Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
11/19/21

Looks like the Democrats are getting far more than they ever dreamed possible, largely because of Mitch McConnell's idiotic move of giving in on the Debt Ceiling and giving them two months to get their act together. They are destroying our Country! We have been put in a much worse negotiating position, but we have the "Trump Card," and it's called the Debt Ceiling. If they don't drop this horrendous, Communistic style Bill that will be ruinous to all we stand for as a Country, we should not approve a Debt Ceiling increase. The Old Broken Crow has to be willing to play this hand, not like last time when he folded up like a cheap umbrella. Play it and mean it, because the Debt Ceiling is far less destructive than the Bill that they will otherwise successfully pass, especially when added to the "Unfrastructure" Bill that was just so stupidly approved. Republicans should not have allowed the separation, McConnell should not have given a two month reprieve, but it is what it is. Win with the Debt Ceiling, or resign!

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Im betting they will fold  like  cheap suits.

Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2021, 07:08:53 PMStatement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
11/19/21

Looks like the Democrats are getting far more than they ever dreamed possible, largely because of Mitch McConnell's idiotic move of giving in on the Debt Ceiling and giving them two months to get their act together. They are destroying our Country! We have been put in a much worse negotiating position, but we have the "Trump Card," and it's called the Debt Ceiling. If they don't drop this horrendous, Communistic style Bill that will be ruinous to all we stand for as a Country, we should not approve a Debt Ceiling increase. The Old Broken Crow has to be willing to play this hand, not like last time when he folded up like a cheap umbrella. Play it and mean it, because the Debt Ceiling is far less destructive than the Bill that they will otherwise successfully pass, especially when added to the "Unfrastructure" Bill that was just so stupidly approved. Republicans should not have allowed the separation, McConnell should not have given a two month reprieve, but it is what it is. Win with the Debt Ceiling, or resign!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news

The thing is that there is MUCH more at stake that some term "debt ceiling". More debt will be cast upon our kids, Grandkids and for generations to come. We will either have to pay that debt back or it will bankrupt the country. Either way, it's not going to be pleasant for the citizens of the United States!

Quote from: RV on November 21, 2021, 05:00:44 AMThe thing is that there is MUCH more at stake that some term "debt ceiling". More debt will be cast upon our kids, Grandkids and for generations to come. We will either have to pay that debt back or it will bankrupt the country. Either way, it's not going to be pleasant for the citizens of the United States!

True. But there's one equation that is never taken into consideration.
The world needs US stability. Their very existence is due to a stable America.
If the rest of the world wanted, they could easily eliminate us through the petrol dollar, but they don't.

We're that anchor all economies rely on for stability and trade, even when they hate us, they need us.
We could totally fuck up our own system, and even our enemies would try and keep us propped up because they need us.

Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2021, 05:40:45 AMTrue. But there's one equation that is never taken into consideration.
The world needs US stability. Their very existence is due to a stable America.
If the rest of the world wanted, they could easily eliminate us through the petrol dollar, but they don't.

We're that anchor all economies rely on for stability and trade, even when they hate us, they need us.
We could totally fuck up our own system, and even our enemies would try and keep us propped up because they need us.

China more so than anyone out there. China can puff out their chest and sneak money under the table to democrats and rinos, but they can not even feed there own people. Take away China's bull sh-t and you are not left with much. A country that relies on bribes has no economic policy. Now look at where the U.S. would be without rino's and democrats constantly voting to screw us over.

Quote from: Possum on November 21, 2021, 05:47:59 AMChina more so than anyone out there. China can puff out their chest and sneak money under the table to democrats and rinos, but they can not even feed there own people. Take away China's bull sh-t and you are not left with much. A country that relies on bribes has no economic policy. Now look at where the U.S. would be without rino's and democrats constantly voting to screw us over.

That's the point. The CCP does not play fairly with its own economy and the world sees that, The Ruble is too unstable, the Rupee isn't worth a shit, the Korean Won is too small as well as the Japanese Yen and forget the Arabic dirham or the EU piece of shit Euro.

Nope, when push comes to shove, the world needs the dollar to exist.

Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2021, 05:56:17 AMThat's the point. The CCP does not play fairly with its own economy and the world sees that, The Ruble is too unstable, the Rupee isn't worth a shit, the Korean Won is too small as well as the Japanese Yen and forget the Arabic dirham or the EU piece of shit Euro.

Nope, when push comes to shove, the world needs the dollar to exist.

You obviously have done your homework and it's clear that you know much more than I however, does the world know that they "need" the U.S.? Do our enemies know that they "need" the U.S.?

China for example is amassing a huge army and making strides technologically. It's been said that the U.S. doesn't have enough bullets to wound or kill all of the Chinese that stand ready to attack the U.S. Russia for example is amassing a huge and technological army. Terrorists are becoming quite savvy on computer warfare. I've heard it said that there are many areas where the U.S. is quite vulnerable. Given the fact that Communist countries couldn't care less about civilian casualties, where does that leave U.S. citizens? As we saw in the second WW, our enemies could band together and attack the U.S. together.

Quote from: RV on November 21, 2021, 06:11:37 AMYou obviously have done your homework and it's clear that you know much more than I however, does the world know that they "need" the U.S.? Do our enemies know that they "need" the U.S.?

China for example is amassing a huge army and making strides technologically. It's been said that the U.S. doesn't have enough bullets to wound or kill all of the Chinese that stand ready to attack the U.S. Russia for example is amassing a huge and technological army. Terrorists are becoming quite savvy on computer warfare. I've heard it said that there are many areas where the U.S. is quite vulnerable. Given the fact that Communist countries couldn't care less about civilian casualties, where does that leave U.S. citizens? As we saw in the second WW, our enemies could band together and attack the U.S. together.

china has most of their weapons aimed at their own people, you know, like the democrats dream of doing here.

Quote from: RV on November 21, 2021, 06:11:37 AMYou obviously have done your homework and it's clear that you know much more than I however, does the world know that they "need" the U.S.? Do our enemies know that they "need" the U.S.?

Of course they do, and they play it for all it's worth.

QuoteChina for example is amassing a huge army and making strides technologically. It's been said that the U.S. doesn't have enough bullets to wound or kill all of the Chinese that stand ready to attack the U.S. Russia for example is amassing a huge and technological army.

Guess where that misinformation originates from? Not the CCP, nope, our own fuckin Govt in hopes of keeping us off guard and ignorant.

QuoteTerrorists are becoming quite savvy on computer warfare. I've heard it said that there are many areas where the U.S. is quite vulnerable. Given the fact that Communist countries couldn't care less about civilian casualties, where does that leave U.S. citizens? As we saw in the second WW, our enemies could band together and attack the U.S. together.

Think of it as a fly attacking a sleeping tiger. Remember, our own govt needs us focused on the smallest of threats.
Just like the GOP uses the DNC as a threat to get us to vote for them, the same game plays out on the world stage.

All wars are avoidable, they are merely planned failed politics. Nam, a perfect example of manipulating the public. Sure, fighting commies was the idea, but LBJ didn't go into it to win and sacrificed young Americans for the lefts own evil goals. But that's another story of political greed, including both party's.

Truth is, there is an evil entity within our Govt that removed its soul to deal with the Devil.
I learned this decades ago when an FBI friend of mine who explained how they view Americans.
He said in their view we are seen as bugs, and at any time stepping on a few was not a big deal if it kept the status quo.
His job was to protect govt, not the people, he also said the CIA was the tool used to manipulate the world through created conflicts.

The world is an evil place and our Govt keeps this evil at bay by controlling global chaos through evil.
It took me decades to wrap my mind around the concept, but after seeing it in real time, I now put nothing past our own govt.

Trump came in with eyes wide open, and even he hit the wall of a Deepstate evil bigger than he knew existed.
Personally, I believe if the American citizen knew the truth, they just might give up on the idea of America.

Our battle has only just begun and we need to vote out every leftist in the GOP if we're to reverse this madness.

Quote from: Possum on November 21, 2021, 06:22:16 AMchina has most of their weapons aimed at their own people, you know, like the democrats dream of doing here.

         

True, they are fighting two battles and neither includes the US, they know better.
Their main focus is sucking in Taiwan right now and building their Belt Road, they will develop slaves out of smaller countries.

A war with the US will not only cripple their economy, but possibly bring on a civil war within the country.
What happens to Taiwan, is dependent upon the Marxists within our own country. (both party's)

Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2021, 06:43:05 AM         

True, they are fighting two battles and neither includes the US, they know better.
Their main focus is sucking in Taiwan right now and building their Belt Road, they will develop slaves out of smaller countries.

A war with the US will not only cripple their economy, but possibly bring on a civil war within the country.
What happens to Taiwan, is dependent upon the Marxists within our own country. (both party's)

They are already winning the war against  us. One example  is they will be using fossil fuels to grow while we will depend  on green energy to contract.

Quote from: ldub23 on November 21, 2021, 07:50:56 AMThey are already winning the war against  us. One example  is they will be using fossil fuels to grow while we will depend  on green energy to contract.

Then stop voting for rinos. Trump had us exporting oil.

Quote from: Possum on November 21, 2021, 08:51:43 AMThen stop voting for rinos. Trump had us exporting oil.

He's literally a lost cause, he watches way to much TV.

Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2021, 06:35:47 AMAll wars are avoidable, they are merely planned failed politics. Nam, a perfect example of manipulating the public. Sure, fighting commies was the idea, but LBJ didn't go into it to win and sacrificed young Americans for the lefts own evil goals. But that's another story of political greed, including both party's.

So, are you saying that wars such as the war with Korea was not won because the U.S. intended not to win? That is a very different perspective than what is in the history books. Even today, the war isn't over, it's merely in cease fire mode.

Quote from: RV on November 21, 2021, 11:01:48 AMSo, are you saying that wars such as the war with Korea was not won because the U.S. intended not to win? That is a very different perspective than what is in the history books. Even today, the war isn't over, it's merely in cease fire mode.

It was a deal between the USSR and the CCP. Russia was supplying pilots to fight us in Korea, and we didn't have the air force to deal with it not to mention war fatigue on our part and causalities.
In essence it turned out to be a draw and the CCP kept North Korea.

Russia and China did not want the US on the doorstep of the CCP, so a bargain was struck and NK was a sacrifice.

There is a lot of info on the actual inner workings of the war, not what we were taught in school at all.