This is not helping our economy!!

Manufacturers are already hard at work churning out banners for President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign — in China.

According to a Reuters report Wednesday, China's Jiahao Flag Co. has produced more than 90,000 "Trump 2020: Keep America Great!" banners and flags since March, and the factory has ramped up production before Trump's threatened tariffs against all Chinese-made goods kick on.

The banners and flags cost about $1 each to make, Reuters said, and a factory manager said Trump's campaign suppliers appear to be trying to get their orders in before potential tariffs cause the price to rise.

There wont  be a  2nd wave and  its  only  killing  people who were dying anyway. if  you are very  old and  already  dying you  need to worry. The economy  is going to take a very  long time to recover.
A-people are being  paid alot not to work so they will be reluctant to work till the goodies are gone
B-Many small businesses are already  gone
C-Many places have  no intention to open up and  if Trump is stupid  enough to bail out states and  local govts the  house arrests will continue a  very  long  time.
D-Many businesses  have a tough time  making a  profit when they cant  be  more than half  full
E-If trump wants to get things  going faster then put the  jailed salon owner  on stage. Bring  unemployed  people  on stage. And, make  it  crystal clear that  unless you  fully  open up there will be  no money for  you.
F-Announce civil rights  lawsuits  in every  lock down state. Lawsuits, not statements  of  interest.

Quote from: Zouave on May 08, 2020, 02:47:20 PM
This is not helping our economy!!

Manufacturers are already hard at work churning out banners for President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign — in China.

According to a Reuters report Wednesday, China's Jiahao Flag Co. has produced more than 90,000 "Trump 2020: Keep America Great!" banners and flags since March, and the factory has ramped up production before Trump's threatened tariffs against all Chinese-made goods kick on.

The banners and flags cost about $1 each to make, Reuters said, and a factory manager said Trump's campaign suppliers appear to be trying to get their orders in before potential tariffs cause the price to rise.

are you one of those paid twitter trolls sent out to post this propaganda at internet sites?

Quote from: Patrick2 on May 08, 2020, 01:47:24 PM
This isn't just another flu virus.  Compared to the usual annual strains of flu, it has a mortality rate of 1%, compared to the annual flu of about 0.1%.  Further, it has an R factor of 2-3, versus the regular flu strains R factor of 1.  IOW, it is more infectious and far more deadly.  As to your herd immunity:  Eg, yaaaa, when the black death killed I/3 of Europe in the 14th century, the ones left had a high degree of herd immunity.  But isn't having people back off until we can get a vaccine a better way than letting huge numbers of people die to get herd immunity?

I said nothing about flu, this is a nasty virus, and to herd immunity, not everyone got sick from it, my doc suspects I've already had it when it first hit Ca.
It was one hell of a nasty cold with mild flu symptoms.
Regardless of the claims over a vaccine, this bug morphs constantly, meaning a vaccine is not 100% effective, not to mention all the variations that have occurred between the East and West coasts.
Calypso is Right, the left is actually killing people by forcing close proximity and hoping they can keep this going to kill Trump's economy to effect the Nov elections. Can you not see that?

Quote from: Patrick2 on May 08, 2020, 12:24:26 PM
Not if there's a second wave of covid infection.

Not if a meteor hits the Earth...

Quote from: Patrick2 on May 08, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
So this is just like the regular flu, but for some unknown reason, the governors decided to kill a lot of people by withholding medicine and medical devices?   Why did they do that THIS time - why not last year or the year before?

They thought removing Trump from office was a sure thing.

Quote from: Solar on May 08, 2020, 02:52:34 PM
I said nothing about flu, this is a nasty virus, and to herd immunity, not everyone got sick from it, my doc suspects I've already had it when it first hit Ca.
It was one hell of a nasty cold with mild flu symptoms.
Regardless of the claims over a vaccine, this bug morphs constantly, meaning a vaccine is not 100% effective, not to mention all the variations that have occurred between the East and West coasts.
Calypso is Right, the left is actually killing people by forcing close proximity and hoping they can keep this going to kill Trump's economy to effect the Nov elections. Can you not see that?

I can see it, i wish trump would  take  my suggestions. And to all extents and  purposes the epidemic  is  over.



    Horowitz: Simple arithmetic demonstrates that the epidemic, outside nursing homes, is essentially over
    By Daniel Horowitz · May 7, 2020

    We are weeks past the peak of coronavirus hospitalizations, yet the reported national death numbers keep rising 2,000 or more every single day. It made no sense to anyone who has followed the curves in any other country, but now we have our answer. The Hartford Courant reported that 90% of all deaths in Connecticut last week were in senior care facilities. This explains why these increased deaths don't make sense with the reality of empty hospitals in most places.

    This revelation should change everything we know about the current state of affairs with coronavirus. Governors are justifying the continued lockdown by pointing to rising deaths, sometimes significantly, in many states and counties. But it now appears, using simple arithmetic, that in most states, the overwhelming majority of deaths are in nursing homes, and in some states and counties, nearly every new death is in a senior facility. And in fact, even in nursing homes, it appears that while numbers are being recorded now, the actual deaths occurred earlier during the peak. Nothing else matters until this fact comes to life.
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Quote from: ldub23 on May 08, 2020, 03:04:16 PM


I can see it, i wish trump would  take  my suggestions. And to all extents and  purposes the epidemic  is  over.



    Horowitz: Simple arithmetic demonstrates that the epidemic, outside nursing homes, is essentially over
    By Daniel Horowitz · May 7, 2020

    We are weeks past the peak of coronavirus hospitalizations, yet the reported national death numbers keep rising 2,000 or more every single day. It made no sense to anyone who has followed the curves in any other country, but now we have our answer. The Hartford Courant reported that 90% of all deaths in Connecticut last week were in senior care facilities. This explains why these increased deaths don't make sense with the reality of empty hospitals in most places.

    This revelation should change everything we know about the current state of affairs with coronavirus. Governors are justifying the continued lockdown by pointing to rising deaths, sometimes significantly, in many states and counties. But it now appears, using simple arithmetic, that in most states, the overwhelming majority of deaths are in nursing homes, and in some states and counties, nearly every new death is in a senior facility. And in fact, even in nursing homes, it appears that while numbers are being recorded now, the actual deaths occurred earlier during the peak. Nothing else matters until this fact comes to life.
    ...


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Maybe if you lowered your asking price.

Quote from: Possum on May 08, 2020, 03:15:58 PM
Maybe if you lowered your asking price.

They are free for the taking

Quote from: Solar on May 08, 2020, 12:42:22 PM
What do you mean by lie? I'm dead serious, this is just another variation of bug that will now circle the globe forever, but after what the country/world just went through, they won't tolerate another shutdown.
Herd immunity is a powerful thing where life evolves.

I was attempting to explain to someone about the process of how society fights off viruses every year-flus, colds etc. However there was one obstacle that prevented me from doing so - herd mentality

Quote from: Patrick2 on May 08, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
So this is just like the regular flu, but for some unknown reason, the governors decided to kill a lot of people by withholding medicine and medical devices?   Why did they do that THIS time - why not last year or the year before?

I think you'd better consider the nursing home factor. Just ask Gov. Cuomo He'll be able to tell you about what killed thousands in NY. 
Yes, this is much closer to a regular flu than the deadly pandemic it was hyped to be.

Quote from: WMK on May 08, 2020, 03:51:36 PM
I was attempting to explain to someone about the process of how society fights off viruses every year-flus, colds etc. However there was one obstacle that prevented me from doing so - herd mentality

Quote from: ldub23 on May 08, 2020, 03:24:24 PM
They are free for the taking

And worth every penny.

Quote from: WMK on May 08, 2020, 04:01:53 PM
I think you'd better consider the nursing home factor. Just ask Gov. Cuomo He'll be able to tell you about what killed thousands in NY. 
Yes, this is much closer to a regular flu than the deadly pandemic it was hyped to be.

ANY flu, in fact ANY infectious disease, will kill old people more - that's because they have weaker immune systems. As I pointed out from the numbers, this flu is WAY different from ordinary flu.  TEN TIMES the lethality.
With an R factor of three (versus "normal" flu's R factor of one,) here's how the number of infected persons increases (absent any extraordinary distancing measures):


"Normal flu":    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10   11   12   13  ......

Covid19 flu:     1  3   9   27   81   243   729   2187   6561  ........

Quote from: Patrick2 on May 08, 2020, 06:16:11 PM
ANY flu, in fact ANY infectious disease, will kill old people more - that's because they have weaker immune systems. As I pointed out from the numbers, this flu is WAY different from ordinary flu.  TEN TIMES the lethality.
With an R factor of three (versus "normal" flu's R factor of one,) here's how the number of infected persons increases (absent any extraordinary distancing measures):


"Normal flu":    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10   11   12   13  ......

Covid19 flu:     1  3   9   27   81   243   729   2187   6561  ........

I think it will be less deadly than the flu with all the phony codings and probably 75-100 million infected.