Trump: Women Should Be Punished For Having Abortion

Started by mrconservative, March 30, 2016, 11:56:06 AM

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supsalemgr

Quote from: DwayneHoover on March 30, 2016, 01:47:48 PM
He has no good opinions because he can change them all of the time.When questioned over and over again he refused to answer what the punishment would be for having a abortion.I bet he doesn't care cause he can always send a woman to Switzerland or some other liberal place.

You obviously did not see my post. If you are going to join this board, please offer some substance.
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mrconservative

Here is the full transcript of the exchange between Trump and Chris Matthews regarding abortion. Its long but its a jaw dropper...


QuoteAUDIENCE QUESTION: Hello. I am (inaudible) and have a question on, what is your stance on women's rights and their rights to choose in their own reproductive health?

TRUMP: OK, well look, I mean, as you know, I'm pro-life. Right, I think you know that, and I — with exceptions, with the three exceptions. But pretty much, that's my stance. Is that OK? You understand?

MATTHEWS: What should the law be on abortion?

TRUMP: Well, I have been pro-life.

MATTHEWS: I know, what should the law — I know your principle, that's a good value. But what should be the law?

TRUMP: Well, you know, they've set the law and frankly the judges — I mean, you're going to have a very big election coming up for that reason, because you have judges where it's a real tipping point.

MATTHEWS: I know.

TRUMP: And with the loss the Scalia, who was a very strong conservative...

MATTHEWS: I understand.

TRUMP: ... this presidential election is going to be very important, because when you say, "what's the law, nobody knows what's the law going to be. It depends on who gets elected, because somebody is going to appoint conservative judges and somebody is going to appoint liberal judges, depending on who wins.

MATTHEWS: I know. I never understood the pro-life position.

TRUMP: Well, a lot of people do understand.

MATTHEWS: I never understood it. Because I understand the principle, it's human life as people see it.

TRUMP: Which it is.

MATTHEWS: But what crime is it?

TRUMP: Well, it's human life.

MATTHEWS: No, should the woman be punished for having an abortion?

TRUMP: Look...

MATTHEWS: This is not something you can dodge.

TRUMP: It's a — no, no...

MATTHEWS: If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under law. Should abortion be punished?

TRUMP: Well, people in certain parts of the Republican Party and Conservative Republicans would say, "yes, they should be punished."

MATTHEWS: How about you?

TRUMP: I would say that it's a very serious problem. And it's a problem that we have to decide on. It's very hard.

MATTHEWS: But you're for banning it?

TRUMP: I'm going to say — well, wait. Are you going to say, put them in jail? Are you — is that the (inaudible) you're talking about?

MATTHEWS: Well, no, I'm asking you because you say you want to ban it. What does that mean?

TRUMP: I would — I am against — I am pro-life, yes.

MATTHEWS: What is ban — how do you ban abortion? How do you actually do it?

TRUMP: Well, you know, you will go back to a position like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places

MATTHEWS: Yes?

TRUMP: But you have to ban it

MATTHEWS: You banning, they go to somebody who flunked out of medical school.

TRUMP: Are you Catholic?

MATTHEWS: Yes, I think...

TRUMP: And how do you feel about the Catholic Church's position?

MATTHEWS: Well, I accept the teaching authority of my Church on moral issues

TRUMP: I know, but do you know their position on abortion?

MATTHEWS: Yes, I do

TRUMP: And do you concur with the position?

MATTHEWS: I concur with their moral position but legally, I get to the question — here's my problem with it...

(LAUGHTER)

TRUMP: No, no, but let me ask you, but what do you say about your Church?

MATTHEWS: It's not funny.

TRUMP: Yes, it's really not funny

What do you say about your church? They're very, very strong.

MATTHEWS: They're allowed to — but the churches make their moral judgments, but you running for president of the United States will be chief executive of the United
States. Do you believe...

TRUMP: No, but...

MATTHEWS: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle?

TRUMP: The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment

MATTHEWS: For the woman

TRUMP: Yes, there has to be some form

MATTHEWS: Ten cents? Ten years? What?

TRUMP: Let me just tell you — I don't know. That I don't know. That I don't know.

MATTHEWS: Why not

TRUMP: I don't know.

MATTHEWS: You take positions on everything else.

TRUMP: Because I don't want to — I frankly, I do take positions on everything else. It's a very complicated position.

MATTHEWS: But you say, one, that you're pro-life meaning that you want to ban it

TRUMP: But wait a minute, wait a minute. But the Catholic Church is pro-life

MATTHEWS: I'm not talking about my religion.

TRUMP: No, no, I am talking about your religion. Your religion — I mean, you say that you're a very good Catholic. Your religion is your life. Let me ask you this..

MATTHEWS: I didn't say very good. I said I'm Catholic (LAUGHTER) And secondly, I'm asking — you're running for President.

TRUMP: No, no...

MATTHEWS: I'm not.

TRUMP: Chris — Chris.

MATTHEWS: I'm asking you, what should a woman face if she chooses to have an abortion?

TRUMP: I'm not going to do that.

MATTHEWS: Why not?

TRUMP: I'm not going to play that game.

MATTHEWS: Game?

TRUMP: You have...

MATTHEWS: You said you're pro-life.

TRUMP: I am pro-life.

MATTHEWS: That means banning abortion

TRUMP: And so is the Catholic Church pro-life.

MATTHEWS: But they don't control the — this isn't Spain, the Church doesn't control the government

TRUMP: What is the punishment under the Catholic Church? What is the...

MATTHEWS: Let me give something from the New Testament, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." Don't ask me about my religion.

TRUMP: No, no...

MATTHEWS: I'm asking you. You want to be president of the United States.

TRUMP: You told me that...

MATTHEWS: You tell me what the law should be.

TRUMP: I have — I have not determined...

MATTHEWS: Just tell me what the law should be. You say you're pro-life.

TRUMP: I am pro-life.

MATTHEWS: What does that mean

TRUMP: With exceptions. I am pro-life. I have not determined what the punishment would be.

MATTHEWS: Why not?

TRUMP: Because I haven't determined it

MATTHEWS: When you decide to be pro-life, you should have thought of it. Because...

TRUMP: No, you could ask anybody who is pro-life...

MATTHEWS: OK, here's the problem — here's my problem with this, if you don't have a punishment for abortion — I don't believe in it, of course — people are going to find a way to have an abortion.

TRUMP: You don't believe in what?

MATTHEWS: I don't believe in punishing anybody for having an abortion

TRUMP: OK, fine. OK, (inaudible)/

MATTHEWS: Of course not. I think it's a woman's choice.

TRUMP: So you're against the teachings of your Church?

MATTHEWS: I have a view — a moral view — but I believe we live in a free country, and I don't want to live in a country so fascistic that it could stop a person from making that decision.

TRUMP: But then you are...

MATTHEWS: That would be so invasive.

TRUMP: I know but I've heard you speaking...

MATTHEWS: So determined of a society that I wouldn't able — one we are familiar with. And Donald Trump, you wouldn't be familiar with.

TRUMP: But I've heard you speaking so highly about your religion and your Church.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

TRUMP: Your Church is very, very strongly as you know, pro-life.

MATTHEWS: I know.

TRUMP: What do you say to your Church?

MATTHEWS: I say, I accept your moral authority. In the United States, the people make the decision, the courts rule on what's in the Constitution, and we live by that. That's why I say.

TRUMP: Yes, but you don't live by it because you don't accept it. You can't accept it. You can't accept it. You can't accept it.

MATTHEWS: Can we go back to matters of the law and running for president because matters of law, what I'm talking about, and this is the difficult situation you've placed yourself in. By saying you're pro-life, you mean you want to ban abortion. How do you ban abortion without some kind of sanction? Then you get in that very tricky question of a sanction, a fine on human life which you call murder?

TRUMP: It will have to be determined.

MATTHEWS: A fine, imprisonment for a young woman who finds herself pregnant?

TRUMP: It will have to be determined.

MATTHEWS: What about the guy that gets her pregnant? Is he responsible under the law for these abortions? Or is he not responsible for an abortion?

TRUMP: Well, it hasn't — it hasn't — different feelings, different people. I would say no.

MATTHEWS: Well, they're usually involved. Anyway, much more from the audience here at the University of Wisconsin, Green Bay. We'll be right back.
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mrconservative

Trump's Campaign has now put out a statement on Trump's abortion comments

The power of the American people, when we rise up and stand for liberty, knows no bounds. - Ted Cruz

#NEVERTRUMP

quiller

Quote from: mrconservative on March 30, 2016, 11:56:06 AM
Now, I am very pro life, but this is just insanity...

Only if the women get to use scissors for a little punishment of their own.

Wow: can't wait to hear how racist this is, telling welfare mommas they can't squirt out this year's deductions. Or the women in the GOP telling him, this is NOT the 16th Century and you ARE NOT our candidate.

mdgiles

Quote from: DwayneHoover on March 30, 2016, 01:47:48 PM
He has no good opinions because he can change them all of the time.When questioned over and over again he refused to answer what the punishment would be for having a abortion.I bet he doesn't care cause he can always send a woman to Switzerland or some other liberal place.
Actually the rules on getting an abortion are far stricter in Europe than they are here. See this article in The Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/in-liberal-europe-abortion-laws-come-with-their-own-restrictions/278350/
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

Solar

Quote from: mrconservative on March 30, 2016, 02:13:06 PM
Here is the full transcript of the exchange between Trump and Chris Matthews regarding abortion. Its long but its a jaw dropper...
For the record. To our readers, as Conservatives, Trump is full of shit!
No, as Conservatives we do not believe women should be punished, if anything, educated on their ignorance, but having an abortion is generally punishment enough for the majority of women and a burden they will carry their entire life for taking a life.

QuoteTRUMP: Well, people in certain parts of the Republican Party and Conservative Republicans would say, "yes, they should be punished."
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kit saginaw

It's the woman's decision, and sometimes a medical-decision for an abortion to happen.  Trump should've said that.

quiller


DwayneHoover

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 30, 2016, 02:10:43 PM
You obviously did not see my post. If you are going to join this board, please offer some substance.
Then you need to have me banned.I already see what kind of person you are.First you must not have read the post by Dori before you wrote your last wrong post an then you attack me.I will make it a point not to reply to your posts an you should not reply to mine unless you can post correct an quit calling me a baiter.

quiller

Fighting vulgarians, American-style.....

QuotePeriod pants that let women 'bleed on Donald Trump's face' are so popular they're selling out.

'Bloody Marys Undies', an American company that creates the knickers with faces of Republican who want to hinder women's access to abortions and birth control, has received an "overwhelming number of orders."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/donald-trump-period-knickers-are-a-hit-with-american-women/

Dori

Trump wasn't only interviewed by Matthews today.

Trump vows to appoint Supreme Court justices who will investigate Hillary Clinton's emails

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Good Morning America on Wednesday that he would appoint Supreme Court justices who would investigate Hillary Clinton's emails.

^Trump is clueless about what the Supreme Court does.  They don't do investigations. 

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

Solar

Quote from: Dori on March 30, 2016, 07:11:11 PM
Trump wasn't only interviewed by Matthews today.

Trump vows to appoint Supreme Court justices who will investigate Hillary Clinton's emails

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Good Morning America on Wednesday that he would appoint Supreme Court justices who would investigate Hillary Clinton's emails.

^Trump is clueless about what the Supreme Court does.  They don't do investigations.
WOW!!! Even libs know this.
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walkstall

Quote from: Dori on March 30, 2016, 07:11:11 PM
Trump wasn't only interviewed by Matthews today.

Trump vows to appoint Supreme Court justices who will investigate Hillary Clinton's emails

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Good Morning America on Wednesday that he would appoint Supreme Court justices who would investigate Hillary Clinton's emails.

^Trump is clueless about what the Supreme Court does.  They don't do investigations.

Please let Trump keep making a fool of himself.   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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AmericanMom

Quote from: walkstall on March 30, 2016, 08:19:20 PM
Please let Trump keep making a fool of himself.   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The problem is, he can keep making a fool of himself and his followers including those in the media will make excuses for him. Was watching Megan Kelly and it broke my heart to hear Hermin Cain make excuse after excuse ..
My hope is that those that were on the fence are waking up.
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quiller

Quote from: walkstall on March 30, 2016, 08:19:20 PM
Please let Trump keep making a fool of himself.   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You only bet on sure things, do you?....  :lol: