Quote from: Shooterman on June 30, 2013, 08:02:28 AM
Careful, Quill lest thou dost date thyself. I doubt if most know who Dagwood was, or is.

Dagwood is still in our Sunday funnies 

Quote from: JustKari on June 30, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
Dagwood is still in our Sunday funnies 

As he is in ours, but when the Sunday Comics got filled up with all the 'modern' cartoons, and the old ones died out, I just quit reading them.

Two of my all time favorites were L'il Abner and Pogo, both dead. Reruns of Charley Brown are not enough to draw me back. I grew up in the old school of Alley Oop, Dick Tracy, Terry and the Pirates. Katzenjammer Kids, Snuffy Smith were okay, but never my favorite. I like Marmaduke, but it is still not enough to draw me back.

Quote from: Shooterman on June 30, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
As he is in ours, but when the Sunday Comics got filled up with all the 'modern' cartoons, and the old ones died out, I just quit reading them.

Two of my all time favorites were L'il Abner and Pogo, both dead. Reruns of Charley Brown are not enough to draw me back. I grew up in the old school of Alley Oop, Dick Tracy, Terry and the Pirates. Katzenjammer Kids, Snuffy Smith were okay, but never my favorite. I like Marmaduke, but it is still not enough to draw me back.

I remember a few of those, but admittedly not many.  I bought the paper a few times within the last year, but only for the coupons.  The (red) Star Tribune is so liberally biased that I can barely stomach to look at it.  I refuse to buy it anymore, I buy my coupons from non-news sources now.

What took you so all Palin, I left the Republican party in June of 2013. I'm now part of the "Professional Right".

Several badly need to grasp a cold harsh reality viz. the GOP is not and has never been
a party of conservative principle. NEVER. It was forged during the Civil War as the party
of government, evolving into one of Secular Progressivism during the Gilded Age then
becoming the party of big business and corporate interests; where it remains stuck today.
Since FDR, the fight has always been over who carries the progressive banner, which
is why nothing does or will change in DC as long as the current duopoly holds power.
Believing otherwise is the triumph of delusional fantasy over home truth. Additionally
the GOP is little more than a carcass badly in need of burial. Palin is merely suggesting
the obvious.

We need to bury the rep party and dance on its rotting corpse.

Quote from: Shooterman on June 30, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
As he is in ours, but when the Sunday Comics got filled up with all the 'modern' cartoons, and the old ones died out, I just quit reading them.

Two of my all time favorites were L'il Abner and Pogo, both dead. Reruns of Charley Brown are not enough to draw me back. I grew up in the old school of Alley Oop, Dick Tracy, Terry and the Pirates. Katzenjammer Kids, Snuffy Smith were okay, but never my favorite. I like Marmaduke, but it is still not enough to draw me back.

Wow!!    I see Google will have a lot of traffic after people look at your post.   

Quote from: Walter Josh on June 30, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
Several badly need to grasp a cold harsh reality viz. the GOP is not and has never been
a party of conservative principle. NEVER. It was forged during the Civil War as the party
of government, evolving into one of Secular Progressivism during the Gilded Age then
becoming the party of big business and corporate interests; where it remains stuck today.
Since FDR, the fight has always been over who carries the progressive banner, which
is why nothing does or will change in DC as long as the current duopoly holds power.
Believing otherwise is the triumph of delusional fantasy over home truth. Additionally
the GOP is little more than a carcass badly in need of burial. Palin is merely suggesting
the obvious.

Oh, Crappy Dah, Walter. You have just crapped in a lot of mess kits with that one.

Quote from: dashvinny on June 30, 2013, 06:23:55 AM
Its time to question continued loyalty to a party that hates its base.

Some of you just don't get it.

NOBODY here has loyalty to the Republican Party  What they/I do is vote for the most conservative candidate that has a chance in hell of winning.

TRY to think this thru.  Split the Republican vote in half and who will you get in 2016?????

How long will the Republic survive beyond 2016 if the Demonrats have full control of all 3 branches???

If you can't figure it out, THERE WILL BE NOTHING TO RESTORE in just a few short years.

Your best hope is to quit assuming that the Republican establishment will get their RINO candidate. There's no reason you need to be MANIPULATED by the RINO Establishment ads or the Democrat ads. Sadly, I can list the posters here who will be easily swayed NOT TO VOTE or to squander their vote on a third party loser.  THAT is how the RINO establishment gets their victory. And that's how the Demonrats get their victory.

Who would I blame for a Hillary win?  Some of the conservative posters here who don't know how to win battles.

Yawn, the GOP was a third party!
Why should anyone assume that 'the GOP will fail to get their RHINO candidate'
since they got them 14 out of 17 times during the last century; the exceptions being
Coolidge, Goldwater and Reagan. In fact, many of those R nominees were little more
than ushers for the D that followed; as below.
*Hoover, in fact, incubated large parts of the New Deal, particularly in Agriculture;
then 46% of the GDP.
*Eisenhower gave is Warren and Brennan, two of the most radical left jurist to ever
sit on SCOTUS.
*Nixon gave us the EPA and OSAHA, along w/Harry Blackmun; while abandoning the
Gold Standard and making Weimar level inflation possible.
*The Bush buffoons, gave us Clinton and Obama among other catastrophes.
The GOP establishment is addicted to money and power, contemptuous of core
conservative principle and as such, non-reformable, as were the Whigs of 1850.
Paralyzing fear is the mortal enemy of transformational change, which is long, long
overdue in DC.

In case you haven't noticed, there is a NEW rising Republican establishment. We have several in the House and in the Senate. And no, THEY didn't give us anything. YOU did. You listened to the lies of the left and the RINO establishment and told yourself Sarah Palin is "unelectable." You easily accept whatever spin they put on the candidate you would most like to see in the White House or Congress.  If a RINO (everybody has a different definition) becomes the candidate, he/she got there because of YOU and millions like you. Like I said, you just don't know how to win.

Right now, the ONLY reason we're not getting 50 MILLION new Democrat voters is because of the (imperfect) Republican House. But so many of you can't even see what you've got. Go ahead and split your vote. Go for the Libertarian Party (<1% of the vote), the Constitution Party or the Green Party. But don't do the I told you so when YOU put Hillary in office.

You could man up and work like hell to get Cruz (or Rand Paul) as the Republican candidate. But IF you don't get your way, the "Path to Victory" is to surround the next President with the most CONSERVATIVE House and Senate possible and quit thinking EVERYTHING rests on who sits in the White House.

Quote from: Yawn on June 30, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
Some of you just don't get it.

NOBODY here has loyalty to the Republican Party  What they/I do is vote for the most conservative candidate that has a chance in hell of winning.

TRY to think this thru.  Split the Republican vote in half and who will you get in 2016?????

How long will the Republic survive beyond 2016 if the Demonrats have full control of all 3 branches???

If you can't figure it out, THERE WILL BE NOTHING TO RESTORE in just a few short years.

Your best hope is to quit assuming that the Republican establishment will get their RINO candidate. There's no reason you need to be MANIPULATED by the RINO Establishment ads or the Democrat ads. Sadly, I can list the posters here who will be easily swayed NOT TO VOTE or to squander their vote on a third party loser.  THAT is how the RINO establishment gets their victory. And that's how the Demonrats get their victory.

Who would I blame for a Hillary win?  Some of the conservative posters here who don't know how to win battles.

Blah. Rube was the great conservative hope and he screwed usand went establishment. Im tired of hearing how voting republican gets us anywhere. A 3rd party that will represent conservatives is needed.

Explain your plan Explain exactly how you're going to win in 2016 or even 2020 (I assume you're talking about the White House).

Explain exactly how voting for ANY of the 1,000 "3rd Parties" will get you the country you've lost.

Quote from: Yawn on June 30, 2013, 02:03:42 PM
Explain your plan Explain exactly how you're going to win in 2016 or even 2020 (I assume you're talking about the White House).

Explain exactly how voting for ANY of the 1,000 "3rd Parties" will get you the country you've lost.

Sometimes you have to start small and work up. Tell me how voting rep stopped Rube from flooding the nation with millions of democrats, invalidating any conservative ideas.

I don't mean to go on a tangent but did you know that nearly all of the creators of those great golden age comic strips were conservatives? Harold Gray was behind "Little Orphan Annie" and I thought he'd be a liberal because of the famous movie but when you read the strip it's obvious where he stood and he HATED FDR. In the commentaries found in the collected strip volumes the commentators hold his views with great distain and are ALWAYS bashing him. Harold Gray believed that one day the socialists would infest the democratic party and take over the country and warned that when they did they would take the wealth of others for themselves.  He advised all of his fellow comic strip artists to buy farms, stockpile food and guns for when this day would come. Gray turned Al Capp (Lil' Abner) from a leftwing liberal into a staunch conservative (and Capp was destroyed by the media because of it) He also talked Dick Tracy creator Chester Gould into buying a farm and stockpiling food and guns just in case. For decades Gray and the rest have been laughed off by the art community but when we see things like Occupy Wall street and what's going on in Europe and the Middle East can we really say that his predictions were wrong (granted he didn't live to see it and it hasn't happened in America yet.)

Another interesting fact is they will trott Pogo Creator Walt Kelly out as a liberal loving commie but Kelly supported the church and traditional family values and he was anti-gay. They sweep thatr stuff under the rug. Just like how Walt Disney was a staunch conservative and they never tell the story of how he became that way. (When he was a kid a group of boys from liberal homes stripped him down naked and tarred his nether regions. He vowed to never support democrats again. You can find this story in the book "Who's Afraid of Song of the South")

But when most artists today are liberals and their art is so poor and so many artists from the past wwere conservative and their art was great could there be a connection between your life philosophy and what you create?