America Is NOW A Socialist Police State.


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Obama and his fellow socialists in the White House and Congress probably did not realize that all the self congratulatory fist pumping , high fives, and atta-boys at the decision on Obamacare by the Supreme Court was a bit premature.  Yes.  They won the battle, but the war has only begun.

It was an inspirational victory—for the conservative right throughout America.  The outrage was palpable. 

Conservatives who were not on board for Mr. Romney, the GOP candidate running against Obama for President, began a rush to Romney's side moments after the Court's decision was announced,  and money began to pour into Romney's campaign coffers.  In less than four hours 1 million and a half dollars had found its way into the hands of the Romney campaign.  And the spigot was barely turned on. 

A tsunami of outrage rolled across America picking up steam as it went.  Even the US House of Representatives announced another vote to repeal Obamacare was scheduled for early July when the representatives return from their July 4th recess.



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It is crystal clear that Obama has delivered on his promise to "fundamentally CHANGE America."  He most certainly did. He changed us from a free constitutional republic to a tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country "wanna-be" almost overnight.  The SCOTUS made the transformation complete by not striking down Obamacare.


more @
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47715

Does this mean that Canada is also a "tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country 'wanna-be' "?  I lived in Canada for five years; they spend 10% of their GDP to cover 100% of their people while we spend 15% of our GDP to cover 88% of our people.  Likewise, the WHO ranks Canada's health care system as the 30th in the world, while the States lags at the 37th.  Canada also has a lower infant mortality rate and fatality rate from most preventable diseases.

But just ignore the statistics; ramble incoherently about Obama, please.  It's funny that, just in another thread, people accuse the left of arguing from emotion.   

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
Does this mean that Canada is also a "tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country 'wanna-be' "?  I lived in Canada for five years; they spend 10% of their GDP to cover 100% of their people while we spend 15% of our GDP to cover 88% of our people.  Likewise, the WHO ranks Canada's health care system as the 30th in the world, while the States lags at the 37th.  Canada also has a lower infant mortality rate and fatality rate from most preventable diseases.

But just ignore the statistics; ramble incoherently about Obama, please.  It's funny that, just in another thread, people accuse the left of arguing from emotion.   

Jeezzzus, more pablum fed BS.
Stop and think man!
Seriously, are you really this damned stupid?
You tell me why you take theses points at face value?
Critical thinking is severely lacking in your posts.

If I seem to be hard on you, well, I am, it's time to quit handling you with kid gloves, you really need a dose of reality!

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2012, 08:13:19 AM
Jeezzzus, more pablum fed BS.
Stop and think man!
Seriously, are you really this damned stupid?
You tell me why you take theses points at face value?
Critical thinking is severely lacking in your posts.

If I seem to be hard on you, well, I am, it's time to quit handling you with kid gloves, you really need a dose of reality!

Hey, this is what I read:

QuoteAmerica Is NOW A Socialist Police State.


snip~
Obama and his fellow socialists in the White House and Congress probably did not realize that all the self congratulatory fist pumping , high fives, and atta-boys at the decision on Obamacare by the Supreme Court was a bit premature.  Yes.  They won the battle, but the war has only begun.

It was an inspirational victory—for the conservative right throughout America.  The outrage was palpable.

Conservatives who were not on board for Mr. Romney, the GOP candidate running against Obama for President, began a rush to Romney's side moments after the Court's decision was announced,  and money began to pour into Romney's campaign coffers.  In less than four hours 1 million and a half dollars had found its way into the hands of the Romney campaign.  And the spigot was barely turned on.

A tsunami of outrage rolled across America picking up steam as it went.  Even the US House of Representatives announced another vote to repeal Obamacare was scheduled for early July when the representatives return from their July 4th recess.



snip~
It is crystal clear that Obama has delivered on his promise to "fundamentally CHANGE America."  He most certainly did. He changed us from a free constitutional republic to a tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country "wanna-be" almost overnight.  The SCOTUS made the transformation complete by not striking down Obamacare.


more @
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47715

I don't see any brilliant revelations here to indicate that my statistics are wrong.  I just see incoherent rambling and fear-mongering through very ridiculous rhetoric.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
Does this mean that Canada is also a "tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country 'wanna-be' "?  I lived in Canada for five years; they spend 10% of their GDP to cover 100% of their people while we spend 15% of our GDP to cover 88% of our people.  Likewise, the WHO ranks Canada's health care system as the 30th in the world, while the States lags at the 37th.  Canada also has a lower infant mortality rate and fatality rate from most preventable diseases.

But just ignore the statistics; ramble incoherently about Obama, please.  It's funny that, just in another thread, people accuse the left of arguing from emotion.   

Off course, as usual you never ask the obvious questions. For example, what kind of coverage are the 100% getting for their dime. Remember the actress Natasha Richardson who died of head trauma because she didn't get the Cat scan which is standard in American hospitals for head trauma, but too expensive for Canada? Besides like every left loon out their, you seem to equate lack of insurance with lack of medical care, simply another one of their lying distortions. And I am sick of hearing that lying ass infant morality statistic. In American hospitals they will attempt to save EVERY infant - no matter whether they are premature. Or disabled. Or low weight. Or the child of some illegal immigrant who just managed to make it over the border, who never heard of prenatal care. In Canada - like all your other socialist utopias - they simple let a lot of these children die - and record them as stillborn, which doesn't effect their infant statistics. You know, once upon a time a simply assumed that left wingers like you were uninformed. Now after seeing the same stupid talking points raised over and over again; I've lost patience and reached the point where I believe you fall into either of two other categories. Lying sacks of fecal matter or stupid sacks of fecal matter. Which sack are you?

If you have evidence that Canada's healthcare coverage is inferior in quality, please post it.

(hint: a singular example of a famous celebrity doesn't count  )

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 08:18:39 AM
Hey, this is what I read:

I don't see any brilliant revelations here to indicate that my statistics are wrong.  I just see incoherent rambling and fear-mongering through very ridiculous rhetoric.

Because you haven't the ability to think for yourself.
Giles put it quite clearly and succinctly in the previous post.
Did any of the obvious ever occur to you, or are you just a blank slate willing to accept one ideal?

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
Because you haven't the ability to think for yourself.

Hey; I did the research, and I came to my conclusion.

Now, explain to me where in walkstall's OP anything resembling an argument is posted.

Quote
Giles put it quite clearly and succinctly in the previous post.

By using anectodal evidence from a celebrity?  Yeah, real good there.

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Did any of the obvious ever occur to you, or are you just a blank slate willing to accept one ideal?

When the other ideal refuses to post anything other than blabbling about Obama turning us into a 3rd world dictatorship, sure.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
Does this mean that Canada is also a "tin-pot dictatorship and a third-world country 'wanna-be' "?  I lived in Canada for five years; they spend 10% of their GDP to cover 100% of their people while we spend 15% of our GDP to cover 88% of our people.  Likewise, the WHO ranks Canada's health care system as the 30th in the world, while the States lags at the 37th.  Canada also has a lower infant mortality rate and fatality rate from most preventable diseases.

But just ignore the statistics; ramble incoherently about Obama, please.  It's funny that, just in another thread, people accuse the left of arguing from emotion.   

What the author stated is the government now has done is impose a penalty if a citizen decides to use what used to be their free will not to purchase a product.  Are Canadians punished for not purchasing health care?  Can they lose their property or freedom if they don't?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 08:35:28 AM
Hey; I did the research, and I came to my conclusion.

What research?

QuoteNow, explain to me where in walkstall's OP anything resembling an argument is posted.

Granted you're not old enough to have seen the change, but we've lost so many freedoms, including the crap Bush started via Homeland Security.

QuoteBy using anectodal evidence from a celebrity?  Yeah, real good there.

No, by opening your eyes and asking yourself, is this the path I want to take?

QuoteWhen the other ideal refuses to post anything other than blabbling about Obama turning us into a 3rd world dictatorship, sure.

Think about it, he started a war with Libya, for what reason?
He tried to force the entire nation where every individual buy a product, something the Gov simply hasn't the right to do.
And as to 3rd world...
How freakin deep in debt do we have to be for you to see we will never get out of this mess?

Then he makes laws via EPA to kill our energy production, as well as penalize energy producers that didn't follow his idea of green energy.
And you don't see a problem?

Quote"Let's look further. The 37 countries that have better infant mortality than the United States have an average infant mortality of 3.8 per 1,000 live births. So of their pregnancies that result in a live delivery, 2.7 infants more (supposedly) than the U.S. (per 1,000 live births) live past one year of age.

In the United States, health care officials are fairly compulsive about statistics and their accuracy, and data surrounding deliveries is scrutinized and secure. So my best guess is that our statistics are reliable.

But look at some of the countries that do better than the U.S.: Cuba, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Malta, Slovenia, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Thailand and others. Doesn't sound quite right, does it? Does anyone outside these countries verify the accuracy of their statistics? Not likely. And do their doctors work exceptionally hard to deliver a live newborn when the likelihood of newborn death shortly after delivery is high? It's a lot harder to get that baby out alive than dead.

So when you hear someone say how bad the situation is in the United States, think again. Does this make sense, or is this someone's spin -- or in the case of infant mortality statistics, international politics."

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/214572

As I said, can't seem to see the obvious. What kind of idiot assumes they are getting accurate statistics from all of these countries.

Quote from: republicans2 on July 02, 2012, 08:51:07 AM
What the author stated is the government now has done is impose a penalty if a citizen decides to use what used to be their free will not to purchase a product.  Are Canadians punished for not purchasing health care?  Can they lose their property or freedom if they don't?

As the SCOTUS rationale puts it, the government does this all the time.  It's called taxing.

And interesting statistic here; the Reagan tax increases of 1982 are almost twice as large of a tax hike as the affordable care act.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 09:08:21 AM
As the SCOTUS rationale puts it, the government does this all the time.  It's called taxing.

And interesting statistic here; the Reagan tax increases of 1982 are almost twice as large of a tax hike as the affordable care act.

But which one has a net return, and not a drain on our treasure?

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2012, 09:16:47 AM
But which one has a net return, and not a drain on our treasure?

That's silly.  The federal deficit tripled under Reagan.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on July 02, 2012, 09:21:19 AM
That's silly.  The federal deficit tripled under Reagan.

Yet you seem to forget your history class, or did they teach you about the fact that the House was controlled by the opposing party?
Aside the fact that he accomplished what he set out to do, destroy the USSR.