusions!
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Solar

Quote from: T Hunt on February 19, 2025, 05:28:47 PM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Its alsways funny to see libtard cultists caught in their own delusions!
I swear, the kid is an idiot! I just stuck a fork in him.
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Quote from: T Hunt on February 19, 2025, 05:28:47 PM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Its alsways funny to see libtard cultists caught in their own delusions!
I think I finally shut him up. I posted this and he disappeared.


Who started NATO, who supplies 90% of the weapons NATO uses, who rearms them, who decides what weapons their theater receives?
And you don't see whose being sold a bill of Goods? Wake up kid, we, the US has become the evil Empire we were fighting against with the USSR.
Don't make to stoop to your level with low intellect invectives, not because I'm losing, but you have become so implacably locked in a place of irretrievable ignorance, you refuse to acknowledge truth.
Take the Church, you literally just used the words of the Devil, in explaining why it was closed, and without a blink of sanity, posted it as reasonable.
Kid, that is literally the behavior of dictators throughout history, threatening his political opponent with imprisonment is another, yet you believed the opinions of others with like minds as he dictators, and you believe you stand in a position of truth?
Wake up Kid!

See, now with the truth thrown in your face about Obama, you try and ignore the cause of the war altogether and want to hide behind solutions?
Kid, until you correct the problem, you will never have a solution. But kudos for actually researching the real reason for the war, I'm getting through to you.
With that said, let's see if I can clear up who is actually to blame? Spoiler alert, We're the bad guys.
The NWO/UN/WEF Etc., all wanted this war, they used Biteme's feebleness to bypass any real obstructions, and yes, we now know it was Obozo pulling the strings.
Under GWB the US had entered into a treaty with the USSR prior to collapse that part of the deal was, we would never put NATO on the Russian front.
Guess what Obozo did with Biteme lack of awareness? He broke the treaty and threatened to move NATO into Ukraine, furnished weapons to Ukraine's military. Stop listening to the words of liars and propagandists, search out the truth beyond your sources!
Now pay attention, Russia warned Zelenskyy, he'd send in troops to protect Russians, as they were on their way, Zelenskyy gave the attack order and started killing Russian troop on their way to theater.
But you wouldn't know that, because you weren't even paying attention yet.
Now tell me, if you were in Russia's position, what would you have done after an unprovoked murder of your people.



It's important to recognize the complex history and ongoing tensions in Ukraine, particularly regarding the Donbass region. In 2013, Ukraine was on the brink of a significant political crisis, and the situation in Donbass was a part of that broader conflict.

Kyiv, under the leadership of then-President Viktor Yanukovych, was facing widespread protests and civil unrest due to the government's sudden decision to abandon an association agreement with the European Union and instead favor closer ties with Russia. This decision sparked outrage among many Ukrainians who desired a more Western-oriented future.

The Donbass region, which is predominantly Russian-speaking, has historically maintained strong cultural and economic ties with Russia. When the protests erupted, pro-Russian separatists in Donbass saw an opportunity to assert their autonomy and potentially join Russia. This led to armed conflicts between Ukrainian government forces and these separatists, with both sides accusing each other of aggression.

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