Quote from: Dori on March 08, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
Early results for Michigan

Kasich and Trump tied at 35, Cruz 19

I wonder, how many did what Romney called upon to do. Vote for the most likely person to beat Trump in each state despite supporting someone else. How many Cruz and Rubio supporters voted for Kasich in Michigan?

Mississippi just called for Trump. Exit polling shows a big win in Mississippi.

I'm looking at the first results from Macomb county. That is truly distressing. That's exactly the constituency Cruz needed to target. I've been saying it for weeks here, over a year generally. Both for the primaries and the general. To do better in Oakland county than Macomb shows his messaging has been wrong.

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 08, 2016, 05:25:22 PM
I'm looking at the first results from Macomb county. That is truly distressing. That's exactly the constituency Cruz needed to target. I've been saying it for weeks here, over a year generally. Both for the primaries and the general. To do better in Oakland county than Macomb shows his messaging has been wrong.

What site do you use to look at results

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 08, 2016, 05:25:22 PM
I've been saying it for weeks here, over a year generally.

You lie. You signed in here on January 15, 2016 and have NOT been saying things here for more than a year --- unless you ARE a troll and just gave yourself away here. Which is it, Sparky?

MY PROOF:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=6703

Quote from: mrconservative on March 08, 2016, 05:29:06 PM
What site do you use to look at results

http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/march-8th-gop/

Quote from: quiller on March 08, 2016, 05:29:43 PM
You lie. You signed in here on January 15, 2016 and have NOT been saying things here for more than a year --- unless you ARE a troll and just gave yourself away here. Which is it, Sparky?

MY PROOF:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=6703

Yeah, that's weeks. About eight, to be exact. "Generally" means in general....to other people, on other sites.

I'm happy to help you with your literacy issues, but really, your childishness has gotten out of hand. Forgive me while I ignore you going forward.

If Cruz cant win Idaho, momentum from Saturday is mostly gone.

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 08, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Yeah, that's weeks. About eight, to be exact. "Generally" means in general....to other people, on other sites.

I'm happy to help you with your literacy issues, but really, your childishness has gotten out of hand. Forgive me while I ignore you going forward.

You accuse someone of something, back down on proving it, slur management more than once on how they run THEIR SITE and yet you think we consider you to be a true conservative? No, Sparky, we do not. I just say it more colorfully.

Quote from: mrconservative on March 08, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
If Cruz cant win Idaho, momentum from Saturday is mostly gone.

Well, today never set up for him well anyway. Could have done better in Michigan, I think, had he targeted it.

The best news that could come out of it is if Rubio does badly enough he pulls out early. Even better if he decided to man up and back Cruz.

Quote from: mrconservative on March 08, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
If Cruz cant win Idaho, momentum from Saturday is mostly gone.

He isn't winning Michigan.

http://www.fox2detroit.com/michigan-election-results

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 08, 2016, 02:35:41 PM
Funny you should be offended by the response......but say nothing of the attacks.

All I've done recently is.....

1. Express an opinion that moderators/administrators here are too quick to ban people.

2. Point out that there is a poster who regularly starts threads with a pro-Russian (Kremlin) point of view.

3. Point out, correctly, that Ted Cruz will not win more than 1236 first-ballot, pledged delegates in the nomination process.

For these things, I am under almost unceasing attack. What, I'm not supposed to defend myself?

You have a poster who stayed up, or got up, at 3:30 in the morning to re-ignite a dead dispute which had no merit in the first place, who is importing old and trivial complaints from other threads that have no relevance here. In case you haven't noticed, I'm the one who is trying to steer the discussion back on topic (at least twice in this thread, for instance).

The response you quote me on is in direct response to yet another unprovoked attack on me, and doesn't reference the entire forum. Why would you assume I mean anybody except Quiller? And yes, I think Quiller's attacks, and his whole mentality is pretty stupid.

I didn't reference or imply you, or anyone else.

I have a fair amount of respect for you, and I am inclined to give consideration to what you say, but you'd have to explain to me why it doesn't cut both ways. I'd like nothing better than to simply stay on topic.

a.  I am not offended by anything you're said, apart from the mud slinging, you've had some interesting insight, and I'd like to hear more - minus the cutting comments. 

b.  Moderators own the system, they can ban whom ever they want, get over it - we are their "guests".
Nobody has asked me to contribute, the website isn't popping up ads right and left - yet someone is paying for it.   I can easily live within their rules, and the direction they wish to take this forum.

I'm not intending this in a condemning tone, but as advice, 'cause I'd rather listen to you, without the mud.  Consider it a compliment.

c.  Yeah, I ignore the Russian - when I figured out every link goes to RT (Russian Times), and did a little background checking.  It's not "our" call, if they want a knucklehead steeped in Communism posting stupid stuff ... well, we know there are others - just ignore them.

d.  From the internal polling, you and I agree, this primary is completely unpredictable - as I've cited 40% of the South Carolina were undecided 2 days before.  Cruz can indeed pull this out, I hope he does - but, both of us could be wrong and Kasich might surprise us all.  All speculation - nothing is fixed in stone.

I got hit a few times when I found this site, and I decided to stick around, because there are other SMART people here (like yourself), I wanted to talk to, and get their opinions.  One of the mods mentioned, you need to EARN their respect.... still working on that, we're not all lock-step, brain-dead, you're certainly not - but, any one of us can quickly wear out our welcome with just a few posts done in haste.

Cut both ways...?   We're riding in their Limo, Bus, back of their pickup truck.  They bought it, put the gas in it, we're guests.  The rest is your choice, if I can tolerate a Russian spewing propaganda (or ignore him) - I and certain, you could easily take the guy apart, chew him up, spit him out and use what's left as a doormat.  There are a lot of crummy systems / forums besides this, right?  We both have tough enough hides to ignore the insults, don't we?

Just saw where Trump is pulling way ahead of Kasich in Mich, Kasich is about 6% behind him, Cruz is at 20%

Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 08, 2016, 05:39:18 PM
Well, today never set up for him well anyway. Could have done better in Michigan, I think, had he targeted it.

The best news that could come out of it is if Rubio does badly enough he pulls out early. Even better if he decided to man up and back Cruz.

Right now, all signs point to Trump winning easily in MS. If Kasich and Rubio finish in single digits there and Trump wins by double digits, then that says to me that Rubio votes in MS have largely went to Trump and not Cruz.

Theres a 50% threshold to take all delegates in MS. That would be devestating if Trump broke 50%.

Also, it doesnt appears at the moment that Cruz getting the MS Gov endorsement has made little difference.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 08, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
a.  I am not offended by anything you're said, apart from the mud slinging, you've had some interesting insight, and I'd like to hear more - minus the cutting comments. 

b.  Moderators own the system, they can ban whom ever they want, get over it - we are their "guests".
Nobody has asked me to contribute, the website isn't popping up ads right and left - yet someone is paying for it.   I can easily live within their rules, and the direction they wish to take this forum.

I'm not intending this in a condemning tone, but as advice, 'cause I'd rather listen to you, without the mud.  Consider it a compliment.

c.  Yeah, I ignore the Russian - when I figured out every link goes to RT (Russian Times), and did a little background checking.  It's not "our" call, if they want a knucklehead steeped in Communism posting stupid stuff ... well, we know there are others - just ignore them.

d.  From the internal polling, you and I agree, this primary is completely unpredictable - as I've cited 40% of the South Carolina were undecided 2 days before.  Cruz can indeed pull this out, I hope he does - but, both of us could be wrong and Kasich might surprise us all.  All speculation - nothing is fixed in stone.

I got hit a few times when I found this site, and I decided to stick around, because there are other SMART people here (like yourself), I wanted to talk to, and get their opinions.  One of the mods mentioned, you need to EARN their respect.... still working on that, we're not all lock-step, brain-dead, you're certainly not - but, any one of us can quickly wear out our welcome with just a few posts done in haste.

Cut both ways...?   We're riding in their Limo, Bus, back of their pickup truck.  They bought it, put the gas in it, we're guests.  The rest is your choice, if I can tolerate a Russian spewing propaganda (or ignore him) - I and certain, you could easily take the guy apart, chew him up, spit him out and use what's left as a doormat.  There are a lot of crummy systems / forums besides this, right?  We both have tough enough hides to ignore the insults, don't we?

I appreciate the response. I'll holler back in more detail later. Right now I'm wrapped up in this results thing and reading a lot of other stuff.