Should Turkey be in NATO ?

Started by SalemCat, November 18, 2015, 08:15:24 PM

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taxed

Quote from: quiller on November 21, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Better yet! Should the UN be in the USA?

THAT'S a teardown I'd like to see Trump work on...
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quiller

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2015, 05:20:16 PM
THAT'S a teardown I'd like to see Trump work on...
Every cop who had to stifle his temper over some slug with diplo plates deserves their ten minutes in that wrecking-ball cab. Next would be the store owners and other people victimized by these worthless parasites. Got a CDL and New York permits for hauling waste? Write it off as public service contribution ---your way to help get back America.

quiller

Quote from: walkstall on November 21, 2015, 11:13:58 AM
Yes, you have mellowed out in about the last 5 years.   :lol:

Good. The disguise worked.



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Oh Boy! are we gonna go to work on the UN?  Can we expel everyone of the SOB's and turn it into a giant Disabled Vets recovery center complete with hooter girls and victoria secret models?
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kalash

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http://c.lifenewscontent.ru/static/posts/2015/11/171687/98fa5554e17d277e587097425a05f2af__660x.png
Turkey did this to almost all of neighboring states. And they decided to shoot down russian jet for 17 seconds in their airspace? Soon, after Russia start pounding illegal oil traffiking from ISIS to Turkey... What a coinsidence...

quiller

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 25, 2015, 05:27:58 AM
Oh Boy! are we gonna go to work on the UN?  Can we expel everyone of the SOB's and turn it into a giant Disabled Vets recovery center complete with hooter girls and victoria secret models?
Best idea so far, except, what about the microbrewery?

Solar

Quote from: kalash on November 25, 2015, 07:28:23 AM
http://c.lifenewscontent.ru/static/posts/2015/11/171687/98fa5554e17d277e587097425a05f2af__660x.png
Turkey did this to almost all of neighboring states. And they decided to shoot down russian jet for 17 seconds in their airspace? Soon, after Russia start pounding illegal oil traffiking from ISIS to Turkey... What a coinsidence...
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Mountainshield

Quote from: SalemCat on November 23, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
Civilization would be improved if Russia took out Turkey.

Turkey is a regressive state of savages.

I do not need their Walnuts, Apricots, Pinenuts, or Shotguns so badly as to support them.

When they formally apologize for their Genocide of Christian Armenians,  I will absolutely consider forgiving them.

I will be rotted and long gone before then.

Though I pray otherwise.

You are talking out of your ass.

Having spent most of my life in Turkish majority neighborhood I have gotten to know Turkish expatriates and been several times to Turkey they are not like Arabs or the other scum. Which is why we call them Turks and not just Arabs. It should also be clear that the Arabs and Persians hated the Turkish Muslim Caliphate, and will never submit to Turkish subjugation without domination. The Turks are not fundamentalists, not even Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party they are Nationalists that play on Islamist strings to give them prestige in the muslim world and justification for rulership. Turkey is part of Europe and the only reason it is not part of the EU is because they are too conservative, which makes them too good for the EU. And right now it looks like the Turks are realizing that themselves. Fuck the leftist faggots in Brussels.

The Republican People's Party is a socialist party, sure they are secular but is that what is the most important? If so then communism is what your way will eventually lead too.

You Americans that want Turkey out of NATO now just because Putin is giving you the dread stare? If we should have thrown out NATO it should have been when Turkey facilitated Hamas flotilla and not now because you are scared of Russia.

Solar

Quote from: Mountainshield on November 25, 2015, 08:14:28 AM
You are talking out of your ass.

Having spent most of my life in Turkish majority neighborhood I have gotten to know Turkish expatriates and been several times to Turkey they are not like Arabs or the other scum. Which is why we call them Turks and not just Arabs. It should also be clear that the Arabs and Persians hated the Turkish Muslim Caliphate, and will never submit to Turkish subjugation without domination. The Turks are not fundamentalists, not even Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party they are Nationalists that play on Islamist strings to give them prestige in the muslim world and justification for rulership. Turkey is part of Europe and the only reason it is not part of the EU is because they are too conservative, which makes them too good for the EU. And right now it looks like the Turks are realizing that themselves. Fuck the leftist faggots in Brussels.

The Republican People's Party is a socialist party, sure they are secular but is that what is the most important? If so then communism is what your way will eventually lead too.

You Americans that want Turkey out of NATO now just because Putin is giving you the dread stare? If we should have thrown out NATO it should have been when Turkey facilitated Hamas flotilla and not now because you are scared of Russia.
To clarify. Americans aren't afraid of Putin, the Marxists in America are afraid of Putin.
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Quote from: Mountainshield on November 25, 2015, 08:14:28 AM
You are talking out of your ass.

Having spent most of my life in Turkish majority neighborhood I have gotten to know Turkish expatriates and been several times to Turkey they are not like Arabs or the other scum. Which is why we call them Turks and not just Arabs. It should also be clear that the Arabs and Persians hated the Turkish Muslim Caliphate, and will never submit to Turkish subjugation without domination. The Turks are not fundamentalists, not even Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party they are Nationalists that play on Islamist strings to give them prestige in the muslim world and justification for rulership. Turkey is part of Europe and the only reason it is not part of the EU is because they are too conservative, which makes them too good for the EU. And right now it looks like the Turks are realizing that themselves. Fuck the leftist faggots in Brussels.

The Republican People's Party is a socialist party, sure they are secular but is that what is the most important? If so then communism is what your way will eventually lead too.

You Americans that want Turkey out of NATO now just because Putin is giving you the dread stare? If we should have thrown out NATO it should have been when Turkey facilitated Hamas flotilla and not now because you are scared of Russia.


Just one correction.  We as Americans are not scared of anyone, nor are our military leaders.  Obama is a spineless, self absorbed sympathizer who doesn't have the guts to stand up to him because he wants to protect his "legacy" and he gets a big, big pass due to his skin-color.  His only desire is to tear down this once great nation and sadly there are only a few conservative politicians who will stand up to him.

He should have been hauled out of the WH and shot or hung for treason and a variety of other crimes.

Mountainshield

Quote from: Dubinsky on November 25, 2015, 09:02:42 AM
Just one correction.  We as Americans are not scared of anyone, nor are our military leaders.

Quote from: Solar on November 25, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
To clarify. Americans aren't afraid of Putin, the Marxists in America are afraid of Putin.

Indeed, though sacrificing Turkey to Russia is exactly the message of cowardice that Russia and enemies of the West wants to see.

Russia wants to overflow Europe with scum from the arab world, which is why they are helping Assad's genocide of Sunni's and bombing the enemies of the IS simultaneously. Turkey is the only country fighting both communists which is what the Kurdish separatist movement is and Assad's genocidal regime.

As for IS, both the Shia Iraqis and Alawite/Shia Syrians have themselves to thank for that, blaming the US or Turkey for IS is an exercise in delusional moral superiority, that way the liberals don't have to take responsibility and say It's not our or Obama's fault and can blame the usual conservative right-wing boogeymen instead while discarding all facts.

Dori

Quote from: Mountainshield on November 25, 2015, 08:14:28 AMnot even Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party they are Nationalists that play on Islamist strings to give them prestige in the muslim world and justification for rulership.

I've heard that Erdogan is a dictator wannabe.  What about Sharia law? Do the Turks want to bring back the Ottoman Empire?   
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kalash

"A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack" -Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, President of Turkey, 2012, after a Turkish plane was shot down over Syria.

source:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18584872

Nice double standards here.

Mountainshield

Quote from: Dori on November 25, 2015, 10:26:15 AM

I've heard that Erdogan is a dictator wannabe.  What about Sharia law? Do the Turks want to bring back the Ottoman Empire?

Probably, I want Scandinavia to form the Kalmar Union as that was my country's greatest moment. That the Turks looks to it's past for pride is understandable, but if you are seriously suggesting that they want to form the Ottoman Empire again then they will have to fight Saudi Arabia and Iran who both want to control a potential new Caliphate. And there is no technological gap between the Turks and Arabs anymore.

Erdogan is a strong man, and it is interesting to see all the secular Turks voting for him because they know they need a strong leader. Erdogan used to put his Islam faith first which is why we dislike him today, but he has been forced to change into a Nationalist. It's not like the Arab Sunni 's give a shit about Turkey even though he supported them in the past.

Turks don't want sharia, sure many do but that is not why they support the Justice Party. Most if not almost all of the Justice party members come from the former True Path Party which was Turkey's conservative party and the conservative party is the only party to have a female prime minister

Doesn't look like Sharia to me, but then again that was 20 years ago. So I guess that doesn't necessarily mean the younger millennials don't want Sharia, but like the millennials in the US and Europe that scream for socialism when living in prosperity thanks to capitalism I think they have no clue what they want.