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Title: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
I've been hunting libs the last couple of days, and it's obvious they're freakin out about Ted.
So I thought I'd start a thread combating their lunacy, and for starters, their claim he was for Illegals receiving in state tuition in Texas.
Feel free to add other Ted myths floating about, and no, he only has one puppy for breakfast, not three. :biggrin:


Ted Cruz, the conservative Hispanic lawyer running for Texas' open U.S. Senate seat, used that ABC interview earlier today to put serious distance between himself and Gov. Rick Perry over one of the policies that has dogged the governor: Perry's defense of instate college tuition for illegal immigrants who live in Texas.

"I am enthusiastically supporting Rick Perry," Cruz said, noting that he endorsed Perry the day the governor entered the GOP race for president. "I thought and think he is the strongest conservative who can win the nomination."

But as for instate tuition, Cruz takes much the same view as Mitt Romney and Perry's other rivals, who reject Perry's view that Texas made the right call by helping young illegal immigrants gain the education needed to become productive taxpayers, rather than deciding to "kick them to the curb."
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2011/10/ted-cruz-a-perry-backer-denoun.html/ (http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2011/10/ted-cruz-a-perry-backer-denoun.html/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: MACMan on April 18, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
I've been hunting libs the last couple of days, and it's obvious they're freakin out about Ted.
So I thought I'd start a thread combating their lunacy, and for starters, their claim he was for Illegals receiving in state tuition in Texas.
Feel free to add other Ted myths floating about, and no, he only has one puppy for breakfast, not three. :biggrin:


Ted Cruz, the conservative Hispanic lawyer running for Texas' open U.S. Senate seat, used that ABC interview earlier today to put serious distance between himself and Gov. Rick Perry over one of the policies that has dogged the governor: Perry's defense of instate college tuition for illegal immigrants who live in Texas.

"I am enthusiastically supporting Rick Perry," Cruz said, noting that he endorsed Perry the day the governor entered the GOP race for president. "I thought and think he is the strongest conservative who can win the nomination."

But as for instate tuition, Cruz takes much the same view as Mitt Romney and Perry's other rivals, who reject Perry's view that Texas made the right call by helping young illegal immigrants gain the education needed to become productive taxpayers, rather than deciding to "kick them to the curb."
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2011/10/ted-cruz-a-perry-backer-denoun.html/ (http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2011/10/ted-cruz-a-perry-backer-denoun.html/)

Here's one I keep hearing from all quarters....."There's no way he can win the nomination, let alone the Presidency!"  :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2015, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: MACMan on April 18, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
Here's one I keep hearing from all quarters....."There's no way he can win the nomination, let alone the Presidency!"  :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:
:biggrin:
Love it, and then you just point out all the failures of the Dim party under the most hated POTUS in history, and they suddenly shut up.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
Cruz: If Terrorists Attacked A Golf Course 'That Would Get The White House's Attention'


http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 19, 2015, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
Cruz: If Terrorists Attacked A Golf Course 'That Would Get The White House's Attention'


http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/)

I am glad it is getting warmer. Now Obama can spend more time on the course and ,hopefully, less time screwing us.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 19, 2015, 09:28:49 AM
I am glad it is getting warmer. Now Obama can spend more time on the course and ,hopefully, less time screwing us.
Good point.
And less time flying to Hawaii for a weekend round.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on April 19, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
Good point.
And less time flying to Hawaii for a weekend round.

Money is not a problem for him, b o is riding on the taxpayers money yet.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 19, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
Coming thru Charlottesville Va recently (A hotbed of leftist dunderheads) I noted some handbill pasted on an electric transformer box featuring an unflattering charicature of Ted wearing a crown with the caption "the man who would be king".....

I guess thats the best they can do
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2015, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 19, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
Coming thru Charlottesville Va recently (A hotbed of leftist dunderheads) I noted some handbill pasted on an electric transformer box featuring an unflattering charicature of Ted wearing a crown with the caption "the man who would be king".....

I guess thats the best they can do
They have nothing, for example, this was a short exchange with what could be considered representative of most of the lib posts out there.
This is what constitutes for debate with these mental midgets.

Scientific Patriot
Cruz should be arrested for incitement to terrorism
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conservativepoliticalforum.com  Scientific Patriot • 2 hours ago
You can back this up with actual facts, right?

Scientific Patriot  • 2 hours ago
Cruz's own words as reported.

conservativepoliticalforum.com  Scientific Patriot • 2 hours ago
As I suspected, pure BS!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2015, 08:43:50 AM
I'm on there now.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2015, 08:43:50 AM
I'm on there now.
:thumbsup: I saw that.

Don't miss this little turd. He's down about 5 pages in. I drug him face down all over that thread. :biggrin:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/)

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
:thumbsup: I saw that.

Don't miss this little turd. He's down about 5 pages in. I drug him face down all over that thread. :biggrin:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/18/cruz-if-terrorists-attacked-a-golf-course-that-would-get-the-white-houses-attention/)

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They're adorable at this age.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
They're adorable at this age.
Yeah, but wait till they start walking, they get into everything.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
Yeah, but wait till they start walking, they get into everything.

Did I really get into an argument with a lib that 2 + 2 is always 4?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
Did I really get into an argument with a lib that 2 + 2 is always 4?
Yep. :lol: :lol: :lol:
According to him, the answer is fluid, and X applies more than than 4..
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Yep. :lol: :lol: :lol:
According to him, the answer is fluid, and X applies more than than 4..

And people think we're joking when we say they don't understand that 2 + 2 = 4... no, they really don't understand that!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
And people think we're joking when we say they don't understand that 2 + 2 = 4... no, they really don't understand that!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We need to save those posts.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
Trust and confidence in leadership are more than just words. When business cannot count on lawmakers and executives, business is reluctant to act. It can be as simple as a decision to buy or improve property on an approved road route, then discovering that the politicians have suddenly changed their plans. for no visible reason. It can get much bigger than that. Those are reasons having corrupt socialist patronage politicians in charge is not a good idea. That goes for Barack and Hillary, both.

Jack Welch puts it well in this FOX interview.

https://youtu.be/nqKQgxY8AdY
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on April 20, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
Trust and confidence in leadership are more than just words. When business cannot count on lawmakers and executives, business is reluctant to act. It can be as simple as a decision to buy or improve property on an approved road route, then discovering that the politicians have suddenly changed their plans. for no visible reason. It can get much bigger than that. Those are reasons having corrupt socialist patronage politicians in charge is not a good idea. That goes for Barack and Hillary, both.

Jack Welch puts it well in this FOX interview.

Welch is right in how he views Cruz, who'll have to step directly in after inauguration and establish the engine of trust that the business-community rely on.  -That government won't be a persuasive influence on the economic free-markets anymore.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 20, 2015, 03:22:59 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 20, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
Welch is right in how he views Cruz, who'll have to step directly in after inauguration and establish the engine of trust that the business-community rely on.  -That government won't be a persuasive influence on the economic free-markets anymore.

TRUST is the core of Cruz's campaign.  IMHO this is his strongest attribute.  We definitely can trust this man.  He has proven himself.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
That's right, and, there are at least two kinds of trust. In the first, we believe a person is going to do the right thing, not just what is expedient. This is a kind of trust in judgement, as in, "I would trust Ted Cruz with the office of the President."

The second is a trust or belief that the individual or group is good for its word. In those cases, while we may agree or disagree with the position, we can act on its tenet.  As Mr. Welch says, "Ted Cruz tells us what he is going to do, and he does it." Mr. Welch was a success with GE not so much on account of brilliant management as it was consistent management. You might think that would be common in business. It is not.

With Barack, his unreliability and untrustworthiness is reflected in statements by people who have to work under his authority, statements like, "We have no clear strategy in place." Of course you don't. Barack is waiting to see which way the deck breaks. Then he will decide based on his owbn personal interests.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 20, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
That's right, and, there are at least two kinds of trust. In the first, we believe a person is going to do the right thing, not just what is expedient. This is a kind of trust in judgement, as in, "I would trust Ted Cruz with the office of the President."

The second is a trust or belief that the individual or group is good for its word. In those cases, while we may agree or disagree with the position, we can act on its tenet.  As Mr. Welch says, "Ted Cruz tells us what he is going to do, and he does it." Mr. Welch was a success with GE not so much on account of brilliant management as it was consistent management. You might think that would be common in business. It is not.

With Barack, his unreliability and untrustworthiness is reflected in statements by people who have to work under his authority, statements like, "We have no clear strategy in place." Of course you don't. Barack is waiting to see which way the deck breaks. Then he will decide based on his owbn personal interests.

Thanks for that exposition on the issue red_dirt.  You make good points.

I just wish everyone could see what you and I see in Cruz.  He is the real deal!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
Thanks for that exposition on the issue red_dirt.  You make good points.

I just wish everyone could see what you and I see in Cruz.  He is the real deal!
Since my last posting I have defended Cruz on 3 sites! One was a blog that is all over facebook saying he is not eligible to run because of his Canadian birth! I had to join the site to post Taxes link to prove he was!
http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-citizenship-and-voting/#disqus_thread (http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-citizenship-and-voting/#disqus_thread)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/restoringamericawithtreygowdy/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/restoringamericawithtreygowdy/)
https://www.facebook.com/ (https://www.facebook.com/)
All 3 of these places have been posting negative stuff questioning his citizenship. All 3 of them I have posted correction on today!
If you really want to help him convincing a bunch of old conservatives won't accomplish as much as putting out the fires before they erupt! I'm not totally convinced about Cruz or Walker but I've spent a lot of time today supporting both of them!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 20, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Since my last posting I have defended Cruz on 3 sites! One was a blog that is all over facebook saying he is not eligible to run because of his Canadian birth! I had to join the site to post Taxes link to prove he was!
http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-citizenship-and-voting/#disqus_thread (http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-citizenship-and-voting/#disqus_thread)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/restoringamericawithtreygowdy/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/restoringamericawithtreygowdy/)
https://www.facebook.com/ (https://www.facebook.com/)
All 3 of these places have been posting negative stuff questioning his citizenship. All 3 of them I have posted correction on today!
If you really want to help him convincing a bunch of old conservatives won't accomplish as much as putting out the fires before they erupt! I'm not totally convinced about Cruz or Walker but I've spent a lot of time today supporting both of them!

Totally right, redbeard.  I am glad to hear of your activism.  That is what will make the difference in the long run.

I too debate the far Left.   It is not fun but we must set the record straight when they try to influence people.

The eligibility issue is a non starter.  It is important to keep the focus where it needs to be.

Thanks for your commitment!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2015, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 01:28:35 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
We need to save those posts.

It felt good to pound libs. I haven't done it in so long.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
Totally right, redbeard.  I am glad to hear of your activism.  That is what will make the difference in the long run.

I too debate the far Left.   It is not fun but we must set the record straight when they try to influence people.

The eligibility issue is a non starter.  It is important to keep the focus where it needs to be.

Thanks for your commitment!
Don't know if you have it but this shuts them up and proves he is eligible
https://americansabroad.org/files/3013/3478/0295/18-04-2012_1318_971.pdf
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 20, 2015, 05:37:23 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
Don't know if you have it but this shuts them up and proves he is eligible
https://americansabroad.org/files/3013/3478/0295/18-04-2012_1318_971.pdf

Thanks redbeard.

I have used other links in the past, but this is also a good one.  We must continue the good fight!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 05:37:23 PM
Thanks redbeard.

I have used other links in the past, but this is also a good one.  We must continue the good fight!
You see I am not anti Cruz! At this point I am supporting any real conservative that want's to enter. I have also been around attacking the Dim's and the RINO's. I really think we should really drop the load on Hilary now to encourage any Left wing Pundit into challenging her. They think they have the nomination wrapped up and are not budgeting for a real primary challenge! Every dime Hillary pends to win her nomination is one she won't have in the general election. At this time it is where our focus should be.
She really looks bad on the campaign trail with her silence and she will look a lot worse if she is forced to speak. We need to force her from her game!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 20, 2015, 06:27:00 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
You see I am not anti Cruz! At this point I am supporting any real conservative that want's to enter. I have also been around attacking the Dim's and the RINO's. I really think we should really drop the load on Hilary now to encourage any Left wing Pundit into challenging her. They think they have the nomination wrapped up and are not budgeting for a real primary challenge! Every dime Hillary pends to win her nomination is one she won't have in the general election. At this time it is where our focus should be.
She really looks bad on the campaign trail with her silence and she will look a lot worse if she is forced to speak. We need to force her from her game!

I'm not convinced that a challenge to Hillary will make that much difference.

As far as the war chest is concerned, all the money in the world cannot fix stupid!  I trust that the voters will be bored with Hillary and the younger people will be attracted to a younger candidate that they believe identifies with their problems.

Hillary's baggage is monumental!  There is endless fodder for campaign ads!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
You see I am not anti Cruz! At this point I am supporting any real conservative that want's to enter. I have also been around attacking the Dim's and the RINO's. I really think we should really drop the load on Hilary now to encourage any Left wing Pundit into challenging her. They think they have the nomination wrapped up and are not budgeting for a real primary challenge! Every dime Hillary pends to win her nomination is one she won't have in the general election. At this time it is where our focus should be.
She really looks bad on the campaign trail with her silence and she will look a lot worse if she is forced to speak. We need to force her from her game!
I have to disagree. We want her to run, for one, she's the easiest to beat, two, even the DNC knows she can't win so they're trying destroy her, and three, even the libs hate her.
So why would we want to help them destroy her?

Personally, I'm looking forward to a bloody slaughter in 2016, and if we get to bloody a Klinton, all the better. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 20, 2015, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
I have to disagree. We want her to run, for one, she's the easiest to beat, two, even the DNC knows she can't win so they're trying destroy her, and three, even the libs hate her.
So why would we want to help them destroy her?

Personally, I'm looking forward to a bloody slaughter in 2016, and if we get to bloody a Klinton, all the better. :biggrin:
Oh I don't want to destroy her yet! Just weaken her a little just enough to put her off her stride. I agree she is who we want to run against but I want to see her Favorability rating a little lower and more important is to get her un favorability up!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 20, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
I have to disagree. We want her to run, for one, she's the easiest to beat, two, even the DNC knows she can't win so they're trying destroy her, and three, even the libs hate her.
So why would we want to help them destroy her?

Personally, I'm looking forward to a bloody slaughter in 2016, and if we get to bloody a Klinton, all the better. :biggrin:

And the best part: When she goes down she will take the party with her. If there is a primary challenge she will napalm the village to get the nomination. She will destroy the weak bench the Democrats have. O'Malley, that guy with the large head (Webb). The clown (Biden) and the crazy Socialist (Sanders)...and that's it really.  She will kill a bench begging to be put out of it's misery.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 20, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
And the best part: When she goes down she will take the party with her. If there is a primary challenge she will napalm the village to get the nomination. She will destroy the weak bench the Democrats have. O'Malley, that guy with the large head (Webb). The clown (Biden) and the crazy Socialist (Sanders)...and that's it really.  She will kill a bench begging to be put out of it's misery.
I'm not sure whose following whom when it comes to circling the drain.  I believe the Dim arty is already dead, we're just waiting for the clock to run out.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kathy s. on April 20, 2015, 07:02:30 PM
   I've been defending Cruz since he ran for and won his current position.   So far, he's the real deal and I admire him for sticking with his values, no matter how much the RINO's degrade, marginalize, and ridicule him in an effort to render him unelectable. You can bet the left is working overtime to dig up anything that would knock him out of the race, however I believe Cruz is too smart for that.

   I also post on city-data forum and was recently banned from the Off Topic forum on the ultimate  bastion of  liberal beotches, Chronicle of the Horse.            http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum.php (http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum.php)

  I was banned from OT for defending myself, lol and am happy to just sit back and watch them eat their own. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 20, 2015, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
I'm not sure whose following whom when it comes to circling the drain.  I believe the Dim arty is already dead, we're just waiting for the clock to run out.

Actually they are more like the headless chicken. It runs around a bit before finally tipping over.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 21, 2015, 04:38:34 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 20, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
And the best part: When she goes down she will take the party with her. If there is a primary challenge she will napalm the village to get the nomination. She will destroy the weak bench the Democrats have. O'Malley, that guy with the large head (Webb). The clown (Biden) and the crazy Socialist (Sanders)...and that's it really.  She will kill a bench begging to be put out of it's misery.

An excellent point about napalming any potential challenger. It doesn't matter how bad a candidate she is. Just today another book is out which raises more questions about the foundation and her actions as Sec. of State. Judge Napolitano said the allegations are worse than those against Menendez. However, any bets on the DOJ pursuing?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 21, 2015, 05:01:08 AM
The new "gotcha" question posed to the GOP candidates is... Would you attend the wedding of a gay family member or friend?

Here are some of the responses from the candidates:

Rick Santorum declared he would not attend such a ceremony because "that would be a violation of my faith." In an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Santorum stated that in the case of a homosexual friend, "I would love them and support them, but I would not participate in that ceremony."

Ted Cruz rejected the question as hypothetical and stated the real issue was whether the federal government would take authority to regulate marriage away from the states.

John Kasich told a homosexual friend he would attend his wedding.

Scott Walker said he had attended a reception for a homosexual wedding.

Marco Rubio told Jorge Ramos in an interview, "If there's somebody that I love that's in my life, I don't necessarily have to agree with their decisions or the decisions they've made to continue to love them and participate in important events."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/gotcha-republicans-trapped-by-gay-wedding-question/#fRpzugXr4a23D7hO.99 (http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/gotcha-republicans-trapped-by-gay-wedding-question/#fRpzugXr4a23D7hO.99)


The liberals will always push the social issues questions on the candidates because that is where they believe they can trip them up.

I thought Cruz offered the shrewdest response.  He will not allow them to drive the dialogue.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: WashingtonLives on April 21, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
So here are two things the extremist leftists say: 1. "Cruz might do ok in the primaries, but cannot make it in the general election." 2. "Cruz is 'Palin' un-electable in the general election." 

I say....they live in a bubble of commie/socialist goobley-gook! This bubble is either exploding, or (more likely) IMPLODing. They are always looking so far inward....it will be an implosion. They do not often look beyond their noses and, especially, their FEEL-ings! LOL
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 21, 2015, 06:13:53 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 21, 2015, 05:01:08 AM
The new "gotcha" question posed to the GOP candidates is... Would you attend the wedding of a gay family member or friend?

Here are some of the responses from the candidates:

Rick Santorum declared he would not attend such a ceremony because "that would be a violation of my faith." In an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Santorum stated that in the case of a homosexual friend, "I would love them and support them, but I would not participate in that ceremony."

Ted Cruz rejected the question as hypothetical and stated the real issue was whether the federal government would take authority to regulate marriage away from the states.

John Kasich told a homosexual friend he would attend his wedding.

Scott Walker said he had attended a reception for a homosexual wedding.

Marco Rubio told Jorge Ramos in an interview, "If there's somebody that I love that's in my life, I don't necessarily have to agree with their decisions or the decisions they've made to continue to love them and participate in important events."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/gotcha-republicans-trapped-by-gay-wedding-question/#fRpzugXr4a23D7hO.99 (http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/gotcha-republicans-trapped-by-gay-wedding-question/#fRpzugXr4a23D7hO.99)


The liberals will always push the social issues questions on the candidates because that is where they believe they can trip them up.

I thought Cruz offered the shrewdest response.  He will not allow them to drive the dialogue.
I think a good answer would be.. "When it comes to this whole issue, I find it pretty hard to swallow"
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 21, 2015, 06:27:54 AM
Quote from: WashingtonLives on April 21, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
So here are two things the extremist leftists say: 1. "Cruz might do ok in the primaries, but cannot make it in the general election." 2. "Cruz is 'Palin' un-electable in the general election." 

I say....they live in a bubble of commie/socialist goobley-gook! This bubble is either exploding, or (more likely) IMPLODing. They are always looking so far inward....it will be an implosion. They do not often look beyond their noses and, especially, their FEEL-ings! LOL

I believe that is what many said about Reagan. We saw how that worked out.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 21, 2015, 06:44:05 AM
Quote from: WashingtonLives on April 21, 2015, 06:05:16 AM
So here are two things the extremist leftists say: 1. "Cruz might do ok in the primaries, but cannot make it in the general election." 2. "Cruz is 'Palin' un-electable in the general election." 

I say....they live in a bubble of commie/socialist goobley-gook! This bubble is either exploding, or (more likely) IMPLODing. They are always looking so far inward....it will be an implosion. They do not often look beyond their noses and, especially, their FEEL-ings! LOL

Do they expound upon what makes him unelectable?

Chances are they simply throw out the sound bite and expect it to stand without substantiation. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: WashingtonLives on April 21, 2015, 07:31:11 AM
That is it. They just throw it out there, and think the sheep will lap it up. I still disagree about Palin being unelectable...she has more guts in her little finger than all the Rhinos in a row!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 20, 2015, 08:13:06 PM
Actually they are more like the headless chicken. It runs around a bit before finally tipping over.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was thinking the Pushmepullyou, but headless chicken works on sooo many levels. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 21, 2015, 07:35:55 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 21, 2015, 06:27:54 AM
I believe that is what many said about Reagan. We saw how that worked out.
As long as we're invoking Ronald Maximus, I think we ought to remember his eleventh commandment!
(George Herbert Walker Bush labeled Reagan's supply side economics as being "Voodoo Economics" when he ran against Reagan and Dole in the primary.  The left still calls it that.  Prior to the landslide election of Ronald Reagan, Republicans were depicted as Blue and White and the Democrats were the REDS!  The media, long before cable, talk radio or the internet changed that!  There was no push back becasue there was nowhere one could push back.

We are enabling the REDS to march us down the road towards stateism and Despotic control of one party, tyranical rule, if we give them ammunition to use against us.  Even our weakest links (RINO's) are Republicans, in the eyes of the media and the electorate.  Whatever we say can and will be used against us in the court of public opinion!  That's why Reagan cautioned aginst speaking ill of anyone with the Republican brand.  We are only diminished by it.  He said that when others railed aginst another Republican who was against us 20% of the time, he saw someone who was with us 80% of the time.  We don't want these people as our leaders, but we need to use them when we can and then get rid of them when we can.  It only gives fodder to the other side when we shoot ourselves in the foot by demonizing identified Republican Leaders as people who ought not be given power.  They paint us all with that same broad brush and it only goes to serve the interests of our real enemies.

Many of the differences between conservtives and RINO's are differences in strategy, as well as demonstrating the courage of one's convictions.  In 1964, Barry Goldwater's slogan was "Barry Goldwater: He'd rather be Right, than President"  He was right and he waas not ever President!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on April 21, 2015, 07:40:32 AM
Somebody mention Ronaldus Magnus?

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 21, 2015, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: quiller on April 21, 2015, 07:40:32 AM
Somebody mention Ronaldus Magnus?

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Yeah, that's the guy!   :thumbup:

and I went back and added a line about his mentor; the guy Reagan wanted to be President!  :drool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on April 21, 2015, 07:54:50 AM
More on-topic (though to me Rompin' Ronnie is ALWAYS on-topic)....

Here's food for thought, from an image I found two or three years ago. There was no caption.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 21, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Quote from: quiller on April 21, 2015, 07:54:50 AM
More on-topic (though to me Rompin' Ronnie is ALWAYS on-topic)....

Here's food for thought, from an image I found two or three years ago. There was no caption.

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Smokin Joe wasn't all that wrong, he just got so messed unraveling the networks, he began to see communists under every bed....

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on April 21, 2015, 10:42:49 AM
Good gracious, the left knows how to spin.  They love to throw polls out there that are always  left-leaning.  They'll put up a poll showing where Hitlery is on it, like she actually has a lead and at the same time the poll will reflect where the most unlikely to be elected from cons party.  I almost threw up yesterday when i watched the local news and the reporting of such a poll.  This poll didn't even have Cruz listed as being high or low in likely voters.  Heck, they didn't even bother to put his name up on the poll, so I guess he is the frontrunner because he wasn't mentioned.  The left is terrified of Cruz.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 21, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
That is the first time I have seen the web of deceit and corruption otherwise known as the democratic party.  The evil belly of the beast!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on April 21, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 21, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
That is the first time I have seen the web of deceit and corruption otherwise known as the democratic party.  The evil belly of the beast!
This just begs the question, if you're that new to corruption that old, what do you plan to learn your SECOND day on-line?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 21, 2015, 11:35:48 AM
Quote from: quiller on April 21, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
This just begs the question, if you're that new to corruption that old, what do you plan to learn your SECOND day on-line?

I am not NEW to the corruption.  We have all known about these groups for years now.

I am just new to the visual diagram that helps to connect the evil dots!  Seeing it in black and white adds a new dimension to comprehending the breadth of the maze.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 21, 2015, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 21, 2015, 11:35:48 AM
I am not NEW to the corruption.  We have all known about these groups for years now.

I am just new to the visual diagram that helps to connect the evil dots!  Seeing it in black and white adds a new dimension to comprehending the breadth of the maze.
Here's a visual that explains ...everything....

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
I dont think Cruz will get the nomination

He is to far right for the GOP establishment
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 21, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
I dont think Cruz will get the nomination

He is to far right for the GOP establishment

I know you're kidding.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
I dont think Cruz will get the nomination

He is to far right for the GOP establishment
You mean the GOP is too far left for it constituency.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 21, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
I know you're kidding.
No sir

They will support Bush

Gawd I hope I am wrong
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
No sir

They will support Bush

Gawd I hope I am wrong
Don't worry, you are. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:22:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
You mean the GOP is too far left for it constituency.
Alright works for me :ttoung:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
No sir

They will support Bush

Gawd I hope I am wrong
I'm not convinced yet Bush will even run! His negatives among republicans are as bad as Christy's. Jeb is a realist if he doesn't really start preforming he will know he hasn't a chance. He has been gambling that he could draw Hispanic support better then others but resent polls show him in the bottom tear with them! It's going to be an interesting couple months! I say let it play out!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:35:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 06:22:09 PM
Don't worry, you are. :biggrin:
I hope so

But remember, they voted Obama in TWICE.

And, who are the PACs going to put there money behind?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
I'm not convinced yet Bush will even run! His negatives among republicans are as bad as Christy's. Jeb is a realist if he doesn't really start preforming he will know he hasn't a chance. He has been gambling that he could draw Hispanic support better then others but resent polls show him in the bottom tear with them! It's going to be an interesting couple months! I say let it play out!!
I think its ridiculous that he even tries. The independent voters are going to associate him with his brother. And the Hillery machine will jump on that 24-7

If He got the nomination, say Hello to Hilley and Bill for the next 8 years :cursing:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:35:20 PM
I hope so

But remember, they voted Obama in TWICE.

And, who are the PACs going to put there money behind?
TEA didn't need any money in 2010 and 2014, and look at the advancements we made.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
I think its ridiculous that he even tries. The independent voters are going to associate him with his brother. And the Hillery machine will jump on that 24-7

If He got the nomination, say Hello to Hilley and Bill for the next 8 years :cursing:
Being from Florida I can tell you Jeb and Rubio are kind of tight! I would expect Jeb to try to make a show for awhile but if he sees the cards against him he will throw his support to Rubio. I wish Rubio would get out. If he runs he would have to vacate his senate seat. in Florida it could flip to the Dim's. I'll guarantee you Ol' Charlie Crist will run for it again! What a senator he would make!! :unsure: :unsure:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 06:22:14 PM
Alright works for me :ttoung:
:biggrin:
I now, it sounds like I jest, but seriously, this is the worst case of spineless rinoitis the nation has ever experienced.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 06:51:01 PM
TEA didn't need any money in 2010 and 2014, and look at the advancements we made.
Yah but the Liberal Media has done a good job at painting the T Party as a bunch of radical nut jobs
and the Hillary machine will run with that.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Being from Florida I can tell you Jeb and Rubio are kind of tight! I would expect Jeb to try to make a show for awhile but if he sees the cards against him he will throw his support to Rubio. I wish Rubio would get out. If he runs he would have to vacate his senate seat. in Florida it could flip to the Dim's. I'll guarantee you Ol' Charlie Crist will run for it again! What a senator he would make!! :unsure: :unsure:
I think Rubeo is the only chance we have

I have read on different sites that He is the one Hillery fears the most.

I happen to believe He is our only chance against Hillery so far. unless someone jumps in the race that a better candidate than him
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:09:24 PM
Yah but the Liberal Media has done a good job at painting the T Party as a bunch of radical nut jobs
and the Hillary machine will run with that.
All it's done is focus attention on us and our message,.
Remember, they declared us dead several years in a row.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
I think Rubeo is the only chance we have

I have read on different sites that He is the one Hillery fears the most.

I happen to believe He is our only chance against Hillery so far. unless someone jumps in the race that a better candidate than him
Rubio is pure rino and backed by the Establishment and a known liar.
He won't make it through the primaries.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
I think Rubeo is the only chance we have

I have read on different sites that He is the one Hillery fears the most.

I happen to believe He is our only chance against Hillery so far. unless someone jumps in the race that a better candidate than him
Cruz and Walker are way better then him. Both I think will do better with independents then Rubio. Walker has shown this 3 times in a blue state. Cruz is a great speaker with a good message. Rubio hurt his chances by getting involved with that gang of 8 bull shit!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 21, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
I think Rubeo is the only chance we have

I have read on different sites that He is the one Hillery fears the most.

I happen to believe He is our only chance against Hillery so far. unless someone jumps in the race that a better candidate than him

Why does it matter who Hillary fears?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
:biggrin:
I now, it sounds like I jest, but seriously, this is the worst case of spineless rinoitis the nation has ever experienced.
I somewhat agree. But realistically for a Conservative to win, they have to appeal to more than just the far right
Thats why I think Rubeo has a better chance
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Cruz and Walker are way better then him. Both I think will do better with independents then Rubio. Walker has shown this 3 times in a blue state. Cruz is a great speaker with a good message. Rubio hurt his chances by getting involved with that gang of 8 bull shit!
Yep, the GOP sacrificed him by making him the poster child for illegals.
Walker and Cruz are the ones to beat, those two force all the other candidates to run to the Right, which is why Bush rides in the caboose.

I wonder who will be the one to pull the pin on his car and leave his worthless ass to drift? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:25:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
All it's done is focus attention on us and our message,.
Remember, they declared us dead several years in a row.
I am al for the T party. The Libs find you as a threat, thats why they demonize you.

unfortunately The swing voters swallow up the lies and propaganda the Liberal media spews out

Too many people believe what the MS media puts out. If its on the news, it must be true
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:18:23 PM
Rubio is pure rino and backed by the Establishment and a known liar.
He won't make it through the primaries.
He is not the Worse!! :lol: But that said he damaged himself and showed he isn't ready for prime time. His involvement with the gang of eight killed any real chance he had!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 21, 2015, 07:28:53 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
He is not the Worse!! :lol: But that said he damaged himself and showed he isn't ready for prime time. His involvement with the gang of eight killed any real chance he had!

It is not just the gang of eight that killed him.  He keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/marco_rubio_says_dreamer_amnesty_must_continue_before_border_secured.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/marco_rubio_says_dreamer_amnesty_must_continue_before_border_secured.html)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:18:23 PM
Rubio is pure rino and backed by the Establishment and a known liar.
He won't make it through the primaries.
Sorry Solar, with all due respect, I seriously doubt Cruz will get the nomination either.

With that said, If He did, I would vote for him, But I really dont think He will get it

BTW I thought Rubio is a T partyer?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2015, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 21, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
He is not the Worse!! :lol: But that said he damaged himself and showed he isn't ready for prime time. His involvement with the gang of eight killed any real chance he had!
He also lied to the Florida TEA, when he claimed he was for building the fence and deporting illegals during his run for Senate.
No, he by far, nowhere near as bad as Grahmmnesty who is about to declare.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 21, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
Why does it matter who Hillary fears?
well chances are, she will get the Democrat nomination.

What would Hillary attack him on?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 21, 2015, 07:38:47 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
well chances are, she will get the Democrat nomination.

What would Hillary attack him on?

What does it matter? She will attack anyone she faces.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 22, 2015, 04:35:29 AM
I think we have a new Andy.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2015, 05:16:13 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 22, 2015, 04:35:29 AM
I think we have a new Andy.
Sadly, yes.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 22, 2015, 04:35:29 AM
I think we have a new Andy.
Whats an Andy?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on April 22, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 04:28:27 PM
Whats an Andy?

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 22, 2015, 05:27:00 PM
Norseman,

If we cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel....  we are without hope.

We must maintain our hope of a better future regardless of the circumstances.  Yes, we are in trouble.  But we must believe that we can overcome.

Hope is everything!   Pessimism cures nothing.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 22, 2015, 06:17:59 PM
Gosh, I wonder if he can carry the conservative vote?

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/22/hot-air-primary-survey-april-results/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/22/hot-air-primary-survey-april-results/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 22, 2015, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 22, 2015, 06:17:59 PM
Gosh, I wonder if he can carry the conservative vote?

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/22/hot-air-primary-survey-april-results/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/22/hot-air-primary-survey-april-results/)

Gee, Ted's star is rising quickly!  Thanks for sharing those great graphics.  They really tell the story.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 22, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
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Wow so just after 20 posts, they have me pegged
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 22, 2015, 05:27:00 PM
Norseman,

If we cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel....  we are without hope.

We must maintain our hope of a better future regardless of the circumstances.  Yes, we are in trouble.  But we must believe that we can overcome.

Hope is everything!   Pessimism cures nothing.
I would love to see Cruz get the nomination. As far as I can tell, He is the only real conservative in the race so far

But realistically, Hillary will run on womens rights. Cruz would run on real issues like Jobs and maybe the border.

How it would be painted, is First female President,Vs White old school Republican

We saw how Obama got elected from nothing more than He was black, He had no qualifications,No experience running anything, but yet He was voted in twice

Its all about perception, unfortunately.

The reason I think the only one that has a chance is Rubio

Why? Because He is young,secondly He would be the first Hispanic President

Going by Obama getting elected,this seems to be the new trend. People want change, and dont seem to care about the issues when they decide who they are going vote for.

I would love for Cruz to get the nomination,He reflects my beliefs more than the others but I think people think He is a radical Right winger

If He does win it God Bless He has my vote :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 23, 2015, 04:12:15 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 08:25:29 PM
Wow so just after 20 posts, they have me pegged

We are not a bunch of kids on this board.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:20:45 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
I would love to see Cruz get the nomination. As far as I can tell, He is the only real conservative in the race so far

But realistically, Hillary will run on womens rights. Cruz would run on real issues like Jobs and maybe the border.

How it would be painted, is First female President,Vs White old school Republican

We saw how Obama got elected from nothing more than He was black, He had no qualifications,No experience running anything, but yet He was voted in twice

Its all about perception, unfortunately.

The reason I think the only one that has a chance is Rubio

Why? Because He is young,secondly He would be the first Hispanic President

Going by Obama getting elected,this seems to be the new trend. People want change, and dont seem to care about the issues when they decide who they are going vote for.

I would love for Cruz to get the nomination,He reflects my beliefs more than the others but I think people think He is a radical Right winger

If He does win it God Bless He has my vote :thumbsup:

Your thinking confuses me.

You say you think Rubio can win because he is young and hispanic. 

What do you think Cruz is?  An old white man?  Wrong.

Ted Cruz is one year older than Rubio and VERY hispanic.

As far as your idea of "a First Female President vs. a White old school Republican"...... once again he is hispanic and fluent in spanish plus he could have Carly as his veep on the ticket.  She would squash the "Female" edge Hillary would tout.  BTW, are we now reduced to voting on genitalia?  How stupid is that?

Actually it would be an "old school democrat vs. a young hispanic with an impressive resume' ".

You see, it is all about your perspective.

I suspect you frequent too many liberal forums and are influenced by their silly rhetoric.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2015, 05:11:43 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
well chances are, she will get the Democrat nomination.

What would Hillary attack him on?
Stick around, you have sooo much to learn.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 07:57:19 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 22, 2015, 08:42:30 PM

I would love for Cruz to get the nomination,He reflects my beliefs more than the others but I think people think He is a radical Right winger

If He does win it God Bless He has my vote :thumbsup:

People think he is a radical right winger? 

His positions are identical to Ronald Reagan!  A whole lot of people believe Reagan was the best President of the modern era.

When people call Cruz radical, you should remind them of this.

Cruz is actually running a repeat of the Reagan campaign!  They come from exactly the same perspective and political ideology.

And everyone laughed at Reagan when he got into the Presidential race!  No one thought he had a chance of winning!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 23, 2015, 08:02:52 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:20:45 AM
Your thinking confuses me.

You say you think Rubio can win because he is young and hispanic. 

What do you think Cruz is?  An old white man?  Wrong.

Ted Cruz is one year older than Rubio and VERY hispanic.

As far as your idea of "a First Female President vs. a White old school Republican"...... once again he is hispanic and fluent in spanish plus he could have Carly as his veep on the ticket.  She would squash the "Female" edge Hillary would tout.  BTW, are we now reduced to voting on genitalia?  How stupid is that?

Actually it would be an "old school democrat vs. a young hispanic with an impressive resume' ".

You see, it is all about your perspective.

I suspect you frequent too many liberal forums and are influenced by their silly rhetoric.

I think Ted Cruz is the most outspoken conservative we have who is actually a player on the political field.  Wd have many bomb throwers on the side lines, but he's the only one we have that throws bombs to power (to rephrase the "speak truth to power" line).  We like that! 

Whether or not the American people will like his style is still an open question.

I remember the Momma's & the Poppa's line..."but if we really say it, the radio won't play it, unless we lay it between the lines..."  Many of our conservatives candidates are much less in their face, although their conservative beliefs are right there for one to read between the lines of what they say.  This is done so the left can not enflame the stupid people by harping on mistakes such as Romney's true comment about the 48% of the voters that weren't going to vote for him or any other Republican because they are afraid of losing some Federal goverment benefit.

I like bomb throwers on our side.  There are so many on their's, it's great to see someone on our side giving as good (or better) as we get all the time, from the lefties!  I don't want my enthusiasm for someone willing to spit right back in their faces, to affect my judgement about who will be the best POTUS. 

I'll be waiting to see what the majority opinion of the American people seems to be and that chapter hasn't yet been written!   I hope Ted Cruz can pursude them; he's very articulate and that is very pusuasive!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 08:26:37 AM
The most important thing Norseman needs to understand is the REASON why Cruz gets so much negativity from our opponents is because he is the most feared by the Left.  Why?

Ted is BY FAR the smartest one in the race!  Once America gets a real understanding of his intelligence and abilities, they will see him differently.  That really worries the Left.  He would be the most formidable GOP nominee.  He will not make gaffs.  He is quick and shrewd with his responses to criticism.  He will dominate the debates.  And he will destroy Hillary without being hateful and condescending.  He has the right combination of tact with a sting.

If you have never heard Ted speak in person, you may not yet understand the way he electrifies the room when he speaks.  He inspires people.  He sparks peoples' ability to once again believe in the shining city on a hill.  He can do this like no other candidate....... and I have heard almost all of them in person.

The spirit of Reagan lives!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
I somewhat agree. But realistically for a Conservative to win, they have to appeal to more than just the far right
Thats why I think Rubeo has a better chance
Walker has proven he can appeal to the independents by winning in a blue state 3 times against everything all the libs in the country could throw at him. Cruz is just starting with his message and I believe he with resonate with the base of the party. Both these guys are light years ahead of Rubio who in a resent poll is slipping with even the Hispanic vote!
I would support Rubio in his re-election bid to the senate but not for the presidency. He hasn't the experience as shown by his blunder on immigration and the gang of 8! I think he learned by it but it showed he is not ready for prime time (Yet)!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 21, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
I somewhat agree. But realistically for a Conservative to win, they have to appeal to more than just the far right
Thats why I think Rubeo has a better chance

This is a center-right nation.   Rubio has no stronger chance than Cruz.  We have the "integrity" issue here.  Rubio broke his promise to his constituents during his Senatorial campaign.  Cruz did not.  Whether you like Cruz's actions in the Senate or not, he was true to his word when he campaigned.  He did exactly what he promised he would do.

Ted knows how to win the middle ground people in the General Election.  We are not there yet.  Right now he is focused upon winning the nomination..... which requires the grassroots conservative voters.  But he will not flip on any issue in the General election campaign.  He will simply appeal to the reasoned logic of the middle.  He will keep them in his focus after the Primaries.  And he will win their confidence... just as Reagan did.  And he will probably get the Reagan democrats also!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 23, 2015, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 09:48:43 AM
This is a center-right nation.   Rubio has no stronger chance than Cruz.  We have the "integrity" issue here.  Rubio broke his promise to his constituents during his Senatorial campaign.  Cruz did not.  Whether you like Cruz's actions in the Senate or not, he was true to his word when he campaigned.  He did exactly what he promised he would do.

Ted knows how to win the middle ground people in the General Election.  We are not there yet.  Right now he is focused upon winning the nomination..... which requires the grassroots conservative voters.  But he will not flip on any issue in the General election campaign.  He will simply appeal to the reasoned logic of the middle.  He will keep them in his focus after the Primaries.  And he will win their confidence... just as Reagan did.  And he will probably get the Reagan democrats also!

Who is calling Cruz and extreme right winger. It is the MSM and democrats. The establishment would also like to convince folks the independents will not support Cruz, or even Walker for that matter. As has been pointed out, Reagan did not have a problem attracting independents, not to mention middle class democrats. Patriotic Americans are looking for someone with a positive message about America.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on April 23, 2015, 03:38:13 PM
The majority of Americans will optimistically accept a Cruz Presidency after the election-hoopla is over with.  They'll have already started to move-on with it by the first weekend.  Just like with Reagan's win.  I voted for John 'Flat Tax' Anderson.  I'd already accepted Reagan by the following Monday. 

It applies to Rand Paul as well.

 

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 23, 2015, 03:38:13 PM
The majority of Americans will optimistically accept a Cruz Presidency after the election-hoopla is over with.  They'll have already started to move-on with it by the first weekend.  Just like with Reagan's win.  I voted for John 'Flat Tax' Anderson.  I'd already accepted Reagan by the following Monday. 

It applies to Rand Paul as well.



Good post Kit!

I don't even remember John "flat tax" Anderson.....  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:20:45 AM
Your thinking confuses me.

You say you think Rubio can win because he is young and hispanic. 

What do you think Cruz is?  An old white man?  Wrong.

Ted Cruz is one year older than Rubio and VERY hispanic.

As far as your idea of "a First Female President vs. a White old school Republican"...... once again he is hispanic and fluent in spanish plus he could have Carly as his veep on the ticket.  She would squash the "Female" edge Hillary would tout.  BTW, are we now reduced to voting on genitalia?  How stupid is that?

Actually it would be an "old school democrat vs. a young hispanic with an impressive resume' ".

You see, it is all about your perspective.

I suspect you frequent too many liberal forums and are influenced by their silly rhetoric.
What I am trying to get at is, How are the swing voters going to see him? You and I would vote for
Cruz if He got the nomination but how will He be perceived by people who only vote once every four years and dont pay much attention to politics ?

So far they are going after him because He was born in Canada. which the MSM had a field day with

You honestly dont think that 'The first Female President' isnt going to be pushed by the Left?
She will push that along with Equal rights for women. Thats all she really has.

Obama had no experience on anything and IMO was voted in because He was black so its so hard to believe they wont push the gender issue
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 07:57:19 AM
People think he is a radical right winger? 

His positions are identical to Ronald Reagan!  A whole lot of people believe Reagan was the best President of the modern era.

When people call Cruz radical, you should remind them of this.

Cruz is actually running a repeat of the Reagan campaign!  They come from exactly the same perspective and political ideology.

And everyone laughed at Reagan when he got into the Presidential race!  No one thought he had a chance of winning!!
Thats the way the left is trying to portray him, and being the left controls the MSM it will be a big hurtle
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:38:31 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 08:26:37 AM
The most important thing Norseman needs to understand is the REASON why Cruz gets so much negativity from our opponents is because he is the most feared by the Left.  Why?

Ted is BY FAR the smartest one in the race!  Once America gets a real understanding of his intelligence and abilities, they will see him differently.  That really worries the Left.  He would be the most formidable GOP nominee.  He will not make gaffs.  He is quick and shrewd with his responses to criticism.  He will dominate the debates.  And he will destroy Hillary without being hateful and condescending.  He has the right combination of tact with a sting.

If you have never heard Ted speak in person, you may not yet understand the way he electrifies the room when he speaks.  He inspires people.  He sparks peoples' ability to once again believe in the shining city on a hill.  He can do this like no other candidate....... and I have heard almost all of them in person.

The spirit of Reagan lives!
I understand that, but He is fighting an uphill battle not only is He fighting the MSM he is up against the GOP

So let me ask you this, Do you think Regan could win in this day and age?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 09:24:00 AM
Walker has proven he can appeal to the independents by winning in a blue state 3 times against everything all the libs in the country could throw at him. Cruz is just starting with his message and I believe he with resonate with the base of the party. Both these guys are light years ahead of Rubio who in a resent poll is slipping with even the Hispanic vote!
I would support Rubio in his re-election bid to the senate but not for the presidency. He hasn't the experience as shown by his blunder on immigration and the gang of 8! I think he learned by it but it showed he is not ready for prime time (Yet)!
He has more experience than Obama did, and He got elected.

Apparently Experience went out the door
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 04:43:22 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:38:31 PM
I understand that, but He is fighting an uphill battle not only is He fighting the MSM he is up against the GOP

So let me ask you this, Do you think Regan could win in this day and age?
Yes! Ronnie wasn't called the great communicator for nothing. He was a great speaker and knew how to reach the average person on their level! Cruz can do this, So can Walker!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
Thats the way the left is trying to portray him, and being the left controls the MSM it will be a big hurtle

You are right about the "Left".  However, they will not carry the election.  The right and middle will carry the day.  And they will vote for Cruz.

As far as the msm is concerned, not that many people watch them anymore..... especially the younger people.  Only the gray haired folks still tune in.

The uninformed voters will eventually awaken to the merits of a Cruz Presidency.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
He has more experience than Obama did, and He got elected.

Apparently Experience went out the door
Who's experience are you talking about? Rubio Has a lot of experience in the Florida legislature and 1 term as a US senator, Cruz Was an Atty general and 1 term in the senate. Walker is a sitting governor Forced to run for the same office 3 times in 2 terms and still found time to run the state rather will even with the distractions!
They all are more qualified then Obama when he first ran!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 23, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
You are right about the "Left".  However, they will not carry the election.  The right and middle will carry the day.  And they will vote for Cruz.

As far as the msm is concerned, not that many people watch them anymore..... especially the younger people.  Only the gray haired folks still tune in.

The uninformed voters will eventually awaken to the merits of a Cruz Presidency.   :thumbsup:
I agree, I think the best thing to happen to the right is, the internet. Now instead of just swallowing MSM more of the younger people can go to the candidates site and read what they are all about
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
Who's experience are you talking about? Rubio Has a lot of experience in the Florida legislature and 1 term as a US senator, Cruz Was an Atty general and 1 term in the senate. Walker is a sitting governor Forced to run for the same office 3 times in 2 terms and still found time to run the state rather will even with the distractions!
They all are more qualified then Obama when he first ran!
Rubio has more, Yah
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2015, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
What I am trying to get at is, How are the swing voters going to see him? You and I would vote for
Cruz if He got the nomination but how will He be perceived by people who only vote once every four years and dont pay much attention to politics ?
They did, they voted for the rockstar. There is no leftist rockstar running, so most will simply stay home considering how pissed they are at the Dims.

QuoteSo far they are going after him because He was born in Canada. which the MSM had a field day with
Matters not, he's more than eligible.

QuoteYou honestly dont think that 'The first Female President' isnt going to be pushed by the Left?
She will push that along with Equal rights for women. Thats all she really has.

Obama had no experience on anything and IMO was voted in because He was black so its so hard to believe they wont push the gender issue
Hitlery....Really? But it matters not, the Dim party is in full collapse.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2015, 05:22:59 PM
They did, they voted for the rockstar. There is no leftist rockstar running, so most will simply stay home considering how pissed they are at the Dims.
Matters not, he's more than eligible.
Hitlery....Really? But it matters not, the Dim party is in full collapse.
I have to admit, I dint think Hillary would run.....................So much baggage

Bob Beckle (The 5) didnt think she would run either.

If the right plays it right,they could easily win this, but they dont have the MSM in there pocket
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 23, 2015, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
I have to admit, I dint think Hillary would run.....................So much baggage

Bob Beckle (The 5) didnt think she would run either.

If the right plays it right,they could easily win this, but they dont have the MSM in there pocket

She's not running.  She may have declared, but I don't have twitter and wouldn't know.  Nonetheless, she's just collecting as much cash as she can.  She isn't really running.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
I have to admit, I dint think Hillary would run.....................So much baggage

Bob Beckle (The 5) didnt think she would run either.

If the right plays it right,they could easily win this, but they dont have the MSM in there pocket
Could win? I don''t know why you can't see it, but the nation hates the left, if for no other reasons than all the illegals streaming it, the health care debacle, high energy costs, higher taxes, less freedoms, and so on.
We could run a dog and win.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2015, 06:21:44 PM
She's not running.  She may have declared, but I don't have twitter and wouldn't know.  Nonetheless, she's just collecting as much cash as she can.  She isn't really running.
I cant argue that. Just so you know, I cant stand the woman.

Whenever I see her talk, In my mind she is lying.I couldnt stand another 8 years of that
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 23, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
Could win? I don''t know why you can't see it, but the nation hates the left, if for no other reasons than all the illegals streaming it, the health care debacle, high energy costs, higher taxes, less freedoms, and so on.
We could run a dog and win.
Why I cant see it?

They voted for OBama Twice!

I probably say it to much but I think the MSM has a lot of power (Too Much) they report or in many cases dont report
negative things that should be reported.

Someone said, Mostly old people watch the Networks but a lot of Newspapers are considered Mainsteam, like NY Times they all stick together. That includes leftwing web sites

So that makes it where the right has to work twice as hard to get there message out.

But yah, I agree with everything else you wrote
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on April 23, 2015, 09:12:33 PM
Ted Cruz on Adam Carolla show:

Ted Cruz does great interview on Adam Carolla Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5acK59NFhc#)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 24, 2015, 05:07:10 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 23, 2015, 09:12:33 PM
Ted Cruz on Adam Carolla show:

Ted Cruz does great interview on Adam Carolla Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5acK59NFhc#)

Great link, taxed.

That really showcases Ted's strengths.

And his mantra is :   Always tell the truth... and Always do what you promise!

If Americans are truly angry with Washington, they should embrace the only candidate that Washington hates.

They hate him because he is a real threat to the status quo if he gets elected.

If you wanted to change Washington, elect Ted !!!!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 24, 2015, 05:48:44 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
Why I cant see it?

They voted for OBama Twice!

I probably say it to much but I think the MSM has a lot of power (Too Much) they report or in many cases dont report
negative things that should be reported.

Someone said, Mostly old people watch the Networks but a lot of Newspapers are considered Mainsteam, like NY Times they all stick together. That includes leftwing web sites

So that makes it where the right has to work twice as hard to get there message out.

But yah, I agree with everything else you wrote

What happened with Obama has no comparison to Hillary. As mentioned earlier, she does not have that rock star appeal that Obama had. Many of the brain dead that voted for him will not even know there is an election in 2016. The middle has had enough of Clinton Inc., not to mention she is a terrible candidate.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 24, 2015, 05:52:42 AM
Quote from: redbeard on April 23, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
Who's experience are you talking about? Rubio Has a lot of experience in the Florida legislature and 1 term as a US senator, Cruz Was an Atty general and 1 term in the senate. Walker is a sitting governor Forced to run for the same office 3 times in 2 terms and still found time to run the state rather will even with the distractions!
They all are more qualified then Obama when he first ran!
Good point!  They are all more qualified than Obama when he first ran!  Even Linsay theLap Dog friggin Graham would make a far better POTUS than what we have now. (and t=don't get your tail in a knot, I'm not supporting the Lapdog for anything but helping to qualify him for unemployment).  The fact is, that we have to take back our country (from the Marxists) and any of our candidates could provide the Leadership that is needed for us to come together and do this! 

It's all a matter of degrees;  Any of these candidates would halt the pendulum swing and start it back int RIGHT direction!  No doubt, Ted Cruz would give it the hardest push and create the greatest momentum!  It remains to be seen if the majority of the electorate, including the almighty power  of the "uniformed voters" will support what I am willing to concede is a more radical conservative push.  The media may be able to pusuade these folks that even though they voted for a radical leftist, they need to elect someone more "moderate".      Someone more moderate than Ted Cruz, would be a great conservative like Scott Walker.  Someone more moderate than Scott Walker would be a good conservative like Marco Rubio.  (Rand Paul needs to pick conservatism or loyalty to his daddy; ultimately, I think he'll get it, but it's a hard choice for any son, who loves and respects his Dad).

The others are not Liberals, they just aren't "Top shelf" conservative choices, in my humble opinion!
All this RINO labeling of anyone not pure enough to deserve a "conservative" stamp on their ass, is kind of troubling.  We always seem to shoot ourselves in the foot, failing to see that we need many Leaders all pulling in the same generral direction and it's okay to prefer one over another, but we don't need to damage the others beyond repair!

The strength of the enemy is that every Democrat is supported by every Democrat.  They consider us to be their enemy, while we often focus far to much attention on the enemies within our own Party.  This helps us to get defeated!  Those who we want to get rid of, we need to get rid of when the time comes (like when they are up for reelection and we decide on a better choice (if their is one) at the time of a primary for their particular office.  Until that time, we have to play the cards we are holding in our hand, otherwise we might as well fold!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 24, 2015, 06:33:25 AM
I would like to remind us that RINO staff members monitor these conservative sites.

They constantly monitor the pulse of the grassroots.... to see how far to the left they can push us.

At this early point in the election process I believe the worst thing we can do is cede any ground to the Establishment.

NOW is the time to be strongly committed to the most conservative of candidates.

Saying that we will vote for ANY GOP candidate is akin to throwing in the towel before the Primaries even begin.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 24, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 24, 2015, 06:33:25 AM
I would like to remind us that RINO staff members monitor these conservative sites.

They constantly monitor the pulse of the grassroots.... to see how far to the left they can push us.

At this early point in the election process I believe the worst thing we can do is cede any ground to the Establishment.

NOW is the time to be strongly committed to the most conservative of candidates.

Saying that we will vote for ANY GOP candidate is akin to throwing in the towel before the Primaries even begin.
TRANSLATION:   " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get cha! "
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2015, 07:38:38 AM
Quote from: Norseman on April 23, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
Why I cant see it?

They voted for OBama Twice!
Donn''t discount fraud, as well as the fact the base stayed home because they refuse to vote for another rino.

QuoteI probably say it to much but I think the MSM has a lot of power (Too Much) they report or in many cases dont report
negative things that should be reported.
Yep, without a doubt, leaving out pertinent information and obfuscation by definition, is lying.
However, data shows that network media is dying rapidly and losing influence daily, despite this loss in revenue and viewership, the left supporting them financially is bleeding them dry.
The entire left media in total, can't compare to FOX viewership, which isn't even right wing.
This is evidence that the leftist agenda is being rejected by the majority of the nation.

QuoteSomeone said, Mostly old people watch the Networks but a lot of Newspapers are considered Mainsteam, like NY Times they all stick together. That includes leftwing web sites
Again, just because they have a majority in numbers, still does not equate to majority opinion.

QuoteSo that makes it where the right has to work twice as hard to get there message out.
Agree, but we are getting the message out, coupled with the fact that the nation is still majority Conservative.

QuoteBut yah, I agree with everything else you wrote
OK  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2015, 07:40:44 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 24, 2015, 06:33:25 AM
I would like to remind us that RINO staff members monitor these conservative sites.

They constantly monitor the pulse of the grassroots.... to see how far to the left they can push us.

At this early point in the election process I believe the worst thing we can do is cede any ground to the Establishment.

NOW is the time to be strongly committed to the most conservative of candidates.

Saying that we will vote for ANY GOP candidate is akin to throwing in the towel before the Primaries even begin.
Nailed it!!!! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2015, 07:41:25 AM
Quote from: wally on April 24, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
TRANSLATION:   " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get cha! "
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 27, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
It is sad to see how easy it is for the gay community to intimidate people.....

Cruz's dinner host apologizes for hospitality -  NYT: "Ian Reisner, one of the two gay hoteliers facing boycott calls for hosting an event for Senator Ted Cruz, [R-Texas] who is adamantly opposed to gay marriage, apologized to the gay community for showing 'poor judgment.' Mr. Reisner put the apology on Facebook, where a page calling for a boycott of his properties, the gay-friendly OUT NYC hotel and his Fire Island Pines holdings, had gotten more than 8,200 'likes' by Sunday evening... 'I was ignorant, naive and much too quick in accepting a request to co-host a dinner with Cruz at my home without taking the time to completely understand all of his positions on gay rights,' Mr. Reisner said."  Fox News Online
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: wally on April 27, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 27, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
It is sad to see how easy it is for the gay community to intimidate people.....

Cruz's dinner host apologizes for hospitality -  NYT: "Ian Reisner, one of the two gay hoteliers facing boycott calls for hosting an event for Senator Ted Cruz, [R-Texas] who is adamantly opposed to gay marriage, apologized to the gay community for showing 'poor judgment.' Mr. Reisner put the apology on Facebook, where a page calling for a boycott of his properties, the gay-friendly OUT NYC hotel and his Fire Island Pines holdings, had gotten more than 8,200 'likes' by Sunday evening... 'I was ignorant, naive and much too quick in accepting a request to co-host a dinner with Cruz at my home without taking the time to completely understand all of his positions on gay rights,' Mr. Reisner said."  Fox News Online
Yes,I heard this on Rush todday.  I also heard that Ted Cruze's main  financier of his campaign is an openly gay Republican.  The gay Lefties called him on it and he didn't fold; he doubled his campaign contribution!  lol...  I'm guessing it was problably him that asked this other gay guy to hoset the event.  He went all wobbly legged, when the media stormed his palace!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 27, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: wally on April 27, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
Yes,I heard this on Rush todday.  I also heard that Ted Cruze's main  financier of his campaign is an openly gay Republican.  The gay Lefties called him on it and he didn't fold; he doubled his campaign contribution!  lol...  I'm guessing it was problably him that asked this other gay guy to hoset the event.  He went all wobbly legged, when the media stormed his palace!

Thanks for that information wally.  I did not know that.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on April 27, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Still looking at the assertion, "Millennials (born 1980 to 2010) reject Cruz."  Nothing substantive now, but a couple of points of interests.
1. America's new Gallup is Pew Research. Americans soak up everything Pew publishes as if it were infallible. Pew relies heavily on telephone surveys, land line and cell phone. To the best of  my knowledge, Pew has never had anyone hang up on them or decline to be interviewed. But then, why would they?  There is no one who does not love Pew.
2. The term Millennials annoys many scholars, who feel it is a made-up term just because.
The defining event for Millennials is said to be Columbine.  Eighteen year olds are Millennials.
3. American grow more conservative as they age, and the trend proceeds in a stair step pattern. Generations tend to shift attitudes all at the same time. All of a sudden, it becomes cool to shift to the conservative. Millennials are on schedule for a shift, actually overdue, to the conservative.
4. This is important: the majority of the voting Millennials have passed through that stage of high vulnerablity to peer pressure, which, as we know, Obama played to the hilt. Obama had the whole damn bunch of them believing that a vote for him was cool and that their grandparents and parents were uncool, even racist, in his slick little coded commie ways.
5. Point is, the Millennials have grown past the point of easily persuaded, and there has been no
generation to replace it.  They came of age with I-pods and laptops, and have advanced to computer wrist watches.  The generation after them are now in elementary school. If the Millennials look up to anyone (sketchy supposition at best) it is the Gen X, who are now 30-60 years. That raises another point of investigation.

Conclusion:  Those who say Ted Cruz turns off the Millennials  have been watching too much NPR.
The left and the MSM will go all out to impress them, but will have to treat them like children. They are not children  any more.



Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 27, 2015, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on April 27, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Still looking at the assertion, "Millennials (born 1980 to 2010) reject Cruz."  Nothing substantive now, but a couple of points of interests.
1. America's new Gallup is Pew Research. Americans soak up everything Pew publishes as if it were infallible. Pew relies heavily on telephone surveys, land line and cell phone. To the best of  my knowledge, Pew has never had anyone hang up on them or decline to be interviewed. But then, why would they?  There is no one who does not love Pew.
2. The term Millennials annoys many scholars, who feel it is a made-up term just because.
The defining event for Millennials is said to be Columbine.  Eighteen year olds are Millennials.
3. American grow more conservative as they age, and the trend proceeds in a stair step pattern. Generations tend to shift attitudes all at the same time. All of a sudden, it becomes cool to shift to the conservative. Millennials are on schedule for a shift, actually overdue, to the conservative.
4. This is important: the majority of the voting Millennials have passed through that stage of high vulnerablity to peer pressure, which, as we know, Obama played to the hilt. Obama had the whole damn bunch of them believing that a vote for him was cool and that their grandparents and parents were uncool, even racist, in his slick little coded commie ways.
5. Point is, the Millennials have grown past the point of easily persuaded, and there has been no
generation to replace it.  They came of age with I-pods and laptops, and have advanced to computer wrist watches.  The generation after them are now in elementary school. If the Millennials look up to anyone (sketchy supposition at best) it is the Gen X, who are now 30-60 years. That raises another point of investigation.

Conclusion:  Those who say Ted Cruz turns off the Millennials  have been watching too much NPR.
The left and the MSM will go all out to impress them, but will have to treat them like children. They are not children  any more.

Thanks for that information red_dirt.  Your inquisition has been enlightening.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on April 27, 2015, 07:11:32 PM
You are welcome, Kroz. I'm really just getting started on the topic, but thought any information can get to the hands of the conservatives, the better.  Incidentally, those "population shifts" to the conservative continue to stair step through the entire life of a generation.  It is not what I had expected, that people become more liberal and government dependent as they age. To the contrary, people become less enamored of government as they age, and less vulnerable to peer pressure.  :thumbsup:

It goes back to the claim that twerp made on discus.

I have been struck that Millennials do think differently. For example, roving gangs have made our cities less safe. The Millennials work in cities, often solo, and do not tend to travel in gangs. So, they have come up with this cell phone app which is essentially puts out an S.O.S. to other Millennials who have pledged to respond and support. They say, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." And, who knows what could be in any of those back packs?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 29, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush are vying for the hispanic voters.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/29/how-jeb-bush-and-ted-cruz-are-making-a-play-for-the-hispanic-vote-wednesday-and-beyond/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/29/how-jeb-bush-and-ted-cruz-are-making-a-play-for-the-hispanic-vote-wednesday-and-beyond/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on April 29, 2015, 07:24:35 PM
Quote from: kroz on April 29, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush are vying for the hispanic voters.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/29/how-jeb-bush-and-ted-cruz-are-making-a-play-for-the-hispanic-vote-wednesday-and-beyond/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/29/how-jeb-bush-and-ted-cruz-are-making-a-play-for-the-hispanic-vote-wednesday-and-beyond/)

But, but Jeb is more Hispanic then Cruz, by his way of thinking.   :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 30, 2015, 04:34:22 AM
Quote from: walkstall on April 29, 2015, 07:24:35 PM
But, but Jeb is more Hispanic then Cruz, by his way of thinking.   :lol:

He had better get a LOT of hispanic support because he is not getting much GOP support!

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on April 30, 2015, 04:50:52 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 30, 2015, 04:34:22 AM
He had better get a LOT of hispanic support because he is not getting much GOP support!

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/)

:thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on April 30, 2015, 06:16:35 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 30, 2015, 04:34:22 AM
He had better get a LOT of hispanic support because he is not getting much GOP support!

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/ (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-has-the-cash-but-not-the-gop-support/)

As I remember his wife is Hispanic not Jeb.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 30, 2015, 06:22:39 AM
Quote from: walkstall on April 30, 2015, 06:16:35 AM
As I remember his wife is Hispanic not Jeb.

yeah...... he married "up".........   :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on April 30, 2015, 06:33:55 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 30, 2015, 06:22:39 AM
yeah...... he married "up".........   :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on April 30, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
I saw an unconfirmed report Jeb wants to make Puerto Rico our 51st state.

Can you think of a better place to build Supermax prisons once Obama gives away Gitmo?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on April 30, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: quiller on April 30, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
I saw an unconfirmed report Jeb wants to make Puerto Rico our 51st state.

Can you think of a better place to build Supermax prisons once Obama gives away Gitmo?

.....  and pick up a million more democrat voters!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 02, 2015, 09:33:28 AM
Just when I think I am politically hardened, something comes along to burst that bubble. I read something in a Democratic leaning blog that left me speechless.

The writer's claim was that Ted Cruz popularity was GOP strategy to appeal to Hispanics.  You read something like that, you really don't know how to react. Maybe foremost, that demonstrates the Democratic mind set as well as anything. I suppose we could think this was meant as an insult, but considering the source, I am not so sure.

Chicago Democratic Machine Boss Richard Daley used to spend every morning going over city hires and contracts, checking them off by neighborhood and ethnicity, to make sure the patronage was distributed over the range. That way, he kept his army of ward healers and operatives happy and working on the behalf of the Democratic Machine. At first, this method seems fair and honorable, until we stop to think, in the process, Daley was molding city government into a race and religion based Ponzi scheme, with himself at the head. 

Now, Democrats cannot imagine that Ted Cruz or the conservatives might have something worth listening to. They are too obsessed with Chicago styled politics, truth be known, the politics that have turned Chicago, and many other American cities, into what we see today.

I  honestly expect to read someday that JEB Bush married a lady from Mexico and convered Catholic to broaden his voter appeal.  Right, a Bush, no less. Moral of the story is the Democrats are so far out in left field...well, look at the two candidates, so far.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on May 02, 2015, 09:47:18 AM
Quote from: kroz on April 30, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
.....  and pick up a million more democrat voters!
Privately-owned prisons would offer honest jobs for construction, guarding and maintaining these places. It would be terrific for their economy and "the" place to be sent to, if we built it to Democrat standards (Club Fed times 10). If conservatives build it, the cell doors would last 10,000 years, opening once on arrival and again on parole of that cell's inhabitant.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 02, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
Back to Ted Cruz's campaign.....

It looks like there is a well oiled machine ginning  through the early primary States that is growing Cruz's base.  As the article says.... he seems to be hitting on a lot of cylinders!!

Ted is striking a chord with people who hear his message. 

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-washington-times-ted-cruz-hitting-on-a-lot-of-cylinders-in-presidential-campaign/?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonv6vKZKXonjHpfsX84%2BUtW6Gg38431UFwdcjKPmjr1YIHS8B0aPyQAgobGp5I5FEKS7HYXa1mt6EOUg%3D%3D (https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-washington-times-ted-cruz-hitting-on-a-lot-of-cylinders-in-presidential-campaign/?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonv6vKZKXonjHpfsX84%2BUtW6Gg38431UFwdcjKPmjr1YIHS8B0aPyQAgobGp5I5FEKS7HYXa1mt6EOUg%3D%3D)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 02, 2015, 03:41:43 PM

That is a good report. It seems to show what supporters have been saying all along; namely, that Senator Cruz's  presence causes conceptions learned from TV and avid opponents to vanish. Supporters have said from the start that the key to winning support is to get the Senator in front of as many people as possible, in person, not on TV.

The Bushes and Clintons run TV based campaigns.  Obama's was largely cell phone, with a lot of ground work. Obama could have been all right. He just is not the right person to be leading America.
Too much early far left indoctrination.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 02, 2015, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on May 02, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
That is a good report. It seems to show what supporters have been saying all along; namely, that Senator Cruz's  presence causes conceptions learned from TV and avid opponents to vanish. Supporters have said from the start that the key to winning support is to get the Senator in front of as many people as possible, in person, not on TV.

The Bushes and Clintons run TV based campaigns.  Obama's was largely cell phone, with a lot of ground work. Obama could have been all right. He just is not the right person to be leading America.
Too much early far left indoctrination.

And it was encouraging to learn that his fund raising is rising to the level needed to continue competing with the wealthy candidates.  I think he is right on schedule with his game plan.  He is continuing to rise in popularity and the media is treating him with much more respect than in the beginning.  He has earned his "wings"!   :wink:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 03, 2015, 02:45:01 AM
It is a little early to talk about supervised national elections.
Electronic machines, padded rolls, and aliens, they add up.
Maybe we could get some value out of all this DHS expense.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 11, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
POWER PLAY: MEET TED CRUZ'S DATA GURU
In his drive to be the GOP's nominee, Ted Cruz is making a big bet on big data. Cruz's director of Research and Analytics, Chris Wilson, joins Chris Stirewalt to look at the campaign's forward-leaning approach and how it shapes campaign outreach and messaging. WATCH HERE.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4225736446001/power-play-cruzs-big-data-push/?#sp=show-clips (http://video.foxnews.com/v/4225736446001/power-play-cruzs-big-data-push/?#sp=show-clips)

Fighting words - While campaigning in South Carolina, Cruz went on the attack against his fellow GOP Sixteeners for failing to stand up for religious liberty, among other things. It was a shift in tone and strategy. Lucky for you, then, that David Drucker was there to tell you what it meant.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-charts-fraught-territory-attacks-gop-opponents-on-religious-liberty/article/2564255 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-charts-fraught-territory-attacks-gop-opponents-on-religious-liberty/article/2564255)

Cruz interrogated on culture - Bloomberg's Mark Halperin interviewed Cruz a few weeks ago on the Texas senator's 2016 campaign plan and events, but mid-interview things took a nasty turn. The interview flew under the radar last week​ until Ruben Navarrette, a friend of Cruz, wrote a column on the racist questions Halperin asked. Questions like Cruz's favorite Cuban dishes, and songs were fired like a cultural test rather than an interview. But Halperin really sealed the deal when he asked Cruz to welcome Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., to the race...in Spanish.

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_28074484/ruben-navarrette-halperin-interview-ted-cruz-was-painful (http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_28074484/ruben-navarrette-halperin-interview-ted-cruz-was-painful)

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2015, 12:04:21 PM
Poor Halperin tried to play gotcha with Ted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLIKppQhigU

Here's the football equivalent of Halperin's play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rPIg7ZNQ8

-- test test --  does everyone else see these videos?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2015, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: kroz on May 11, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
Bloomberg's Mark Halperin interviewed Cruz a few weeks ago. The interview flew under the radar.
:lol:
I just wanted to sum up why the candidates need to ignore lib media. No One Watches Them, Unless a Conservative Is On.
And even then, no one pays them any mind, until we read about it from a Conservative source.. :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 11, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
Halperin apologizes for his Cruz interview...

Statement From Mark Halperin (http://www.scribd.com/doc/264961797/Statement-From-Mark-Halperin#)

hhmmm.... is anyone buying this??   :glare:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2015, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: kroz on May 11, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
Halperin apologizes for his Cruz interview...

Statement From Mark Halperin (http://www.scribd.com/doc/264961797/Statement-From-Mark-Halperin#)

hhmmm.... is anyone buying this??   :glare:
Is anyone paying attention? :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2015, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: kroz on May 11, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
Halperin apologizes for his Cruz interview...

Statement From Mark Halperin (http://www.scribd.com/doc/264961797/Statement-From-Mark-Halperin#)

hhmmm.... is anyone buying this??   :glare:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why is he apologizing?  That's like a clown apologizing for falling on his face!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on May 11, 2015, 02:24:29 PM
The GOP candidates should tell ABC that there will be no interviews with George Stephanopolis. He is nothing but a Clintonista.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on May 11, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
Quotehttp://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bloomberg-editor-apologizes-ted-cruz/2015/05/11/id/643932/


The jarring questions got hammered from both the right and left, including the Washington Post and Breitbart News, which slammed the interview under a headline blaring: "Sing us a Song, Boy: Mark Halperin's Racist Interview with Ted Cruz."

Syndicated columnist Ruben Navarrette called the exchange "painful" and "nauseating."

"This was bad journalism, bad form, and bad manners," he wrote Saturday in a column published Saturday by the San Jose Mercury News. "I kept waiting for Halperin to ask Cruz to play the conga drums like Desi Arnaz while dancing salsa and sipping cafe con leche — all to prove the Republican is really Cuban."

Looks like the Bloomberg hit piece backfired big time!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 11, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: redbeard on May 11, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
Looks like the Bloomberg hit piece backfired big time!

This tells me Washington and the RINO are worried about Cruz. An interview like this doesn't just happen. It is a reflection of the daily conversations of the Left wingers that represent the  Bloomberg
organization. The writer clearly was simply extending his daily walk and was no doubt surprised at the negative public reaction to his taunts.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on May 11, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on May 11, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
This tells me Washington and the RINO are worried about Cruz. An interview like this doesn't just happen. It is a reflection of the daily conversations of the Left wingers that represent the  Bloomberg
organization. The writer clearly was simply extending his daily walk and was no doubt surprised at the negative public reaction to his taunts.
Bloomberg himself is the worse of the RINO's. He will be a major Bush supporter and if bush fails he will throw his support to Crusty! Instead of putting out honest messaging to let the voters decide they. just like the lib press, are trying to shape the message to their candidates position. It is not just Cruz they will do this to but anyone of our candidates that have a conservative message and conservative support!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
Cruz exhibits class and lets Halperin off the hook...  Cruz could blindfold himself and smash these morons at this point.

https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464 (https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 11, 2015, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 11, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
Cruz exhibits class and lets Halperin off the hook...  Cruz could blindfold himself and smash these morons at this point.

https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464 (https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464)

Indeed!  Cruz is all class!   Gotta love that guy!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 11, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
Cruz exhibits class and lets Halperin off the hook...  Cruz could blindfold himself and smash these morons at this point.

https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464 (https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10153279456007464)
Yep, class act.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 13, 2015, 10:44:59 AM
From Fox News online.....



CRUZ TOPS MOST CONSERVATIVE SENATORS LIST
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, along with fellow Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, take the top spots in the American Conservative Union's annual congressional rankings both at 100 percent support of conservative positions. The list bases candidates on issues the ACU supports and doesn't support, and also gives points for those who announce they are in favor of an ACU position. Other top senators on the list include Republican presidential contenders Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rand Paul, R-Ky., both at 96 percent staying steady from last year's ranking. Potential Republican contender Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., didn't fare so well at 74 percent, but showed improvement from last year's spot at 68 percent.


Gay hoteliers find repudiating Cruz insufficient for critics - Remember the hotel tycoons who hosted the dinner for Ted Cruz a few weeks ago? Well, the gay community does. Mati Weiderpass, one of the hosts, wrote an op-ed in the Observer on the harsh reaction he's received from the gay community.  He writes, "It is amazing that my businesses are being boycotted by some because I hosted a discussion with an elected official. Not a fundraiser. Not an endorsement. A dialogue."
http://observer.com/2015/05/gay-extremists-must-not-silence-those-who-support-discussion-and-dialogue/

"I think it is important for someone to stand by what they believe.  And you know what I've tried to do in the Senate has been really simple, it's been tell the truth...if I'm with you, I'm really with you, if I'm not with you, I'm not  with you.  And I think people respect that." – Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on "The Kelly File"
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 13, 2015, 05:04:28 PM
If I had the chance to interview Cruz I would mention that he was born in Canada and take a shot at Halperin by asking Cruz to say hello in Canadian.

What an effin numpty.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 05:04:28 PM
If I had the chance to interview Cruz I would mention that he was born in Canada and take a shot at Halperin by asking Cruz to say hello in Canadian.

What an effin numpty.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

G' Day mate...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 13, 2015, 07:43:17 PM
Cruz, Walker, favored.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/12/hot-air-primary-survey-may-results/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 13, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on May 13, 2015, 07:43:17 PM
Cruz, Walker, favored.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/12/hot-air-primary-survey-may-results/

Yeah. Something is wrong. I have seen several polls on television where Cruz doesn't have enough support to register. The media might be purposely marginalizing him.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on May 13, 2015, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Yeah. Something is wrong. I have seen several polls on television where Cruz doesn't have enough support to register. The media might be purposely marginalizing him.

American media?  I... I just can't believe that.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 13, 2015, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on May 13, 2015, 09:19:51 PM
American media?  I... I just can't believe that.

I know. Hard to believe but apparently they aren't really honest. That's just what I've heard...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on May 13, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 09:21:35 PM
I know. Hard to believe but apparently they aren't really honest. That's just what I've heard...

Now when would the media lies to manipulate us.  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 13, 2015, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: walkstall on May 13, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
Now when would the media lies to manipulate us.  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Oh only all the time, Well not all the time. Brian Williams is no longer on air...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on May 13, 2015, 11:04:13 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 09:35:53 PM
Oh only all the time, Well not all the time. Brian Williams is no longer on air...

Who?  Oh... was that the guy who took down those terrorists?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 13, 2015, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 13, 2015, 11:04:13 PM
Who?  Oh... was that the guy who took down those terrorists?

And found the cure for male pattern baldness. He also taught Stephen Hawking how to do physics...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2015, 04:04:09 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Yeah. Something is wrong. I have seen several polls on television where Cruz doesn't have enough support to register. The media might be purposely marginalizing him.
Now the question is, who will break the news to the leftists?
I mean seriously, if they're so out of touch living in this bubble where they and rino live, where believing Jeb has a fly's chance of reaching his destination in a tornado, and Obola getting his news from TV (so he claims).
Do we wait for the election results to be the bearer of bad news to these Bubble Dwellers, or should we let them in on our big secret, that the base is taking back the country?

I don't know which is more fun. Shocking them now, or waiting till Nov 5th to see the crying in the streets, hearing the howls of loss and desperation over the realization that what we've been saying all along is now a reality, that the Dim party is dead and rino marginalized.

Lets wait, the full shock will probably be far more entertaining. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 14, 2015, 05:08:24 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 13, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Yeah. Something is wrong. I have seen several polls on television where Cruz doesn't have enough support to register. The media might be purposely marginalizing him.

I think this poll was probably taken from the Hot Air website members.  You would expect a conservative to win from Hot Air fans.  That is why it looks so different than many other polls.

But I do think Cruz is doing MUCH better than the general polls reflect.

If you look at the early primary States.... Cruz is doing extremely well.  Jeb isn't even competing in Iowa.  The pollsters tend to ignore it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2015, 05:15:53 AM
Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 05:08:24 AM
I think this poll was probably taken from the Hot Air website members.  You would expect a conservative to win from Hot Air fans.  That is why it looks so different than many other polls.

But I do think Cruz is doing MUCH better than the general polls reflect.

If you look at the early primary States.... Cruz is doing extremely well.  Jeb isn't even competing in Iowa.  The pollsters tend to ignore it.
It was sarcasm. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on May 14, 2015, 06:37:57 AM
Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 05:08:24 AM
I think this poll was probably taken from the Hot Air website members.  You would expect a conservative to win from Hot Air fans.  That is why it looks so different than many other polls.

But I do think Cruz is doing MUCH better than the general polls reflect.

If you look at the early primary States.... Cruz is doing extremely well.  Jeb isn't even competing in Iowa.  The pollsters tend to ignore it.

Remember back in 2008 Rudy had a strategy to ignore Iowa and it led to the demise of his campaign. I understand why a politician would think Iowa is not all that important, but for some reason it maintains its importance.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 14, 2015, 06:43:24 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 14, 2015, 06:37:57 AM
Remember back in 2008 Rudy had a strategy to ignore Iowa and it led to the demise of his campaign. I understand why a politician would think Iowa is not all that important, but for some reason it maintains its importance.

RINOs fear the RINO free zone of Iowa!  Those folks are the heart of mid America and totally uninfluenced  by the liberal metropolises.  It is an enigma that frustrates the Establishment.  It doesn't fit their understanding of politics.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 14, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
Iowa is beholden to Washington for farm subsidies and now ethanol subsidies. Washington has long been good at using our tax money to create dependency, directly and indirectly.  As an example, think how the food business is affected by food stamps. That's tax money through the cash register.

In the case of ethanol, might as well say it retails for $2.85 a gallon. Half the corn in Iowa now goes to ethanol.

I'm not enough of an economist to have it figured out, but I know those questions  put Ted Cruz on the spot. He couched his remarks by saying he was not to lie to them. Then went on to say he favored free market solutions and smaller government. What could he say to the corn farmers?  Christie said he is all for ethanol.  Iowa's record of supporting the eventual GOP nominee is one of the worst.


Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 21, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
Fox News online....

Cruz picked up a few endorsements of his own - Texas Tribune: "Republican U.S. Reps. Michael Burgess of Lewisville, John Culberson of Houston, Louie Gohmert of Tyler and John Ratcliffe of Heath are all backing the state's junior senator on Thursday, according to a Cruz campaign news release obtained by The Texas Tribune."

[Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, attends Watchmen on the Wall, an event for pastors, in Washington today.]


Every endorsement helps!!! 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on May 22, 2015, 02:02:03 PM
Cruz on the Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=video&id=2328
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on May 22, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
Senator Cruz's oration skills are perfect.

I like the part near the end where the bimbos get up out of their chairs while he is still talking. What a stressful job that must be. If that were Hillary talking, they'd have hung on every word, the bims, I mean.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2015, 05:29:58 AM
Quote from: kroz on May 21, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
Fox News online....

Cruz picked up a few endorsements of his own - Texas Tribune: "Republican U.S. Reps. Michael Burgess of Lewisville, John Culberson of Houston, Louie Gohmert of Tyler and John Ratcliffe of Heath are all backing the state's junior senator on Thursday, according to a Cruz campaign news release obtained by The Texas Tribune."

[Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, attends Watchmen on the Wall, an event for pastors, in Washington today.]


Every endorsement helps!!!
It's beyond me as to why anyone wouldn't back him. Seriously, he walks the walk, talks the talk, best, brightest and most informed debater in decades, solid Conservative and most formidable opponent to come along since Reagan.

Point is, to not endorse Ted, is almost proof positive of rino status, like the race card, except RINO carry an E card, for Establishment, as in bribe card, get out of jail free card.
Yeah, it's coming to the point where whom you endorse, signals your lifespan in office, and if these people want to stay in office, they better back a Conservative, and Cruz so far, is the only declared Conservative.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 18, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Radio Talk host Hugh Hewitt declares Ted Cruz to be the frontrunner in the GOP race.....

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/06/17/hewitt-right-now-ted-cruz-is-the-gop-frontrunner-and-would-kill-hillary-in-debates/

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on June 18, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 18, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Radio Talk host Hugh Hewitt declares Ted Cruz to be the frontrunner in the GOP race.....

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/06/17/hewitt-right-now-ted-cruz-is-the-gop-frontrunner-and-would-kill-hillary-in-debates/
I see the leftist trolls are coming out of the woodwork to proclaim Cruz dead because he supported TPP.
I'm having fun over there. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 20, 2015, 10:07:08 AM
Here is the Hugh Hewitt video.......


https://youtu.be/4Oy2HFcagpk
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 21, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Cruz dominated at the Faith and Freedom Convention.....


Cruz flat-out owned this event, firing up the crowd like no other candidate did — attendees were still talking about him two days after he spoke. The Texas senator delivered a rousing call to action aimed at the evangelical community, saying that 50 million of them sat home in 2012 but could make the difference in 2016. "If people of faith show up, if we stand for our faith and our liberty and the Constitution, we will win and turn the country around," he said. To a rapt crowd, Cruz did his best Reagan impression when he promised "Morning is coming. Morning is coming." And he tore into what he framed as the Obama administration's assault on religious liberty — a prominent theme at the conference. When Cruz finished, the crowd mobbed him.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/faith-and-freedom-coalition-winners-and-losers-119255.html#ixzz3dkCTBukp

I told you guys that Cruz electrifies an audience!!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on June 21, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 21, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Cruz dominated at the Faith and Freedom Convention.....


Cruz flat-out owned this event, firing up the crowd like no other candidate did — attendees were still talking about him two days after he spoke. The Texas senator delivered a rousing call to action aimed at the evangelical community, saying that 50 million of them sat home in 2012 but could make the difference in 2016. "If people of faith show up, if we stand for our faith and our liberty and the Constitution, we will win and turn the country around," he said. To a rapt crowd, Cruz did his best Reagan impression when he promised "Morning is coming. Morning is coming." And he tore into what he framed as the Obama administration's assault on religious liberty — a prominent theme at the conference. When Cruz finished, the crowd mobbed him.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/faith-and-freedom-coalition-winners-and-losers-119255.html#ixzz3dkCTBukp

I told you guys that Cruz electrifies an audience!!!!


Speeches "do not" impress me much, it's what you say you will do and you do it that impress me.  The MSM is doing what they can do to keep him out of the limelight.  But he just keeps walking over the top of them.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on June 21, 2015, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 21, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Cruz dominated at the Faith and Freedom Convention.....


Cruz flat-out owned this event, firing up the crowd like no other candidate did — attendees were still talking about him two days after he spoke. The Texas senator delivered a rousing call to action aimed at the evangelical community, saying that 50 million of them sat home in 2012 but could make the difference in 2016. "If people of faith show up, if we stand for our faith and our liberty and the Constitution, we will win and turn the country around," he said. To a rapt crowd, Cruz did his best Reagan impression when he promised "Morning is coming. Morning is coming." And he tore into what he framed as the Obama administration's assault on religious liberty — a prominent theme at the conference. When Cruz finished, the crowd mobbed him.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/faith-and-freedom-coalition-winners-and-losers-119255.html#ixzz3dkCTBukp

I told you guys that Cruz electrifies an audience!!!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is the stuff people are watching for, and this is what will get Ted elected. :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on June 22, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2015, 08:08:18 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is the stuff people are watching for, and this is what will get Ted elected. :cool:

I've seen and heard of Cruz enough to anticipate his being nominated and winning the office of president.  His goings on are enough to scare the britches off of the liberals and you can believe there will be enough voter fraud going on this time around, more vote recounts and all the controversy associated with liberal's unrest at the possibility of not getting their way.  'Bout danged time.  I can't wait for the slaughter that will ensue over a debate between Cruz and who will answer as the liberal clown. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2015, 05:29:16 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on June 22, 2015, 05:06:54 AM
I've seen and heard of Cruz enough to anticipate his being nominated and winning the office of president.  His goings on are enough to scare the britches off of the liberals and you can believe there will be enough voter fraud going on this time around, more vote recounts and all the controversy associated with liberal's unrest at the possibility of not getting their way.  'Bout danged time.  I can't wait for the slaughter that will ensue over a debate between Cruz and who will answer as the liberal clown.
If whomever the Marxist candidate is, they'd be smart not to go toe to toe against Ted.
It's one thing to simply lose in a landslide defeat against Ted, but to voluntarily douse oneself with gas during the bloody beating is  just insane. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Darth Fife on June 22, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 21, 2015, 06:34:42 PM

Speeches "do not" impress me much, it's what you say you will do and you do it that impress me.  The MSM is doing what they can do to keep him out of the limelight.  But he just keeps walking over the top of them.   :thumbsup:

But this can't be possible! Ted Cruz is one of those "Dead End Conservatives" (according to talker Michael Medved) who shut down the government back in 2013!

How could he be in the primary let alone leading the Republican field?

:huh:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on June 22, 2015, 04:19:28 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 22, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
But this can't be possible! Ted Cruz is one of those "Dead End Conservatives" (according to talker Michael Medved) who shut down the government back in 2013!

How could he be in the primary let alone leading the Republican field?

:huh:

The hole government should have been shut down.  That way b o could not play games, as he did.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 23, 2015, 05:46:46 AM
Ted speaks out again against the Republican leadership...



Why does Republican Leadership always give in to the Democrats? Why does Leadership always disregard the promises made to the conservative grassroots?

Enough is enough. I cannot vote for TPA unless McConnell and Boehner both commit publicly to allow the Ex-Im Bank to expire—and stay expired. And, Congress must also pass the Cruz-Sessions amendments to TPA to ensure that no trade agreement can try to back-door changes to our immigration laws. Otherwise, I will have no choice but vote no.

There's too much corporate welfare, too much cronyism and corrupt dealmaking, by the Washington cartel. For too long, career politicians in both parties have supported government of the lobbyist, by the lobbyist, and for the lobbyist – at the expense of the taxpayers. It's a time for truth. And a time to honor our commitments to the voters.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/exclusive-ted-cruz-obamatrade-enmeshed-in-corrupt-backroom-dealings/


Folks, if we are serious about supporting this man, now is the time to prove it.

June 30th is the cut off for the next financial reporting period for candidates.  All the news networks will be reporting on the candidates' ability to raise money and remain viable.

One reason Cruz rose to credibility in this race is because of his ability to raise money from the grassroots.  If he cannot maintain that impressive grassroots financial base, the press will write him off.

I am not repeating something the campaign said to me.  I am just telling it like it is.  If we don't give to his campaign..... he will not remain a strong candidate.  He really needs our commitment to him.  Give if you can!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on June 23, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 21, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
Speeches "do not" impress me much, it's what you say you will do and you do it that impress me.  The MSM is doing what they can do to keep him out of the limelight.  But he just keeps walking over the top of them.   :thumbsup:

What do you make of this? Cruz reversed his stand on Trade Deal.

http://libertynews.com/2015/06/breaking-senator-ted-cruz-reverses-decision-on-obamatrade-announces-hell-likely-vote-no/

His supporters were begging him to reverse his position, at the very least, wait until all the cards were turned face up. Now, it turns out in the discussions that Cruz's original yes vote may not have been such a bad thing. But the fact remains, the entire episode was clothed in secrecy and Boehner style politics.

I am going to say, "Way to go, Ted, You just demonstrated that you listen to us!!" What is lost in a cooling off period, as opposed to the expressed risk of voting the UN sovereignty over the economies of the civilized world.


Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 23, 2015, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on June 23, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
What do you make of this? Cruz reversed his stand on Trade Deal.

http://libertynews.com/2015/06/breaking-senator-ted-cruz-reverses-decision-on-obamatrade-announces-hell-likely-vote-no/

His supporters were begging him to reverse his position, at the very least, wait until all the cards were turned face up. Now, it turns out in the discussions that Cruz's original yes vote may not have been such a bad thing. But the fact remains, the entire episode was clothed in secrecy and Boehner style politics.

I am going to say, "Way to go, Ted, You just demonstrated that you listen to us!!" What is lost in a cooling off period, as opposed to the expressed risk of voting the UN sovereignty over the economies of the civilized world.

Yes, he sent out a blanket email to members of his crew that he was doing this and WHY!

I agree.  It was a good move on Ted's part.  He understands that the base is very solidly against giving Obama anything!!!  AND, we certainly don't trust Boehner and McConnell to do the right thing.  Unfortunately we must  block virtually everything that comes through that is remotely questionable.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on June 23, 2015, 02:14:34 PM
I wrote him we needed a cooling off.  That was another was of saying an 18 month cooling off.   :scared:

Clever Democrats seized the church shooting to cover their actions.
Title: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: Unedited on June 24, 2015, 08:57:03 AM
Tavis Smiley accused Ted of being "distasteful" after the Charleston shootings.  See how Ted knocks that softball out of the park!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCGRkQm9Xk

Your etiquette sucks! You should consider asking before promoting your site.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: quiller on June 24, 2015, 08:58:47 AM
Quote from: Unedited on June 24, 2015, 08:57:03 AM
Tavis Smiley accused Ted of being "distasteful" after the Charleston shootings.  See how Ted knocks that softball out of the park!!!

 

Self-publicize much?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
Quote from: Unedited on June 24, 2015, 08:57:03 AM
Tavis Smiley accused Ted of being "distasteful" after the Charleston shootings.  See how Ted knocks that softball out of the park!!!



We all know Smiley is left of left and Cruz knows that as well. He was totally prepared for another shallow lib accusation. This is why the left is very concerned abut Cruz.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: kroz on June 24, 2015, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
We all know Smiley is left of left and Cruz knows that as well. He was totally prepared for another shallow lib accusation. This is why the left is very concerned abut Cruz.

He missed (or passed) on an opportunity to nail Obama's divisive response to the massacre. 

Cruz is always wise in his responses.  He also uses dignity and class in his responses to "gotcha" questions.
Title: Where's my thread?
Post by: Bluetick on June 24, 2015, 11:10:07 AM
I could swear I started a thread on the flag imbroglio this morning. It seems to have vanished
faster than fast food at a hippie party.
Title: Re: Where's my thread?
Post by: Solar on June 24, 2015, 11:19:52 AM
Look here?
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/news-board/

If a thread disappears, always search other forums, sometimes when the same topic is hot and too many threads become redundant, they all get moved to keep Poli open for other stories.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 24, 2015, 01:42:17 PM
Ted Cruz speaks at the Heritage Foundation and likens Washington to a Cartel that conspires against Americans.....


Washington lawmakers had installed a system of centralized planning he likened to the Soviet Union, where "politicians picked the winners and losers" in the business world, "And the losers are the American people."

"It's the same as taxation without representation," reflected Cruz, because "our representatives aren't representing us, they represent giant corporations and lobbyists."

And he didn't spare Republicans from blame. In fact, he especially blamed his own party's brass, wondering, "Why is it our leaders always side with Democrats and big business and throw overboard the conservatives who elected them?"

"When the most vulnerable are hurting, Washington jumps into action, but Washington is looking for solutions for Washington," not ordinary Americans, claimed Cruz.

The political class will hurt Americans in order to help big business, he bluntly stated.



Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/ted-cruz-unleashed-washington-cartel-conspires-against-americans/#Gk2BJREtFLkQ67Re.99
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 24, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
Tavis Smiley is a lightweight.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Takes Down Tavis Smiley
Post by: carlb on June 24, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
I'm always amazed by his class and dignity. That's why he's a STATESMAN.

Can't wait to see him in a real debate with Hillary.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Can someone point me in the right direction for an article concerning Ted Cruz and his Social Security privatization plan. Very interested in learning his view on this!

I've looked some, but I can't find anything with much substance
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 25, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Can someone point me in the right direction for an article concerning Ted Cruz and his Social Security privatization plan. Very interested in learning his view on this!

I've looked some, but I can't find anything with much substance

http://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/Ted_Cruz_Social_Security.htm

This is not extremely detailed but it would require heavy input by Congress.  Remember!  POTUS does not make laws.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: kroz on June 25, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
http://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/Ted_Cruz_Social_Security.htm

This is not extremely detailed but it would require heavy input by Congress.  Remember!  POTUS does not make laws.

Appreciate this! My thoughts on SS exactly!
Is it a well-liked proposal? Or are groups like AARP up in arms?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on June 25, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 09:35:46 AM
Appreciate this! My thoughts on SS exactly!
Is it a well-liked proposal? Or are groups like AARP up in arms?

Who cares what AARP thinks. They are nothing more than an arm for the democrat party.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on June 25, 2015, 10:08:18 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 25, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Who cares what AARP thinks. They are nothing more than an arm for the democrat party.

VERY TRUE !!!!

Who cares about what anyone else thinks about an issue? 

Does it pass the test of our critical thinking?!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 10:10:32 AM
Quote from: kroz on June 25, 2015, 10:08:18 AM
VERY TRUE !!!!

Who cares about what anyone else thinks about an issue? 

Does it pass the test of our critical thinking?!!

Just asking, I also enjoy seeing who opposes a certain issue and why. It's for my own personal interest, not for changing my personal opinion. Thanks for your concern!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on June 25, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
Quote from: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 10:10:32 AM
Just asking, I also enjoy seeing who opposes a certain issue and why. It's for my own personal interest, not for changing my personal opinion. Thanks for your concern!
Think of it like the ethanol issue, where we, the taxpayer, subsidizes corn ethanol for big ag cronyism.
Ethanol is more polluting than not using it, corrodes engines and it's components.
But the people making money off of it are backing pols that keep this farse alive.

Point is, just because big names are behind an issue, is even more reason to question it, especially AARP, a know socialist org.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on June 25, 2015, 10:33:22 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 25, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Who cares what AARP thinks. They are nothing more than an arm for the democrat party.

AARP has been selling us old people down the drain for years.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 25, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
Think of it like the ethanol issue, where we, the taxpayer, subsidizes corn ethanol for big ag cronyism.
Ethanol is more polluting than not using it, corrodes engines and it's components.
But the people making money off of it are backing pols that keep this farse alive.

Point is, just because big names are behind an issue, is even more reason to question it, especially AARP, a know socialist org.

I can't believe ethanol is still even a thing. (Actually I can, but it shouldn't be). So many studies have shown it has no benefits.

I agree. I just like to know who is for and who is against it. Stems from my polysci education I guess. Doesn't affect my views one way or the other.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on June 25, 2015, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 10:55:20 AM
I can't believe ethanol is still even a thing. (Actually I can, but it shouldn't be). So many studies have shown it has no benefits.

I agree. I just like to know who is for and who is against it. Stems from my polysci education I guess. Doesn't affect my views one way or the other.
Ted Cruz. It's time to end crony capitalism.
Title: WOW...Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision
Post by: Bronx on June 25, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
Listen up folks we have a presidential candidate in Ted Cruz who is ready to lead the United States of America in the direction of our Constitutional laws.

He is a man among boys in the policial field of candidates. He sure let them have it.

Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGeXkUeroKw&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: WOW...Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision
Post by: quiller on June 25, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Bronx on June 25, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
Listen up folks we have a presidential candidate in Ted Cruz who is ready to lead the United States of America in the direction of our Constitutional laws.

He is a man among boys in the policial field of candidates. He sure let them have it.

Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGeXkUeroKw&feature=youtu.be

This has a strong ending for younger voters, showing how catastrophic this decision will be on repayment of student loans on top of unaffordable health care doled out by doctors you are assigned to. At roughly the 8:00 mark onward, it's a generational message Cruz hammers home with uncommon verbal skill. It's also the unvarnished truth.

The Roberts Turncoat Court has committed a brazen act of judicial activism far exceeding its Constitutional or statutory powers. The RINO turncoats joining the Democrat treasonists and supported these nine unelected arbiters of law to the point they REWROTE the law...twice.

He makes the case. It's a dangerous shift and one reasonable people on all sides would prefer gets stopped, and stopped NOW. We have got a serious crisis in our government. If words have no meaning and all laws can be deemed retroactive or the reverse of what they say, then why are we saying we're free?

It ends with his vow that this abomination will be repealed in its entirety, in 2017. He openly stakes his career on this goal.

Title: Re: WOW...Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision
Post by: khnicole on June 25, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
The term "Robed Houdinis" is a better description of SCOTUS than "justices". They aren't representing justice at all.

"Unelected judges have once again become legislators"  :popcorn:

Bravo Cruz, Bravo!
Title: Re: WOW...Sen. Ted Cruz Gives Floor Speech on King v. Burwell SCOTUS Decision
Post by: red_dirt on June 25, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
Good time to send in another check.  Keep this horse in the race.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Where's my thread?
Post by: daidalos on June 25, 2015, 09:05:02 PM
WHAT! You mean if I start a thread, it might be in the wrong forum, or worse yet, be a MSM story designed to distract we the people from paying attention to what is really important.


Such as for example, the preservation of our republic and constitutional law, and freedoms, as opposed to who Bruce Jenner thinks he is or isn't now days?

Naw, say it cant be! J/K

That said, if you started a thread, Tick, and you can't find it. Up at the top of the page tryin using the "show new replies tyo your posts" link, or the "show unread posts since last visit" links.

Or if push comes to shove, go into the "profile" option/tab up top, and then under "profile information" select the option to "show posts" below your avatar picture.

One of those three or four options, is usually enough to find where ya went/got sent too.


AT least it's worked for this old hat that is.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 06, 2015, 07:51:38 AM
Ted Cruz still holds a strong lead with the base!

In June, 55,000 people voted in the Breitbart Primary, and they preferred Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker to win the GOP's 2016 presidential nomination.

In June's inaugural Breitbart Primary poll, Cruz finished first nationally (33%)–and in each of the first three nominating states–with Walker (23%), who has yet to declare his candidacy, right on his heels. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) finished in third with 10%, followed by Dr. Ben Carson (7%), former Texas Governor Rick Perry (5%), businessman Donald Trump (4%), former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina (4%), and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) (4%).


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/06/ted-cruz-scott-walker-battle-to-top-breitbart-primary/

Remember, it is the grassroots base that turn out the voters!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 06, 2015, 08:24:38 AM
South Carolina is the only early State that matters... and Graham seems to be doing Cruz's campaign a favor by siphoning-away that ever nebulous bloc of Bush-supporters.

Here's the last poll, from 6/25...  so there should be newer one this week:

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/2015/06/25/from-opinion-savvy-south-carolina-gop-presidential-primary-poll-shows-bush-ahead/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
I really want to see Cruz come up in the polls.  I dread another Bush or Clinton as POTUS.  We need a fresh face.  Bush would be like having another liberal.  He's going to ignore the border too.  Probably hand out the welcome sign and ignore the fact that women and children are being raped to escape the corruption in Mexico.  We seem to be importing the Mexican Mafia.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 08, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
I really want to see Cruz come up in the polls.  I dread another Bush or Clinton as POTUS.  We need a fresh face.  Bush would be like having another liberal.  He's going to ignore the border too.  Probably hand out the welcome sign and ignore the fact that women and children are being raped to escape the corruption in Mexico.  We seem to be importing the Mexican Mafia.

Don't trust polls, they will show what someone would like them to show.  Most polls are controlled by the MSM. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:20:28 PM
Yes, I hate the polls.  And I hate how FOX news selects a winner before they even get to the primaries.  Like FOX but have a feeling they are going to sell Bush.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 08, 2015, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:20:28 PM
Yes, I hate the polls.  And I hate how FOX news selects a winner before they even get to the primaries.  Like FOX but have a feeling they are going to sell Bush.

You must remember FOX news is owned by a liberal.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:30:52 PM
Didn't know that but it makes sense. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 08, 2015, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:30:52 PM
Didn't know that but it makes sense.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 09, 2015, 04:57:36 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
I really want to see Cruz come up in the polls.  I dread another Bush or Clinton as POTUS.  We need a fresh face.  Bush would be like having another liberal.  He's going to ignore the border too. Probably hand out the welcome sign and ignore the fact that women and children are being raped to escape the corruption in Mexico.  We seem to be importing the Mexican Mafia.

You can bet that Jeb would definitely hang out the "Welcome" sign if elected.

There is a faction at Fox that pushes for Jeb and another faction that do not.  It is probably just for consumer consumption for a short period of time because many of us write to them regularly expressing our opinions!  I consider the media to be the fourth wing of government so I lobby them just as often as my reps.

During the last election I even got an email dialogue going with Karl Rove..... because I was angry with him.  We exchanged about six or seven emails!

My point is that these people actually get your emails when you write to them through the Fox News website.... and I ended up with Karl's personal account address!

BTW, welcome to this forum.  We are glad to have you!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 04:59:10 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 08, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
I really want to see Cruz come up in the polls.  I dread another Bush or Clinton as POTUS.  We need a fresh face.  Bush would be like having another liberal.  He's going to ignore the border too.  Probably hand out the welcome sign and ignore the fact that women and children are being raped to escape the corruption in Mexico.  We seem to be importing the Mexican Mafia.

Not to worry about Bush. He will not be the nominee. His quote about "respecting" conservatives killed him.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 09, 2015, 05:13:37 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 04:59:10 AM
Not to worry about Bush. He will not be the nominee. His quote about "respecting" conservatives killed him.

.... if we don't split the conservative vote too many ways!! 

We must continue to beat the drum for Cruz and help keep folks from falling into pitfalls along the way!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 05:51:41 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 09, 2015, 05:13:37 AM
.... if we don't split the conservative vote too many ways!! 

We must continue to beat the drum for Cruz and help keep folks from falling into pitfalls along the way!

Not to worry about splitting the conservative vote either. In my view there are only two of the sixteen that are conservative, Cruz and Walker. True conservatives recognize this. Let the RINO's fight over the rest until we have a nominee.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2015, 05:57:05 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 05:51:41 AM
Not to worry about splitting the conservative vote either. In my view there are only two of the sixteen that are conservative, Cruz and Walker. True conservatives recognize this. Let the RINO's fight over the rest until we have a nominee.
Exactly! It's why I ignore all the polls till after the election, they are all paid ads, nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 09, 2015, 07:34:21 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 05:51:41 AM
Not to worry about splitting the conservative vote either. In my view there are only two of the sixteen that are conservative, Cruz and Walker. True conservatives recognize this. Let the RINO's fight over the rest until we have a nominee.

But I hear "true conservatives" I know (and live with!) getting sucked into the Trump trap!   :ohmy:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 09, 2015, 07:34:21 AM
But I hear "true conservatives" I know (and live with!) getting sucked into the Trump trap!   :ohmy:

If they are true conservatives they will see the light. It's all immigration with Trump now. When his other views are known things will change.
Title: !
Post by: kroz on July 09, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 09:14:47 AM
If they are true conservatives they will see the light. It's all immigration with Trump now. When his other views are known things will change.

I hope you are right!

Once a run away wagon gets going...... it can be difficult to stop!   :ohmy:
Title: Re: !
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 09, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
I hope you are right!

Once a run away wagon gets going...... it can be difficult to stop!   :ohmy:

He is the flavor of the week.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 09, 2015, 07:57:18 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 09, 2015, 04:57:36 AM
You can bet that Jeb would definitely hang out the "Welcome" sign if elected.

There is a faction at Fox that pushes for Jeb and another faction that do not.  It is probably just for consumer consumption for a short period of time because many of us write to them regularly expressing our opinions!  I consider the media to be the fourth wing of government so I lobby them just as often as my reps.

During the last election I even got an email dialogue going with Karl Rove..... because I was angry with him.  We exchanged about six or seven emails!

My point is that these people actually get your emails when you write to them through the Fox News website.... and I ended up with Karl's personal account address!

BTW, welcome to this forum.  We are glad to have you!


Thank You, happy to join the forum
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 09, 2015, 08:01:38 PM
Oh, was going to say also that I plan on shooting some emails to FOX News also if they don't give all the candidates equal opportunity to share their views with the public. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 10, 2015, 04:54:43 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 09, 2015, 08:01:38 PM
Oh, was going to say also that I plan on shooting some emails to FOX News also if they don't give all the candidates equal opportunity to share their views with the public.

Good!!  It is nice to have another voice actively championing our cause.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 10, 2015, 05:30:09 AM
Yesterday I heard Mark Levin on the radio talking about this...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/09/despite-stellar-sales-new-york-times-keeps-ted-cruzs-new-book-off-bestseller-list-heres-the-excuse-given/

Even though Ted Cruz's book sold enough copies during the first week to be 3rd on the NYT Bestseller list, they refused to acknowledge it.  All of their claimed excuses for ignoring it are proven incompatible with their previous practices of picking the books for their list.

Truth be known..... they are terrified of people actually reading Ted's book.   They want to keep it a national secret!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 10, 2015, 05:58:33 PM

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
's (R-TX) presidential campaign is calling on the New York Times to issue a formal apology or release the evidence behind its decision to keep his new book, A Time for Truth, off its bestseller list for what the Times alleges are "strategic bulk purchase," a practice the Times says violates its methodology for determining "authentic" bestsellers.

"We call on the Times, release your so-called 'evidence.' Demonstrate that your charge isn't simply a naked fabrication, designed to cover up your own partisan agenda," said Cruz campaign spokesperson Rick Tyler on Friday. "And, if you cannot do so, then issue a public apology to Senator Cruz and Harper Collins editor Adam Bellow for making false charges against them."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/10/cruz-campaign-to-nyt-apologize-or-show-your-evidence/

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 10, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
's (R-TX) presidential campaign is calling on the New York Times to issue a formal apology or release the evidence behind its decision to keep his new book, A Time for Truth, off its bestseller list for what the Times alleges are "strategic bulk purchase," a practice the Times says violates its methodology for determining "authentic" bestsellers.

"We call on the Times, release your so-called 'evidence.' Demonstrate that your charge isn't simply a naked fabrication, designed to cover up your own partisan agenda," said Cruz campaign spokesperson Rick Tyler on Friday. "And, if you cannot do so, then issue a public apology to Senator Cruz and Harper Collins editor Adam Bellow for making false charges against them."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/10/cruz-campaign-to-nyt-apologize-or-show-your-evidence/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good for Cruz! The Times doesn't even realize they just created the years best seller, simply by banning it :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 10, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Both the Tea Party and the Official GOP want nothing to do with Trump. I suspect the Tea Party because he is taking away from their individual pets, though the excuse is that Trump is "too liberal." 

But Trump's message resonates with middle America. By normal logic, then, we would conclude that the Tea Party is somewhat at odds with middle America. We already knew that, I think.

I put Trump in a category with Jan Brewer, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, or to a lesser extent, Mayor Rudy, the main difference being that Donald is not on the public payroll, as he is quick to point out. So, he can say things. He's not worried about offending the illegal coalition.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 10, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Both the Tea Party and the Official GOP want nothing to do with Trump. I suspect the Tea Party because he is taking away from their individual pets, though the excuse is that Trump is "too liberal." 

But Trump's message resonates with middle America. By normal logic, then, we would conclude that the Tea Party is somewhat at odds with middle America. We already knew that, I think.

I put Trump in a category with Jan Brewer, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, or to a lesser extent, Mayor Rudy, the main difference being that Donald is not on the public payroll, as he is quick to point out. So, he can say things. He's not worried about offending the illegal coalition.
TEA doesn't hate or even dislike Tre\ump, we embrace his message, we just won't vote for a RINO, it really is that simple.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 10, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
I guess I don't really understand, then, what constitutes a RINO. My impression is that a RINO is a good party member who flocks with the other birds not so  much out of principle or philosophy but, rather, because that is the good career move. I really think one of Trump's problems is that he was forced to do business with New York politicians for so long as a younger man. He might have been left with a trace or PTSD. That may explain why so many workers like him. We spend our careers putting up with jerks who have power.

So few are able to articulate the conservative position. Obviously Goldwater could. So could President Reagan.  The press could throw nothing at President Reagan he could not respond to, without measuring the consequences or worrying about if it was going to offend anyone. Gingrich understood what makes a politician a conservative. So did Thatcher and GHW Bush.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on July 11, 2015, 01:29:04 AM
Well the NYT is trying to sabotage his book.  I think he is doing better than is being reported.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 11, 2015, 05:35:54 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 11, 2015, 01:29:04 AM
Well the NYT is trying to sabotage his book.  I think he is doing better than is being reported.

I would definitely agree with that.  The media is already picking winners and losers out there on the trail....




Quote from: red_dirt on July 10, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
I guess I don't really understand, then, what constitutes a RINO. My impression is that a RINO is a good party member who flocks with the other birds not so  much out of principle or philosophy but, rather, because that is the good career move. I really think one of Trump's problems is that he was forced to do business with New York politicians for so long as a younger man. He might have been left with a trace or PTSD. That may explain why so many workers like him. We spend our careers putting up with jerks who have power.

So few are able to articulate the conservative position. Obviously Goldwater could. So could President Reagan.  The press could throw nothing at President Reagan he could not respond to, without measuring the consequences or worrying about if it was going to offend anyone. Gingrich understood what makes a politician a conservative. So did Thatcher and GHW Bush.



Red, the big difference with Trump is the shear number of flip flops of the issues AND his praise and support of so many democrats.  Until he became a candidate himself, he did not seem to recognize the political differences.  He supported whomever he thought would do something for HIM.... not the Country.  It is only recently that he has been howling about our National economy....... yet he has been a part of the problem all along.  It's like he thinks we don't have a memory. (much like Hillary thinks we won't remember her misdeeds)

It is true that Trump has hit on a hot button issue with most of America with his "illegal immigrant" outrage.  THAT is what we want to hear from a candidate.  That has captured the attention of many, many voters!!

But guess what?  Trump probably hires as many of those illegals as anyone in America!!  He is a hypocrite!

If elected..... he will do what helps Trump Enterprises....... and then we might get a few crumbs.

Even though Trump has never been a politician, he knows how to lie with the best of them!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 12, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 11, 2015, 05:35:54 AM
I would definitely agree with that.  The media is already picking winners and losers out there on the trail....




Red, the big difference with Trump is the shear number of flip flops of the issues AND his praise and support of so many democrats.  Until he became a candidate himself, he did not seem to recognize the political differences.  He supported whomever he thought would do something for HIM.... not the Country.  It is only recently that he has been howling about our National economy....... yet he has been a part of the problem all along.  It's like he thinks we don't have a memory. (much like Hillary thinks we won't remember her misdeeds)

It is true that Trump has hit on a hot button issue with most of America with his "illegal immigrant" outrage.  THAT is what we want to hear from a candidate.  That has captured the attention of many, many voters!!

But guess what?  Trump probably hires as many of those illegals as anyone in America!!  He is a hypocrite!

If elected..... he will do what helps Trump Enterprises....... and then we might get a few crumbs.

Even though Trump has never been a politician, he knows how to lie with the best of them!

I am leery of Trump.  Don't really go for the big business guys.  Didn't like Mitt Romney either.  I like Cruz and hope that he comes through with a plan to tackle illegal immigration that resonates with fed up Americans.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 13, 2015, 04:56:46 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 12, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
I am leery of Trump.  Don't really go for the big business guys.  Didn't like Mitt Romney either.  I like Cruz and hope that he comes through with a plan to tackle illegal immigration that resonates with fed up Americans.

I am with you completely CD!   And I expect Ted to capture the energy of Trump's wake when he capsizes!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 13, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 13, 2015, 04:56:46 AM
I am with you completely CD!   And I expect Ted to capture the energy of Trump's wake when he capsizes!

Trump is a blowhard, but he is serving his purpose.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kathy s. on July 13, 2015, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: walkstall on July 08, 2015, 11:24:00 PM
You must remember FOX news is owned by a liberal.

  I didn't know that, but it sure explains alot.     :mad:

Fox is trying to shove Bush down our throats just like it did Romney. Who owns Fox now?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 13, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
Quote from: kathy s. on July 13, 2015, 09:26:24 PM
  I didn't know that, but it sure explains alot.     :mad:

Fox is trying to shove Bush down our throats just like it did Romney. Who owns Fox now?

Rupert Murdoch is usually deemed the owner of Fox News as I remember.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kathy s. on July 13, 2015, 10:16:57 PM
Thanks for the info.  I spent this morning calling L. Graham's office about his remarks re Trump, Rubio's office for his supporting an increase in H1-B visas, and Boehner's office about his lack of spine.  :mad:   I don't like Trump at all, but by God he isn't afraid to tell it like it is. RNC is running scared b/c it knows he doesn't need it's money or support. Good.
  And I am tickled that Cruz supports Trump's stand on illegal immigration and says so. The others are too damn scared. What I find amusing is their condemnation of   Trump, yet folks like Graham have been around a long time and done little to help the middle class.  I believe Cruz will do all he can to get the economy going again and as of right now, I'm voting for him.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Mountainshield on July 13, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: walkstall on July 13, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
Rupert Murdoch is usually deemed the owner of Fox News as I remember.

And he is genuinely interested in liberty and free market, he fought against monopolies. I think it's just he likes being well loved in his elitist super rich leftist cliques more than liberty and yes today even more so than running a successful business.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 14, 2015, 04:56:20 AM
Quote from: Mountainshield on July 13, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
And he is genuinely interested in liberty and free market, he fought against monopolies. I think it's just he likes being well loved in his elitist super rich leftist cliques more than liberty and yes today even more so than running a successful business.

I think Murdoch recently retired and handed over the reins to his son!  But Fox News is actually controlled by Roger Ailes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/charleswarner/2015/06/11/rupert-murdoch-retires-so-what-will-change/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2015, 05:44:49 AM
Quote from: kathy s. on July 13, 2015, 09:26:24 PM
  I didn't know that, but it sure explains alot.     :mad:

Fox is trying to shove Bush down our throats just like it did Romney. Who owns Fox now?
Last I heard, Rupert stepped aside to give lead to his sons, but came back just the other day.
Looks like the stew wasn't ready to simmer quite yet.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 14, 2015, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 12, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
I am leery of Trump. Don't really go for the big business guys. Didn't like Mitt Romney either.  I like Cruz and hope that he comes through with a plan to tackle illegal immigration that resonates with fed up Americans.

That is exactly how Washington wants you to think. Wait, let me put in another way, exactly how Washington has conditioned Americans to think.



Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2015, 06:15:53 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 12, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
I am leery of Trump.  Don't really go for the big business guys.  Didn't like Mitt Romney either.  I like Cruz and hope that he comes through with a plan to tackle illegal immigration that resonates with fed up Americans.

And rightly so, seeing how this is his third shot at running for office, though his first officially (in writing).
It's hard to take someone seriously when their track record exposes a personal agenda behind his every move.
Anyone can say what they think the people want to hear, but the Trumps of the world are known for saying the right thing at the right time, and unless one has a contract in writing, you'd be smart to ignore everything they say.

One thing politicians and business people share, is an understanding that your words carry no legal weight, only your actions, and if what he says isn't in a signed agreement, he has the right to change his mind.
His business history will verify Trump is a deal breaker if you didn't have it in writing, too damn bad.
The country would be wise to recognize the law for what it is, and Trump for who he is, a man that would never make a deal without it in writing first.
His words are just that, hollow without any backing whatsoever.

If I hadn't done so yet, let me welcome you to the forum. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 14, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2015, 06:15:53 AM
Anyone can say what they think the people want to hear, but the Trumps of the world are known for saying the right thing at the right time, and unless one has a contract in writing, you'd be smart to ignore everything they say.

Unlike Washington officials who can normally be trusted. Is that it?

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 12, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
I am leery of Trump.  Don't really go for the big business guys.  Didn't like Mitt Romney either.

Gosh, that's a shame, Chosen Daughter. I'm sure Carly Fiorina would have appreciated your support.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 14, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
Unlike Washington officials who can normally be trusted. Is that it?

Gosh, that's a shame, Chosen Daughter. I'm sure Carly Fiorina would have appreciated your support.
Trump has a horrible track record in truth, Cruz on the other hand has all kinds of credits under his belt.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on July 14, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
illegal immigration:

Whoever gets elected is not going to kick out the illegals that are living here. Our state loves them and have required our teachers to learn Spanish or risk job loss due to not being accepted for job openings.
They might shore up the border fence though.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
Quote from: darroll on July 14, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
illegal immigration:

Whoever gets elected is not going to kick out the illegals that are living here. Our state loves them and have required our teachers to learn Spanish or risk job loss due to not being accepted for job openings.
They might shore up the border fence though.
They'll leave on their own once we cut their funding.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 14, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
They'll leave on their own once we cut their funding.

I believe that Oklahoma and Alabama have already done that.  There was a mass exodus from both States!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 14, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 14, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
I believe that Oklahoma and Alabama have already done that.  There was a mass exodus from both States!

Link(s) please
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 15, 2015, 04:16:48 AM
Quote from: walkstall on July 14, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Link(s) please

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/alabama-law-drives-out-illegal-immigrants-but-also-has-unexpected-consequences/2012/06/17/gJQA3Rm0jV_story.html

http://www.theacru.org/oklahoma_law_on_illegal_immigr/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 15, 2015, 04:40:43 AM
Jeb Bush's fundraising haul was impressive. Ted Cruz's was more important.


Jeb Bush's fundraising totals for the first half of 2015 were eye-popping: $114 million raised ($103 million of which came through his Right to Rise super PAC) with a stunning $98 million in the bank.

But, as amazing as Bush's haul was, it's Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's fundraising totals that stood out to me as the most important money number from the June reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Cruz raised $14 million through his campaign committee and another $37 million through a constellation of super PACs set up to aid his campaign. That total of $51 million raised put him second behind Bush in total fundraising over the first six months of the year -- ahead of the likes of Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and Scott Walker.

.......

Take Cruz's demonstrated fundraising ability over the first half of 2015 and couple it with his status as the most conservative candidate in the race and you have a potent mix that should scare the hell out of any of the establishment candidates with designs on the party nomination.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/14/jeb-bushs-fundraising-haul-was-impressive-ted-cruzs-was-more-important/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 15, 2015, 06:18:47 AM
The Bush organization, or fill in the name of whoever it is the regular leadership has anointed, has an established fund raising circuit  that makes it much easier for the endorsed candidate to raise money. That creates a problem for voters who want a change in leadership style and philosophy, doesn't it? Both parties operate the same way, do they not? 

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 15, 2015, 07:40:06 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 15, 2015, 06:18:47 AM
The Bush organization, or fill in the name of whoever it is the regular leadership has anointed, has an established fund raising circuit  that makes it much easier for the endorsed candidate to raise money. That creates a problem for voters who want a change in leadership style and philosophy, doesn't it? Both parties operate the same way, do they not?

They do!

That is why it is so critical that we unite behind the best conservative on the stage.  Cruz IS that candidate.

Money cannot buy the WH if there is a strong enough united front at the grassroots level.  WE are the ones that get out the votes!

Trump is making it extremely difficult for us when he continues to suck the oxygen out of the room.  Yes, he IS saying the right things...... BUT, are you SURE you can trust him?

Has the Nation not been hoodwinked before by smart talking candidates?

Does his historical record support his rhetoric?

We should not fall into the trap of thinking he is the ONLY candidate that can beat Jeb.  Nor, should we get sucked into the hoopla over Trump being self supporting.  Think about THAT for a minute.  He says he would be beholden to none.  Truth is that he is beholden to "Trump Enterprises".  If he buys it, he owns it.

With Cruz, his money is largely coming from folks like you and I...... small donations by millions of folks!

Does that not speak volumes for Cruz's connection with the base voters?  Does that not tell us that he is capable of winning this thing if we can keep our heads out of the ground or not get caught up in the wave of hysteria?

If there ever was a critical time in history for us to maintain our somber analysis of a situation, this is it !!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2015, 08:32:02 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 15, 2015, 07:40:06 AM
They do!

That is why it is so critical that we unite behind the best conservative on the stage.  Cruz IS that candidate.

Money cannot buy the WH if there is a strong enough united front at the grassroots level.  WE are the ones that get out the votes!

Trump is making it extremely difficult for us when he continues to suck the oxygen out of the room.  Yes, he IS saying the right things...... BUT, are you SURE you can trust him?

Has the Nation not been hoodwinked before by smart talking candidates?

Does his historical record support his rhetoric?

We should not fall into the trap of thinking he is the ONLY candidate that can beat Jeb.  Nor, should we get sucked into the hoopla over Trump being self supporting.  Think about THAT for a minute.  He says he would be beholden to none.  Truth is that he is beholden to "Trump Enterprises".  If he buys it, he owns it.

With Cruz, his money is largely coming from folks like you and I...... small donations by millions of folks!

Does that not speak volumes for Cruz's connection with the base voters?  Does that not tell us that he is capable of winning this thing if we can keep our heads out of the ground or not get caught up in the wave of hysteria?

If there ever was a critical time in history for us to maintain our somber analysis of a situation, this is it !!!!
Yep, Reagan beat the Establishment machine when they were pushing Bush.
The people spoke and history was made and can easily be repeated again.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 15, 2015, 11:57:47 AM
Cruz/ Trump Summit in Manhattan!

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
will meet with fellow GOP contender Donald Trump on Wednesday at Trump's campaign headquarters, New York City's Trump Tower.

Cruz, the first Republican to declare a run for the presidency, will step onto Trump's territory in Manhattan and is visiting Trump, not the other way around. As the Washington Post notes, the two candidates are on friendly terms and both take a strong, popular stand against mass illegal immigration.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/15/trumpcruz-summit-in-manhattan/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 15, 2015, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 15, 2015, 11:57:47 AM
... and both take a strong, popular stand against mass illegal immigration.[/b]


And the obvious question is, WHY DONT THEY ALL?!!?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 15, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: carlb on July 15, 2015, 05:37:53 PM
And the obvious question is, WHY DONT THEY ALL?!!?


Because they are not honest brokers of truth!!!!!!

We are reduced to two candidates.  Which do you choose?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 15, 2015, 05:56:21 PM
Trump's not one of them. They all have their issues.

MY issues are illegal immigration and pro-life.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 15, 2015, 06:01:00 PM
Here's who Trump really is:
http://louderwithcrowder.com/vetting-donald-trump-what-you-need-to-know/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2015, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: carlb on July 15, 2015, 06:01:00 PM
Here's who Trump really is:
http://louderwithcrowder.com/vetting-donald-trump-what-you-need-to-know/
Maybe we should post a few of these, but there will always be people in love with the theatrics, the truth is only  distraction.
Ah Hell, this one should wake a few up, maybe? :biggrin:

In 2008, Donald Trump supported Obama's campaign. This one is pretty self-explanatory, but here's a quote from 2011 for good measure. "I was his biggest cheerleader," "If you go back three years, I'm saying, 'Do a great job.' ... " "I thought he was a positive person, always,"
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 15, 2015, 07:47:30 PM
Great interview on The Kelly File about an hour ago.  Cruz spoke about the Americans jailed in Iran, the Planned Parenthood massacre, and his meeting today with Trump.

From what I got out of it, he and Trump sound like they're teaming-up with parallel strategies of not bad-mouthing each-other. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2015, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 15, 2015, 07:47:30 PM
Great interview on The Kelly File about an hour ago.  Cruz spoke about the Americans jailed in Iran, the Planned Parenthood massacre, and his meeting today with Trump.

From what I got out of it, he and Trump sound like they're teaming-up with parallel strategies of not bad-mouthing each-other.
For a young guy, Cruz appears to have the wisdom of an old man. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on July 15, 2015, 08:19:35 PM
One of the things about Cruz is he is a policy wonk. That was what was great about Paul Ryan in 2012. The man knows his stuff. He knows the issues the numbers etc. He would have destroyed Biden in the debate if Biden hadn't shown up doing magic tricks and juggling chainsaws to avoid talking the issues. Unfortunately Ryan is a RINO. Cruz isn't a RINO  knows his stuff plus the Constitution inside and out.

He will eviscerate Hilary in the debates.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 16, 2015, 03:49:29 AM
Thanks for that "Louder with Crowder" link, carib.  I am sending it to my mailing list.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 16, 2015, 04:24:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2015, 06:30:27 PM
Maybe we should post a few of these, but there will always be people in love with the theatrics, the truth is only  distraction.
Ah Hell, this one should wake a few up, maybe? :biggrin:

In 2008, Donald Trump supported Obama's campaign. This one is pretty self-explanatory, but here's a quote from 2011 for good measure. "I was his biggest cheerleader," "If you go back three years, I'm saying, 'Do a great job.' ... " "I thought he was a positive person, always,"

I don't know how a candidate could be trusted today when he didn't understand WHAT Obama was back in 2007. I knew. Why wouldn't Trump. The man I vote for should be AT LEAST as smart as I am. Trump doesn't measure up.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 16, 2015, 04:44:50 AM
Quote from: carlb on July 16, 2015, 04:24:19 AM
I don't know how a candidate could be trusted today when he didn't understand WHAT Obama was back in 2007. I knew. Why wouldn't Trump. The man I vote for should be AT LEAST as smart as I am. Trump doesn't measure up.

My sentiment exactly!!

Trump is no dummy.... so you gotta believe he was willfully ignorant of Obama's history and agenda.

But Trump ALWAYS does what he believes is best for Trump Enterprises!  At best, it was negligence on the part of Trump to believe that Obama would be  good for this Country.  What was Trump smoking???   :ohmy:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 16, 2015, 05:51:37 AM
I, on the other hand, think the Republicans are doing just the right thing with the mega primary field. We can look to our right and get a picture of what government could look like in a year or so. Or, we can look left, see Hillary, Warren, Sanders, and O'Malley. Take your pick.

My nagging concern is that the last large field I recall was when Carter was put in. At the time, analysts claimed Carter had the nomination all along. It was all a big show. And who allowed the Shah to fail and the Ayatollah to take power?  Jimmy Carter.  Again, Bill Clinton emerged from a pack.

The people who know favor Ted Cruz.  Trump strikes a chord with the people. They love him. I've heard dozens of arguments against Donald Trump, none of them substantial.  What, he had great hopes for Obama? That's one of the lamest ones yet. That feeds right into the leftist argument that the Tea Party unfairly judged Obama from the start.  Maybe that's true, who knows?

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2015, 06:06:09 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 16, 2015, 05:51:37 AM
I, on the other hand, think the Republicans are doing just the right thing with the mega primary field. We can look to our right and get a picture of what government could look like in a year or so. Or, we can look left, see Hillary, Warren, Sanders, and O'Malley. Take your pick.

My nagging concern is that the last large field I recall was when Carter was put in. At the time, analysts claimed Carter had the nomination all along. It was all a big show. And who allowed the Shah to fail and the Ayatollah to take power?  Jimmy Carter.  Again, Bill Clinton emerged from a pack.

The people who know favor Ted Cruz.  Trump strikes a chord with the people. They love him. I've heard dozens of arguments against Donald Trump, none of them substantial.  What, he had great hopes for Obama? That's one of the lamest ones yet. That feeds right into the leftist argument that the Tea Party unfairly judged Obama from the start.  Maybe that's true, who knows?
Red, how many times have you changed party affiliation in the last 30 years, changed your values or backed a Marxist for office?
I'm willing to bet you're like the rest of us, your values are solid, you'd never waver on them and the only way you'd change party's, is if they left you.

Well, Trump did, and that doesn't bother you in the least?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 16, 2015, 06:17:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2015, 06:06:09 AM
Red, how many times have you changed party affiliation in the last 30 years, changed your values or backed a Marxist for office?
I'm willing to bet you're like the rest of us, your values are solid, you'd never waver on them and the only way you'd change party's, is if they left you.
Well, Trump did, and that doesn't bother you in the least?

Trump supporters are going to continue get beat up on. I saw the Rev. Wright tapes, that was enough for me. So I just kept my mouth shut until Obama announced he was going to build a mosque a ground zero. My point is, everyone deserves a chance until proven otherwise. Obama proved otherwise. In addition, I have the luxury in business to pick and choose my associates. Trump is really too big to be afforded that luxury. He has to deal with everybody.
I come from a NY family. I had the luxury to walk away from it. In my family, those who have not walked away from the region have  moved upstate.  So Trump, I see as someone who stayed and toughed it out. Tougher than I am, for sure. I'm listening to what he says. I'm watching him work. I think he is in there for a reason. It could very well be he is a total phoney in there to somehow enable Bush. I'd like to think otherwise.
As a Cruz supporter, it is only natural to suspect every move by the GOP is a trick aimed at defeating Cruz.  Trump and Cruz are becoming allies, as we are led.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2015, 07:23:07 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 16, 2015, 06:17:05 AM
Trump supporters are going to continue get beat up on.
And rightly so. I'll be blunt, only a fool would vote for this guy. He's a valueless troll.

Quotehe was going to build a mosque a ground zero. My point is, everyone deserves a chance until proven otherwise. Obama proved otherwise. In addition, I have the luxury in business to pick and choose my associates. Trump is really too big to be afforded that luxury. He has to deal with everybody.
I come from a NY family. I had the luxury to walk away from it. In my family, those who have not walked away from the region have  moved upstate.  So Trump, I see as someone who stayed and toughed it out. Tougher than I am, for sure.

Trump is an Internationalist, and only stays in NY because his contacts are there, from the NY stock exchange, to his several real estate holdings.
There is nothing holding him there, he wants to be there.

I'm listening to what he says. I'm watching him work. I think he is in there for a reason. It could very well be he is a total phoney in there to somehow enable Bush. I'd like to think otherwise.

And you're believing what he says, But you're not comparing it to his past.
Conservative do not change their values for political expediency, ever.
Bottomline, Trump has no value system.

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm

QuoteAs a Cruz supporter, it is only natural to suspect every move by the GOP is a trick aimed at defeating Cruz.  Trump and Cruz are becoming allies, as we are led
.

Cruz is smart, he recognizes what Trump has tapped into here, the anger of the nation over illegals flooding across the border, the same issue the GOP pandered over and in 2012, once elected, threw us under the bus.
Point is, Trump will say whatever he thinks the people want to hear, his track record proves it.
Remember when he wanted Oprah the racist on his ticket, or how he changed party affiliation 5 times since the 80s?
How many people do you know that went from Pub, to Dim and back again?
And if you did, what would you think of their value system and judgement?

Look, I appreciate what Trump is doing, but I'm a realist, I know what he's doing, I also know he is not good for the country, period.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on July 16, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2015, 07:23:07 AM
And rightly so. I'll be blunt, only a fool would vote for this guy. He's a valueless troll.

Trump is an Internationalist, and only stays in NY because his contacts are there, from the NY stock exchange, to his several real estate holdings.
There is nothing holding him there, he wants to be there.

I'm listening to what he says. I'm watching him work. I think he is in there for a reason. It could very well be he is a total phoney in there to somehow enable Bush. I'd like to think otherwise.

And you're believing what he says, But you're not comparing it to his past.
Conservative do not change their values for political expediency, ever.
Bottomline, Trump has no value system.

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm
.

Cruz is smart, he recognizes what Trump has tapped into here, the anger of the nation over illegals flooding across the border, the same issue the GOP pandered over and in 2012, once elected, threw us under the bus.
Point is, Trump will say whatever he thinks the people want to hear, his track record proves it.
Remember when he wanted Oprah the racist on his ticket, or how he changed party affiliation 5 times since the 80s?
How many people do you know that went from Pub, to Dim and back again?
And if you did, what would you think of their value system and judgement?

Look, I appreciate what Trump is doing, but I'm a realist, I know what he's doing, I also know he is not good for the country, period.

Exactly!  We can't rely on what any of the candidates are saying as they are trying to win the election.  We must research their past to be able to form a positive opinion before we cast our votes.  The Donald might be saying all the right things but are these things part of his core beliefs?  We've only to go back to stands he has taken in the past to try to figure out just what he is all about.  From my summation, Trump has come to a realization of where this country is headed under current influences but who is going to trust him based on his past of support for these types of people?   Not I.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 16, 2015, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on July 16, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
Exactly!  We can't rely on what any of the candidates are saying as they are trying to win the election.  We must research their past to be able to form a positive opinion before we cast our votes.  The Donald might be saying all the right things but are these things part of his core beliefs?  We've only to go back to stands he has taken in the past to try to figure out just what he is all about.  From my summation, Trump has come to a realization of where this country is headed under current influences but who is going to trust him based on his past of support for these types of people?   Not I.

Exactly!  We must search for proof of their "core beliefs"!  That is the proof in the pudding.

It is quite clear that Trump doesn't have any!!!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on July 16, 2015, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 16, 2015, 08:38:24 AM
Exactly!  We must search for proof of their "core beliefs"!  That is the proof in the pudding.

It is quite clear that Trump doesn't have any!!!

Yep, and I am surprised at anyone who can't see thru some of this stuff.  I mean, a good rule of thumb to follow here would be to think that an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 

Cruz had the advantage of being from a faith based family and he hasn't taken some of his heritage into his professional life.  Can't get any better than that to me.   :mellow:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 16, 2015, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on July 16, 2015, 08:58:15 AM
Yep, and I am surprised at anyone who can't see thru some of this stuff.  I mean, a good rule of thumb to follow here would be to think that an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 

Cruz had the advantage of being from a faith based family and he hasn't taken some of his heritage into his professional life.  Can't get any better than that to me.   :mellow:

I also believe heritage and formative years analysis is critical to knowing the "core" of anyone.

Just look no further than Obama to see what makes him tick!  It all emanates from his formative years.

There may be some among us who don't think religion is all that important, but that would be naive IMHO.  It is the  essence of who we are and how we think and reason.  Look back at Reagan!  It was his strong faith in God that made him the man he was!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2015, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on July 16, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
Exactly!  We can't rely on what any of the candidates are saying as they are trying to win the election.  We must research their past to be able to form a positive opinion before we cast our votes.  The Donald might be saying all the right things but are these things part of his core beliefs?  We've only to go back to stands he has taken in the past to try to figure out just what he is all about.  From my summation, Trump has come to a realization of where this country is headed under current influences but who is going to trust him based on his past of support for these types of people?   Not I.
That was the point of being blunt. It's obvious what Trump's values consist of, and they aren't Conservative by any stretch of the immagination.
I'm just glad these aren't the final days before the election. Trump will fade away like he always does, as proven by his record in quietly walking away from deals he can't capitalize on.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 16, 2015, 12:28:37 PM

The fundraising numbers from last Federal Election Commission (FEC) fundraising quarter for 2016 GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
were so good combined with one week in the previous quarter, he has actually raised more "hard money" than former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a new memo from his campaign manager Jeff Roe obtained exclusively by Breitbart News reveals.

"With the release of each presidential campaign's second quarter fundraising and expenditure data, it is clear the Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
for President campaign is well positioned against the other candidates," the Roe memo reads. "Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
raised more 'hard money' than any other Republican in the race, including Jeb Bush; he has built a fundraising infrastructure that will sustain the campaign for the long-term; and he has shown the ability raise money all across the country, receiving donations in nearly half the all the zip codes in America."


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/exclusive-campaign-memo-ted-cruz-has-raised-more-hard-money-than-every-other-gop-candidate-including-jeb-bush/

Folks, our guy is in terrific shape!!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 16, 2015, 12:28:37 PM

The fundraising numbers from last Federal Election Commission (FEC) fundraising quarter for 2016 GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
were so good combined with one week in the previous quarter, he has actually raised more "hard money" than former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a new memo from his campaign manager Jeff Roe obtained exclusively by Breitbart News reveals.

"With the release of each presidential campaign's second quarter fundraising and expenditure data, it is clear the Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
for President campaign is well positioned against the other candidates," the Roe memo reads. "Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
raised more 'hard money' than any other Republican in the race, including Jeb Bush; he has built a fundraising infrastructure that will sustain the campaign for the long-term; and he has shown the ability raise money all across the country, receiving donations in nearly half the all the zip codes in America."


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/exclusive-campaign-memo-ted-cruz-has-raised-more-hard-money-than-every-other-gop-candidate-including-jeb-bush/

Folks, our guy is in terrific shape!!!!
No doubt the base is speaking with their wallets. :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 20, 2015, 06:25:55 AM
Whom would you consider made the more presidential statement?


Scott Walker: Trump 'Needs to Apologize'


Donald Trump should apologize for his comments on Saturday disparaging Arizona Sen. John McCain as "not a war hero," says Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, one of Trump's rivals for the GOP presidential nomination.

"At a minimum he needs to apologize," Walker told "NBC Nightly News"  on Sunday, reiterating an assertion he made on the campaign trail in Iowa a day earlier. He told NBC that Trump's supporters should push the real estate tycoon to say sorry.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-walker-mccain-apologize/2015/07/19/id/657913/?ns_mail_uid=611782&ns_mail_job=1628254_07192015&s=al&dkt_nbr=vlsw5vnh

Cruz: Not Going 'Into the Gutter' to Attack Trump


Unlike his fellow Republican presidential candidates, Senator Ted Cruz refused to repudiate Donald Trump for disparaging Sen. John McCain's war record on Saturday.

"They're running their own campaigns, they can make their decisions, I'm not going to go into the gutter with personal attacks impugning character," Cruz said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, late Saturday afternoon.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/ted-cruz-trump-mccain-war/2015/07/18/id/657833/?ns_mail_uid=611782&ns_mail_job=1628254_07192015&s=al&dkt_nbr=vlsw5vnh
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 20, 2015, 06:32:01 AM
Cruz made the right response.

He took the path less trodden.  That is a sign of character and integrity.

He cannot be condemned for that statement and he won't be compromised.  Great man!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 20, 2015, 06:41:58 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 06:32:01 AM
Cruz made the right response.

He took the path less trodden.  That is a sign of character and integrity.

He cannot be condemned for that statement and he won't be compromised.  Great man!
Yep, he placed himself above the fray of the leftist dog and pony show, and refuses to become a part of a designed distraction.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 22, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
Ted Cruz at his stunning best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSk1c1sdJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSk1c1sdJY)

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 22, 2015, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 22, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
Ted Cruz at his stunning best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSk1c1sdJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSk1c1sdJY)

Amen! And I won't be tract that Amen tomorrow. I really want to see him debate Hillary -- and the other Departments blican dwarfs
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 22, 2015, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: carlb on July 22, 2015, 10:01:02 AM
Amen! And I won't be tract that Amen tomorrow. I really want to see him debate Hillary -- and the other Republican dwarfs
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 22, 2015, 10:36:12 AM

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) wants to force the Senate to vote on defunding Planned Parenthood this week, as a second undercover video unleashes a new storm of scrutiny of the organization.

Cruz's office said Tuesday that he plans to file an amendment on the highway bill that would eliminate all federal funding for Planned Parenthood, in addition to an amendment that would fully repeal ObamaCare.


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/248633-cruz-vows-vote-on-defunding-planned-parenthood
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 22, 2015, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 22, 2015, 10:36:12 AM

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) wants to force the Senate to vote on defunding Planned Parenthood this week, as a second undercover video unleashes a new storm of scrutiny of the organization.

Cruz's office said Tuesday that he plans to file an amendment on the highway bill that would eliminate all federal funding for Planned Parenthood, in addition to an amendment that would fully repeal ObamaCare.


Good.  He still has my driving support as our next President because he's 180-degrees diametrically opposite the evil ideologies behind 'planned murderhood', government-managed healthcare.

I like Fiorina and Trump, but both have a dash of Cruz envy when I hear them speak.  They may not be aware of it.  -Or I may be wrong. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 06:56:33 AM
Cruz engages with "Code Pink" protesters as they try to crash a rally at the WH.


https://youtu.be/DNBfuz3iNrk
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 24, 2015, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 06:56:33 AM
Cruz engages with "Code Pink" protesters as they try to crash a rally at the WH.

Great vid.  Cruz started tough, and he's getting tougher as the campaign winds-along.  If he was going to stumble the way the MSM wants him to stumble, he would've done it long long ago.  He simply outsmarts the critics. 

Bringing-forth the shouters, then forcing them to speak... is a brilliant move.  They desperately reach to complete a coherent sentence, which is exactly how their MSM puppeteers trained them as to how Cruz would be.  That's why we've seen less-and-less of Cruz heckling-vids since 2010-ish. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
In the picture did you notice Jenny Beth Martin in the black dress in the background?  She heads up TP Patriots.  Whether you are a fan of TPP or not, they are an ongoing presence in the political arena. 

They and many other TP organizations keep the TP relevant in the political discourse.  We don't all agree on all things, but we remain a political force with clout!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
In the picture did you notice Jenny Beth Martin in the black dress in the background?  She heads up TP Patriots.  Whether you are a fan of TPP or not, they are an ongoing presence in the political arena. 

They and many other TP organizations keep the TP relevant in the political discourse.  We don't all agree on all things, but we remain a political force with clout!
Jenny Beth Martin is a sell out, a traitor to TEA, this needs to be stated every time she is mentioned.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 08:56:05 AM
Brent Bozell endorses Ted Cruz for President...

https://youtu.be/03kuHt1H_Ek
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 24, 2015, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 08:50:58 AM
In the picture did you notice Jenny Beth Martin in the black dress in the background?  She heads up TP Patriots.  Whether you are a fan of TPP or not, they are an ongoing presence in the political arena. 

They and many other TP organizations keep the TP relevant in the political discourse.  We don't all agree on all things, but we remain a political force with clout!

I didn't notice her, but I saw Gary Bauer in foreground: right...  I forget the name of his organization at-the-moment. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 09:10:02 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 24, 2015, 09:00:17 AM
I didn't notice her, but I saw Gary Bauer in foreground: right...  I forget the name of his organization at-the-moment.

Bauer founded  "The Family Research Council" but no longer is involved with it.  He is purely a political activist and speaker now.

BTW, The Family Research Council was taken over by the son of Dr. James Dobson.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 10:49:41 AM
All hell broke lose today on the Senate floor.....


By ERICA WERNER and LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a stunning attack on a leader of his own party, Republican Sen. Ted Cruz accused Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of lying to him and said he couldn't be trusted.

Cruz, a Texan who is running for president but ranks low in early polling, delivered the broadside in a speech on the Senate floor, an extraordinary departure from the norms of Senate behavior that demand courtesy and respect.

At issue are assurances Cruz claimed McConnell, R-Ky., had given that there was no deal to allow a vote to renew the federal Export-Import Bank — a little-known federal agency that has become a rallying cry for conservatives. Cruz rose to deliver his remarks moments after McConnell had lined up a vote on the Export-Import Bank for coming days.

"It saddens me to say this. I sat in my office, I told my staff the majority leader looked me in the eye and looked 54 Republicans in the eye. I cannot believe he would tell a flat-out lie, and I voted based on those assurances that he made to each and every one of us," Cruz said.


http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/07/24/cruz-mcconnell-lied-on-ex-im-bank-cannot-be-trusted
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 08:56:05 AM
Brent Bozell endorses Ted Cruz for President...

https://youtu.be/03kuHt1H_Ek
:thumbup:
This is an outstanding endorsement!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 11:41:19 AM
:thumbup:
This is an outstanding endorsement!

I agree.  Bozell's words carry a lot of weight in the media.  It is good to have him aboard!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Watch Ted Cruz go ballistic on the Senate floor today.  It was a scorched earth oration!!

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4545847/senator-ted-cruz-export-import-bank-reauthorization
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Watch Ted Cruz go ballistic on the Senate floor today.  It was a scorched earth oration!!

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4545847/senator-ted-cruz-export-import-bank-reauthorization
Is this the video where he accused RINO McCONel of lying to the Senate? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
Is this the video where he accused RINO McCONel of lying to the Senate? :biggrin:

Yes, it is a "must watch" clip!

I tried and tried to get it copied via URL so that it would come directly visible on our forum.... but I failed.

It was one of the best speeches I have heard from Ted!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Yes, it is a "must watch" clip!

I tried and tried to get it copied via URL so that it would come directly visible on our forum.... but I failed.

It was one of the best speeches I have heard from Ted!!!!!!!
Maybe Taxed or Walks can figure it out, here's the embed code.
I've never been able to make those work either.

<iframe frameborder='0' width='512' height='330' scrollable='no' src='http://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4545847'></iframe>
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 24, 2015, 02:52:11 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W079mexKZHY
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 24, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
Quote from: carlb on July 24, 2015, 02:52:11 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W079mexKZHY

Thanks, carib!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 24, 2015, 03:00:35 PM
I grabbed it off YouTube. Looks like it gets "hijacked" by Brent Bozell. He's one on the good guys, but that's not what we wanna hear. There might be actual full copies on YouTube though. Worth hearing. This guy has to be the next Prez.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 24, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
Maybe Taxed or Walks can figure it out, here's the embed code.
I've never been able to make those work either.

<iframe frameborder='0' width='512' height='330' scrollable='no' src='http://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4545847'></iframe>

I can find it, but it over my head to make it load on this board. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: walkstall on July 24, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
I can find it, but it over my head to make it load on this board.
Yeah, I've never understood the embed code they say you can use, it's never worked on this forum.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on July 24, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
Yeah, I've never understood the embed code they say you can use, it's never worked on this forum.

Has anyone tried just pasting the URL like we do for YouTube items?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2015, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: quiller on July 24, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
Has anyone tried just pasting the URL like we do for YouTube items?
Yeah, it looks like this.

<iframe frameborder='0' width='512' height='330' scrollable='no' src='http://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4545847'></iframe>
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on July 24, 2015, 06:10:26 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 19, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Money is not a problem for him, b o is riding on the taxpayers money yet.

He's off right now on a visit to Mother Africa.

I am going to be shocked if Bathhouse Barry and the First Wookie don't do like the Clinton's and spend millions on tourist trip to Africa for all their black racist friends.

I'm pretty sure not a single one of them realizes the deep contempt most Africans have for western blacks.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on July 24, 2015, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 05:31:43 PM
Yeah, it looks like this.

<iframe frameborder='0' width='512' height='330' scrollable='no' src='http://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4545847'></iframe>
Tried it with just the http:// part and got nowhere. One presumes this to be some evil C-Span conspiracy.  :blink:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 24, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: quiller on July 24, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
Has anyone tried just pasting the URL like we do for YouTube items?

I come up with a blank page.  All white, nothing there just blank.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 24, 2015, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 10:49:41 AM
"It saddens me to say this. I sat in my office, I told my staff the majority leader looked me in the eye and looked 54 Republicans in the eye. I cannot believe he would tell a flat-out lie, and I voted based on those assurances that he made to each and every one of us," Cruz said.[/b]
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/07/24/cruz-mcconnell-lied-on-ex-im-bank-cannot-be-trusted

Cruz has got to be ticked. The bottom nearly fell out of his campaign with that yes vote on Obama fast track authority. Mitch gotcha.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 24, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
Is this the video where he accused RINO McCONel of lying to the Senate? :biggrin:

Well I watched it.  What a shame.  Our government is corrupt.  There is no hope for the people to be represented in our country.  Government whether Democrat or Republicans do work for the big corporations that buy votes.  It really doesn't matter which party you vote for does it?

What an impressive speech.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on July 24, 2015, 11:46:08 PM
Cruz destroys McConnell on the Senate floor.

That was so good we can categorize that as "Cruz Porn"...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on July 24, 2015, 11:55:00 PM
One other thing. While watching Cruz on the Senate floor I noticed he has the biggest ears in the history of ears. He looks like a Ferengi.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 25, 2015, 03:34:10 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 24, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
Well I watched it.  What a shame.  Our government is corrupt.  There is no hope for the people to be represented in our country.  Government whether Democrat or Republicans do work for the big corporations that buy votes.  It really doesn't matter which party you vote for does it?

What an impressive speech.

Yes it does. What Cruz did goes a LONG way toward holding the corrupt accountable. This was on Rush yesterday and every major talk show.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 25, 2015, 05:05:07 AM
Quote from: carlb on July 25, 2015, 03:34:10 AM
Yes it does. What Cruz did goes a LONG way toward holding the corrupt accountable. This was on Rush yesterday and every major talk show.

Mitch has since gone into hiding.  The reporters cannot get a comment from him about it.

My question is ....... WHY aren't the other conservative Senators running to support Cruz's revelation?????

There is a deafening silence from the Senate since Cruz's  speech.  They are all running for the hills..!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2015, 05:53:03 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 05:05:07 AM
Mitch has since gone into hiding.  The reporters cannot get a comment from him about it.

My question is ....... WHY aren't the other conservative Senators running to support Cruz's revelation?????

There is a deafening silence from the Senate since Cruz's  speech.  They are all running for the hills..!!
When dad speaks, children listen.
He literally towers over the rest intellectually, like that of a parent to a toddler.
For anyone to and attempt to articulate what Cruz said, would, by comparison, sound like a Valley Girl reciting Shakespeare. :laugh:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 25, 2015, 08:59:49 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 05:05:07 AM
Mitch has since gone into hiding.  The reporters cannot get a comment from him about it.

My question is ....... WHY aren't the other conservative Senators running to support Cruz's revelation?????

There is a deafening silence from the Senate since Cruz's  speech.  They are all running for the hills..!!

Maintaining their positions and power on committees is more important than core values. As long as McConnell is the majority leader other senators will be afraid of him.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 25, 2015, 09:02:42 AM

Before he finished his speech, Cruz tried to get a vote on his Iran/Israel amendment. But the presiding officer ruled it was not in order because McConnell had blocked all other amendments.

Cruz appealed the ruling of the chair and a full Senate vote on the appeal will take place Sunday, just after the Export-Import Bank vote.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/politics/ted-cruz-mitch-mcconnell-senate/index.html

So it looks like the fireworks will come alive again on Sunday...tomorrow.

Can't wait to tune in to C-SPAN!   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2015, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 25, 2015, 08:59:49 AM
Maintaining their positions and power on committees is more important than core values. As long as McConnell is the majority leader other senators will be afraid of him.
You are absolutely correct.
With one exception, Cruz. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on July 25, 2015, 11:06:06 AM
Quit ripping big business.
They hire people and we need more of them.
Look what the libs did to Boise Cascade around here, they ran them off by trying to tax their pants off. (don't worry as we have MacDonalds.)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on July 25, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 05:05:07 AM
Mitch has since gone into hiding.  The reporters cannot get a comment from him about it.

My question is ....... WHY aren't the other conservative Senators running to support Cruz's revelation?????



There are conservative US Senators?

Where?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 25, 2015, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on July 25, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
There are conservative US Senators?

Where?

How about Mike Lee?

Ron Johnson?

David Vitter?

James Rische?

Michael Enzi?

James Inhofe?

John Barrasso?

Pat Roberts?

Mike Crapo?

Chuck Grassley?

Tom Coburn?

Jeff Sessions?

At least some of these guys should be speaking out in support of Cruz!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 25, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: darroll on July 25, 2015, 11:06:06 AM
Quit ripping big business.
They hire people and we need more of them.
Look what the libs did to Boise Cascade around here, they ran them off by trying to tax their pants off. (don't worry as we have MacDonalds.)

Yes we need to be business friendly.  I agree that we need to do things which keep business in the United States.  We need to stop running our companies off to other countries.  However...................we also need to protect the American worker.  Big business are abusing some of our laws.  For instance and this is a big one......HB1 visa's.  I don't believe for a moment that corporations cannot find Americans to fill jobs.  If we are that undereducated then quit giving money to these communist universities.  Here is a great article describing how big business is sticking it to American workers.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-visas-tech-workers-h1b-20150217-story.html

And by the way the HBI Visa program allows temporary workers to get mortgages.  How does that work when the Visa is up?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on July 25, 2015, 04:57:39 PM
HB1 visa's:
We ran adds in all the papers looking for micro solderers. We did not get one person that could do the job.
We called our outlet, India. They sent us all we needed.
Now the government is trying to dry up our access to smart, sober people overseas.
Microsoft just laid off thousands of workers. (you cant have all dumb workers)
Americans are not serious about putting down their bong and getting an education.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on July 25, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: darroll on July 25, 2015, 04:57:39 PM
HB1 visa's:
We ran adds in all the papers looking for micro solderers. We did not get one person that could do the job.
We called our outlet, India. They sent us all we needed.
Now the government is trying to dry up our access to smart, sober people overseas.
Microsoft just laid off thousands of workers. (you cant have all dumb workers)
Americans are not serious about putting down their bong and getting an education.

Quit subsidizing Americans who won't work. As soon as that happens, they'll beg for those jobs. Funny how hunger and bills motivates the lazy. The problem is, the GOVERNMENT has an interest in keeping the masses ignorant and dependent.

BTW, often, Americans are being forced by these companies to TRAIN THEIR OWN REPLACEMENTS! This for no other reason than to get cheap labor. Not all Americans are lazy. If you believe that, you hang out with the wrong crowd.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on July 25, 2015, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: carlb on July 25, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Quit subsidizing Americans who won't work. As soon as that happens, they'll beg for those jobs. Funny how hunger and bills motivates the lazy. The problem is, the GOVERNMENT has an interest in keeping the masses ignorant and dependent.

BTW, often, Americans are being forced by these companies to TRAIN THEIR OWN REPLACEMENTS! This for no other reason than to get cheap labor. Not all Americans are lazy. If you believe that, you hang out with the wrong crowd.
I didn't mean Americans are lazy.
Our Company was a blue chip company. I told our people in a meeting that they could buy (for retirement) one share of stock and the company would give them one for free. They told me the company was trying to rip them off. They hated the place. Then they wondered why the company moved off shore every chance they got. I said if I owned this place I would move too.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 25, 2015, 07:54:48 PM
I work in manufacturing and I work hard all day long.  Hardly ever take my breaks.  We have lots of Hispanic people and let me tell you there isn't a one of them that works harder than I do.  In fact I have seen some lazy workers.  I have worked with lots of Oriental people, Indian......etc.  Not any harder workers than I am.  I pride myself in the work I do.  It is good quality and I get the job done.  There are lazy workers in every culture.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 25, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
They had to tell everyone they couldn't have their phones because some "lazy" people were watching video's and texting in the bathrooms.  Not me.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 25, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
I can micro solder too.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on July 25, 2015, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 01:26:42 PM
How about Mike Lee?

Ron Johnson?

David Vitter?

James Rische?

Michael Enzi?

James Inhofe?

John Barrasso?

Pat Roberts?

Mike Crapo?

Chuck Grassley?

Tom Coburn?

Jeff Sessions?

At least some of these guys should be speaking out in support of Cruz!!!

Ok,I don't recognize most of those names,but I will take your word for it that they are or at least lean conservative..

The fact that I don't recognize most of the names only serves to highlight the actual problem. Between the media,the DNC,and the RNC,conservatives can't even buy face time on television.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on July 26, 2015, 04:23:38 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on July 25, 2015, 08:58:43 PM
The fact that I don't recognize most of the names only serves to highlight the actual problem. Between the media,the DNC,and the RNC,conservatives can't even buy face time on television.

You're probably watching too much television, news-wise.

Most of Congress' work is in Committee
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on July 26, 2015, 07:07:33 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 26, 2015, 04:23:38 AM
You're probably watching too much television, news-wise.

Most of Congress' work is in Committee.

And Commitees are always under the TOTAL control of the Committee Chairman.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 26, 2015, 07:13:41 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 01:26:42 PM
How about Mike Lee?
Ron Johnson? David Vitter? James Rische? Michael Enzi?
James Inhofe? John Barrasso? Pat Roberts? Mike Crapo?
Chuck Grassley? Tom Coburn? Jeff Sessions?
At least some of these guys should be speaking out in support of Cruz!!!

All good ones. Add Steve Daines, MT, and Ken Buck, CO.
Getting over this idea that a conservative is only a conservative if he or she does
not fall in line with every single vote we think they should.  In spite of our best efforts, US states remain individual and unique,
with the possible exception of CA and OR.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 26, 2015, 08:36:11 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 26, 2015, 07:13:41 AM
All good ones. Add Steve Daines, MT, and Ken Buck, CO.
Getting over this idea that a conservative is only a conservative if he or she does
not fall in line with every single vote we think they should.  In spite of our best efforts, US states remain individual and unique,
with the possible exception of CA and OR.  :biggrin:

I think we can add Tim Scott (SC).
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on July 26, 2015, 10:54:03 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on July 25, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
I can micro solder too.
Good for you. I guess they don't teach specs and drawings anymore in America?
Everyone got excited about programming. We have one programmer for five states.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 26, 2015, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 26, 2015, 08:36:11 AM
I think we can add Tim Scott (SC).

I thought about putting Tim Scott in the mix but based upon some of key's posts I did not.   :confused:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 27, 2015, 06:26:01 AM


"They operate as a team, expanding Washington and undermining the liberty of the people," the Texas Republican said of Senate Democratic and Republican leaders.

"We've just seen something extraordinary on the Senate floor. The American people elected a Republican majority believing that a Republican majority would be somehow different from a Democratic majority in the United States Senate. Unfortunately, the way the current Senate operates, there is one party, the Washington party."

The admonishment of the 2016 Republican presidential candidate came as a prelude to a series of votes that advanced language to revive the Export-Import Bank, moved the chamber closer towards passing a highway funding bill, and once again rejected a measure to repeal the Affordable Care Act.



Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article28770724.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on July 27, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 26, 2015, 08:36:11 AM
I think we can add Tim Scott (SC).

Not hardly.  He's turning RINO with Nikki Haley.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 27, 2015, 10:35:15 AM
Senator Ted Cruz tweets, 7/27/2015,

"Join the Fight. Break the Washington cartel."
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 27, 2015, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 27, 2015, 10:35:15 AM
Senator Ted Cruz tweets, 7/27/2015,

"Join the Fight. Break the Washington cartel."


Yes, this should be getting Ted a lot more positive attention than it is.  Trump doesn't leave much air space for events like this one...... which is extremely important.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 27, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
Ted is doing the right thing, let Trump run his mouth and beat his chest like a gorilla while throwing monkey poop on all the RINO's. SNeak in now and then with a rabbit punch and then go back to low profile....smart.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on July 27, 2015, 06:45:05 PM
Thousands of Cruz supporters called, wrote, and emailed him, begging him to reconsider his yes vote on Fast Track. Guess what, he did. He looked into it and discovered that secretive fast track bill had been seriously mis represented by McConnell and Obama.

Now, your hair brained Democrats are going to call Cruz on "changing," even though they all voted against it, too. The Republicans and RINO, with the exception of Donald Trump, are also going to give Sen. Ted a hard time about being "too independent minded."

You know what? I think Cruz comes out of this looking better than ever. He's the man.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 27, 2015, 06:47:50 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on July 27, 2015, 06:45:05 PM
Thousands of Cruz supporters called, wrote, and emailed him, begging him to reconsider his yes vote on Fast Track. Guess what, he did. He looked into it and discovered that secretive fast track bill had been seriously mis represented by McConnell and Obama.

Now, your hair brained Democrats are going to call Cruz on "changing," even though they all voted against it, too. The Republicans and RINO, with the exception of Donald Trump, are also going to give Sen. Ted a hard time about being "too independent minded."

You know what? I think Cruz comes out of this looking better than ever. He's the man.

:ohmy:  Great post, red!! 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 27, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: darroll on July 26, 2015, 10:54:03 AM
Good for you. I guess they don't teach specs and drawings anymore in America?
Everyone got excited about programming. We have one programmer for five states.

Sorry.  Sounds like our Universities are too busy teaching Communism.  I learned Drawings and schematics on the job.  Seems funny to me that you can't find Americans to fill those jobs.  You sound so limited.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Mountainshield on July 28, 2015, 04:16:46 AM
He is the only one with guts enough to on the Mark Levin show, that says enough.  :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 28, 2015, 07:34:07 AM
Good summary of last week for Ted Cruz.

https://youtu.be/UMyvdqDs3fw
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 29, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
Cruz gets "very good" rating on amnesty from NumbersUSA.  Does he deserve it??

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/does-ted-cruz-deserve-his-very-good-amnesty-rating
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on July 29, 2015, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 29, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
Cruz gets "very good" rating on amnesty from NumbersUSA.  Does he deserve it??

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/does-ted-cruz-deserve-his-very-good-amnesty-rating






Cruz is definitely the man we need as our leader.  He reminds me of the early Texans in his approach.  He is deliberate enough, doesn't need to jump up and down and sling stuff like Trump is doing to get his message across.  The way he went about this re-voting, at the request of his constituents is a good example of his being able to look at the whole picture and change his mind when he feels like it is the right way to go.  He went to the trouble of researching the bill and then on to his recommendations once he found out that Americans were getting the shaft.  He is turning out to be the great statesman i thought him to be at the first. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on July 29, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: keyboarder on July 29, 2015, 01:53:04 PM






Cruz is definitely the man we need as our leader.  He reminds me of the early Texans in his approach.  He is deliberate enough, doesn't need to jump up and down and sling stuff like Trump is doing to get his message across.  The way he went about this re-voting, at the request of his constituents is a good example of his being able to look at the whole picture and change his mind when he feels like it is the right way to go.  He went to the trouble of researching the bill and then on to his recommendations once he found out that Americans were getting the shaft.  He is turning out to be the great statesman i thought him to be at the first.

I see Cruz as similar to Reagan in that the GOP establishment hates him and the democrats discount him. A perfect place to be at this point. Not bashing Trump is a wise move. Many of Trump's supporters are conservatives who will need a place to go when Trump flames out.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 29, 2015, 04:20:20 PM
Ted is doing the right thing, staying away from Trump and focusing on the issues, low profile until they get into the debate next week....I cant wait to see him in action!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on July 30, 2015, 12:38:46 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 29, 2015, 04:20:20 PM
Ted is doing the right thing, staying away from Trump and focusing on the issues, low profile until they get into the debate next week....I cant wait to see him in action!

Well, me too but I don't get CSPAN.  Wonder if it will be online?  I can hook it up to my TV if it is going to air online. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 30, 2015, 04:20:31 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on July 30, 2015, 12:38:46 AM
Well, me too but I don't get CSPAN.  Wonder if it will be online?  I can hook it up to my TV if it is going to air online.

It will be on the Fox News channel.  I don't know about the Fox local channels.   I doubt that it is on C-SPAN... that is a channel devoted to Congress.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2015, 09:01:44 AM
"If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world's leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism," Cruz said during a round table Tuesday. "Billions of dollars under control of this administration will flow into the hands of jihadists who will use that money to murder Americans, to murder Israelis, to murder Europeans."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90TI5Xe7xKQ
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on July 31, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
Good video, solar.   I enjoyed listening to all of the speakers.  They were unanimous in their anger over the Iran Deal! 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 31, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
Good video, solar.   I enjoyed listening to all of the speakers.  They were unanimous in their anger over the Iran Deal!
At least Cruz has the nads to call a spade a spade. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on July 31, 2015, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...

Do you have a link for that?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on August 01, 2015, 05:12:43 AM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...

So who would you feel is the better candidate?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...
Essentially, sins of the father.
His wife is not Ted, and she is not running for office. If we were to use this criteria for all candidates, there wouldn't be a qualified soul left to run.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 01, 2015, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
Essentially, sins of the father.
His wife is not Ted, and she is not running for office. If we were to use this criteria for all candidates, there wouldn't be a qualified soul left to run.

From what I can see Cruz's wife is standing behind beside him 100%.  NOT her old job.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2015, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 01, 2015, 10:25:26 AM
From what I can see Cruz's wife is standing behind beside him 100%.  NOT her old job.
Yep, I guess if you're looking for a reason to hate, you can always find something.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: zewazir on August 01, 2015, 11:19:26 AM
Interesting that even among people with a shared vision of what a Constitutional Republic should look like, when it comes to politics it is still easier to try to bring down opposing candidates than it is to support one's own.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 01, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...

It is true that Heidi had a high level position at Goldman Sachs.  I do not know if she is on leave of absence or has terminated her employment.

However, that does not equate to anything negative on Heidi's part and definitely not Ted's.

So what?

Guilt by association is a bad proposition.  Honorable people deal with Wall Street every day.

The last I heard, Goldman Sach's is giving to several different candidates....... but I did not see Ted's name on the list!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 01, 2015, 04:13:06 PM
Quote from: zewazir on August 01, 2015, 11:19:26 AM
Interesting that even among people with a shared vision of what a Constitutional Republic should look like, when it comes to politics it is still easier to try to bring down opposing candidates than it is to support one's own.

I am having a hard time at this point picking out anyone deserving of my support.

Granted,it is still early days yet and there is still plenty of time for one of them to surge to the front of the pack,but it just hasn't happened yet for me.

I can't think of any circumstances that would cause me to vote for JEB or Trump. Just ain't going to happen,period.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 01, 2015, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 01, 2015, 04:13:06 PM
I am having a hard time at this point picking out anyone deserving of my support.

Granted,it is still early days yet and there is still plenty of time for one of them to surge to the front of the pack,but it just hasn't happened yet for me.

I can't think of any circumstances that would cause me to vote for JEB or Trump. Just ain't going to happen,period.

Two down about 25 to go yet.    :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 01, 2015, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...

That's one I'm not falling for.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 01, 2015, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: Kayla73 on July 31, 2015, 07:44:48 PM
What worries me is that Cruz's wife was the managing director at goldman sachs, he's a little too close to Wall Street for my taste...

So he is a crony capitalist by marriage?

Working for a large financial institution is not a crime.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 01, 2015, 06:18:55 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.

How does one think Canadian?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kathy s. on August 01, 2015, 06:27:30 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.

That "John Wayne" like Perry is the biggest purveyor of cronyism I've ever seen. I've lived in Texas nearly all my life and it's an ill kept secret he made sure his buddies held the highest offices in the state. In fact, he and his crony David Dewhurst were so sure Dewhurst has the Senate seat wrapped up, they were slow to figure out that Cruz was on the rise, until it was too late.
  Perry is an idiot, weak on illegal immigration, and won't get the Presidency- at least I hope not.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 01, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 01, 2015, 06:18:55 PM
How does one think Canadian?

Can you say Romper Room.   :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 01, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.

You'd like to be dominated by someone manlier?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 02, 2015, 05:30:12 AM
Quote from: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.
What is YOUR least favorite has a superb chance of winning the GOP nomination.


I grew up on Canadian TV And radio. Go ahead --- define "thinks too Canadian."

As for too feminine? Have you noticed how Hussein the Magnificent tries to throw a baseball? And those REALLY MASCULINE mom jeans Obonzo wears! (*SNORK!*)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2015, 05:44:34 AM
Quote from: Michael on August 01, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
Of all the candidates to choose from on the right side, Cruz is my least favorite.  He thinks too Canadian for me. And he appears really feminine, not like a John Wayne Texan like Perry.
I'd be willing to bet your entire library consists of all picture books, doesn't it?
Because substance means nothing in the visual tactile and emotional world of the lib.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 02, 2015, 08:15:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2015, 05:44:34 AM
I'd be willing to bet your entire library consists of all picture books, doesn't it?
Because substance means nothing in the visual tactile and emotional world of the lib.

I see you pissed someone off again and got taxed some new chew toys. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 02, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
Who's the new clown?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 02, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 02, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
Who's the new clown?

There are several floating around right now, but walks was referring to Michael.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 02, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 02, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
Who's the new clown?
Offhand? Lunch.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 02, 2015, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: quiller on August 02, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
Offhand? Lunch.

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:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I like it q.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS517US518&q=Cruz+cooked+bacon#q=Cruz+cooked+bacon&tbm=vid

For your viewing pleasure.  Ted Cruz cooks bacon on assault rifle.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 03, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS517US518&q=Cruz+cooked+bacon#q=Cruz+cooked+bacon&tbm=vid

For your viewing pleasure.  Ted Cruz cooks bacon on assault rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEdQcB6-Kg0
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
How did you do that?  Thanks for re-posting.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 06:54:06 AM

SKIMM YOUR CANDIDATE: SEN. TED CRUZ (TX), REPUBLICAN

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was the first major presidential candidate to show up to the 2016 party. Now, he's trying to beat a field of 16 other Republicans in the race for the top job. Get to know your candidate here. Note: ALL candidates have been offered the chance to Guest Skimm. Opinions are of the candidate, not theSkimm. To Skimm other candidates go here.


HOMETOWN:
Houston [Texas]. I was born in Calgary, Canada.

FUN FACT:
I grew up playing all sorts of video games, but now I mostly play them on my iPhone, which drives [my wife] Heidi crazy. Both Caroline and Catherine, my girls, love to play Plants vs. Zombies on the iPhone.

WHO SHOULD WE CALL FOR A REFERENCE?
My wife Heidi. She is my best friend in the entire world. She is beautiful, brilliant, and an amazing businesswoman. And, a phenomenal mom to our two little girls. Everything we do, we do together.

WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST STRENGTH?
That I do what I say I will do. All of us are frustrated out of our minds, that career politicians in Washington in both parties, Democrats and Republicans, make promises on the campaign trail that they don't follow through. And, indeed, I've referred many times to what I call "the Washington Cartel" — which is career politicians in both parties getting in bed with lobbyists with special interests. And it seems, no matter which party is in power, the government grows and grows, our debt grows and grows, and our liberties continually recede. And, I believe working men and women across this country are fed up, and are looking for leaders who will honor their promises. And that's what I've done every day I've been in office.

WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST WEAKNESS?
Being willing to take on the Washington Cartel. Necessarily, it takes withering attacks coming back at you. You take on the Washington Cartel, Democrats attack you, Republicans attack you, the media attacks you. Being subject to those withering attacks is not without its challenges.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR STANCES ON A FEW ISSUES. IT'S BEST TO KEEP YOUR ANSWERS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE, AND CONVERSATIONAL.

That's a hard request for someone who talked for 21 hours in Congress.

WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE FOLLOWING...

THE ECONOMY.
My top priority in all of this has been restoring economic growth, bringing back jobs, growth, and opportunity. For six and a half years, we have been trapped in economic stagnation, and that is a direct result of out of control spending at the cost of the nation. We can get back to booming growth, and the keys to doing so are tax reform and regulatory reform. Tax reform: adopting a simple flat tax, where every American can fill out his or her taxes on a post card. And regulatory reform: stopping the crushing regulations that are strangling small businesses, that are making it harder and harder to create jobs. And the most important regulatory reform is repealing every word of Obamacare, which is just the biggest job killer in this country.

THAT ANSWERS OUR NEXT QUESTION WHICH WAS HEALTH CARE. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE STATE OF EDUCATION AND STUDENT LOANS?
I understand this first-hand....when I came out of college and grad school, I had six-figures in student loans. I just paid off my student loans five or six years ago. Economic growth is critical to young people because if we want this generation to be able to pay off their loans and develop the skills to live the American dream, we've got to return to an environment where small businesses are growing and flourishing, and creating jobs and opportunities. That's my top priority.

CLIMATE CHANGE.
I believe that government policy should follow the evidence and the data....When it comes to global warming, far too much of the debate in Washington is centered around politics rather than the data and the evidence. If you look to the satellite data, it demonstrates that over the past 17 years, there has been no meaningful recorded warming whatsoever. And yet, politicians in Washington are disregarding the evidence and the facts because it is in their political interest to expand government control over the economy. And, to drive up costs for hard-working families across this country.

WOULD YOU CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE US IS HANDLING THIS WHOLE ISIS THING?
We cannot win a war on radical Islamist terrorists with a president and administration unwilling to utter the words "radical Islamic terrorists"....Right now, the Obama administration refuses to acknowledge what it is we're fighting. And, our policy has been utterly ineffective. Just a few months ago, President Obama dismissed ISIS as, to quote, "Junior Varsity." It turned out his assessment was profoundly wrong. Radical Islamic terrorism is on the rise....And yet the administration persists in what is essentially a photo-op foreign policy — drop a bomb here, a missile there. We need a commander-in-chief who resolves to do what is necessary to keep Americans safe from radical Islamic terrorists who have declared war on America.

GUN CONTROL.
I've just spent virtually my entire life fighting to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights exclusively protects the Second Amendment right to bear arms. The right of law by the citizens to protect their homes, to protect their families. I have also spent much of my adult life in law enforcement. I believe we should go after violent criminals and come down on them like a ton of bricks.

RIGHT TO CHOOSE. YES OR NO?
I believe that women have the right to choose in every aspect of their lives. To choose how to work, how to live, how to achieve the American dream. Now, I also support the right to life of every unborn child. Every girl and boy. And I believe that we should work towards a culture that protects every human life from the moment of conception until the time of natural death.

GAY MARRIAGE. YES OR NO?
It may be that you and I disagree on the policy of marriage. I support traditional marriage as the union between one man and one woman. But under the Constitution, if you disagree with that proposition, there is an avenue for you to advance your policy. Namely, you can try to convince your fellow citizens to change the marriage laws of your states. From the beginning of this country, marriage has always been a question for the states. Now it may well be that the men and women of some states (New York and California) might make one policy decision, and the men and women of other states (like Texas or Florida) make a different policy decision. That's the way our Constitution is supposed to work. Unfortunately, five judges on the Supreme Court decided they didn't care what 320 million Americans thought about the laws that should govern them. That they were going to impose their own extreme policy instead that was contrary to Constitution and fundamentally undermined the rule of law in this country.

WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THE WHITE HOUSE CHEF TO MAKE FOR YOUR FIRST MEAL AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVE?
I had joked that one of the things I would very quickly do is make preparations to have a Christmas Eve pig roast on the south lawn of the White House. The Cuban tradition is to roast a pig for Christmas Eve, and I look forward to doing that.

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HIT SNOOZE IN THE AM?
Typically twice. It is a bad habit I have had my whole life....when I was in college, my college roommates super glued the snooze button down so that I couldn't hit snooze again.

HOW DO YOU TAKE YOUR COFFEE?
With lots of cream, and being Cuban, we often prefer café con leche.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 04, 2015, 07:28:28 AM
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 03, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
How did you do that?  Thanks for re-posting.
At the upper right of any post is a QUOTE button which will show the entire post including coding for a given link. In this case, Walks found a shorter URL.

Hit QUOTE on my post here. The code he used is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEdQcB6-Kg0
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on August 04, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 01, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
You'd like to be dominated by someone manlier?

Uh oh, I can see it coming..............

This poster just got you started didn't he?   Go ahead, make our day!     :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: darroll on August 04, 2015, 11:11:35 AM
Use a little C4 to heat the baby's bottle.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 04, 2015, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: walkstall on August 02, 2015, 08:14:25 PM

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I like it q.

Needed a change.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 04, 2015, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 06:54:06 AM
SKIMM YOUR CANDIDATE: SEN. TED CRUZ (TX), REPUBLICAN

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was the first major presidential candidate to show up to the 2016 party. Now, he's trying to beat a field of 16 other Republicans in the race for the top job. Get to know your candidate here. Note: ALL candidates have been offered the chance to Guest Skimm. Opinions are of the candidate, not theSkimm. To Skimm other candidates go here.


HOMETOWN:
Houston [Texas]. I was born in Calgary, Canada.

FUN FACT:
I grew up playing all sorts of video games, but now I mostly play them on my iPhone, which drives [my wife] Heidi crazy. Both Caroline and Catherine, my girls, love to play Plants vs. Zombies on the iPhone.

WHO SHOULD WE CALL FOR A REFERENCE?
My wife Heidi. She is my best friend in the entire world. She is beautiful, brilliant, and an amazing businesswoman. And, a phenomenal mom to our two little girls. Everything we do, we do together.

WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST STRENGTH?
That I do what I say I will do. All of us are frustrated out of our minds, that career politicians in Washington in both parties, Democrats and Republicans, make promises on the campaign trail that they don't follow through. And, indeed, I've referred many times to what I call "the Washington Cartel" — which is career politicians in both parties getting in bed with lobbyists with special interests. And it seems, no matter which party is in power, the government grows and grows, our debt grows and grows, and our liberties continually recede. And, I believe working men and women across this country are fed up, and are looking for leaders who will honor their promises. And that's what I've done every day I've been in office.

WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST WEAKNESS?
Being willing to take on the Washington Cartel. Necessarily, it takes withering attacks coming back at you. You take on the Washington Cartel, Democrats attack you, Republicans attack you, the media attacks you. Being subject to those withering attacks is not without its challenges.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR STANCES ON A FEW ISSUES. IT'S BEST TO KEEP YOUR ANSWERS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE, AND CONVERSATIONAL.

That's a hard request for someone who talked for 21 hours in Congress.

WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE FOLLOWING...

THE ECONOMY.
My top priority in all of this has been restoring economic growth, bringing back jobs, growth, and opportunity. For six and a half years, we have been trapped in economic stagnation, and that is a direct result of out of control spending at the cost of the nation. We can get back to booming growth, and the keys to doing so are tax reform and regulatory reform. Tax reform: adopting a simple flat tax, where every American can fill out his or her taxes on a post card. And regulatory reform: stopping the crushing regulations that are strangling small businesses, that are making it harder and harder to create jobs. And the most important regulatory reform is repealing every word of Obamacare, which is just the biggest job killer in this country.

THAT ANSWERS OUR NEXT QUESTION WHICH WAS HEALTH CARE. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE STATE OF EDUCATION AND STUDENT LOANS?
I understand this first-hand....when I came out of college and grad school, I had six-figures in student loans. I just paid off my student loans five or six years ago. Economic growth is critical to young people because if we want this generation to be able to pay off their loans and develop the skills to live the American dream, we've got to return to an environment where small businesses are growing and flourishing, and creating jobs and opportunities. That's my top priority.

CLIMATE CHANGE.
I believe that government policy should follow the evidence and the data....When it comes to global warming, far too much of the debate in Washington is centered around politics rather than the data and the evidence. If you look to the satellite data, it demonstrates that over the past 17 years, there has been no meaningful recorded warming whatsoever. And yet, politicians in Washington are disregarding the evidence and the facts because it is in their political interest to expand government control over the economy. And, to drive up costs for hard-working families across this country.

WOULD YOU CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THE US IS HANDLING THIS WHOLE ISIS THING?
We cannot win a war on radical Islamist terrorists with a president and administration unwilling to utter the words "radical Islamic terrorists"....Right now, the Obama administration refuses to acknowledge what it is we're fighting. And, our policy has been utterly ineffective. Just a few months ago, President Obama dismissed ISIS as, to quote, "Junior Varsity." It turned out his assessment was profoundly wrong. Radical Islamic terrorism is on the rise....And yet the administration persists in what is essentially a photo-op foreign policy — drop a bomb here, a missile there. We need a commander-in-chief who resolves to do what is necessary to keep Americans safe from radical Islamic terrorists who have declared war on America.

GUN CONTROL.
I've just spent virtually my entire life fighting to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights exclusively protects the Second Amendment right to bear arms. The right of law by the citizens to protect their homes, to protect their families. I have also spent much of my adult life in law enforcement. I believe we should go after violent criminals and come down on them like a ton of bricks.

RIGHT TO CHOOSE. YES OR NO?
I believe that women have the right to choose in every aspect of their lives. To choose how to work, how to live, how to achieve the American dream. Now, I also support the right to life of every unborn child. Every girl and boy. And I believe that we should work towards a culture that protects every human life from the moment of conception until the time of natural death.

GAY MARRIAGE. YES OR NO?
It may be that you and I disagree on the policy of marriage. I support traditional marriage as the union between one man and one woman. But under the Constitution, if you disagree with that proposition, there is an avenue for you to advance your policy. Namely, you can try to convince your fellow citizens to change the marriage laws of your states. From the beginning of this country, marriage has always been a question for the states. Now it may well be that the men and women of some states (New York and California) might make one policy decision, and the men and women of other states (like Texas or Florida) make a different policy decision. That's the way our Constitution is supposed to work. Unfortunately, five judges on the Supreme Court decided they didn't care what 320 million Americans thought about the laws that should govern them. That they were going to impose their own extreme policy instead that was contrary to Constitution and fundamentally undermined the rule of law in this country.

WHAT WOULD YOU ASK THE WHITE HOUSE CHEF TO MAKE FOR YOUR FIRST MEAL AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVE?
I had joked that one of the things I would very quickly do is make preparations to have a Christmas Eve pig roast on the south lawn of the White House. The Cuban tradition is to roast a pig for Christmas Eve, and I look forward to doing that.

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HIT SNOOZE IN THE AM?
Typically twice. It is a bad habit I have had my whole life....when I was in college, my college roommates super glued the snooze button down so that I couldn't hit snooze again.

HOW DO YOU TAKE YOUR COFFEE?
With lots of cream, and being Cuban, we often prefer café con leche.


Absolutely outstanding. What a President he would make.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on August 04, 2015, 01:34:17 PM
Absolutely outstanding. What a President he would make.

Yeah, agreed!!   Totally unlike Trump's resume....  :ttoung:

:lol: :lol:


I'm yanking your cord, red!!   :wink:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: walkstall on August 01, 2015, 04:18:26 PM
Two down about 25 to go yet.    :lol:

Yup,still early days.

Right now it's just a circus show.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: kathy s. on August 01, 2015, 06:27:30 PM
That "John Wayne" like Perry is the biggest purveyor of cronyism I've ever seen. I've lived in Texas nearly all my life and it's an ill kept secret he made sure his buddies held the highest offices in the state. In fact, he and his crony David Dewhurst were so sure Dewhurst has the Senate seat wrapped up, they were slow to figure out that Cruz was on the rise, until it was too late.
  Perry is an idiot, weak on illegal immigration, and won't get the Presidency- at least I hope not.

Texas brought us LBK,Perot/Clinton,and the Bush Crime Family.

Enough said.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: quiller on August 02, 2015, 05:30:12 AM
What is YOUR least favorite has a superb chance of winning the GOP nomination.


I grew up on Canadian TV And radio. Go ahead --- define "thinks too Canadian."

As for too feminine? Have you noticed how Hussein the Magnificent tries to throw a baseball? And those REALLY MASCULINE mom jeans Obonzo wears! (*SNORK!*)

HEY! Be more respectful when you talk about Bathhouse Barry!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Texas brought us LBK,Perot/Clinton,and the Bush Crime Family.

Enough said.

Texas did NOT bring you Clinton!  He hailed from Arkansas.  You need to bone up on your politics!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 04, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Texas did NOT bring you Clinton!  He hailed from Arkansas.  You need to bone up on your politics!!  :rolleyes:
I think he is saying Via ross Perot! Remember Perot split the ticket!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 04, 2015, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Texas did NOT bring you Clinton!  He hailed from Arkansas.  You need to bone up on your politics!!  :rolleyes:

:ohmy:  Now we have one more bad state Arkansas.    Let not forget the state of Hawaii also.    :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Texas did NOT bring you Clinton!  He hailed from Arkansas.  You need to bone up on your politics!!  :rolleyes:

Are  you REALLY that ignorant?

PEROT brought us Clinton.

Where was Perot from?

How long have you been involved in politics,anyhow?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
Are  you REALLY that ignorant?

PEROT brought us Clinton.

Where was Perot from?

How long have you been involved in politics,anyhow?

Perot was from Texarkana.  Did you know that?  Half of Texarkana  is in Arkansas and half in Texas.   Most of it is Arkansas and it isn't that far from Hope, Arkansas!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 04, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
I think he is saying Via ross Perot! Remember Perot split the ticket!

EXACTLY! I also haven't forgotten about Perot dropping out of the race when he started polling higher than Clintion,and then jumping back in again when even Bush was topping Clinton in the polls.

Then he dropped out once again using excuses about the CIA and space aliens spying on his family,winding up in the Oval Office a few days after Clinton was sworn in,and signing a contract for EDS (his company) to digitalize ALL the SS records. A contract worth billions. Perot sold the company when the stock went through the roof and pocketed a princely sum out of the deal.

Now,that all MIGHT have been a coincidence,but if you believe that,you will believe anything.

What Perot did was kill the Third Party Movement as a viable political challenger and finalize the pact between the RNC and the DNC to run the country like a kingdom.

Don't worry,though. Unless we are VERY,VERY lucky whatever alleged Republican that wins the beauty contest will end up sitting in the WH. It's their "turn to rule".

I am personally watching Walker and have high hopes for him,but anything can happen between now and election day.

Except for Bubbette! being elected. That ain't going to happen because even the prominent Dims don't trust her and don't want her or Bubba Bill back in the WH again.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: walkstall on August 04, 2015, 03:47:20 PM
:ohmy:  Now we have one more bad state Arkansas.    Let not forget the state of Hawaii also.    :lol:

Absolutely! What has either produced that  has been beneficial to the country? Arkansas produced the traitor and Soviet mole Senator William Fullbright,as well as Bubba Bill. Now The Huckster is running around babbling nonsense.

About all that's even came out of Hawaii that was any good was pineapples. Lots of people there don't even want to be a part of the US.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 04, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 04:35:39 PM
Absolutely! What has either produced that  has been beneficial to the country? Arkansas produced the traitor and Soviet mole Senator William Fullbright,as well as Bubba Bill. Now The Huckster is running around babbling nonsense.

About all that's even came out of Hawaii that was any good was pineapples. Lots of people there don't even want to be a part of the US.

You forgot about the Dole bananas!!

Arkansas' Senator Halfbright was a real loser!  I lived in Arkansas back then and I knew he was toxic.  Bill Clinton worked on Halfbright's campaign and cut his teeth on politics there.   Need I say more?

The Huckster is no better. 

Only Tom Cotton redeems Arkansas' credentials!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
You forgot about the Dole bananas!!

Arkansas' Senator Halfbright was a real loser!  I lived in Arkansas back then and I knew he was toxic.  Bill Clinton worked on Halfbright's campaign and cut his teeth on politics there.   Need I say more?

The Huckster is no better. 

Only Tom Cotton redeems Arkansas' credentials!!

No one should be surprised about Bubba Bill working for Fullbright. After all,Fullbright was his rabbi that got his whore mother a respectable husband and even had the Ark NG create a slot that didn't exist so that Bubba Bill could avoid the draft.

There are a lot of people,including me,that think Fullbright was a Soviet mole.

Do a web search using his name and look at the organizations he lent his name to and created or helped create,and you can see a trend.

Plus,someone in DC was giving the Soviets Top Secret code word intel on US troop activities in VN,Laos,and Cambodia during the VN war,and Fullbright,as the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,received daily briefings on classified military actions. He would be briefed,and within 24 hours the North Vietnamese knew what operations we had planned,and took measures to counter them.

Given that he was also a Rhodes Scholar and went to school at Oxford,it should come as no surprise to anyone that he was a  Soviet mole.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 05, 2015, 04:22:25 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 08:19:24 PM
No one should be surprised about Bubba Bill working for Fullbright. After all,Fullbright was his rabbi that got his whore mother a respectable husband and even had the Ark NG create a slot that didn't exist so that Bubba Bill could avoid the draft.

There are a lot of people,including me,that think Fullbright was a Soviet mole.

Do a web search using his name and look at the organizations he lent his name to and created or helped create,and you can see a trend.

Plus,someone in DC was giving the Soviets Top Secret code word intel on US troop activities in VN,Laos,and Cambodia during the VN war,and Fullbright,as the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,received daily briefings on classified military actions. He would be briefed,and within 24 hours the North Vietnamese knew what operations we had planned,and took measures to counter them.

Given that he was also a Rhodes Scholar and went to school at Oxford,it should come as no surprise to anyone that he was a  Soviet mole.

You may be right on BOTH counts....SOMEBODY arranged Bill Clinton's 'Student' tour of the Soviet union at a time when such a thing was near impossible. Then again how did "poor family Bill" get tuition money for Harvard? Like an aging KGB Agent once said...."you'd be surprised how many Harvard tuitions we paid for"
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 05, 2015, 05:46:55 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 04, 2015, 03:18:21 PM
Texas brought us LBK,Perot/Clinton,and the Bush Crime Family.

Enough said.

Get it straight. It was LBJ, moron.  Perot was not on Clinton's team and therefore you are NOT correct using the slash to imply they were team members. Finally: what crimes by the Bush family? Saddle up and tell us, cowboy. BE SPECIFIC.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 05, 2015, 08:54:16 AM
From one Rhodes Scholar to another:  " I admired him. I liked him. On the occasions when we disagreed, I loved arguing with him. I never loved getting in an argument with anybody as much in my entire life as I loved fighting with Bill Fulbright. I'm quite sure I always lost, and yet he managed to make me think I might have won. "

Huh, Mr. ex-President?  What the hell are you talking about? 

Nobody 'loves' arguing with anybody.  -Except a pandering phoney in-love with their own intellect.  An intellect that then feigns self-depreciation on an occasion when absolutely no perceived risk exists for its exposure of self-infatuation.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 05, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 05, 2015, 08:54:16 AM
Nobody 'loves' arguing with anybody.  -Except a pandering phoney in-love with their own intellect.  An intellect that then feigns self-depreciation on an occasion when absolutely no perceived risk exists for its exposure of self-infatuation.

Alternately, I suggest it's a rare soaring freedom to converse at one's optimum, unfettered by inferior minds. Such discourse sharpens and improves. It encourages higher functioning.

But if ya want us to say we love our own intellects, sure, I'm up for that too!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 05, 2015, 05:46:55 AM
Get it straight. It was LBJ, moron.  Perot was not on Clinton's team and therefore you are NOT correct using the slash to imply they were team members. Finally: what crimes by the Bush family? Saddle up and tell us, cowboy. BE SPECIFIC.

It takes a moron to not be able to recognize a typo,and as for you being mystified about the Perot and Clinton connection as well as the crimes and treason of the Bush Crime Famiiy,calling you a moron would be bragging on  you.

What you are is a Party People Republican,incapable of individual thought.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Nautical Underpants on August 05, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
It takes a moron to not be able to recognize a typo,and as for you being mystified about the Perot and Clinton connection as well as the crimes and treason of the Bush Crime Famiiy,calling you a moron would be bragging on  you.

What you are is a Party People Republican,incapable of individual thought.

Enough with the insults. You are on thin ice.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2015, 11:46:42 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
It takes a moron to not be able to recognize a typo,and as for you being mystified about the Perot and Clinton connection as well as the crimes and treason of the Bush Crime Famiiy,calling you a moron would be bragging on  you.

What you are is a Party People Republican,incapable of individual thought.
Typos are excusable along with ignorance and other human flaws, but...
intentionally failing to put a space, behind a comma, speaks volumes on it's own.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: Nautical Underpants on August 05, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Enough with the insults. You are on thin ice.

And of course the moron that called ME a moron over a typo is also on thin ice,right?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Nautical Underpants on August 05, 2015, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:48:46 AM
And of course the moron that called ME a moron over a typo is also on thin ice,right?

Unlike you 99.9 percent of his posts do not include insults.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 05, 2015, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
It takes a moron to not be able to recognize a typo,and as for you being mystified about the Perot and Clinton connection as well as the crimes and treason of the Bush Crime Famiiy,calling you a moron would be bragging on  you.

What you are is a Party People Republican,incapable of individual thought.


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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Nautical Underpants on August 05, 2015, 11:51:39 AM
Unlike you 99.9 percent of his posts do not include insults.


Seriously? You are going to play that game?

If so,go back and post the percentage of his posts to me that are insulting compared to those that aren't.

If he can't take it he shouldn't be trying to dish it out.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 05, 2015, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 01:22:36 PM

Seriously? You are going to play that game?

If so,go back and post the percentage of his posts to me that are insulting compared to those that aren't.

If he can't take it he shouldn't be trying to dish it out.

Stop crying. Either participate in the discussions or leave.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 06, 2015, 02:10:14 AM
Quote from: Nautical Underpants on August 05, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Enough with the insults. You are on thin ice.

This pimple-popping little puke needs his skull thinned.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 06, 2015, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 01:22:36 PM

Seriously? You are going to play that game?

If so,go back and post the percentage of his posts to me that are insulting compared to those that aren't.

If he can't take it he shouldn't be trying to dish it out.

Take WHAT?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 06, 2015, 02:16:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 05, 2015, 11:52:15 AM
(Quoting the bone-brain....)

It takes a moron to not be able to recognize a typo,and as for you being mystified about the Perot and Clinton connection as well as the crimes and treason of the Bush Crime Famiiy,calling you a moron would be bragging on  you.

What you are is a Party People Republican,incapable of individual thought.

NOT ONCE did he address any reason why he believes the Bush family is a "crime family." This didn't even TRY to answer, it went straight to claiming victory.

What a despicable childish debate tactic.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 06, 2015, 02:22:18 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 05, 2015, 01:22:36 PM

Seriously? You are going to play that game?

If so,go back and post the percentage of his posts to me that are insulting compared to those that aren't.

If he can't take it he shouldn't be trying to dish it out.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 06, 2015, 04:43:47 AM
Okay, back to the Cruz-thread, which is already in-progress...

I think that sneak specifically wanted to derail any Cruz-topic with obsequious blather.


Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 07, 2015, 05:49:59 AM
There was a Cruz-gap in the debate... when he wasn't called-on for about 20-minutes. 

I can't regard it too suspiciously, because Huckabee and Carson had longer gaps.  Even Trump had a sizeable one in the second-hour. 

And Cruz framed McConnell as a liar, which the crowd obviously loved, though he didn't say the word...   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 07, 2015, 05:56:35 AM
Ted is still the Man, he promised to trash can Hussein's xo's the Iran deal and sic the justice dept on PP his first day in office. He kept his cool during the whole process and sounded very articulate...PRESIDENTIAL...while a lot of the others sounded nervous and wimp like or worse..... nasty.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 07, 2015, 06:41:48 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 07, 2015, 05:56:35 AM
Ted is still the Man, he promised to trash can Hussein's xo's the Iran deal and sic the justice dept on PP his first day in office. He kept his cool during the whole process and sounded very articulate...PRESIDENTIAL...while a lot of the others sounded nervous and wimp like or worse..... nasty.

Good point, Billy.

Cruz and Fiorina had very similar body language and handled themselves almost identical......  They were the most precise debaters.  Both appeared very thoughtful and prepared... and polished.  The others had their moments of flailing around the questions...... although Huck and Carson came in at close seconds.

There is a lot of media hype about how well Rubio did.  Hmm.... I must have missed that.

I think Rand's petulance did not help him at all.  His squeaky high pitched voice when he gets angry does not come across very well...... sounds girlie!    His poll numbers will go no higher.

I do get sick of hearing all the Governor's regurgitate their "record" as Govs.  I could probably say it for them..... word for word..... therefore they come across as "canned".   

I know many voters think that Governors are better prepared for the WH role, but I don't buy it.  I think they all have tunnel vision.  They should not be campaigning on their laurels but on their vision for the future of our Country.

It should be noted that Cruz was the ONLY candidate to mention his own honesty!  He promised to do what he says!    And he will.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: zewazir on August 07, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 07, 2015, 06:41:48 AM
I know many voters think that Governors are better prepared for the WH role, but I don't buy it.  I think they all have tunnel vision.  They should not be campaigning on their laurels but on their vision for the future of our Country.
OTOH, it is far better to judge whom to vote for according to actual accomplishments as opposed to high sounding promises. Political promises and visions tend to be broken the second the voting booths close.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 07, 2015, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: zewazir on August 07, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
OTOH, it is far better to judge whom to vote for according to actual accomplishments as opposed to high sounding promises. Political promises and visions tend to be broken the second the voting booths close.

I get your point, but their "canned" spin on their accomplishments leave out a lot of important details that are uncomfortable.. and inconvenient to their narratives.  And no one challenges their "facts".  That irritates me. 

The moderators did not challenge them but at least Rand Paul put Christie in his place!

I would have liked to have seen more banter between the candidates.  THEY know each others vulnerabilities but were unwilling (for the most part) to bring those to light in the debate.  Every Governor candidate has baggage that goes unexposed.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 07, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: zewazir on August 07, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
OTOH, it is far better to judge whom to vote for according to actual accomplishments as opposed to high sounding promises. Political promises and visions tend to be broken the second the voting booths close.

I would like to sit there with a counter and rate the comments as to whether they seemed from the heart (+1) or from the script, (-1.)
Then compare the results with the judgement of the viewers as to who won.
We would all have our differences of opinion and perception on this.

I think the big loser in the debate was Megyn Kelly. Whuddabich!
(I bet she wont be back for #2. The Donald fired her a--. Good.)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 08, 2015, 06:07:11 PM
Cruz lighting them up in Georgia.  Current tour drawing large and enthusiastic turnouts:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/630180250199171072/video/1
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 09, 2015, 04:20:22 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on August 08, 2015, 06:07:11 PM
Cruz lighting them up in Georgia.  Current tour drawing large and enthusiastic turnouts:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/630180250199171072/video/1

hhmmm...... that was "revealing".....   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 11, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
Ted Cruz bus tour......

https://youtu.be/ajqkx02wijY
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 11, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Fox News Online.....

CLUB FOR GROWTH PICKS FAVE FIVE
WSJ: "The five candidates for which the Club will officially bundle campaign contributions are: Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a leading contender for the nomination who has struggled to gain traction with some conservatives."



Some history on "Club for Growth"...

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000763
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 11, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 11, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Fox News Online.....

CLUB FOR GROWTH PICKS FAVE FIVE
WSJ: "The five candidates for which the Club will officially bundle campaign contributions are: Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a leading contender for the nomination who has struggled to gain traction with some conservatives."



Some history on "Club for Growth"...

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000763
CFG started out as an excellent group, then the Establishment infested them, and CFG claims they purged them of all the RINO, but if you look at their list of supported candidates, look who's at the top of the list. :cursing:

These PACs are pure BS, they are there to line their own pockets.

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/recips.php?cmte=Club+for+Growth&cycle=2014
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 11, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 11, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
CFG started out as an excellent group, then the Establishment infested them, and CFG claims they purged them of all the RINO, but if you look at their list of supported candidates, look who's at the top of the list. :cursing:

These PACs are pure BS, they are there to line their own pockets.

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/recips.php?cmte=Club+for+Growth&cycle=2014

I did look at who they supported and Tom Cotton topped the list..   I was impressed by that! 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 11, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 11, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
I did look at who they supported and Tom Cotton topped the list..   I was impressed by that!
Look at my link. It has the full list.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 17, 2015, 09:58:46 AM
Cruz tour heads to Jackson Hole this week, then to Des Moines Aug 21, 2015 for religious liberty rally. So much for the propaganda that religious community is a drag on the GOP anchor.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 18, 2015, 05:20:12 AM
Cruz just can't be tripped up.  He dodges reporter's childish gotcha and bitch slaps Hussein and Kerry at the same time.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/17/ted-cruz-laughs-at-reporters-iran-question-then-responds-bluntly-if-theres-one-principle-that-history-has-taught-us/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 18, 2015, 05:37:23 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 18, 2015, 05:20:12 AM
Cruz just can't be tripped up.  He dodges reporter's childish gotcha and bitch slaps Hussein and Kerry at the same time.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/17/ted-cruz-laughs-at-reporters-iran-question-then-responds-bluntly-if-theres-one-principle-that-history-has-taught-us/

Yeah, Cruz's message is always spot on. 

Right now it is difficult to be heard above the roar taking place in the Trump camp.  I liken it to a manifestation of America screaming at D.C. pinheads.  It is the shear volume that gets their attention.  Voters are getting behind Trump because he is confronting D.C.

Why aren't others getting his traction?  I wonder if the deep pocketed donors aren't trying to keep other candidates in check?  Cruz is not mincing his words and that is why he has continued to rise in the polls.  Right now it is Trump, Carson and Cruz that lead the polls.  None of these guys are supported by D.C. insiders.  That is their strength!!!  America is rising up against D.C.

But when it boils down to election day, which one can the voter actual trust based upon their actions?  Cruz
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 18, 2015, 05:41:24 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 05:37:23 AM
Yeah, Cruz's message is always spot on. 

Right now it is difficult to be heard above the roar taking place in the Trump camp.  I liken it to a manifestation of America screaming at D.C. pinheads.  It is the shear volume that gets their attention.  Voters are getting behind Trump because he is confronting D.C.

Why aren't others getting his traction?  I wonder if the deep pocketed donors aren't trying to keep other candidates in check?  Cruz is not mincing his words and that is why he has continued to rise in the polls.  Right now it is Trump, Carson and Cruz that lead the polls.  None of these guys are supported by D.C. insiders.  That is their strength!!!  America is rising up against D.C.

But when it boils down to election day, which one can the voter actual trust based upon their actions?  Cruz

I'm in the camp that thinks Trump is good for Cruz.  He doesn't _take_ anything from Cruz like he (Trump) does to Walker or the others.  Trump's wake is drowning out the others.  Cruz continue to gains support.  I hope Trump can keep it going as long as possible, because the others are suffocating and have to try and adjust.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 18, 2015, 05:50:23 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 18, 2015, 05:41:24 AM
I'm in the camp that thinks Trump is good for Cruz.  He doesn't _take_ anything from Cruz like he (Trump) does to Walker or the others.  Trump's wake is drowning out the others.  Cruz continue to gains support.  I hope Trump can keep it going as long as possible, because the others are suffocating and have to try and adjust.

I agree..... as long as Trump does eventually flame out.

But I am not convinced at this point that it will happen because his momentum is growing so fast.... and the American voters are SO angry with all the political pundits and D.C.

Trump is the ANGER candidate!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 18, 2015, 05:59:09 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 05:50:23 AM
I agree..... as long as Trump does eventually flame out.

But I am not convinced at this point that it will happen because his momentum is growing so fast.... and the American voters are SO angry with all the political pundits and D.C.

Trump is the ANGER candidate!

I hear that, but I don't think it's about anger.  I mean, yes, some, but I think it's because he connects with people that America is the best, and we should be the best.  He stirs up our patriotism.  Everyone is tired of having a wimpy Marxist go apologize to the world, bowing down, and selling us out.  When people hear that someone can undo all that, it's a huge wakeup.  He just happens to have the name identity to generate that wave.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2015, 06:05:33 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 05:50:23 AM
I agree..... as long as Trump does eventually flame out.

But I am not convinced at this point that it will happen because his momentum is growing so fast.... and the American voters are SO angry with all the political pundits and D.C.

Trump is the ANGER candidate!

Think of Trump like a bubblegum pophit, fun to listen to, has a good beat to tap your feet to, but unless he changes up his rhetoric, this group of LIV's won't buy his next release.
His supporters are sadly an ignorant angry group that thrive on emotion, but even they tire of the same day in and day out rhetoric.

I agree, Trump will flame out, and this is where Cruz shines, he is so sharp and articulate, every time he speaks, his poll numbers grow, while Trumps either stagnate or continue to fall, yeah they've peaked, his base isn't growing, and we all know what that means...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 18, 2015, 06:48:02 AM
I'd be willing to bet that Trump has more than a few supporters among the Dems, I would bet that Unions would support him as well.....Trump or Trumps people have to negotiate with the Unions all the time...especially the mob controlled unions in NEw York and New Jersey....how else you think he built all those casino's. :wink:

So spreading his vast wealth around to Union bosses would be one way to buy a lot of votes. Or by calling in old favors.

You know, the more I hear Trump and look at him the more I am convinced he is like an old time Democrat, before the marxist party of Progressive liberals hijacked the party. I've always said they were more conservative than most of today's Republicans.

The other thing he has going for him is he really does like America and wants us to be on top again, its for his own personal gain but still it is refreshing from the American hating leftist freaks.

That said, Ted is still head and shoulders above The Traveling circus that is "The Donald".
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 18, 2015, 07:07:17 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 18, 2015, 06:48:02 AM
I'd be willing to bet that Trump has more than a few supporters among the Dems, I would bet that Unions would support him as well.....Trump or Trumps people have to negotiate with the Unions all the time...especially the mob controlled unions in NEw York and New Jersey....how else you think he built all those casino's. :wink:

So spreading his vast wealth around to Union bosses would be one way to buy a lot of votes. Or by calling in old favors.

You know, the more I hear Trump and look at him the more I am convinced he is like an old time Democrat, before the marxist party of Progressive liberals hijacked the party. I've always said they were more conservative than most of today's Republicans.

The other thing he has going for him is he really does like America and wants us to be on top again, its for his own personal gain but still it is refreshing from the American hating leftist freaks.

That said, Ted is still head and shoulders above The Traveling circus that is "The Donald".

How far back is "old time," here? Scoop Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan old time, or do we go back even earlier? When do you think the Marxists took over the Democratic Party? That's one I can't pin down no matter how hard I try.  :unsure:

He's not The Donald. He's The Hairport.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 18, 2015, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 18, 2015, 07:07:17 AM
How far back is "old time," here? Scoop Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan old time, or do we go back even earlier? When do you think the Marxists took over the Democratic Party? That's one I can't pin down no matter how hard I try.  :unsure:

He's not The Donald. He's The Hairport.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
How the hell can Bush and Rubio be ahead of Cruz? What's wrong with these people? :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on August 18, 2015, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
How the hell can Bush and Rubio be ahead of Cruz? What's wrong with these people? :lol:

Don't forget we have voters who are also RINO's. Conservatives scare them. Also, there are many who are not yet engaged and not really familiar with Cruz. It is a marathon, not a sprint.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
I hope and pray for the sake of our Republic that's right sups, and these sheeple don't elect another Bush or Clinton to our W.H.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 18, 2015, 01:55:55 PM
Quote from: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
I hope and pray for the sake of our Republic that's right sups, and these sheeple don't elect another Bush or Clinton to our W.H.

Bush won't win. Neither will Hillary. Not a chance. Those polls reflect nothing but name recognition. Trump IS hitting all the right issues though. He does have a good chance, and if he's serious about THIS issue, it would be worth it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 18, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
If you go to Breitbart's site you are forced to register your vote before going to the homepage.

Interestingly, when I voted .... the results were this....

Cruz  35%

Trump 30%

Carson, Fiorina and Walker were the next three at around 5-6%

:ohmy:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 18, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: quiller on August 18, 2015, 07:07:17 AM
How far back is "old time," here? Scoop Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan old time, or do we go back even earlier? When do you think the Marxists took over the Democratic Party? That's one I can't pin down no matter how hard I try.  :unsure:

He's not The Donald. He's The Hairport.

quiller strikes again..... :thumbsup:

Humphrey might have been the last of the old time democrats. Maybe Muskie who had the reputation of being plain stupid.

I think Johnson pushed a lot of Democrats (Like My Father, Mother, Uncles and Aunt's) to Vote Republican party whom they hated due to them being Union people. They all voted Nixon. Mainly because they were Fed up with LBJ whom my Dad Called Lame Brain Johnson.

I would say the defining year was 1972 election, Vietnam war still raging, anti war movement fuel by KGB and Red China cash and political subtrefuge.... look who they ran....McGovern on the Anti War ticket. He had a hard time finding any of the aforementioned Humphrey, Muskie or even Ted (I can't swim) Kennedy  for VP....I think they knew what a radical he was....so he gets this guy Eagleton who was probably a moderate but found to have been in some sort of mental insitution.

Anyhow...a little tidbit....Bill and Hillary were involve din that campaign for McGovern....Nuff said.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 18, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
If you go to Breitbart's site you are forced to register your vote before going to the homepage.

Interestingly, when I voted .... the results were this....

Cruz  35%

Trump 30%

Carson, Fiorina and Walker were the next three at around 5-6%

:ohmy:
Breitbart's is a conservative site and you would expect the numbers to run with a heavy conservative slant! What gets me is Why is Trump so high in their poll?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 04:54:51 PM
Breitbart's is a conservative site and you would expect the numbers to run with a heavy conservative slant! What gets me is Why is Trump so high in their poll?
Ugggh I know what you mean. Just read the comments section in Discuss, it's packed full of LIV, so called Conservatives.
I read these all the time and I'm amazed at the amount of ignorance in many of them. They come off as pissed off libs, and may very well be newly reformed libs.
By the way, Breitbart's site is turning just a wee bit RINO since his death.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
Ugggh I know what you mean. Just read the comments section in Discuss, it's packed full of LIV, so called Conservatives.
I read these all the time and I'm amazed at the amount of ignorance in many of them. They come off as pissed off libs, and may very well be newly reformed libs.
By the way, Breitbart's site is turning just a wee bit RINO since his death.
Solar I remember the summer of the Tea Party 2010 and even went to a tea party rally with my elderly parents in western North Carolina! The thing I remember most is it wasn't all "Conservatives" The Tea was made up with a cross section of pissed off Americans that had enough of no representation. The Tea at that time impressed me as a real cross section of voters including some democrats. The membership of the Tea seems to me to be more conservative as others dropped out. Which is not negative to a conservative like myself, but could what we are seeing with this Trump thing be the same type of had "enough" grass root uprising that the Tea grew out of? If it is it could be a train that can't be stopped!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
Solar I remember the summer of the Tea Party 2010 and even went to a tea party rally with my elderly parents in western North Carolina! The thing I remember most is it wasn't all "Conservatives" The Tea was made up with a cross section of pissed off Americans that had enough of no representation. The Tea at that time impressed me as a real cross section of voters including some democrats. The membership of the Tea seems to me to be more conservative as others dropped out. Which is not negative to a conservative like myself, but could what we are seeing with this Trump thing be the same type of had "enough" grass root uprising that the Tea grew out of? If it is it could be a train that can't be stopped!
I agree, that's exactly what you're seeing, except now it's not TEA or Conservatives backing Trump, just the rest, the pissed off LIV and libs, which is why his numbers have pretty much stagnated.
If the base actually got behind him, there'd be no stopping him, but the base is staying with Cruz.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
I agree, that's exactly what you're seeing, except now it's not TEA or Conservatives backing Trump, just the rest, the pissed off LIV and libs, which is why his numbers have pretty much stagnated.
If the base actually got behind him, there'd be no stopping him, but the base is staying with Cruz.
There are a lot of Conservatives backing Trump right now and it would seem to me that the old tea organizations should pull out their old contact lists and try to bring these people back to the fold! What you said is a double edge sword! If the core Tea party supported Trump he would be unstoppable but on the other hand if the Tea regrouped with their old members to support Cruz He too could be unstoppable! By your own admission the old tea and the conservatives are split!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
There are a lot of Conservatives backing Trump right now and it would seem to me that the old tea organizations should pull out their old contact lists and try to bring these people back to the fold! What you said is a double edge sword! If the core Tea party supported Trump he would be unstoppable but on the other hand if the Tea regrouped with their old members to support Cruz He too could be unstoppable! By your own admission the old tea and the conservatives are split!
No, Conservatives aren't necessarily supporting Trump, they/we support his message, there's a huge difference.
Trump is not in it for the long haul and he knew it before he started, just like the other two times he did this. Trumps in it for Trump, he loves the admiration, he loves pissing people off, he loves the challenge, but he's proven time and time again, he's no Conservative, he's an opportunist.

Cruz on the other hand IS in it for the long haul and he's playing it perfectly, he continues to gain new support every time he speaks.
I don't know why you can't see it, but the LSM is propping Trump up, they have yet to hit him with any serious questions about his past, simply because they don't want to damage him yet.
Trump has yet to be vetted properly, while Cruz has already been through the wringer, since he's the most hated and feared by the GOPe.

Point is, at some point Trump will no longer be useful to the left, and those left standing, most likely Cruz, will continue to capture headlines and win the final election.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
No, Conservatives aren't necessarily supporting Trump, they/we support his message, there's a huge difference.
Trump is not in it for the long haul and he knew it before he started, just like the other two times he did this. Trumps in it for Trump, he loves the admiration, he loves pissing people off, he loves the challenge, but he's proven time and time again, he's no Conservative, he's an opportunist.

Cruz on the other hand IS in it for the long haul and he's playing it perfectly, he continues to gain new support every time he speaks.
I don't know why you can't see it, but the LSM is propping Trump up, they have yet to hit him with any serious questions about his past, simply because they don't want to damage him yet.
Trump has yet to be vetted properly, while Cruz has already been through the wringer, since he's the most hated and feared by the GOPe.

Point is, at some point Trump will no longer be useful to the left, and those left standing, most likely Cruz, will continue to capture headlines and win the final election.

"I don't know why you can't see it"? I've been posting that I don't believe he is in it for the long haul and why for quite a long time! I am not a Trump supporter but I find his run amazing! Never seen anything like it! The MSM has not been holding him up they have torn him down at every opportunity! I believe the only reason they are giving him extra air time now is they are sure he will make a blunder they can use against him. "Give him enough rope"!

After watching the talking heads on Sunday, Cruz isn't the most feared Trump is! They can't stop talking about him! George Will was down right nasty in his trump remarks as was Rove! Trump must really terrify these guys! They act like their jobs on the line!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice. :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 19, 2015, 03:05:49 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 18, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
quiller strikes again..... :thumbsup:
Too bad I can't go back into that post and add a ™ to it. My contribution to 2016 politics.....

QuoteHumphrey might have been the last of the old time democrats. Maybe Muskie who had the reputation of being plain stupid.

I think Johnson pushed a lot of Democrats (Like My Father, Mother, Uncles and Aunt's) to Vote Republican party whom they hated due to them being Union people. They all voted Nixon. Mainly because they were Fed up with LBJ whom my Dad Called Lame Brain Johnson.

I would say the defining year was 1972 election, Vietnam war still raging, anti war movement fuel by KGB and Red China cash and political subtrefuge.... look who they ran....McGovern on the Anti War ticket. He had a hard time finding any of the aforementioned Humphrey, Muskie or even Ted (I can't swim) Kennedy  for VP....I think they knew what a radical he was....so he gets this guy Eagleton who was probably a moderate but found to have been in some sort of mental insitution.

Anyhow...a little tidbit....Bill and Hillary were involve din that campaign for McGovern....Nuff said.
I was with the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club in 1972. What a bunch of politicians were doing back home somehow just wasn't as important as avoiding getting sunk.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 19, 2015, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice. :lol:

Have you read the info in the Carly thread here?  I was shocked by her marxist connection.... among other things.   :ohmy:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 19, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
Quote from: daidalos on August 18, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice. :lol:

You may be "saddled" with Trump, put Hillary won't make it thru the primary process. She ain't Bill.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2015, 05:21:24 AM
Quote from: redbeard on August 18, 2015, 08:15:54 PM
"I don't know why you can't see it"? I've been posting that I don't believe he is in it for the long haul and why for quite a long time! I am not a Trump supporter but I find his run amazing! Never seen anything like it! The MSM has not been holding him up they have torn him down at every opportunity! I believe the only reason they are giving him extra air time now is they are sure he will make a blunder they can use against him. "Give him enough rope"!

After watching the talking heads on Sunday, Cruz isn't the most feared Trump is! They can't stop talking about him! George Will was down right nasty in his trump remarks as was Rove! Trump must really terrify these guys! They act like their jobs on the line!
My bad, I always mix you and Red-Dirt up.
However, the leftist media is propping up Trump, it's FOX that's in for a Jeb/Hitlery ticket and despises Trump.
Both sides are playing a game of cat and mouse with the guy, leftists sticking it to FOX by keeping trump front and center and pissing off the GOP.
If the media wanted to, they could kill Trump's candidacy in a week with with a barrage of hit pieces, and everyone based in truth.
Trump is a walking baggage terminal full of skeletons, from supporting Marxist causes and leftist candidates, running as a Dim, donor to the Klinton Foundation and the list goes on and on and on, but the media has yet to touch any of that, because at the moment he's a leftist tool, an Useful Idiot.
And no, the Establishment doesn't fear Trump, he pisses them off, and that's just as good. It's Cruz that they're most worried about, and his lying below the radar, gaining popularity every time he speaks is an indicator that he is on the level of another Reagan, and that's what has the GOP worried more than anything, because he connects with the base on a Statesman's level.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 19, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
QuoteTed Cruz Comes Out Against 'Birthright Citizenship'

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Wednesday that the United States shouldn't automatically grant citizenship to children of immigrants in the country illegally.

The Texas senator is the latest White House hopeful to weigh in the debate that has divided the GOP 2016 presidential class since billionaire businessman Donald Trump outlined his opposition to "birthright citizenship" as part of his immigration plan earlier in the week.

Cruz said he "absolutely" favors ending automatic citizenship to those born in the country, as guaranteed in the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

"We should end granting automatic birthright citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally," Cruz said in a Wednesday radio interview with the Michael Medved Show.

"That has been my position from my very first days of my running for the Senate," he continued. "I welcome Donald Trump articulating this this view. It's a view I have long held."

The "birthright citizenship" debate has exposed a new rift among the GOP's large presidential field, highlighting the eagerness of some conservatives to tap into Trump's share of the electorate.

More @
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-GOP-2016-Cruz/2015/08/19/id/670911/#ixzz3jJ4AZL00

This is a great wedge issue that is really splitting the field!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 19, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
This is a great wedge issue that is really splitting the field!
That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad? :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 19, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad? :lol:

His position is only to stop birthright for those who are here "illegally".  There are still non citizens here legally.... on work visas, travel visas, education visas, etc.  It is just the illegals that he is wanting to stop.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 19, 2015, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad? :lol:
QuoteThe "birthright citizenship" debate has exposed a new rift among the GOP's large presidential field, highlighting the eagerness of some conservatives to tap into Trump's share of the electorate.

Several candidates have spoken in favor of leaving the constitutional protection in place since Trump outlined his immigration plan earlier in the week, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former technology executive Carly Fiorina, and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Another group of Republicans, like Cruz and Trump, are calling for the Constitution to be changed to remove the incentive for immigrants who enter the country illegally to have children. Those opposed include Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who reversed his position in April on allowing a chance for legal status for those in the country illegally, gave mixed answers this week when asked about ending birthright citizenship.


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-GOP-2016-Cruz/2015/08/19/id/670911/#ixzz3jJBZB9uT

This wishy washy on stance will hurt Walker! I've liked him but he dropped a couple point in my book by not being a man and stand for what is right!
Cruz and Trump both are out front on this issue but it will be a tough one to accomplish because it will require the 14th amendment to be revised. That is a high threshold!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 19, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
Does anybody else vet the feeling we are on the verge of making some great and long needed changes?

I wish/hope these politicians understand WHERE the American people are on these issues. A couple on our side get it. Most are fighting us. Trump IS one who gets it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2015, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 19, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
His position is only to stop birthright for those who are here "illegally".  There are still non citizens here legally.... on work visas, travel visas, education visas, etc.  It is just the illegals that he is wanting to stop.
OK...
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 19, 2015, 05:02:05 PM

This wishy washy on stance will hurt Walker! I've liked him but he dropped a couple point in my book by not being a man and stand for what is right!
Cruz and Trump both are out front on this issue but it will be a tough one to accomplish because it will require the 14th amendment to be revised. That is a high threshold!
Yep, Walker's RINO is showing, he better zip up his pants. :laugh:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 19, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
Does anybody else vet the feeling we are on the verge of making some great and long needed changes?

I wish/hope these politicians understand WHERE the American people are on these issues. A couple on our side get it. Most are fighting us. Trump IS one who gets it.
I agree. The media and Establishment are fighting hard against reality, but ignoring the pissed off elephant in the room holding a nuke isn't one of their smarter moves.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 19, 2015, 05:33:57 PM
This is why I don't think any of the rinos will break thru this time. People do seem to be waking up.

IF we get a president willing to fix the INVASION problem, refund PP, and fix healthcare the RIGHT way, the problems we have today could turn around overnight.

I'm finally feeling good about the last year of the Communist's term.  It will be bad for the DEMOCRATS -- And hopefully the Republican Establishment.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 19, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
RINOS will always break through. From an infrastructure standpoint the establishment still has the advantage. But they no longer have the candidate. Jeb is their candidate and he is not going to be the nominee. Whether you like them or not Trump, Cruz, Fiorina and yes Rubio are outside the establishment. This is a good thing. The GOP establishment is shrinking rapidly.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on August 20, 2015, 04:55:45 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 19, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
RINOS will always break through. From an infrastructure standpoint the establishment still has the advantage. But they no longer have the candidate. Jeb is their candidate and he is not going to be the nominee. Whether you like them or not Trump, Cruz, Fiorina and yes Rubio are outside the establishment. This is a good thing. The GOP establishment is shrinking rapidly.

Some good points about the establishment. They have lost control and that is good.

Also, this thread confirms the value of Trump. He was not afraid to broach the subject of anchor babies. Cruz is the first other candidate to recognize Trump's theme played well and he "came out" for lack of a better word. Will others follow?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 20, 2015, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 20, 2015, 04:55:45 AM
Some good points about the establishment. They have lost control and that is good.

Also, this thread confirms the value of Trump. He was not afraid to broach the subject of anchor babies. Cruz is the first other candidate to recognize Trump's theme played well and he "came out" for lack of a better word. Will others follow?
Maybe Carson, but Walker will still be playing in the weeds trying to grasp the concept of illegal while attempting to avoid insulting anyone.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 20, 2015, 05:55:01 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 20, 2015, 04:55:45 AM
Some good points about the establishment. They have lost control and that is good.

The GOP has gradually become a network of people, not ideas, policies, or principles. That, for example, explains why the Montana GOP, within recent years, was able, as it was,  to get away with excluding the legal US Senate nominee from addressing the state party convention, relegating him to a small reception room. His offense was beating an unpopular GOP nominee, the party favorite. That was Baucus versus Kelliher and none gave it a second thought. One small, but telling, example.

So, when we discuss control, we are not talking about issues of prevalent policies, but rather, individual names and the associated power of each. Pecking order power.The situation on the other side of the aisle is even worse.










Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 20, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on August 20, 2015, 05:55:01 AM
The GOP has gradually become a network of people, not ideas, policies, or principles. That, for example, explains why the Montana GOP, within recent years, was able, as it was,  to get away with excluding the legal US Senate nominee from addressing the state party convention, relegating him to a small reception room. His offense was beating an unpopular GOP nominee, the party favorite. That was Baucus versus Kelliher and none gave it a second thought. One small, but telling, example.

So, when we discuss control, we are not talking about issues of prevalent policies, but rather, of individual names and the associated power of each. Pecking order power.
The situation on the other side of the aisle is even worse.

Excellent point, red!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 20, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
Just heard Glenn Beck say Cruz will be on his program tomorrow.

Beck says he thinks Cruz will be the guy. He's raised more than all except Bush and is waiting until closer to the election.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 20, 2015, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: carlb on August 20, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
Just heard Glenn Beck say Cruz will be on his program tomorrow.

Beck says he thinks Cruz will be the guy. He's raised more than all except Bush and is waiting until closer to the election.

YEA!!!!!    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on August 20, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 09:09:26 AM
YEA!!!!!    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I've been waiting on more positive news about Cruz.  I was beginning to think of the GOP as schoolmates and Trump was their professor!    :glare:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 20, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Cruz is shrewd.  He will play his cards well!   :wink:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on August 20, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Cruz is shrewd.  He will play his cards well!   :wink:

Oh, I've had that feeling about Cruz from the start.  He's never backed up on anything he was talking about either.  He is a very well spoken person, knows his stuff and I don't think we'd get a more honorable person as our President.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 20, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 20, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
Just heard Glenn Beck say Cruz will be on his program tomorrow.

Beck says he thinks Cruz will be the guy. He's raised more than all except Bush and is waiting until closer to the election.
I saw a report that said over half of Jebs money is old time Bush supporters!
I also heard on fox this morning that Jeb and Rubio's support in Florida is falling. Trump beats them both in the sunshine state! That is very bad news for them if they are losing ground in their home state!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 20, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
I saw a report that said over half of Jebs money is old time Bush supporters!
I also heard on fox this morning that Jeb and Rubio's support in Florida is falling. Trump beats them both in the sunshine state! That is very bad news for them if they are losing ground in their home state!

Same has happened to Cruz in Texas....    :sad:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 20, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:13:49 PM
Same has happened to Cruz in Texas....    :sad:
What's happening in Texas? I can't believe Perry is killing him there! Is it Trump?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: redbeard on August 20, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
What's happening in Texas? I can't believe Perry is killing him there! Is it Trump?

It is certainly not  Perry.  It is Trump!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 20, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
It is certainly not  Perry.  It is Trump!

I do think the debates will change that. Trump isn't a good debater, and his "principles" are miles wide and inches deep. I do not think he cancwin the nomination, but I thank God he's bringing certain issues to life. None of this would happen if he wasn't in the race.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 20, 2015, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 20, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
I do think the debates will change that. Trump isn't a good debater, and his "principles" are miles wide and inches deep. I do not think he cancwin the nomination, but I thank God he's bringing certain issues to life. None of this would happen if he wasn't in the race.
I'm not so sure! Trump owns some of these issues now and that is a driving force! A good debater can help but it is not enough by it's self! Ted Cruz is one of the smartest in the field and he needs to find his own solid message. It's what makes you shine!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 20, 2015, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 20, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
I do think the debates will change that. Trump isn't a good debater, and his "principles" are miles wide and inches deep. I do not think he cancwin the nomination, but I thank God he's bringing certain issues to life. None of this would happen if he wasn't in the race.
Great analogy! Essentially paper thin, and just as malleable.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 20, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
We just need to give Trump all the room he needs. He will probably implode in the long run. I ignore his polls and look at how the others are doing. Cruz is slowly but steadily rising. That makes more sense. That is more in line with the countries mood.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: daidalos on August 20, 2015, 09:25:18 PM
For not being such a great debater, why was is it that he was widely seen as having won the first debate...despite his row with Megyn Kelly at that...go figure.  :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 21, 2015, 03:56:34 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 20, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
We just need to give Trump all the room he needs. He will probably implode in the long run. I ignore his polls and look at how the others are doing. Cruz is slowly but steadily rising. That makes more sense. That is more in line with the countries mood.
He's our Bernie Sander's. He's peaked at 30% support, he can only get whites to support him and relies on the media to get out his message.
I don't make this stuff up. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 21, 2015, 04:52:31 AM
Quote from: daidalos on August 20, 2015, 09:25:18 PM
For not being such a great debater, why was is it that he was widely seen as having won the first debate...despite his row with Megyn Kelly at that...go figure.  :lol:


I find the winner will be entirely in the eye of the beholder.  Not the MSM.    I see Trump is a Wild card not a politician.  He is saying what should have been said for the 50+ years.  Trump has nothing to lose and everything to gain IF he can pull it off. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 21, 2015, 04:54:04 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 20, 2015, 05:13:49 PM
Same has happened to Cruz in Texas....    :sad:
Yeah, I saw that bogus CNN/ORC Poll, it's pure unadulterated pasteurized, filtered shit, and still they couldn't mask the stench, 30 minutes I'll never get back.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/08/17/rel8a.-.gop.2016.pdf
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 21, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
Quote from: daidalos on August 20, 2015, 09:25:18 PM
For not being such a great debater, why was is it that he was widely seen as having won the first debate...despite his row with Megyn Kelly at that...go figure.  :lol:

Because it was clear HE was the target. He held his own. Nothing stunning, he just held his own. He had the sympathy of a lot of us. The questions were DISHONEST.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 21, 2015, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: carlb on August 21, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
Because it was clear HE was the target. He held his own. Nothing stunning, he just held his own. He had the sympathy of a lot of us. The questions were DISHONEST.

How were they dishonest?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 21, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
No matter what the attendance in Mobile tonight will be, Cruz will plow forward.  A good percentage of Trump's crowd will be Cruz-supporters... being part of something bigger than a 'townhall'.

I sense that he benefits from the massive anti-obama/hillary sentiment, even if he isn't speaking.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 21, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 21, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
No matter what the attendance in Mobile tonight will be, Cruz will plow forward.  A good percentage of Trump's crowd will be Cruz-supporters... being part of something bigger than a 'townhall'.
I sense that he benefits from the massive anti-obama/hillary sentiment, even if he isn't speaking.

Cruz in Des Moines for Religious Liberty Conference. Huge success. Look for more of these.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 22, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 21, 2015, 10:47:02 AM
How were they dishonest?

This was covered in another thread.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 22, 2015, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: carlb on August 22, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
This was covered in another thread.
Gee, Carl, I missed that one. Care to link it for us?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 22, 2015, 05:41:41 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 22, 2015, 05:16:59 AM
Gee, Carl, I missed that one. Care to link it for us?

I'll teach you to fish. Search the forum for megyn kelly
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 22, 2015, 05:45:49 AM
Quote from: carlb on August 22, 2015, 05:41:41 AM
I'll teach you to fish. Search the forum for megyn kelly
Both Boo and myself asked you for things you evade answering. What's up, Carl? Afraid to back your own statements here?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 22, 2015, 05:46:40 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 21, 2015, 10:47:02 AM
How were they dishonest?
Good question!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 22, 2015, 05:34:09 PM
Cruz outshines Bush at Americans for Prosperity summit



COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was the hands-down favorite of the Americans for Prosperity annual summit in Columbus, Ohio, this weekend, if the number and volume of ovations during the speeches of five presidential candidates who addressed the annual convention of tea party activists was the measure.

At the other end of the spectrum was former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a newcomer to events financed by conservative industrialists Charles and David Koch. Bush was attending his first national conference of Americans for Prosperity and was greeted with respectful but restrained applause by a group that rose essentially out of Republican dissatisfaction with federal spending under his brother, former President George W. Bush.

Cruz, a tea party favorite since his 2012 election, sparked deafening cheers in the Columbus Convention Center auditorium even before he took the stage, entering to the 1980s power anthem "Eye of the Tiger." During his speech Saturday, he went on to promise to "repeal every word of Obamacare," and" rip to shreds this catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal."

Each of Cruz's lines was met with applause and cheers from the more than 3,000 activists. Bush, who spoke a day earlier, earned far fewer cheers, and mostly polite applause, from the anti-tax, economic conservative audience from around the country.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150822/us-gop-2016-koch-brothers-cdab645e4c.html

Koch brothers have got to be impressed with Cruz!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 22, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 22, 2015, 05:34:09 PM
Cruz outshines Bush at Americans for Prosperity summit



COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was the hands-down favorite of the Americans for Prosperity annual summit in Columbus, Ohio, this weekend, if the number and volume of ovations during the speeches of five presidential candidates who addressed the annual convention of tea party activists was the measure.

At the other end of the spectrum was former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, a newcomer to events financed by conservative industrialists Charles and David Koch. Bush was attending his first national conference of Americans for Prosperity and was greeted with respectful but restrained applause by a group that rose essentially out of Republican dissatisfaction with federal spending under his brother, former President George W. Bush.

Cruz, a tea party favorite since his 2012 election, sparked deafening cheers in the Columbus Convention Center auditorium even before he took the stage, entering to the 1980s power anthem "Eye of the Tiger." During his speech Saturday, he went on to promise to "repeal every word of Obamacare," and" rip to shreds this catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal."

Each of Cruz's lines was met with applause and cheers from the more than 3,000 activists. Bush, who spoke a day earlier, earned far fewer cheers, and mostly polite applause, from the anti-tax, economic conservative audience from around the country.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150822/us-gop-2016-koch-brothers-cdab645e4c.html

Koch brothers have got to be impressed with Cruz!
They say every time a bell rings, an Angel gets it's wings, but every time Cruz speaks, he gains another 10 thousand plus followers. :cool:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Ulsterking on August 22, 2015, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
They say every time a bell rings, an Angel gets it's wings, but every time Cruz speaks, he gains another 10 thousand plus followers. :cool:
He knows what to say, how to say it, and most importantly, has on record the proven political will to back it up. Id feel greedy for asking much more myself.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 22, 2015, 07:11:19 PM
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 22, 2015, 07:06:33 PM
He knows what to say, how to say it, and most importantly, has on record the proven political will to back it up. Id feel greedy for asking much more myself.
:thumbup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 23, 2015, 12:20:58 AM
Well Cruz did just school a Hollywood lesbian while eating a sandwich.

Too cool for school.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 23, 2015, 01:39:08 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 23, 2015, 12:20:58 AM
Well Cruz did just school a Hollywood lesbian while eating a sandwich.

Too cool for school.

Did the video get posted in all these threads?  This was great!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu1lsw3_Kfo
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 23, 2015, 05:44:12 AM
Ted's measured and masterful.  I had the video queued-up to post, but y'all beat me to it.

But I wish he would have pressed Page about who among the LGTWhatever's is getting fired for sexual-preference.  Virtually nobody.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 23, 2015, 07:13:39 AM
Here at a local Target, there is, or was, a man working there, interacting with the public, dressed as a woman. The guycis a freak, just like Bruce Jenner is a mentally ill freak. I don't shop there anymore because they allow h to work there like that.

I'm not sure what the laws are, but any business should be able to dictate reasonable dress codes and behaviour. I suspect these are the sorts of reasons some few freaks may feel discriminated against.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 23, 2015, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 23, 2015, 05:44:12 AM
Ted's measured and masterful.  I had the video queued-up to post, but y'all beat me to it.

But I wish he would have pressed Page about who among the LGTWhatever's is getting fired for sexual-preference.  Virtually nobody.

It is the classic "red herring" argument that dems so frequently espouse.  There is no real proof of this.

They are trying to wear us down and we best not fall for it!!!!   :mad:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 23, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 23, 2015, 12:20:58 AM
Well Cruz did just school a Hollywood lesbian while eating a sandwich.

Too cool for school.

He got her to admit she would force the gay business to cater to something they wouldn't want to do.

Juno, you're too adorable.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: fishhardnj on August 23, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Its a shame Ted never has solutions to anything. Always says tripe like 'we need leadership' or just complains. he needs to get rid of the slimeball snakeoil salesman look - all that oily hair and makeup.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 23, 2015, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: fishhardnj on August 23, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Its a shame Ted never has solutions to anything. Always says tripe like 'we need leadership' or just complains. he needs to get rid of the slimeball snakeoil salesman look - all that oily hair and makeup.

Cool, emotion is your strong suit I see.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 23, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: fishhardnj on August 23, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Its a shame Ted never has solutions to anything. Always says tripe like 'we need leadership' or just complains. he needs to get rid of the slimeball snakeoil salesman look - all that oily hair and makeup.

Ohh, that's beautiful.  -Beautifully crafted, with the look of real brain-function.  The vertebrate central nervous-system component displayed in its pristine-state, so essential to retrograde cerebralis-trolling, circa 1994. 

Go caress a cup of cocoa with both hands.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 23, 2015, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: fishhardnj on August 23, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Its a shame Ted never has solutions to anything. Always says tripe like 'we need leadership' or just complains. he needs to get rid of the slimeball snakeoil salesman look - all that oily hair and makeup.

You have another 2 years before he cuts welfare and you have to find a job.  You have time.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 23, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
Cruz goes after the he Christian vote:

QuoteMore than 100,000 pastors received e-mail invitations over the weekend to participate in conference calls with Cruz on Tuesday in which they will learn details of the plan to mobilize churchgoers in every congressional district beginning Aug. 30. The requests were sent on the heels of the Texas Republican's "Rally for Religious Liberty," which drew 2,500 people to a Des Moines ballroom Friday.

e push comes as Cruz seeks to grab a decisive edge in a crowded primary-within-a-primary, with half a dozen GOP contenders battling for what he has referred to as "the evangelical bracket."

Roughly 1 in 4 voters have identified themselves as evangelical in exit polls from the 2004 campaign on. In key Republican primaries such as Iowa, and in some of the Southern states that Cruz has said are critical to his run, that figure was higher during the last presidential campaign — nearly 50 percent.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruzs-evangelical-outreach-moves-into-high-gear-with-new-church-based-push/2015/08/23/f8cdaaca-4858-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html     

If one candidate could inspire the Christian vote, they'd have this election wrapped up. We are the single largest voting bloc.  Cruz could do it before Trump.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 23, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 23, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
Cruz goes after the he Christian vote:

If one candidate could inspire the Christian vote, they'd have this election wrapped up. We are the single largest voting bloc.  Cruz could do it before Trump.

A conservative AND a strong Christian?  Game over.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on August 23, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
A conservative AND a strong Christian?  Game over.

Read about the Ohio event this morning and am impressed with Cruz even more.  Support for him in terms of how the audience of close to 3000 (according to my hometown news paper)responded to him far overshot what was expected.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 24, 2015, 03:53:22 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on August 23, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
Read about the Ohio event this morning and am impressed with Cruz even more.  Support for him in terms of how the audience of close to 3000 (according to my hometown news paper)responded to him far overshot what was expected.    :thumbsup:

He just has to be heard by many more people.  There are still millions of voters who have never heard him!!!

We couldn't ask for a better candidate!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 24, 2015, 03:59:27 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 24, 2015, 03:53:22 AM
He just has to be heard by many more people.  There are still millions of voters who have never heard him!!!

We couldn't ask for a better candidate!

WE can always ask for a better candidate!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 24, 2015, 04:16:34 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 23, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Ohh, that's beautiful.  -Beautifully crafted, with the look of real brain-function.  The vertebrate central nervous-system component displayed in its pristine-state, so essential to retrograde cerebralis-trolling, circa 1994. 

Go caress a cup of cocoa with both hands.

This is the best this bonebrain can muster here --- Cruz's hairstyle (with or without oils or other aids)???? I mean, can you find any better definition of shallow?

Okay, then, let's all just go there. Let's discuss hair treatments where it's OK for a black guy to oil his 'do and then wear a shower cap all day, but it's NOT okay for a white guy (well, a CONSERVATIVE, anyway) to keep unruly hair in line?

I mean, whassup wit' DAT?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 24, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 24, 2015, 03:59:27 AM
WE can always ask for a better candidate!!
And until further notice, human beings are all we can find, to fill all the vacancies.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 24, 2015, 04:24:22 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 24, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
And until further notice, human beings are all we can find, to fill all the vacancies.

It has been said there working on that.   :sneaky:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 24, 2015, 04:32:23 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 24, 2015, 04:24:22 AM
It has been said there working on that.   :sneaky:

Yeah, I've been kindasortyamaybealittlebit following that robotics thing. They'll have us marrying "bots" by about the year 2050.

Well, some of us.  :biggrin:  And may I say it's very likely that a POLITICIAN "bot" will only be as honest as its programmer. In other words, don't expect much OBVIOUS change in the IRS.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 24, 2015, 05:26:59 AM
Quote from: fishhardnj on August 23, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Its a shame Ted never has solutions to anything. Always says tripe like 'we need leadership' or just complains. he needs to get rid of the slimeball snakeoil salesman look - all that oily hair and makeup.


I thought you leftists were all about oily hair and makeup for men like Bruce Jenner and the rest of the crossdressing emasculated capons out there.

Besides that, you obviously weren't listening When Cruz talked about shredding Obamao-care and reducing taxes...those are called  "solutions" to problems the Marxists have saddled the American people with.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 24, 2015, 09:59:34 AM
 Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, who has assiduously courted evangelicals throughout his presidential run, will take a lead role in the launch this week of an ambitious 50-state campaign to end taxpayer support for Planned Parenthood — a move that is likely to give the GOP candidate a major primary-season boost in the fierce battle for social-conservative and evangelical voters.

More than 100,000 pastors received e-mail invitations over the weekend to participate in conference calls with Cruz on Tuesday in which they will learn details of the plan to mobilize churchgoers in every congressional district beginning Aug. 30. The requests were sent on the heels of the Texas Republican's "Rally for Religious Liberty," which drew 2,500 people to a Des Moines ballroom Friday.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/ted-cruz-to-lead-100000-pastors-in-50-state-attack-on-planned-parenthood/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
Quote from: taxed on August 23, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
A conservative AND a strong Christian?  Game over.

You can NOT be both a strong Christian and be a strong American at the same time. ALL organized religions,including Christianity are global powers that seek worldwide control over every aspect of the lives of the people under them,and America stands for individual freedoms and the right to live your life as you see fit as long as you are not harming anyone else.

Two diametrically opposed systems. Pick one.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 24, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
You can NOT be both a strong Christian and be a strong American at the same time. ALL organized religions,including Christianity are global powers that seek worldwide control over every aspect of the lives of the people under them,and America stands for individual freedoms and the right to live your life as you see fit as long as you are not harming anyone else.

Two diametrically opposed systems. Pick one.

That is diabolically wrong!  You have no facts to support your feeble claim.

This Nation was established by God fearing Christian men for the most part.  There is no conflict between Christianity and freedom.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
You can NOT be both a strong Christian and be a strong American at the same time. ALL organized religions,including Christianity are global powers that seek worldwide control over every aspect of the lives of the people under them,and America stands for individual freedoms and the right to live your life as you see fit as long as you are not harming anyone else.

Two diametrically opposed systems. Pick one.
ROFL!!!
You really need an education in historical context, it was Religion that built this great nation.
Why even post, if you know you're going to come off as an ignorant dolt?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 24, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
That is diabolically wrong!  You have no facts to support your feeble claim.

This Nation was established by God fearing Christian men for the most part.  There is no conflict between Christianity and freedom.

BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BullBush.  Do you know ANYTHING about history?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
ROFL!!!
You really need an education in historical context, it was Religion that built this great nation.
Why even post, if you know you're going to come off as an ignorant dolt?

Yes,religion helped build this great nation,if you are referring to all the people who left Europe to get away from the stranglehold organized religion had over both governments and individuals.

Ever heard of "Separation of Church and State"? Have any idea what was behind that?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
Yes,religion helped build this great nation,if you are referring to all the people who left Europe to get away from the stranglehold organized religion had over both governments and individuals.

Ever heard of "Separation of Church and State"? Have any idea what was behind that?
"Separation of Church and State"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Stupid Lib! There is no such thing! There is, however the First Amendment, which I suggest you read and understand!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 24, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
Yes,religion helped build this great nation,if you are referring to all the people who left Europe to get away from the stranglehold organized religion had over both governments and individuals.

Ever heard of "Separation of Church and State"? Have any idea what was behind that?

Do you understand that the Constitution defines the limits of the federal government and NOTHING else?

The Constitution forbids the GOVERNMENT  from interfering in the Church, and nowhere limits the activities of the Church.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: red_dirt on August 24, 2015, 06:57:39 PM

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/history-american-democracy-and-the-ap-test-controversy/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 24, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 05:54:44 PM
BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BullBush.  Do you know ANYTHING about history?

Show us with sources.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 24, 2015, 08:51:08 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 24, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Show us with sources.
All he has is lib talking points memos to fall back on.
Separation of church and state... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
"Separation of Church and State"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Stupid Lib! There is no such thing! There is, however the First Amendment, which I suggest you read and understand!
Yeah,one of us is stupid. There can be no question about that.

Nor can there be any question about it being the one that believes in miracles,magic,and life after death.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 24, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
Do you understand that the Constitution defines the limits of the federal government and NOTHING else?

The Constitution forbids the GOVERNMENT  from interfering in the Church, and nowhere limits the activities of the Church.

No,I understand that the Constitution forbids Religious cults from interfering with the government.

I bet your cult leader is the one that convinced you that the Church (whatever church that might be) is dominant over government.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 24, 2015, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
Yeah,one of us is stupid. There can be no question about that.

Nor can there be any question about it being the one that believes in miracles,magic,and life after death.

Can you expound beyond "separation of church and state"?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 24, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Show us with sources.

Be specific. History is a big subject.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 24, 2015, 11:21:27 PM
Can you expound beyond "separation of church and state"?

Why is that necessary? Do you not understand what the word "separation" means?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 24, 2015, 11:26:30 PM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:22:57 PM
Why is that necessary? Do you not understand what the word "separation" means?

Of course but how is it relevant? Do you know why? How exactly does it apply? You are obviously smarter than the rest of us. Now is your chance to educate us.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 25, 2015, 01:46:07 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 24, 2015, 11:21:27 PM
Can you expound beyond "separation of church and state"?
I'd like to see where in the Constitution it explicitly uses that phrase.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 25, 2015, 04:29:09 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 25, 2015, 01:46:07 AM
I'd like to see where in the Constitution it explicitly uses that phrase.

sneakypete obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.  It is NOT in the Constitution.

And churches do not teach that they are above governments.  They teach that we are under the authority of our governments and should do as instructed EXCEPT when they order us to do something in direct violation to the Bible.  The Bible says that God hates homosexuality and calls it an abomination.  So Christians should not participate in anything like that.  Otherwise we should follow the laws of the land.

The government should not have the power to force us to violate our religion.  They allow the native Americans to use peyote in their religious rites, and they allow muslims to put sharia law above American law, so why are they persecuting Christians?

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 25, 2015, 05:29:33 AM
Aw, ya went and SPOILED it for me!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quote from: kroz on August 25, 2015, 04:29:09 AM
sneakypete obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.  It is NOT in the Constitution.

Hey, Petey-lad. Have you ever actually READ the U.S. Constitution? Seriously. Now come and defend your statement about the separation of church and state. Tell me all about that Christian hegemony over social thought or political action/inaction. Condense all the harebrained bullshit liberal theories you got third-hand off NPR and hit me with it, son.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 25, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
Yeah,one of us is stupid. There can be no question about that.

Nor can there be any question about it being the one that believes in miracles,magic,and life after death.
And you're too stupid to recognize the fact that it's you.
Here, show me separation.
But more importantly, show me where any restriction was placed on Religion.
Keep in mind, the POTUS does not write law, only Congress has that ability.
Read the bold, and tell me whom the people placed this restriction on, and just in case you're really totally fuckin clueless, Govt did not write the Bill of Rights, the people did, and guess why...

QuoteFirst Amendment - Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This hole you're digging? Let me know when I should start back filling it in. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 25, 2015, 05:36:08 AM
Quote from: quiller on August 25, 2015, 05:29:33 AM
Aw, ya went and SPOILED it for me!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey, Petey-lad. Have you ever actually READ the U.S. Constitution? Seriously. Now come and defend your statement about the separation of church and state. Tell me all about that Christian hegemony over social thought or political action/inaction. Condense all the harebrained bullshit liberal theories you got third-hand off NPR and hit me with it, son.

:popcorn:

Sorry I spoiled it for you, quiller.   You were hoping he would spend time and effort in the Constitution and actually find out what it REALLY says!  I get it.   :cool:

I carry a dogeared copy of the Constitution in my purse.  It is amazing how many times I use it to prove a point with foolish voters.

petey may not show up again........  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 25, 2015, 05:43:52 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 25, 2015, 05:36:08 AM
Sorry I spoiled it for you, quiller.   You were hoping he would spend time and effort in the Constitution and actually find out what it REALLY says!  I get it.   :cool:

I carry a dogeared copy of the Constitution in my purse.  It is amazing how many times I use it to prove a point with foolish voters.

petey may not show up again........  :popcorn:
You'd be amazed at how idiotic libs can be when doubling down on stupid. :lol:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: quiller on August 25, 2015, 06:04:58 AM
Bookmark time. Here's where you can find copies of virtually every important document in our political history. Just read down the list...and explore what PatriotPost.us has to offer the conservative way of thinking.

http://patriotpost.us/documents

Here's just a sample. The article this goes with is good as well.

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http://patriotpost.us/articles/37166
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 25, 2015, 07:49:32 AM
Thanks quiller.  I bookmarked it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 25, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
Cruz feels the love in S.C. - WashEx's Byron York went to Rep. Jeff Duncan's BBQ in Anderson, S.C. where conservative favorites Ben Carson, Gov. Scott Walker and Sen. Ted Cruz all showed to stand pork shoulder to pork shoulder. All were warmly received, but York says Cruz was the clear favorite.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/south-carolina-gop-fest-they-liked-them-all-but-they-loved-ted/article/2570770
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: keyboarder on August 25, 2015, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 25, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
Cruz feels the love in S.C. - WashEx's Byron York went to Rep. Jeff Duncan's BBQ in Anderson, S.C. where conservative favorites Ben Carson, Gov. Scott Walker and Sen. Ted Cruz all showed to stand pork shoulder to pork shoulder. All were warmly received, but York says Cruz was the clear favorite.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/south-carolina-gop-fest-they-liked-them-all-but-they-loved-ted/article/2570770

Cruz delivers amazingly!  Just got thru watching his address to the good people of Chattanooga, Tennessee.  His address couldn't have spelled out any clearer that he is our choice for the next President.   I loved the part of his address where he enumerated his first day as President, should he win.  Such a wonderful agenda and one that will get this nation out of the ditch. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 25, 2015, 03:14:17 PM
Just for the Hell of it. And yes, libs heads are exploding. :lol:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoliticalinsider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2F1alley.jpg%3Fcdf920&hash=280d81b9c991dd4c516919294061ed8c3ea4eb84)
Kirstie AlleyVerified account
‏@kirstiealley
Here's a hint...I won't be voting the party that starts with the letters D E M this time... I know it's not much of a hint

https://twitter.com/kirstiealley
https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/635475406670336000
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 25, 2015, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 25, 2015, 03:14:17 PM
Just for the Hell of it. And yes, libs heads are exploding. :lol:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoliticalinsider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2F1alley.jpg%3Fcdf920&hash=280d81b9c991dd4c516919294061ed8c3ea4eb84)
Kirstie AlleyVerified account
‏@kirstiealley
Here's a hint...I won't be voting the party that starts with the letters D E M this time... I know it's not much of a hint

https://twitter.com/kirstiealley
https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/635475406670336000

Looks like her politics yo-yos just like her weight.   :ohmy:

Let's hope she keeps it off and stays away from democrats!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 25, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: kroz on August 25, 2015, 03:21:50 PM
Looks like her politics yo-yos just like her weight.   :ohmy:

Let's hope she keeps it off and stays away from democrats!
She's always been a huge (pun intended) lib. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: redbeard on August 25, 2015, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 25, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
She's always been a huge (pun intended) lib. :biggrin:
That first picture looks kind of like Bruce Jenner!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 25, 2015, 08:22:59 PM
Dammit.  Cruz fumbled Megyn Kelly's birthright citizenship question.  That was awkward.  He should've said:  Send them all back, then let them formally re-enter, like Trump answered.  It's what me, as a Cruz fan, wants him to answer. 

She's right.  It is out-of-character for him to not answer directly.

Cruz can't afford to go Jeb at this stage. 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/25/cruz-accuses-megyn-kelly-of-asking-mainstream-media-liberal-question/
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 25, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 25, 2015, 08:22:59 PM
Dammit.  Cruz fumbled Megyn Kelly's birthright citizenship question.  That was awkward.  He should've said:  Send them all back, then let them formally re-enter, like Trump answered.  It's what me, as a Cruz fan, wants him to answer. 

She's right.  It is out-of-character for him to not answer directly.

Cruz can't afford to go Jeb at this stage. 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/25/cruz-accuses-megyn-kelly-of-asking-mainstream-media-liberal-question/

Yeah he looked terrible. His first real rough patch. If Trump remains viable he will have to stake a position. 
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 26, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 25, 2015, 08:22:59 PM
Dammit.  Cruz fumbled Megyn Kelly's birthright citizenship question.  That was awkward.  He should've said:  Send them all back, then let them formally re-enter, like Trump answered.  It's what me, as a Cruz fan, wants him to answer. 

She's right.  It is out-of-character for him to not answer directly.

Cruz can't afford to go Jeb at this stage. 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/25/cruz-accuses-megyn-kelly-of-asking-mainstream-media-liberal-question/

If you listened carefully to his response he specifically mentioned enforcing e-verify.  I think Cruz will rely heavily on that to cause illegals to self deport taking their children with them.  If they leave their children they will find someone to keep them.  They won't leave them on the street.  Older children would be more likely to stay here and I think Cruz would allow that.  He would argue that getting rid of the illegals and closing the borders will insure that the problem has been effectively solved.  The children's destiny would be the choice of the parent.  The government would not accept responsibility for the children.

And I would accept that as a solution.   I have long said that the solution to the problem is e-verify enforcement and a secure border.  That is exactly what Cruz said.

Then Cruz also said that anchor babies should cease.... whether by policy change or Constitutional amendment.... whichever way is acceptable.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 26, 2015, 05:44:53 AM
On that Kelly interview, I have to disagree.  I actually thought he looked really strong, because he's right, the execution of his plan is first and foremost, and how does that happen.  When you have parents being deported, the kids will go with them, so the question really is about the solution itself.  It's not like millions of illegals have been deported and all left their kids here.  I liked Trump's answer, sure, but it's also another "moving part" in terms of the actual border security and immigration policy.  To my way of thinking, dealing with the citizenship issue, which they're not citizens because the parents broke the law in the first place, but that can be dealt with AFTER the new border security is in place.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 26, 2015, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 26, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
If you listened carefully to his response he specifically mentioned enforcing e-verify.  I think Cruz will rely heavily on that to cause illegals to self deport taking their children with them.  If they leave their children they will find someone to keep them.  They won't leave them on the street.  Older children would be more likely to stay here and I think Cruz would allow that.  He would argue that getting rid of the illegals and closing the borders will insure that the problem has been effectively solved.  The children's destiny would be the choice of the parent.  The government would not accept responsibility for the children.

And I would accept that as a solution.   I have long said that the solution to the problem is e-verify enforcement and a secure border.  That is exactly what Cruz said.

Then Cruz also said that anchor babies should cease.... whether by policy change or Constitutional amendment.... whichever way is acceptable.

I read it and didn't have an issue with what he said either.
He didn't come off as a half cocked Trump, bolstering BS just because it gets a crowd excited,
knowing he'd be blowing smoke up everyone's ass with Trump rhetoric.

That's not Cruz style, he tells the truth in the face of reality.


















Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: supsalemgr on August 26, 2015, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2015, 06:25:26 AM
I read it and didn't have an issue with what he said either.
He didn't come off as a half cocked Trump, bolstering BS just because it gets a crowd excited,
knowing he'd be blowing smoke up everyone's ass with Trump rhetoric.

That's not Cruz style, he tells the truth in the face of reality.

If criticism of Cruz picks up in the MSM it means he is making a positive move. This would be good news.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 26, 2015, 10:19:54 AM
I think they're both saying the same things.

Cruz would accomplish the same thing behind the scenes. But so would Trump if you read the plan. The way Trump speaks though, the uninformed would believe hedcsendvout the SS to round up invaders. The truth is, under either, the vast majority would self deport.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on August 27, 2015, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 26, 2015, 10:19:54 AM
I think they're both saying the same things.

Cruz would accomplish the same thing behind the scenes. But so would Trump if you read the plan. The way Trump speaks though, the uninformed would believe hedcsendvout the SS to round up invaders. The truth is, under either, the vast majority would self deport.

Tentatively, at Ted's invitation, they both will be on-stage together, protesting the Iran-deal.  Too bad  The Washington Post and Yahoo are the only ones reporting it since earlier this afternoon:

On Thursday, the GOP frontrunner hinted, and Cruz's campaign confirmed, that the pair would team up for a Capitol Hill rally against the Iran nuclear deal.

"Sen. Cruz has invited Donald Trump to join him on the Capitol grounds for a rally to call on members of Congress to defeat the catastrophic deal that the Obama Administration has struck with the Islamic Republic of Iran," the Texas lawmaker's campaign said in a statement.


http://news.yahoo.com/trump-cruz-bromance-takes-another-221600001.html;_ylt=A0LEV04C0N9VcMEAmhNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 28, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on August 27, 2015, 08:18:48 PM
Tentatively, at Ted's invitation, they both will be on-stage together, protesting the Iran-deal.  Too bad  The Washington Post and Yahoo are the only ones reporting it since earlier this afternoon:

On Thursday, the GOP frontrunner hinted, and Cruz's campaign confirmed, that the pair would team up for a Capitol Hill rally against the Iran nuclear deal.

"Sen. Cruz has invited Donald Trump to join him on the Capitol grounds for a rally to call on members of Congress to defeat the catastrophic deal that the Obama Administration has struck with the Islamic Republic of Iran," the Texas lawmaker's campaign said in a statement.


http://news.yahoo.com/trump-cruz-bromance-takes-another-221600001.html;_ylt=A0LEV04C0N9VcMEAmhNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz.   

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: walkstall on August 28, 2015, 04:38:11 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz.   

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!

Hmm...
Look at it this way, two people coming together for a common cause.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 28, 2015, 04:47:57 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz. 

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!

He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 28, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2015, 04:47:57 AM
He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.

I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 28, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.

I am.  Plus, if we were worried about Cruz looking weak, then we shouldn't be supporting him in the first place ;-)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: Solar on August 28, 2015, 05:52:51 AM
Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.
This is the same guy the RINO set up to take the fall for Hussein shutting down the govt, the one the LSM metaphorically lynched and painted as an evil extremist.
Yeah, I think he can handle himself. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: carlb on August 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2015, 04:47:57 AM
He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.

So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kroz on August 28, 2015, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: carlb on August 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.

NO!  We are educated voices in an ocean of social media and our own spheres of personal influence.

Never underestimate the power of one educated communicator!!!! :mad:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: taxed on August 28, 2015, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.

It shows he doesn't hate the country.  I never thought he did.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Thread
Post by: kit saginaw on September 03, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
It's hard to find the transcript of Cavuto's phone-interview with Cruz yesterday, probably because Cavuto's performance was one of his worst.  He suddenly comes back from a vacation on Wednesday, in case the stock-market dropped another 2.5%, I guess...  Since it didn't, he sleepwalked through the interview without any preparations.  Cruz tried to talk about the Iran-vote and his co-appearance with Trump, but kept getting interrupted with trivial clarifications.  Then Cavuto suddenly realized he only had 10-seconds left, and tried to ask Cruz about Iran and the Trump-rally.

The commercial-break cut them both off.  Ridiculous.