Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 24, 2013, 10:20:01 PM
Ah so now you have shifted to probability.

Everything outside mathematical theorems are technically based on probability.  Literally everything.

QuoteGreat but you still have not produced an argument for making drastic changes to halt the 1.53 degree increase over a century that needs to include the largest producers. Nor have you explained how to get these countries on board.

OK boo man, if you're going to go down the path you need to stick to it.  Concede that global warming is as serious an issue as the entire scientific community agrees it is, and then we can discuss politics.  That you continue to mock the whole of scientific literature on the basis of your gut makes further discussion impossible.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 10:30:21 PM
Everything outside mathematical theorems are technically based on probability.  Literally everything.

"Probably" isn't a very convincing argument for limiting economic output.

QuoteOK boo man, if you're going to go down the path you need to stick to it.  Concede that global warming is as serious an issue as the entire scientific community agrees it is, and then we can discuss politics.  That you continue to mock the whole of scientific literature on the basis of your gut makes further discussion impossible.

I will as soon I experience any sort of effects from this terribly terrible forthcoming disaster. As it stands now all we have is your hysterical shrieking and assurances that it is happening but you don't know how bad it will be or when it will be bad and you don't know how to actually solve it. At the moment you aren't even sure about the hurricanes...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 24, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
"Probably" isn't a very convincing argument for limiting economic output.

Did you read what I just wrote?  Einstein's theory of relativity has a "probably" qualifier; the idea that China won't nuke us tomorrow has a "probably" qualifier, do you understand this basic limitation of empiricism?

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I will as soon I experience any sort of effects from this terribly terrible forthcoming disaster. As it stands now all we have is your hysterical shrieking and assurances that it is happening but you don't know how bad it will be or when it will be bad and you don't know how to actually solve it. At the moment you aren't even sure about the hurricanes...

I have presented a series of scientific evidence you feel you can refute with your personal say-so and gut feeling, yet again.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Did you read what I just wrote?  Einstein's theory of relativity has a "probably" qualifier; the idea that China won't nuke us tomorrow has a "probably" qualifier, do you understand this basic limitation of empiricism?

I thought you said global warming was happening. Not probably happening

QuoteI have presented a series of scientific evidence you feel you can refute with your personal say-so and gut feeling, yet again.

Yes and it was all lovely but somehow life seems to go on. So unless you have convincing evidence that will force people to pause from worrying about their healthcare you are sort of screwed...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 24, 2013, 10:52:40 PM
I thought you said global warming was happening. Not probably happening

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There's around a 98% probability by most computer models that it is manmade.  For common speech we don't always include the "probably" qualifier that technically underlies any claim.

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Yes and it was all lovely but somehow life seems to go on. So unless you have convincing evidence that will force people to pause from worrying about their healthcare you are sort of screwed...

I've presented evidence.  I cannot force you to recognize that the laws of physics are not bound by your gut.

Are these computer models put together by the crew that created the Obamafail site?

Quote from: quiller on November 24, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
Are these computer models put together by the crew that created the Obamafail site?

No, they're put together by various independent climate scientists with tens of thousands of hours of work and academic experience.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 10:55:18 PM


There's around a 98% probability by most computer models that it is manmade.  For common speech we don't always include the "probably" qualifier that technically underlies any claim.

So now you have backpedaled to probably and most...

QuoteI've presented evidence.  I cannot force you to recognize that the laws of physics are not bound by your gut.

Show me specifics sunbeam...

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
No, they're put together by various independent climate scientists with tens of thousands of hours of work and academic experience.

Opinion. Back it up.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 24, 2013, 11:01:38 PM
So now you have backpedaled to probably and most...

Are you hard of reading?

It's a fundamental fact of empiricism (read: science) that the fact that the sun will "rise" tomorrow is based on probability, not mathematical proof.  But I don't see you jumping over the "AHA!  IT'S NOT A CERTAINTY!" train over there.  This is, I think, the fourth time I've repeated this to you.  I hope I don't have to repeat it to you again.

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Show me specifics sunbeam...

I have.  At the time you chose to ignore them for your lord-of-the-flies esque booty dance.  I don't really feel like finding them again for you.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
I don't really feel like finding them again for you.

Translation: can't do it.

Quote from: quiller on November 24, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
Translation: can't do it.

That's what all his girlfriends say...

Quote from: quiller on November 24, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
Translation: can't do it.

Maybe you should go back and read this thread before you pass judgment, because I posted and reposted the evidence on a multitude of occasions.  So I know you think you sound clever, but you're really just full of shit.

Run away! - Monty Python and the Holy Grail

I admit, you're good at baiting people.  Shitty at understanding elementary physics, but I'll bite:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Peer-reviewed-impacts-of-global-warming.html

Here are links to a variety of peer reviewed studies.

I already posted this.  Thrice.