Did you hear the President of the United States mention the good people, the citizens, of the United States?
Did you hear them acknowledged or thanked for the wonderful country it has been that has caused these millions of people to come here illegally? Did you hear him thank the American people for SUPPORTING these illegals?
Did you hear him mention these people have been allowed to break into our house and not have the police called and be arrested? Then, we are forced to feed, clothe, house, give health care to, educated their children, etc? We have not been allowed to secure our windows and get new locks for our doors. No, we're told how treacherous their journey was, so let's make it easier.
Did he mention the people do NOT support this and showed it in the recent election? No, the people outside the White House were thanking PRESIDENTE Obama.
Did he mention they are overwhelmingly illiterate, uneducated, some bringing in infectious disease, and would compete for jobs our own people need? Did he mention they give birth to babies here that become citizens of our welfare state?
Did he mention WE THE PEOPLE don't believe for one second that this is not intended to be a pathway to MORE AND MORE AND MORE, including amnesty, citizenship, legalization, and access to all BENEFITS paid for by the citizens?
Did he mention that we are overwhelmingly compassionate, generous, and good - all the things YOU don't believe we are?
Nope, he'd rather be El Presidente than the President of the United States.
DaisyJane :scared:
Daisy...I didn't hear him at all. I don't listen to that lying communist anymore. Thank God for the mute button.
Quote from: HogWash on November 21, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Daisy...I didn't hear him at all. I don't listen to that lying communist anymore. Thank God for the mute button.
Hear Here!
That was my first idea. And, I really don't want to listen to him.
However, since I do listen to Rush and some other talk radio, I wanted to know what he said.
I can totally understand why anyone would choose NOT to listen.
DaisyJane :smile:
Quote from: HogWash on November 21, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Daisy...I didn't hear him at all. I don't listen to that lying communist anymore. Thank God for the mute button.
Welcome. I can't stand to listen to his lies. What is amazing he gets caught time after time, but nothing changes.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 21, 2014, 11:46:44 AM
Welcome. I can't stand to listen to his lies. What is amazing he gets caught time after time, but nothing changes.
Agree! However, just because the LSM ignores it, doesn't mean the people don't see it.
I think the election was evidence of that. :thumbsup:
Quote from: DaisyJane on November 21, 2014, 09:28:43 AM
Did you hear the President of the United States mention the good people, the citizens, of the United States?
Did you hear them acknowledged or thanked for the wonderful country it has been that has caused these millions of people to come here illegally? Did you hear him thank the American people for SUPPORTING these illegals?
Did you hear him mention these people have been allowed to break into our house and not have the police called and be arrested? Then, we are forced to feed, clothe, house, give health care to, educated their children, etc? We have not been allowed to secure our windows and get new locks for our doors. No, we're told how treacherous their journey was, so let's make it easier.
Did he mention the people do NOT support this and showed it in the recent election? No, the people outside the White House were thanking PRESIDENTE Obama.
Did he mention they are overwhelmingly illiterate, uneducated, some bringing in infectious disease, and would compete for jobs our own people need? Did he mention they give birth to babies here that become citizens of our welfare state?
Did he mention WE THE PEOPLE don't believe for one second that this is not intended to be a pathway to MORE AND MORE AND MORE, including amnesty, citizenship, legalization, and access to all BENEFITS paid for by the citizens?
Did he mention that we are overwhelmingly compassionate, generous, and good - all the things YOU don't believe we are?
Nope, he'd rather be El Presidente than the President of the United States.
DaisyJane :scared:
What?? You took the time to listen to Hussein and he didn't give a pro-American speech, and he lied?? I'll alert the media. Thanks for this ground breaking info Daisy!! I can always count on you for calling useless attention to redundancy.
Quote from: taxed on November 21, 2014, 11:56:04 AM
What?? You took the time to listen to Hussein and he didn't give a pro-American speech, and he lied?? I'll alert the media. Thanks for this ground breaking info Daisy!! I can always count on you for calling useless attention to redundancy.
That is DJ's problem, she is listening to the wrong folks. She listened to Obama and probably pays attention to local news in Chicago.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 21, 2014, 01:26:13 PM
That is DJ's problem, she is listening to the wrong folks. She listened to Obama and probably pays attention to local news in Chicago.
I NEVER listen to local news in Chicago! I have given up on Chicago! It's all the same anyway. SO and SO shot SUCH AND SUCH in another gang shooting, blah blah blah. Same stuff, different day. Everything that was good about CHicago has been destroyed.
I don't think I should need to DEFEND myself, but I listened to Obama so I could be INFORMED when things are discussed. It was painful to listen to. Not because I don't get him all the way through. I know he's wrong, doesn't tell the truth, was repudiated in the last election, and all that.
DaisyJane :blink:
I on the other hand DO listen to Hussein, I study him and analyze him with my practiced eye...after all one must KNOW one's enemy well.
When I saw Hussein the other day talking about Congress and Illegals and his usual Bull Crap I say a Very ANGRY and TRUCULENT little Commie prick. I watched his body language, his facial expressions and most of all his eyes....He's MAD, and Mad men make mistakes, stupid mistakes.
He's mad at the American people, whom he has always hated and wants revenge on, hes mad that he has been rejected and he's mad that he's been thwarted by the house republicans. So in a fit of idiocy he comes up with this EXO which means nothing.
The "American Dream" is no longer for americans ?
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
The "American Dream" is no longer for americans ?
Not if the marxist's have their way, they want to hammer Americans.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 21, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
The "American Dream" is no longer for americans ?
The American Dream has been usurpted by the Dream of a dead Kenyan Marxist college Professor, made into an American Nightmare, by his son, who's looking to recruit more 3rd world dreamers!
Quote from: DaisyJane on November 21, 2014, 04:39:58 PM
I NEVER listen to local news in Chicago! I have given up on Chicago! It's all the same anyway. SO and SO shot SUCH AND SUCH in another gang shooting, blah blah blah. Same stuff, different day. Everything that was good about CHicago has been destroyed.
I don't think I should need to DEFEND myself, but I listened to Obama so I could be INFORMED when things are discussed. It was painful to listen to. Not because I don't get him all the way through. I know he's wrong, doesn't tell the truth, was repudiated in the last election, and all that.
DaisyJane :blink:
Some of these guys think if you ignore a criminal, he'll just go away. They're as foolish as any.
Back to your real point, I did hear Rush. He put it so well! Hussein acts more like an invading conqueror giving a victory speech than the President of the United States of AMERICA.
Rush put his finger on the problem. Obama exerts NO effort in solving AMERICA'S problems -- just giving away more and more of our opportunities to foreigners.
But if we just ignore this man for the next 2 years, everything I'll get better.
We really showed those RINOS! Glad they're not running the House and Senate! We really stopped Amnesty! Obama's a joke -- completely ineffective! Mitch & John will straighten it all out!
Quote from: carlb on November 21, 2014, 05:59:27 PM
Some of these guys think if you ignore a criminal, he'll just go away. They're as foolish as any.
Back to your real point, I did hear Rush. He put it so well! Hussein acts more like an invading conqueror giving a victory speech than the President of the United States of AMERICA.
Rush put his finger on the problem. Obama exerts NO effort in solving AMERICA'S problems -- just giving away more and more of our opportunities to foreigners.
But if we just ignore this man for the next 2 years, everything I'll get better.
We really showed those RINOS! Glad they're not running the House and Senate! We really stopped Amnesty! Obama's a joke -- completely ineffective! Mitch & John will straighten it all out!
If we ignore the GOP, it won't get better. Hussein can be reigned in by Congress. Did you know that?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 21, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
I on the other hand DO listen to Hussein, I study him and analyze him with my practiced eye...after all one must KNOW one's enemy well.
When I saw Hussein the other day talking about Congress and Illegals and his usual Bull Crap I say a Very ANGRY and TRUCULENT little Commie prick. I watched his body language, his facial expressions and most of all his eyes....He's MAD, and Mad men make mistakes, stupid mistakes.
He's mad at the American people, whom he has always hated and wants revenge on, hes mad that he has been rejected and he's mad that he's been thwarted by the house republicans. So in a fit of idiocy he comes up with this EXO which means nothing.
You do have him pegged. He is mad and he is taking it out on the American people. Over the next two years he is going to make a lot of mistakes if the GOP keeps his feet to the fire.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 21, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
I on the other hand DO listen to Hussein, I study him and analyze him with my practiced eye...after all one must KNOW one's enemy well.
When I saw Hussein the other day talking about Congress and Illegals and his usual Bull Crap I say a Very ANGRY and TRUCULENT little Commie prick. I watched his body language, his facial expressions and most of all his eyes....He's MAD, and Mad men make mistakes, stupid mistakes.
He's mad at the American people, whom he has always hated and wants revenge on, hes mad that he has been rejected and he's mad that he's been thwarted by the house republicans. So in a fit of idiocy he comes up with this EXO which means nothing.
Bingo!!! Why is it some are blind to this?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 21, 2014, 05:24:26 PM
Not if the marxist's have their way, they want to hammer Americans.
And if the Silent Majority hits the streets in protest the closet maoist bisexual in the white house will order the uncle sugar military to put a boot on their throats pronto.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 22, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
And if the Silent Majority hits the streets in protest the closet maoist bisexual in the white house will order the uncle sugar military to put a boot on their throats pronto.
Which inevitably would start a Civil war, one the Marxist would surely lose.
More than half the nation is against the Marxist, with Sheriffs across the nation as the front line fighting force, a Military infused with a huge majority Conservative volunteer force that would invariably align with a populace armed to the teeth.
And you think they could subdue us?
Do you realize just how laughable your claim sounds?
Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Which inevitably would start a Civil war, one the Marxist would surely lose.
More than half the nation is against the Marxist, with Sheriffs across the nation as the front line fighting force, a Military infused with a huge majority Conservative volunteer force that would invariably align with a populace armed to the teeth.
And you think they could subdue us?
Do you realize just how laughable your claim sounds?
So you actually believe in the concept of "Unorganized Militia" as in Citizenry not National Guard (Organized Militia) ?
Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Which inevitably would start a Civil war, one the Marxist would surely lose.
More than half the nation is against the Marxist, with Sheriffs across the nation as the front line fighting force, a Military infused with a huge majority Conservative volunteer force that would invariably align with a populace armed to the teeth.
And you think they could subdue us?
Do you realize just how laughable your claim sounds?
Quite easily!
Oh, there would be some rebel bands hiding out in the country and possibly doing hit and run type ops, but, on the whole, most Americans are too comfortable to become revolutionaries
As long as they can go to McDonalds', watch Dancing with the Stars and play Angry Birds on their iPhones, despite what goes on in D.C. they'll all be happy! The Revolution (if it comes at all) will be more of an annoyance to them than anything they'd want to join!
While they might be interested in watching a documentary about it on H2, it is nothing they'd want to join up with.
They certainly wouldn't want to "die" for it!
Darth
http://stg.do/mfuh (http://stg.do/mfuh)
This is why we cannot get complacent. This is who this guy really is. It is really scary.
It is only 20 seconds.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 22, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
So you actually believe in the concept of "Unorganized Militia" as in Citizenry not National Guard (Organized Militia) ?
If you want to label more than half the country fighting for it's freedom, as unorganized, that's your prerogative.
Here in El Dorado county Ca, all Sheriffs were members of the Militia. The current Sheriff is a member of the Militia, and a fine leader to boot.
He stated, like those before him, that he swore an oath to protect the laws and the Constitution and stated that if Martial law were ever declared unlawfully (meaning the Marxist to put this in context), he would lead the fight to protect our Constitution.
Is that what you consider unorganized?
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 22, 2014, 10:41:49 AM
http://stg.do/mfuh (http://stg.do/mfuh)
This is why we cannot get complacent. This is who this guy really is. It is really scary.
It is only 20 seconds.
As much as I despise the Kenyan, here are his words, in context!
But those ideals have also been tested -- here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by "us" versus "them," or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.Posting such propaganda as was used in that clip, only makes us look stupid!
Darth
I'm a Sergeant in the California Militia ( Formerly Known as the California State Militia) I started with them 3 years ago (Northern California State Militia Redding Platoon) We train once a mont (2 day FTX) and have 2 Meet & greet meetings (Round Table Pizza at Mount Shasta Mall) a month and a "Leadership" meeting once a month also. We have Former Military, Law Enforcement and County Supervisors, Lawyers, Barbers, Mechanics, Teachers ... in other words we are Citizenry who train legally ( State Constitution allows for ALL able bodied Males 18-45 to be called up by Governor) We train hard and as someone who was not in military the training is very useful for me especially. We were the largest Militia in the Country (1000 + active members in 3 regions ( Northern California State Militia) (Central California State Militia) & (Southern California State Militia) one of our larger training events have had 140 Members & 46 recruits show up for a 2 day FTX at Paynes Creek (Perry Riffle ) on the Bend area of the Sacramento River in Tehama County. We have participated in the Redding Rodeo Parade 2 years in a row (65 uniformed marchers), assisted the Siskiyou & Shasta county sheriffs in Search & rescue efforts, Fed the Homeless at the Mission on thanksgiving & other community volunteer efforts. I too believe in the Modern Militia Movement and it's viability in local & regional disasters and other situations.
Bump for effect ... :popcorn:
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 22, 2014, 11:00:27 AM
I'm a Sergeant in the California Militia ( Formerly Known as the California State Militia) I started with them 3 years ago (Northern California State Militia Redding Platoon) We train once a mont (2 day FTX) and have 2 Meet & greet meetings (Round Table Pizza at Mount Shasta Mall) a month and a "Leadership" meeting once a month also. We have Former Military, Law Enforcement and County Supervisors, Lawyers, Barbers, Mechanics, Teachers ... in other words we are Citizenry who train legally ( State Constitution allows for ALL able bodied Males 18-45 to be called up by Governor) We train hard and as someone who was not in military the training is very useful for me especially. We were the largest Militia in the Country (1000 + active members in 3 regions ( Northern California State Militia) (Central California State Militia) & (Southern California State Militia) one of our larger training events have had 140 Members & 46 recruits show up for a 2 day FTX at Paynes Creek (Perry Riffle ) on the Bend area of the Sacramento River in Tehama County. We have participated in the Redding Rodeo Parade 2 years in a row (65 uniformed marchers), assisted the Siskiyou & Shasta county sheriffs in Search & rescue efforts, Fed the Homeless at the Mission on thanksgiving & other community volunteer efforts. I too believe in the Modern Militia Movement and it's viability in local & regional disasters and other situations.
How many would show up if they were confronted by an U.S. Army mechanized division.
How many would show up, if they knew there was a very real possibility that they'd be bombed into the stone age by a drone strike?
There is a big difference between talking guns and eating pizza, and real combat...
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2014, 10:38:11 AM
Quite easily!
Oh, there would be some rebel bands hiding out in the country and possibly doing hit and run type ops, but, on the whole, most Americans are too comfortable to become revolutionaries
As long as they can go to McDonalds', watch Dancing with the Stars and play Angry Birds on their iPhones, despite what goes on in D.C. they'll all be happy! The Revolution (if it comes at all) will be more of an annoyance to them than anything they'd want to join!
While they might be interested in watching a documentary about it on H2, it is nothing they'd want to join up with.
They certainly wouldn't want to "die" for it!
Darth
Not necessarily. I've always considered that what I ultimately wanted was in lock step to what I was willing to give up.
You'll be surprised to find out what an angry mob of people can accomplish when their freedom is challenged. Need we go back to the election? That's only the beginning pal. The more obstinate Obola gets, the more aggressive we the people will get. As people across this great nation finally zero in on what Islam is and who it is that was actually put at the helm of our nation, I think the vision will change as to what real Americans will do. It has already started and I fully expect great changes for our country.
Quote from: keyboarder on November 22, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
Not necessarily. I've always considered that what I ultimately wanted was in lock step to what I was willing to give up.
You'll be surprised to find out what an angry mob of people can accomplish when their freedom is challenged. Need we go back to the election? That's only the beginning pal. The more obstinate Obola gets, the more aggressive we the people will get. As people across this great nation finally zero in on what Islam is and who it is that was actually put at the helm of our nation, I think the vision will change as to what real Americans will do. It has already started and I fully expect great changes for our country.
You're talking about a country that took over 87 years to abolish slavery!
There is a big difference between a vote of no confidence for the Democrat Party and armed insurrection.
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2014, 11:24:43 PM
You're talking about a country that took over 87 years to abolish slavery!
There is a big difference between a vote of no confidence for the Democrat Party and armed insurrection.
Darth
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87 years and the democrats are still on the plantation. They're just stupid enough to stay there too. IMO (good morning to you) :smile:
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2014, 10:38:11 AM
Quite easily!
Oh, there would be some rebel bands hiding out in the country and possibly doing hit and run type ops, but, on the whole, most Americans are too comfortable to become revolutionaries
As long as they can go to McDonalds', watch Dancing with the Stars and play Angry Birds on their iPhones, despite what goes on in D.C. they'll all be happy! The Revolution (if it comes at all) will be more of an annoyance to them than anything they'd want to join!
While they might be interested in watching a documentary about it on H2, it is nothing they'd want to join up with.
They certainly wouldn't want to "die" for it!
Darth
There's a reason the NG and Militias is in the hands of the Governor.
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 07:39:53 AM
There's a reason the NG and Militias is in the hands of the Governor.
Are you familiar with the National Guard?
I was in it.
The name tape on my uniform didn't say,
State of Maryland, Air National Guard. It said,
U.S. Air Force.
There is a reason for that, too...
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 08:19:36 AM
Are you familiar with the National Guard?
I was in it.
The name tape on my uniform didn't say, State of Maryland, Air National Guard. It said, U.S. Air Force.
There is a reason for that, too...
Darth
Being in it and having an understanding of it's connection to States Rights still didn't sink in? I was in the Army, but that doesn't qualify me as any kind of authority on the subject. Your point?
Do you seriously think if Obola pulled Martial law over some attempt to seize power, that any Governor is going to relinquish command of his first line of defense?
I appreciate your theories, but if you want to be taken seriously, drop the conspiracy angle, it ruins any credibility you may have had going in.
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
Being in it and having an understanding of it's connection to States Rights still didn't sink in? I was in the Army, but that doesn't qualify me as any kind of authority on the subject. Your point?
Do you seriously think if Obola pulled Martial law over some attempt to seize power, that any Governor is going to relinquish command of his first line of defense?
I appreciate your theories, but if you want to be taken seriously, drop the conspiracy angle, it ruins any credibility you may have had going in.
It has already happened...
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(Alabama Governor) George Wallace appointed himself the temporary University registrar and stood in the doorway of the administration building to prevent the students from registering. In response, President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard. One hundred guardsman escorted the students to campus and their commander, General Henry Graham, ordered George Wallace to 'step aside.Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 09:01:09 AM
It has already happened...
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(Alabama Governor) George Wallace appointed himself the temporary University registrar and stood in the doorway of the administration building to prevent the students from registering. In response, President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard. One hundred guardsman escorted the students to campus and their commander, General Henry Graham, ordered George Wallace to 'step aside.
Darth
Lousy example. One state vs 50 is no comparison, especially where the Fed is looking to usurp the power of the States Right of protection and Independence.
JFK was not looking to use the NG as a weapon, rather quite the opposite.
Our Nametapes on our Multicam Uniforms have our "Real" names (in some cases earned nicnames, and our bloodtype and some guys have their former Military Rank in smaller patch but everyone starts at bottom (recruit) and goes through vetting & training through the levels. The Ca Militia nametape & patches are to delineate us from NG or Shasta County Swat or other LE who wear Multicam ...
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 09:11:48 AM
Lousy example. One state vs 50 is no comparison, especially where the Fed is looking to usurp the power of the States Right of protection and Independence.
JFK was not looking to use the NG as a weapon, rather quite the opposite.
First, your math is a little off. It would have been one stat vs 49.
Be that as it may, you are also buying into the Left's Revisionist history.
Many states opposed school integration, including some Northern states. Wallace was the only one with the guts to actively oppose it.
Not saying he was right, just pointing out the way things really were.
The point, however is this. When it comes down to an armed conflict between the Federal Government and the State Government, the Feds always win!
Both the Feds and the States know this!
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
First, your math is a little off. It would have been one stat vs 49.
Be that as it may, you are also buying into the Left's Revisionist history.
Many states opposed school integration, including some Northern states. Wallace was the only one with the guts to actively oppose it.
Not saying he was right, just pointing out the way things really were.
The point, however is this. When it comes down to an armed conflict between the Federal Government and the State Government, the Feds always win!
Both the Feds and the States know this!
Darth
Which was my point.. One State, but throw in all 50 and you have a civil standoff and the Fed will lose.
The Fed only has power if the states allow.
Armed (With Constitution) Americans outnumber Military & Law Enforcement 80 to 1 (Not including Retired/Reserve)
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 10:05:19 AM
Which was my point.. One State, but throw in all 50 and you have a civil standoff and the Fed will lose.
When have all 50 states ever agreed on anything?!
:rolleyes:
The Fed only has power if the states allow.[/quote]
I think I can saw without fear of contridiction that if the President - especially a Democrat President - were to nationalize all of the state's National Guards, or simply tell them to stand down, there is not a Governor who would oppose him!
No, not even Scott Walker!
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 23, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
When have all 50 states ever agreed on anything?!
:rolleyes:
The Fed only has power if the states allow.
I think I can saw without fear of contridiction that if the President - especially a Democrat President - were to nationalize all of the state's National Guards, or simply tell them to stand down, there is not a Governor who would oppose him!
No, not even Scott Walker!
Darth
In keeping with the tone of the thread, and the Marxists use of Martial law to achieve dictatorial status, it's pretty safe to assume most states would tell him to screw off..
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 22, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
And if the Silent Majority hits the streets in protest the closet maoist bisexual in the white house will order the uncle sugar military to put a boot on their throats pronto.
How many of them you really think would do that? Oh yeah there would be some, the officer core and all the Fags he recently "Made" but there would be enough of the "old Guard" which would resist....then of course you have the States and the National Guard, You think the Texas National Guard or Arizona or some of the other heavy conservo jurisdictions would turn out and stomp their brothers, uncles, Aunts, Moms Dad's sisters and the guys they go bowling with?
Hussein isn't really beloved by the Military, not with all the crap he's pulled and the VA scandels.
Then of course you would have the local cops, sheriff's etc, there is a lot of animosity )I KNOW FOR FACT!!!!!!!) towards Obamao especially after this little puppet show in Furgueson sending in Holder and the Bullet brothers dum dum and hollow point AKA Sharpton and Jackson to HAMMER some cop who was defending himself. EVERYONE wearing a badge is looking at that and saying....what if it was me......
Obamao's BEST option would be to use an army of thugs like the Black Panther Party and of course the criminal alien cartel members whom I have a sneaking suspicion have been financing this whole amnesty gig.
In which case it would be a turkey shoot with those assholes wearing the feathers.
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2014, 10:38:11 AM
Quite easily!
Oh, there would be some rebel bands hiding out in the country and possibly doing hit and run type ops, but, on the whole, most Americans are too comfortable to become revolutionaries
As long as they can go to McDonalds', watch Dancing with the Stars and play Angry Birds on their iPhones, despite what goes on in D.C. they'll all be happy! The Revolution (if it comes at all) will be more of an annoyance to them than anything they'd want to join!
While they might be interested in watching a documentary about it on H2, it is nothing they'd want to join up with.
They certainly wouldn't want to "die" for it!
Darth
Yeah there is some truth to what you are saying re the average American slug. But do you really think it is going to be a situation where you have "bands of guerillas hiding out"
I don't, at least that is not how I would plan to fight, rather than line up shoulder to shoulder in some Napoleonic style or 'hiding out in the country' a more likely scenario woulld be a down and dirty type of thing with more specific targeting of Enemy 'leader' and politicians assassination, ambushes etc, dead bodies thrown out of cars. The crap would hit the fan when they tried cracking down on this sort of thing and started shutting down the internet, restricting travel, withholding food and shutting down utilities to punish the "rebels".
Then again I think Hussein would likely try and employ a "counter revolutionary" force made up of thugs and criminal aliens to ravage America, as I am quite certain any army or police force would be severely divided and mostly against him..
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 23, 2014, 04:49:24 PM
Yeah there is some truth to what you are saying re the average American slug. But do you really think it is going to be a situation where you have "bands of guerillas hiding out"
I don't, at least that is not how I would plan to fight, rather than line up shoulder to shoulder in some Napoleonic style or 'hiding out in the country' a more likely scenario woulld be a down and dirty type of thing with more specific targeting of Enemy 'leader' and politicians assassination, ambushes etc, dead bodies thrown out of cars. The crap would hit the fan when they tried cracking down on this sort of thing and started shutting down the internet, restricting travel, withholding food and shutting down utilities to punish the "rebels".
Then again I think Hussein would likely try and employ a "counter revolutionary" force made up of thugs and criminal aliens to ravage America, as I am quite certain any army or police force would be severely divided and mostly against him..
Funny thing is most of those actions I see happening in the Blue states and in areas of the purple states. The funny thing is that most red state governments and Sheriffs will back their own people so I would expect then to be rather Quite! The really noise will be in Liberal controlled areas like New York that for years have had their foot on the neck on almost half the population in the upstate region.
You would have to get Wally's opinion on that!
I think the real blood would be spilled in the inter cities! :sad: :sad: :sad:
Quote from: redbeard on November 23, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Funny thing is most of those actions I see happening in the Blue states and in areas of the purple states. The funny thing is that most red state governments and Sheriffs will back their own people so I would expect then to be rather Quite! The really noise will be in Liberal controlled areas like New York that for years have had their foot on the neck on almost half the population in the upstate region.
You would have to get Wally's opinion on that!
I think the real blood would be spilled in the inter cities! :sad: :sad: :sad:
EXACTLY!!!!!
See the Dems control the inner cities, the Police Depts are LARGELY occupational armies who live in the suburbs and commute into the hell hole everyday.
Back in the day most of us couldn't afford to live in DC as Mayor Barry decreed, it is definitely the same in New York City, CHicago, LA etc etc.
Quote from: redbeard on November 23, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
Funny thing is most of those actions I see happening in the Blue states and in areas of the purple states. The funny thing is that most red state governments and Sheriffs will back their own people so I would expect then to be rather Quite! The really noise will be in Liberal controlled areas like New York that for years have had their foot on the neck on almost half the population in the upstate region.
You would have to get Wally's opinion on that!
I think the real blood would be spilled in the inter cities! :sad: :sad: :sad:
I quite disagree...
The Marxists already control the major metropolitan areas of this country. They would be on the Federal Government's side!
Darth
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 23, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
How many of them you really think would do that? Oh yeah there would be some, the officer core and all the Fags he recently "Made" but there would be enough of the "old Guard" which would resist....then of course you have the States and the National Guard, You think the Texas National Guard or Arizona or some of the other heavy conservo jurisdictions would turn out and stomp their brothers, uncles, Aunts, Moms Dad's sisters and the guys they go bowling with?
Hussein isn't really beloved by the Military, not with all the crap he's pulled and the VA scandels.
Then of course you would have the local cops, sheriff's etc, there is a lot of animosity )I KNOW FOR FACT!!!!!!!) towards Obamao especially after this little puppet show in Furgueson sending in Holder and the Bullet brothers dum dum and hollow point AKA Sharpton and Jackson to HAMMER some cop who was defending himself. EVERYONE wearing a badge is looking at that and saying....what if it was me......
Obamaboth o's BEST option would be to use an army of thugs like the Black Panther Party and of course the criminal alien cartel members whom I have a sneaking suspicion have been financing this whole amnesty gig.
In which case it would be a turkey shoot with those assholes wearing the feath ers.
Like the last statement over any of the rest of your very good post. i think we both agree that Obola has NO revelence when it comes to the way our state governors may or may not handle an issue of martial law. He simply does not matter any more. We simply cannot allow him any more power to utterly destroy us as a free nation.
Quote from: HogWash on November 21, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Daisy...I didn't hear him at all. I don't listen to that lying communist anymore. Thank God for the mute button.
Hogwash and other's while I can def identify with that sentiment. And while I too would rather watch paint dry on the wall than watch THE OBAMA give a speech.
It needs pointing out, that watching and listening to him is actually something we should all be doing.
Because if we don't, then we have zero way of knowing what the hell he's up too, unless, we allow someone else to do the watching and listening for us.
Or unless we then, rely upon the reports of others to know what THE OBAMA is up too.
We sadly must listen too and watch THE OBAMA if we are to know for FACT what he is doing.
You can thank the libtards, and Demwits for saddling us all with THE OBAMA and for forcing us to watch and listen to THE OBAMA for eight years too.
Quote from: daidalos on November 24, 2014, 06:45:44 AM
Hogwash and other's while I can def identify with that sentiment. And while I too would rather watch paint dry on the wall than watch THE OBAMA give a speech.
It needs pointing out, that watching and listening to him is actually something we should all be doing.
Because if we don't, then we have zero way of knowing what the hell he's up too, unless, we allow someone else to do the watching and listening for us.
Or unless we then, rely upon the reports of others to know what THE OBAMA is up too.
We sadly must listen too and watch THE OBAMA if we are to know for FACT what he is doing.
You can thank the libtards, and Demwits for saddling us all with THE OBAMA and for forcing us to watch and listen to THE OBAMA for eight years too.
Skip the long dramatic pauses, the hypocritical stares, the self aggrandized posturing, and Simply, read the transcripts.
Back to the OP, Obama's original transformation was / is to make the American people pay back the riches stolen from the 3rd world, and redistribute from the rich to the poor-lazy-thieving, within America.
Aiding & abetting Illegal immigration, aiding & abetting the caliphate / jihad, accepting all crime & diseases into our country if the poor people of the globe must have them........are just a few examples of the former.
The latter is richly exemplified by the massive, growing welfare state, support for the insane anarchists whenever an opportunity like Trayvon / Brown come along, and a literal war against conservatives, business, and the non-progressive-rich...........via IRS, EPA, NSA, HHS, DHS, etc.
That is all.
And yet some still believe Progressive Socialist Leaning Democrats and Conservative Constitutionalist Republicans are the same ... :confused:
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 24, 2014, 07:22:41 AM
And yet some still believe Progressive Socialist Leaning Democrats and Conservative Constitutionalist Republicans are the same ... :confused:
I guess I don't understand your point.
The bulk of RINO's aren't very different than the progressive liberal socialists. Both want a one-world govt, both want the constitution to go away, both want progressive-style monolithic govt to keep the masses controlled. Main difference is the progressives want the world-wide communism......and the RINO's want a world-wide economy controlled by billionaires, possibly trillionaires one day. With the emergence of the RINOs + Soros, GE, Immelt, Steyer, Buffett, Gates, et al.......the line is totally blurred. Think Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt getting together for a joint effort.
The MSM, DNC, Hollywood, and academia are the ones that continue to lump the TP and RINO's together, not the actual players from each camp. They've gotten away with it so far, but hopefully the tide has turned, and we've got capable people fighting back.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 24, 2014, 07:22:41 AM
And yet some still believe Progressive Socialist Leaning Democrats and Conservative Constitutionalist Republicans are the same ... :confused:
No, they believe (and rightly so) that Democrats (Progressive and Socialist are redundant when talking about Dems...) and the Republican Establishment as typified by RINOs are one and the same thing!
Very few politicians who sport an "R" after their names are Constitutional Conservatives. In fact, I would say you could count the number of true Conservatives in Congress without running out of fingers and toes. In the Senate, you could probably count them on one hand - two at the very most!
Darth
The RINO's and progressives have slowly blurred together over time, into a philosophy that just doesn't want the open-competitive capitalism, constitution-based America experiment to go any further.
Crony capitalism in the hands of a few, and communism, are what they want. And a pure capitalist / constitutional society is anathema to that. I guess what they would like, would look a lot like China. Possibly Russia if Putin can steer it back toward the USSR.
What the bomb-throwers and anarchists couldn't accomplish over the last 240 years, I guess these guys are working toward.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 24, 2014, 09:12:06 AM
The RINO's and progressives have slowly blurred together over time, into a philosophy that just doesn't want the open-competitive capitalism, constitution-based America experiment to go any further.
Crony capitalism in the hands of a few, and communism, are what they want. And a pure capitalist / constitutional society is anathema to that. I guess what they would like, would look a lot like China. Possibly Russia if Putin can steer it back toward the USSR.
What the bomb-throwers and anarchists couldn't accomplish over the last 240 years, I guess these guys are working toward.
"You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright, but we'll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you'll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won't have to fight you. We'll so weaken your economy until you'll fall like overripe fruit into our hands."
-Nikita Khrushcev
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Darth
Quote from: Solar on November 24, 2014, 07:16:47 AM
Skip the long dramatic pauses, the hypocritical stares, the self aggrandized posturing, and Simply, read the transcripts.
True enough...thanks for mentioning that.
Although sometimes there sadly isn't a transcript to read.