Ted Cruz Thread

[Solar]

There are a lot of Conservatives backing Trump right now and it would seem to me that the old tea organizations should pull out their old contact lists and try to bring these people back to the fold! What you said is a double edge sword! If the core Tea party supported Trump he would be unstoppable but on the other hand if the Tea regrouped with their old members to support Cruz He too could be unstoppable! By your own admission the old tea and the conservatives are split!

No, Conservatives aren't necessarily supporting Trump, they/we support his message, there's a huge difference.
Trump is not in it for the long haul and he knew it before he started, just like the other two times he did this. Trumps in it for Trump, he loves the admiration, he loves pissing people off, he loves the challenge, but he's proven time and time again, he's no Conservative, he's an opportunist.

Cruz on the other hand IS in it for the long haul and he's playing it perfectly, he continues to gain new support every time he speaks.
I don't know why you can't see it, but the LSM is propping Trump up, they have yet to hit him with any serious questions about his past, simply because they don't want to damage him yet.
Trump has yet to be vetted properly, while Cruz has already been through the wringer, since he's the most hated and feared by the GOPe.

Point is, at some point Trump will no longer be useful to the left, and those left standing, most likely Cruz, will continue to capture headlines and win the final election.

[redbeard]

No, Conservatives aren't necessarily supporting Trump, they/we support his message, there's a huge difference.
Trump is not in it for the long haul and he knew it before he started, just like the other two times he did this. Trumps in it for Trump, he loves the admiration, he loves pissing people off, he loves the challenge, but he's proven time and time again, he's no Conservative, he's an opportunist.

Cruz on the other hand IS in it for the long haul and he's playing it perfectly, he continues to gain new support every time he speaks.
I don't know why you can't see it, but the LSM is propping Trump up, they have yet to hit him with any serious questions about his past, simply because they don't want to damage him yet.
Trump has yet to be vetted properly, while Cruz has already been through the wringer, since he's the most hated and feared by the GOPe.

Point is, at some point Trump will no longer be useful to the left, and those left standing, most likely Cruz, will continue to capture headlines and win the final election.

"I don't know why you can't see it"? I've been posting that I don't believe he is in it for the long haul and why for quite a long time! I am not a Trump supporter but I find his run amazing! Never seen anything like it! The MSM has not been holding him up they have torn him down at every opportunity! I believe the only reason they are giving him extra air time now is they are sure he will make a blunder they can use against him. "Give him enough rope"!

After watching the talking heads on Sunday, Cruz isn't the most feared Trump is! They can't stop talking about him! George Will was down right nasty in his trump remarks as was Rove! Trump must really terrify these guys! They act like their jobs on the line!

[daidalos]

Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice.

[quiller]

quiller strikes again.....

Too bad I can't go back into that post and add a ™ to it. My contribution to 2016 politics.....

Humphrey might have been the last of the old time democrats. Maybe Muskie who had the reputation of being plain stupid.

I think Johnson pushed a lot of Democrats (Like My Father, Mother, Uncles and Aunt's) to Vote Republican party whom they hated due to them being Union people. They all voted Nixon. Mainly because they were Fed up with LBJ whom my Dad Called Lame Brain Johnson.

I would say the defining year was 1972 election, Vietnam war still raging, anti war movement fuel by KGB and Red China cash and political subtrefuge.... look who they ran....McGovern on the Anti War ticket. He had a hard time finding any of the aforementioned Humphrey, Muskie or even Ted (I can't swim) Kennedy  for VP....I think they knew what a radical he was....so he gets this guy Eagleton who was probably a moderate but found to have been in some sort of mental insitution.

Anyhow...a little tidbit....Bill and Hillary were involve din that campaign for McGovern....Nuff said.

I was with the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club in 1972. What a bunch of politicians were doing back home somehow just wasn't as important as avoiding getting sunk.

[kroz]

Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice.

Have you read the info in the Carly thread here?  I was shocked by her marxist connection.... among other things.   

[carlb]

Right now, thus far, Cruz is who'd I vote for. As I said I'd love to see either Cruz or Carly get the nod, but as it looks right now, these fools are going to vote for and saddle us with Trump or Clinton, gee what a friggin choice.

You may be "saddled" with Trump, put Hillary won't make it thru the primary process. She ain't Bill.

[Solar]

"I don't know why you can't see it"? I've been posting that I don't believe he is in it for the long haul and why for quite a long time! I am not a Trump supporter but I find his run amazing! Never seen anything like it! The MSM has not been holding him up they have torn him down at every opportunity! I believe the only reason they are giving him extra air time now is they are sure he will make a blunder they can use against him. "Give him enough rope"!

After watching the talking heads on Sunday, Cruz isn't the most feared Trump is! They can't stop talking about him! George Will was down right nasty in his trump remarks as was Rove! Trump must really terrify these guys! They act like their jobs on the line!

My bad, I always mix you and Red-Dirt up.
However, the leftist media is propping up Trump, it's FOX that's in for a Jeb/Hitlery ticket and despises Trump.
Both sides are playing a game of cat and mouse with the guy, leftists sticking it to FOX by keeping trump front and center and pissing off the GOP.
If the media wanted to, they could kill Trump's candidacy in a week with with a barrage of hit pieces, and everyone based in truth.
Trump is a walking baggage terminal full of skeletons, from supporting Marxist causes and leftist candidates, running as a Dim, donor to the Klinton Foundation and the list goes on and on and on, but the media has yet to touch any of that, because at the moment he's a leftist tool, an Useful Idiot.
And no, the Establishment doesn't fear Trump, he pisses them off, and that's just as good. It's Cruz that they're most worried about, and his lying below the radar, gaining popularity every time he speaks is an indicator that he is on the level of another Reagan, and that's what has the GOP worried more than anything, because he connects with the base on a Statesman's level.

[redbeard]

Ted Cruz Comes Out Against 'Birthright Citizenship'

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Wednesday that the United States shouldn't automatically grant citizenship to children of immigrants in the country illegally.

The Texas senator is the latest White House hopeful to weigh in the debate that has divided the GOP 2016 presidential class since billionaire businessman Donald Trump outlined his opposition to "birthright citizenship" as part of his immigration plan earlier in the week.

Cruz said he "absolutely" favors ending automatic citizenship to those born in the country, as guaranteed in the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

"We should end granting automatic birthright citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally," Cruz said in a Wednesday radio interview with the Michael Medved Show.

"That has been my position from my very first days of my running for the Senate," he continued. "I welcome Donald Trump articulating this this view. It's a view I have long held."

The "birthright citizenship" debate has exposed a new rift among the GOP's large presidential field, highlighting the eagerness of some conservatives to tap into Trump's share of the electorate.

More @
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-GOP-2016-Cruz/2015/08/19/id/670911/#ixzz3jJ4AZL00

This is a great wedge issue that is really splitting the field!

[Solar]

This is a great wedge issue that is really splitting the field!

That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad?

[kroz]

That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad?

His position is only to stop birthright for those who are here "illegally".  There are still non citizens here legally.... on work visas, travel visas, education visas, etc.  It is just the illegals that he is wanting to stop.

[redbeard]

That really should get him a lot of attention, good and bad.
Good from the Right, and good, because the left will be offended. Hmmm, where's the bad?

The "birthright citizenship" debate has exposed a new rift among the GOP's large presidential field, highlighting the eagerness of some conservatives to tap into Trump's share of the electorate.

Several candidates have spoken in favor of leaving the constitutional protection in place since Trump outlined his immigration plan earlier in the week, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former technology executive Carly Fiorina, and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Another group of Republicans, like Cruz and Trump, are calling for the Constitution to be changed to remove the incentive for immigrants who enter the country illegally to have children. Those opposed include Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who reversed his position in April on allowing a chance for legal status for those in the country illegally, gave mixed answers this week when asked about ending birthright citizenship.


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-GOP-2016-Cruz/2015/08/19/id/670911/#ixzz3jJBZB9uT

This wishy washy on stance will hurt Walker! I've liked him but he dropped a couple point in my book by not being a man and stand for what is right!
Cruz and Trump both are out front on this issue but it will be a tough one to accomplish because it will require the 14th amendment to be revised. That is a high threshold!

[carlb]

Does anybody else vet the feeling we are on the verge of making some great and long needed changes?

I wish/hope these politicians understand WHERE the American people are on these issues. A couple on our side get it. Most are fighting us. Trump IS one who gets it.

[Solar]

His position is only to stop birthright for those who are here "illegally".  There are still non citizens here legally.... on work visas, travel visas, education visas, etc.  It is just the illegals that he is wanting to stop.

OK...

[Solar]

This wishy washy on stance will hurt Walker! I've liked him but he dropped a couple point in my book by not being a man and stand for what is right!
Cruz and Trump both are out front on this issue but it will be a tough one to accomplish because it will require the 14th amendment to be revised. That is a high threshold!

Yep, Walker's RINO is showing, he better zip up his pants.

[Solar]

Does anybody else vet the feeling we are on the verge of making some great and long needed changes?

I wish/hope these politicians understand WHERE the American people are on these issues. A couple on our side get it. Most are fighting us. Trump IS one who gets it.

I agree. The media and Establishment are fighting hard against reality, but ignoring the pissed off elephant in the room holding a nuke isn't one of their smarter moves.