Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:34:47 AM
Newts not a RINO he's apart of what will be the new transformed GOP, which will be way more conservative.  See... It's all coming together. You can get things done with the other side and not compromise your own values. FYI.

I just proved Newt is part of the establishment RINO in his backing of the global warming scam, backed farm subsidies, refused to do anything about the ethanol scam, yet you claim he's a Conservative?
Son, you have no concept of what it means to be a Conservative, Conservatives do not grow govt, in fact, they shrink it at every occasion.

Refusing to go after the corn ethanol scam, AGW, govt controlled farming is more aligned with a socialist, which is exactly what the RINO are, crony capitalist/socialists.

Yes, your mentor is nothing but a big govt socialist, so what does that make you?

Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 06:58:21 AM
Bull shit, you weren't answering, you were dodging!
So why didn't you just admit Newt's a RINO in the first place, admit you were wrong and move on?
And no, Conservatives have a set of core values that cannot be compromised, if you do, you're not a Conservative.
Would you compromise your values?

CORE VALUES and the very principles upon which this great country was founded upon.  Disregarding those core values and principles are the reason why the GOP is in the pathetic shape it's in filled with RINO's who have deviated from not only the principles of the party but the very backbone of our country;  our Constitution. Why? To gain votes, payoffs, etc. and to appeal to moderates and to the leftards in hopes of winning an election --- which they lost miserably and as a result we got Obama.

Quote from: suzziY on September 15, 2014, 10:09:38 AM
CORE VALUES and the very principles upon which this great country was founded upon.  Disregarding those core values and principles are the reason why the GOP is in the pathetic shape it's in filled with RINO's who have deviated from not only the principles of the party but the very backbone of our country;  our Constitution. Why? To gain votes, payoffs, etc. and to appeal to moderates and to the leftards in hopes of winning an election --- which they lost miserably and as a result we got Obama.

Exactly! RINO are nothing but the very worst of Capitalism, they are the leaches on the middle class, they produce nothing.
In my book, they rank below Unions and lawyers, which many are, and now the establishment is pandering to the Unions.

Could it get any worse?

Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 10:44:50 AM
Exactly! RINO are nothing but the very worst of Capitalism, they are the leaches on the middle class, they produce nothing.
In my book, they rank below Unions and lawyers, which many are, and now the establishment is pandering to the Unions.

Could it get any worse?

Young rich kids that think they know everything.

Quote from: walkstall on September 15, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
Young rich kids that think they know everything.

Aw, come on, cut them some slack.    They go through our very liberal biased educational system and voila ... they come out geniuses!  They are taught to act and think like liberals; "good" Republicans should be moderates and those Republicans who are conservative constitutionalists are evil, corrupt, liars, don't pay enough taxes, warmongers, and just aren't in touch with the time!  I could go on, but nausea is starting to set in.

Quote from: suzziY on September 15, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Aw, come on, cut them some slack.    They go through our very liberal biased educational system and voila ... they come out geniuses!  They are taught to act and think like liberals; "good" Republicans should be moderates and those Republicans who are conservative constitutionalists are evil, corrupt, liars, don't pay enough taxes, warmongers, and just aren't in touch with the time!  I could go on, but nausea is starting to set in.

Well that was the last generations.      This new generations is putting them to shame. 

Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:34:47 AM
Newts not a RINO he's apart of what will be the new transformed GOP, which will be way more conservative.  See... It's all coming together. You can get things done with the other side and not compromise your own values. FYI.

??? Good grief.  What planet are you on?  Newt not a RINO?  Since when???  During "W"'s term he went on national television and gave his "opinon" on immigration which was just shy of granting amnesty and was all for a guest worker program.  Then tried to argue objectionably when asked then if he wanted to grant amnesty.  Yes, he is slick with words and very convincing, but double talk doesn't cut it.  Amnesty is just that.  Amnesty.  Illegals have broken the law period.  They should not be rewarded with a damn job and benefits.  They should be deported.  We spend billions catering to illegals who haven't contributed dime one!  Secondly,in 2011 he announced on Meet The Press that he was in favor of forced health care mandates ... he didn't come out and exactly say Obamacare ... but he might as well have.

Sorry.  Newt has been around for awhile.  He was booted out by his own party while in office.  If you recall, his party blamed him for their losing.  He tried to resurface and reinvent himself for the presidency last election.  It obviously didn't work.  He didn't even come close.  The CONSERVATIVE base knows he's a RINO.  Perhaps he has some of the moderates and liberals RINO'd but not the base he needs to get elected.  WE conservatives don't want moderates or RINO's -- slowly but surely we will get  rid of them one by one, vote by vote, election after election. 

Your statement the "new transformed GOP" which will be way more conservative has left me baffled.  Are you under the impression that all of a sudden the "GOP establishment" (predominately RINO's and moderates) are going to become more conservative?  If that is what you are implying, all I can say is, if you honestly believe that b.s., than obviously you are NOT a genius.

RINO is RINO. Moderate is moderate.  Conservatives are neither!!

Quote from: quiller on September 15, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
Troll, I am the least patient person here. I'd have banned you, not let you back in.

Dude, the GOP will take over congress.  You are a right winger right? 

Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 09:42:50 AM
I just proved Newt is part of the establishment RINO in his backing of the global warming scam, backed farm subsidies, refused to do anything about the ethanol scam, yet you claim he's a Conservative?
Son, you have no concept of what it means to be a Conservative, Conservatives do not grow govt, in fact, they shrink it at every occasion.

Refusing to go after the corn ethanol scam, AGW, govt controlled farming is more aligned with a socialist, which is exactly what the RINO are, crony capitalist/socialists.

Yes, your mentor is nothing but a big govt socialist, so what does that make you?

Your entitled to your "opinion."  The answer to your question is it make me a conservative. 

Quote from: suzziY on September 15, 2014, 01:07:44 PM
??? Good grief.  What planet are you on?  Newt not a RINO?  Since when???  During "W"'s term he went on national television and gave his "opinon" on immigration which was just shy of granting amnesty and was all for a guest worker program.  Then tried to argue objectionably when asked then if he wanted to grant amnesty.  Yes, he is slick with words and very convincing, but double talk doesn't cut it.  Amnesty is just that.  Amnesty.  Illegals have broken the law period.  They should not be rewarded with a damn job and benefits.  They should be deported.  We spend billions catering to illegals who haven't contributed dime one!  Secondly,in 2011 he announced on Meet The Press that he was in favor of forced health care mandates ... he didn't come out and exactly say Obamacare ... but he might as well have.

Sorry.  Newt has been around for awhile.  He was booted out by his own party while in office.  If you recall, his party blamed him for their losing.  He tried to resurface and reinvent himself for the presidency last election.  It obviously didn't work.  He didn't even come close.  The CONSERVATIVE base knows he's a RINO.  Perhaps he has some of the moderates and liberals RINO'd but not the base he needs to get elected.  WE conservatives don't want moderates or RINO's -- slowly but surely we will get  rid of them one by one, vote by vote, election after election. 

Your statement the "new transformed GOP" which will be way more conservative has left me baffled.  Are you under the impression that all of a sudden the "GOP establishment" (predominately RINO's and moderates) are going to become more conservative?  If that is what you are implying, all I can say is, if you honestly believe that b.s., than obviously you are NOT a genius.

RINO is RINO. Moderate is moderate.  Conservatives are neither!!

Solar believes it.  He said he agreed that they'd have to cave to the right on the debt and Government spending.  That's a big conservative principle.  Smaller Government.

Quote from: suzziY on September 15, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Aw, come on, cut them some slack.    They go through our very liberal biased educational system and voila ... they come out geniuses!  They are taught to act and think like liberals; "good" Republicans should be moderates and those Republicans who are conservative constitutionalists are evil, corrupt, liars, don't pay enough taxes, warmongers, and just aren't in touch with the time!  I could go on, but nausea is starting to set in.

I'm very old school.

Quote from: suzziY on September 15, 2014, 01:07:44 PM
??? Good grief.  What planet are you on?  Newt not a RINO?  Since when???  During "W"'s term he went on national television and gave his "opinon" on immigration which was just shy of granting amnesty and was all for a guest worker program.  Then tried to argue objectionably when asked then if he wanted to grant amnesty.  Yes, he is slick with words and very convincing, but double talk doesn't cut it.  Amnesty is just that.  Amnesty.  Illegals have broken the law period.  They should not be rewarded with a damn job and benefits.  They should be deported.  We spend billions catering to illegals who haven't contributed dime one!  Secondly,in 2011 he announced on Meet The Press that he was in favor of forced health care mandates ... he didn't come out and exactly say Obamacare ... but he might as well have.

Sorry.  Newt has been around for awhile.  He was booted out by his own party while in office.  If you recall, his party blamed him for their losing.  He tried to resurface and reinvent himself for the presidency last election.  It obviously didn't work.  He didn't even come close.  The CONSERVATIVE base knows he's a RINO.  Perhaps he has some of the moderates and liberals RINO'd but not the base he needs to get elected.  WE conservatives don't want moderates or RINO's -- slowly but surely we will get  rid of them one by one, vote by vote, election after election. 

Your statement the "new transformed GOP" which will be way more conservative has left me baffled.  Are you under the impression that all of a sudden the "GOP establishment" (predominately RINO's and moderates) are going to become more conservative?  If that is what you are implying, all I can say is, if you honestly believe that b.s., than obviously you are NOT a genius.

RINO is RINO. Moderate is moderate.  Conservatives are neither!!

That's not what Newt said at all about illegals.  Quote him warmly and accurately.

Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 03:09:45 PM
Your entitled to your "opinion."  The answer to your question is it make me a conservative.

Check your grammar on that reply, because it made no sense.

Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 07:10:34 PM
Check your grammar on that reply, because it made no sense.

You're. Makes.  Satisfied?  Also it's didn't make any sense.   

Quote from: Solar on September 11, 2014, 05:19:00 AM
Let me be blunt and derail your thread for a moment. IDIOT!!!
Voting for whomever the GOP forces on us will never kill off this cancer, at some point you have to say enough is enough and have the courage to vote your values.

Dole, McCain, Mitten, how long are you going to keep failure in charge?

Come on people, are you sheep or Conservatives?
Vote TEA. ONLY!!!

IMO, its better to vote for a "war monger" than what we have in the white house now. He has to be dragged off the golf course kicking and screaming to pay attention to what's happening.