Quote from: Bad water BILLY on August 11, 2012, 07:27:16 PM
Another angry man hating leftist lesbian surrounding herself with women ...Hmm hard to beleive....



Billy

Sorry, was this directed at me?  I was trying to make the point that, I don't see unfairness.  If I miss spoke, or misunderstood, I am sorry.

Quote from: JustKari on August 11, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Sorry, was this directed at me?  I was trying to make the point that, I don't see unfairness.  If I miss spoke, or misunderstood, I am sorry.

Nah, it wasn't directed at you, he was commenting on the dyke.

Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Nah, it wasn't directed at you, he was commenting on the dyke.

Ah, okay.  I actually took some pain meds for a change and was worried I wasn't being coherent.

Quote from: JustKari on August 11, 2012, 08:05:53 PM
Ah, okay.  I actually took some pain meds for a change and was worried I wasn't being coherent.

I get that way when I'm hungry, which by the way, is most of the time.

Quote from: JustKari on August 11, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Sorry, was this directed at me?  I was trying to make the point that, I don't see unfairness.  If I miss spoke, or misunderstood, I am sorry.

NO NO NO!

This was directed at Big Sis and a snide reference to Janet Reno.


Billy

Quote from: JustKari on August 11, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
Women are made to feel like abuse victims by people on the left.  Women have no trouble voting, getting or keeping employment, or hearing anything more derogatory about them than men do.  Women just tend to be a lot more vocal when it happens.

Bullshit.  You would have to be a deluded psychiatric patient in a mental facility to deny that women have been socio-economically disadvantaged throughout much of world history.  They weren't even allowed to vote until around a century ago, for Christ's sake.  And prior to that, women in many cases could not even pray with men.  Much like racism, sexism is not a liberal invention. 

QuoteAs far as wages and raises, traditionally, men take less sick days, less vacation, talk on the phone less, and so (on average) produce more than a woman doing the same job.

Good smokescreen.  Now, where is that evidence?

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If a couple had kids, it is the wife that stays home with them if they get sick,  the mom is more likely to request to leave early to go to Jr.s soccer game.

Which is a bad thing...how?

QuoteAn employer takes those things into consideration when assigning a wage.

Which is bullshit.  This means a woman who does not take sick days and is more productive than her male counterpart would still be disadvantaged because of stereotyping.  This entire thread is made to complain over women being granted "special privileges", yet now you are actively admitting to, and championing, men getting such benefits.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 12, 2012, 07:22:07 AM

Which is bullshit.  This means a woman who does not take sick days and is more productive than her male counterpart would still be disadvantaged because of stereotyping.  This entire thread is made to complain over women being granted "special privileges", yet now you are actively admitting to, and championing, men getting such benefits.

This is rich as well, you are just a party barrel full of leftist propaganda, yet never once stop and think, that you are nothing but a tool of distraction for the commies.


War? Obama White House Pays Women Less Than Men

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/04/11/war-obama-white-house-pays-women-less-men#ixzz23LHBS9E7

Don't fall over yourself, Solar.  You accuse me of being a "barrel full of leftist propaganda", and then quote Fox News as a credible source of information.   

You know, the same news agency that claims science cannot explain how the tides work?  Or that Mars has no moons?  Or that there are WMDs in Iraq?

Now, they conduct the brilliant study of guessing employee gender based on their names, and then comparing salaries without controlling for performance, job description or working hours. 

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What's even worse about the article is that they do not give the impression of really caring about the income gap.  They don't say:

It's disgusting and unfair that the hard working women under Obama's administration are paid less than their male counterparts for the same work.

But rather:

HA!  See!  Women are paid less!  Liberals are hypocrites!

It's like the complaint that black babies and female babies are more likely to be aborted.  Whenever conservatives bring it up, none of them actually care about the discriminatory "genocide".  They simply use it as a "Ha!  Gotcha!" hypocrisy.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 12, 2012, 07:34:09 AM
Don't fall over yourself, Solar.  You accuse me of being a "barrel full of leftist propaganda", and then quote Fox News as a credible source of information.   

You know, the same news agency that claims science cannot explain how the tides work?  Or that Mars has no moons?  Or that there are WMDs in Iraq?

Now, they conduct the brilliant study of guessing employee gender based on their names, and then comparing salaries without controlling for performance, job description or working hours. 

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What's even worse about the article is that they do not give the impression of really caring about the income gap.  They don't say:

It's disgusting and unfair that the hard working women under Obama's administration are paid less than their male counterparts for the same work.

But rather:

HA!  See!  Women are paid less!  Liberals are hypocrites!

It's like the complaint that black babies and female babies are more likely to be aborted.  Whenever conservatives bring it up, none of them actually care about the discriminatory "genocide".  They simply use it as a "Ha!  Gotcha!" hypocrisy.

You are such a tool.
Sad, very sad...

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
You are such a tool.
Sad, very sad...

This addresses my argument...how?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 12, 2012, 07:42:30 AM
This addresses my argument...how?

Yes, it really *IS* all about you---tool.

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2012, 07:55:27 AM
Yes, it really *IS* all about you---tool.

It's "all about me" to expect that you address your opponents argument in a debate forum, rather than quoting it and saying something unintelligent like "you're a fucking tool"?   

None of you would last the cut of a middle school debate team.  You commit half a dozen logical fallacies every time you press "post".

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 12, 2012, 07:22:07 AM
Bullshit.  You would have to be a deluded psychiatric patient in a mental facility to deny that women have been socio-economically disadvantaged throughout much of world history.  They weren't even allowed to vote until around a century ago, for Christ's sake.  And prior to that, women in many cases could not even pray with men.  Much like racism, sexism is not a liberal invention. 

Good smokescreen.  Now, where is that evidence?

Which is a bad thing...how?

Which is bullshit.  This means a woman who does not take sick days and is more productive than her male counterpart would still be disadvantaged because of stereotyping.  This entire thread is made to complain over women being granted "special privileges", yet now you are actively admitting to, and championing, men getting such benefits.

This post is about OBAMAS war on women, yet you criticize me because I didn't go back into history twice his age?  Really?  You stated your question about the way women are treated in the frame of reference of today, yet get angry when I do not agree with you?

Secondly, the great majority of women DO take more time off than men, it isn't a bad thing, but from a business standpoint, you have to give a person less if they perform less.


In answer to your third point, no, it does not immediately mean she will make less, she could start out
at the same rate as everyone else and then make more or less dependant on wage increases, or lack thereof.

You can holler at me all you want from here on in, I am done feeding you, you are not here for civil discourse, you are not actually trying to debate, your style of posting (as evidenced above) is to ask a vauge question, or make a vauge statement, then attack the answer because it did not fit your criteria, that only you know.  I will not be baited into answering another post of yours.  I am sure you will claim that as a win.   Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a damn.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 12, 2012, 07:58:16 AM
It's "all about me" to expect that you address your opponents argument in a debate forum, rather than quoting it and saying something unintelligent like "you're a fucking tool"?   

None of you would last the cut of a middle school debate team.  You commit half a dozen logical fallacies every time you press "post".

Yet, here I just eviscerated your very "middle school debate" style.
Now who's the tool?

Ask him to show where I myself used the f-bomb. And then time him out for lying.