Four hundred billion dollars...and for what?
QuotePresidential candidate Donald Trump's plan to deport all undocumented immigrants would cost between $400 billion and $600 billion and take at least 20 years to implement, according to a report from the American Action Forum.
The report estimates that there are currently 11.3 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the United States. To deport them, these individuals would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported back to the country they originated from.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-deportation-plan-400-billion/
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
And then they turn around and come right back in, while Cruz's plan is cost neutral considering the laws are already in place, and merely need enforcement.
Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Four hundred billion dollars...and for what?
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-deportation-plan-400-billion/
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
Good news for TX as long as they keep them from voting. More conservative districts.
Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Four hundred billion dollars...and for what?
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-deportation-plan-400-billion/
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
Yeah nothing like rewarding those sanctuary cities, with higher representation, for allowing murders and rapist to stay in the country
Quote from: mdgiles on April 04, 2016, 02:53:35 PM
Yeah nothing like rewarding those sanctuary cities, with higher representation, for allowing murders and rapist to stay in the country
The official claim to
that one, squire, is that even had Scalia
NOT died, it would still have passed.
Ouch.
Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Four hundred billion dollars...and for what?
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-deportation-plan-400-billion/
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
20 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT?? Hell the wall will be under water from global warming by then.
Does this include the cost of "The Wall"?
Not being a Trump fan (But all in for Ted) I think this is more leftist BS, Cruz is just as severe if not more so than Trump, so theoretically their plan would cost about the same. Which I don;t buy for one second that 400 hundred billion price tag.
Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
Which fits right into the politicians plan to increase the representatives in CONgress and the EC votes.
It's worthwhile to find out who and what has furnished the report that is quoted.
My opinion the Report is B.S.
The American Action Forum and its Sister American Action Network in their "About" stress strongly how they are CENTER RIGHT - that translates to the SAME crap as the RINO Republican Core.
It's filled with Lobbyists and Surprise - Surprise > read who else
http://www.americanactionforum.org/about/
explain as cogently and forcefully as possible why solutions grounded in the center-right values that have guided the country thus far still represent the best way forward for America's future
It will stay neutral in elections, and by and large will leave its sister organization, the American Action Network, to engage in any appropriate direct legislative advocacy in support of the policy proposals it discusses.
Elaine Chao Former Labor Secretary under Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Chao
She is married to US Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
Norman Bertram "Norm" Coleman, Jr., (born August 17, 1949) is an American lobbyist, lawyer and politician. He served as a U.S. Senator from
Wendy Grubbs Lobbyist Citigroup -former Bush Special Assist
http://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=24845
Michael Chertoff 2nd US Secretary Homeland Security under Bush,
co-author Patriot Act
Chertoff Co-Chairs the BIPARTISAN POLICY CENTERS IMMIGRATION TASK FORCE
My opinion the report is not worth using to try to nail Trump. It's guaranteed to to be dishonest considering the cast of characters. There are more.
Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Four hundred billion dollars...and for what?
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-deportation-plan-400-billion/
And meanwhile, the "divided" Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY 8-0 to count illegal aliens in the next census.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/
Think about it in the whole scheme of things. If it gets rid of the majority of the illegals, $400B is a bargain. Think of the savings on entitlements, law enforcement and lost jobs for citizens.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 05, 2016, 04:47:07 AM
Think about it in the whole scheme of things. If it gets rid of the majority of the illegals, $400B is a bargain. Think of the savings on entitlements, law enforcement and lost jobs for citizens.
Stopping people from hiring them would be a whole lot cheaper.
Quote from: s3779m on April 05, 2016, 05:07:03 AM
Stopping people from hiring them would be a whole lot cheaper.
True, but enforcement of any laws prohibiting hiring illegals would still cost enforcement dollars
My contention is the $ 400 B - $ 600 B is a Gross exaggeration that reflects a Central Pro-immigration Agenda loved by both Democrats and core RINO Republicans.
It would not cost $ 40,000 - $ 55,000 per head.
There has not even been a method floated. There have been deportations back in the 1930, Then Hoover had 1 million repatriated.
Truman's policies resulted in 3.2 million leaving voluntarily.
Eisenhower's policies resulted in another 3.9 million leaving.
The additional problem with the above report which is skewed propaganda is that every news agency grabs the report like some kind of mountainous gold nugget and repeats the result over and over ad nauseum.
That kind of reporting is contagious and endemic. I can read many news stories and they are virtual word for word carbon copies
Today the problem is much more prescient. We have about estimate 7 - 9 million Muslims demanding Sharia Law, that threaten our way of life.
Additional there are 11 to 20 million plus, depending on whose data you believe. They threaten our way of life as well. Neither group has been well integrated. The Muslims will """NEVER""" place loyalty to the US over Islam nor give up their drive for a Caliphate. Many of the Mexican and South America immigrants will always place their loyalty with their home country as they think the US Stole the South.
How exactly did they come up with this figure? I would suggest some should look at where this report originates.
Who was behind it. Who funded it? Is this person/persons pro-liberal pro-illegals?
So I went and found who put the report out, then found out who they are. What do they believe.
Hint: It wasn't a report made by conservatives.
That said I don't care what the leftists want to threaten us with.
I don't give one rats ass if it costs us 500 billion, or even a trillion.
I want my country back.
Our government can either do the job we create government to do in the first place.
Or we don't have a country and the government can go take a very long walk off a very short pier.
Because if it's not going to do it's job, we don't need nor want it.
Simple as that.
Quote from: daidalos on April 05, 2016, 11:25:35 AM
How exactly did they come up with this figure? I would suggest some should look at where this report originates.
Who was behind it. Who funded it? Is this person/persons pro-liberal pro-illegals?
So I went and found who put the report out, then found out who they are. What do they believe.
Hint: It wasn't a report made by conservatives.
That said I don't care what the leftists want to threaten us with.
I don't give one rats ass if it costs us 500 billion, or even a trillion.
I want my country back.
Our government can either do the job we create government to do in the first place.
Or we don't have a country and the government can go take a very long walk off a very short pier.
Because if it's not going to do it's job, we don't need nor want it.
Simple as that.
Anytime we hear a number out of Washington with a $ billion in it you rest assured it is a SWAG (Statistical wild ass guess).
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 05, 2016, 12:20:39 PM
Anytime we hear a number out of Washington with a $ billion in it you rest assured it is a SWAG (Statistical wild ass guess).
Pretty much....the President of the org. that put the report together was a director for the CBO. How often are they right?
Quote from: Dori on April 05, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Pretty much....the President of the org. that put the report together was a director for the CBO. How often are they right?
Actually almost always right, but in all fairness, they are usually given insufficient data and parameters to work within that guarantee the outcome the govt wanted, which was a designed lie.
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2016, 12:51:00 PM
Actually almost always right, but in all fairness, they are usually given insufficient data and parameters to work within that guarantee the outcome the govt wanted, which was a designed lie.
You must remember all the Bribery, Kickbacks and Payoffs that will be needed for something that big.