Russia Says U.S. Policies Helped Islamic State, Interfax Reports

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Quote from: walkstall on November 24, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
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Quote from: Mariner on November 23, 2015, 11:56:35 AM
I don't think the russian guy refers particularly to Obama, his administration or the democratic party, but more the foreign policy of the USA that tends to remain pretty consistent, no matter who's in the White House. You think anyone else would handle the Middle East any differently? How so, and how would that change the rise of ISIS, which is the point of Medvedev?
Oh please, spare us the libtard attempts at making excuses for Obama.  Obama's M.E. policy has been anything but, "consistent" with that of past administrations. The FACT of the matter is, Pre-Obama there was no ISIS, and Al-Queda was seriously degraded.

Post Obama we now have ISIS to contend with, and Al-Queda is making a come back, trying to compete with ISIS to see who can kill the most people for Islam.

I don't know this Mariner person, but if they cannot see the inconsistency and difference there. Then they're simply either delusional, a DNC operative/plant, willfully ignorant, and or mentally handicapped.
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Quote from: Mariner on November 23, 2015, 11:56:35 AM
I don't think the russian guy refers particularly to Obama, his administration or the democratic party, but more the foreign policy of the USA that tends to remain pretty consistent, no matter who's in the White House. You think anyone else would handle the Middle East any differently? How so, and how would that change the rise of ISIS, which is the point of Medvedev?

Really?

"became possible partly due to irresponsible U.S. politics" that focused on fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad instead of joining efforts to root out terrorism"

Sounds pretty specific to me.

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Quote from: Mariner on November 24, 2015, 05:40:53 AM
You'd have to read the context of the discussion. It kinda helps when you want to know what the hell someone is talking about. Just a friendly advice.I challenge you here, I believe you are wrong. He left the country in a state of chaos

Question, If I hadn't been following the thread how could I have responded with specificity to something you posted? Friendly advice; stop trying to be cute and concentrate on facts.

You entirely missed the point of my post which was the issue of the WMD which were PROVEN to be in Syria ala Obamao impotent 'Red line".  Why didn't Bush make an issue of these WMD's when there was ample evidence Saddam moved them out of Iraq and into Syria.....my speculation is that Bush and Putin cut a deal. And unless you have been living in a cave or deliberately not paying attention to the aforementioned Red line debacle, even the NY Times were running articles on Chemical weapons found in Iraq.

Iraq was hardly left in a state of Chaos, at least not by Bush, it may not have been perfect but it took Obamao to really Fk things up to the point where ISIS has annexed great swaths of that nation as part of the Caliphate.
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 24, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
Question, If I hadn't been following the thread how could I have responded with specificity to something you posted? Friendly advice; stop trying to be cute and concentrate on facts.

You entirely missed the point of my post which was the issue of the WMD which were PROVEN to be in Syria ala Obamao impotent 'Red line".  Why didn't Bush make an issue of these WMD's when there was ample evidence Saddam moved them out of Iraq and into Syria.....my speculation is that Bush and Putin cut a deal. And unless you have been living in a cave or deliberately not paying attention to the aforementioned Red line debacle, even the NY Times were running articles on Chemical weapons found in Iraq.

Iraq was hardly left in a state of Chaos, at least not by Bush, it may not have been perfect but it took Obamao to really Fk things up to the point where ISIS has annexed great swaths of that nation as part of the Caliphate.

Billy? Mariner and his successor-identity were both banned. Can't recall the second ID.

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Quote from: quiller on November 24, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
Billy? Mariner and his successor-identity were both banned. Can't recall the second ID.
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Quote from: Solar on November 24, 2015, 05:54:23 PM
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Putin has won. We need to deal with that and we could use it to our advantage.

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Quote from: quiller on November 24, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
Billy? Mariner and his successor-identity were both banned. Can't recall the second ID.


  :sad:....Awwwwwwwww I was just gettin' warmed up
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Quote from: Mariner on November 23, 2015, 12:07:46 PM
No, I don't think. The general principles seem to be the same: creating havoc to divide and conquer. Am I wrong that this has been our beloved foreign policy for the middle east (for those countries who just don't obey) for decades?

Yes.  You are wrong.