Would like to post a link but I watched it on Mark's new online TV show. Was kind of surprised Rubio would give Levin his first interview as I've heard Mark get on his case pretty hard while he was still in the race regarding the Gang of 8 thing. He interviewed on a whole range of things, many not related to the election at all. In the beginning though, Mark did ask him about who he was supporting and what was he going to do with his delegates. He said it was very important to get the most conservative person left in the race to be the republican nominee and that was Ted Cruz. He said Trump is just flat not a conservative at all and Kasich was a nice man but he doesn't really know him.
So then he asked him about the delegates. Rubio mentioned that he has asked his delegates to hold off until right before the convention for legal reasons but wants them given out for the first ballot. It seemed pretty obvious all his delegates will be going to Cruz. It doesn't sound like Rubio is interested in VP and wants to be a private citizen as he believes in term limits so it is not bothering him. Who knows though, I think if he is willing to give his delegates to Cruz he may ultimately be a possible VP pick...just a guess on my part. Great interview from Levin...
I hope he doesn't sellout to the Establishment. I just don't trust Rubio.
I'm not so sure Rubio wants to be a VP. My guess is he will go back to his new law firm he started before becoming a Senator.
I think he might take another run at the Presidency, later on, or even Gov. of FL.
I so hope he doesn't take Rubio. We've made it this far, and the establishment has had to bow to the conservative. We're winning and in control. We don't need an anti-American liberal on the ticket.
Quote from: taxed on April 13, 2016, 12:13:34 PM
I so hope he doesn't take Rubio. We've made it this far, and the establishment has had to bow to the conservative. We're winning and in control. We don't need an anti-American liberal on the ticket.
I think Cruz is too smart for that. However, it would not hurt for Rubio to endorse Cruz. He could use those delegates.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 13, 2016, 12:24:43 PM
I think Cruz is too smart for that. However, it would not hurt for Rubio to endorse Cruz. He could use those delegates.
Oh, definitely. I think they're going to Cruz no matter what, but Rubio's support is another boost for Cruz, no doubt.
Quote from: taxed on April 13, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
Oh, definitely. I think they're going to Cruz no matter what, but Rubio's support is another boost for Cruz, no doubt.
Isn't the silence from the GOP senators deafening? They are petrified. Therefore, no position on a candidate. They don't realize for a second that the folks are pissed just because of their "no position" approach.
Quote from: Fishman on April 12, 2016, 09:52:43 PM
So then he asked him about the delegates. Rubio mentioned that he has asked his delegates to hold off until right before the convention for legal reasons but wants them given out for the first ballot. It seemed pretty obvious all his delegates will be going to Cruz. It doesn't sound like Rubio is interested in VP and wants to be a private citizen as he believes in term limits so it is not bothering him. Who knows though, I think if he is willing to give his delegates to Cruz he may ultimately be a possible VP pick...just a guess on my part. Great interview from Levin...
To whom, Ksux?
Ksux has 143 delegates, he needs about 230 delegates, so add Rubots to Ksux and you have a RINO contender based in Establishment rules.
Republicans instituted a rule in the 2012 convention stating that a candidate must win a majority of the delegates in eight states to be placed in nomination, meaning neither Cruz or Chump reach the mark needed to clinch the nomination, hence contested convention.
Sure, all sounds conspiratorial, but this is the Establishment we're dealing with, a socialist Governor with zero chance of getting elected, and when one considers the Establishment failed with the Ryan balloon, their only resort is rules change and Ksux.
Yes, I know, sounds weird, but lets be honest, a Cruz win is a death sentence for the Establishment, so they will lie, cheat and steal to stay in power.
Like I said before, be prepared to write in Cruz.
Quote from: Fishman on April 12, 2016, 09:52:43 PM
Would like to post a link but I watched it on Mark's new online TV show. Was kind of surprised Rubio would give Levin his first interview as I've heard Mark get on his case pretty hard while he was still in the race regarding the Gang of 8 thing. He interviewed on a whole range of things, many not related to the election at all. In the beginning though, Mark did ask him about who he was supporting and what was he going to do with his delegates. He said it was very important to get the most conservative person left in the race to be the republican nominee and that was Ted Cruz. He said Trump is just flat not a conservative at all and Kasich was a nice man but he doesn't really know him.
So then he asked him about the delegates. Rubio mentioned that he has asked his delegates to hold off until right before the convention for legal reasons but wants them given out for the first ballot. It seemed pretty obvious all his delegates will be going to Cruz. It doesn't sound like Rubio is interested in VP and wants to be a private citizen as he believes in term limits so it is not bothering him. Who knows though, I think if he is willing to give his delegates to Cruz he may ultimately be a possible VP pick...just a guess on my part. Great interview from Levin...
Rubio hit Trump squarely on the Tariff & TAX issue - said government is the single largest issue holding back American growth. Great interview, good insight, sounded rather "Reaganesque" on several points. I -want- to like the guy, did he finally realize the gang-of-eight bill was a mistake...?
Rubio may have finally grown up and got his head screwed on straight...
he might be a reasonable pick for a VP.In Levin's free-flowing interview, I thought Rubio sounded much different than the debates, very appealing, and had a good handle on the issues. No fluff, he actually articulated conservative principles quite well. I can see he was off-his-game for the debates. This interview is worth watching / listening to.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 14, 2016, 10:41:12 AM
Rubio hit Trump squarely on the Tariff & TAX issue - said government is the single largest issue holding back American growth. Great interview, good insight, sounded rather "Reaganesque" on several points. I -want- to like the guy, did he finally realize the gang-of-eight bill was a mistake...?
Rubio may have finally grown up and got his head screwed on straight... he might be a reasonable pick for a VP.
In Levin's free-flowing interview, I thought Rubio sounded much different than the debates, very appealing, and had a good handle on the issues. No fluff, he actually articulated conservative principles quite well. I can see he was off-his-game for the debates. This interview is worth watching / listening to.
So he got his ass kick. Now he is thinking about being the governor of Florida next. I think I would change my strategy also. (game plan)
Quote from: walkstall on April 14, 2016, 11:15:11 AM
So he got his ass kick. Now he is thinking about being the governor of Florida next. I think I would change my strategy also. (game plan)
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It's like getting your ass kicked and knocked out cold, then getting up and saying "Fine... We're gonna be friends then!".
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
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It's like getting your ass kicked and knocked out cold, then getting up and saying "Fine... We're gonna be friends then!".
I think he is still looking for a job - any job. I can see Cruz finding something for him.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 14, 2016, 12:31:55 PM
I think he is still looking for a job - any job. I can see Cruz finding something for him.
I agree that he can claw back some credibility, but he'll have to undo the damage of his Gang of Eight blunder somehow. I do agree that Cruz can appoint him to something, as long as it's not related to immigration. He also has too much baggage with is finances and past schemes he tried to pull off, so I wouldn't put him in anything finance-related either.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
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It's like getting your ass kicked and knocked out cold, then getting up and saying "Fine... We're gonna be friends then!".
I was the last of 5 boys. I have a kid on my ass for 5 years in school. In our 6th year of school I had it with him. So this time I did not just walk away. I told him to back off, he ask me what I was going to do about it. So I punched him out with two blows. Back then you could do that, we became good friends after that. You don't grow up with 4 other brothers older then you and not know how to fight. LOL
Quote from: walkstall on April 14, 2016, 12:40:07 PM
I was the last of 5 boys. I have a kid on my ass for 5 years in school. In our 6th year of school I had it with him. So this time I did not just walk away. I told him to back off, he ask me what I was going to do about it. So I punched him out with two blows. Back then you could do that, we became good friends after that. You don't grow up with 4 other brothers older then you and not know how to fight. LOL
Getting in a fight with someone forced the two to respect each other. It's sad that fighting is frowned upon nowadays. In elementary school, etc., you fight, both tire out fast, and once there's an obvious winner, everyone is pulling that guy off anyway. It's sad kids don't get to do that anymore. It is one of the best character builders there is.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
I agree that he can claw back some credibility, but he'll have to undo the damage of his Gang of Eight blunder somehow. I do agree that Cruz can appoint him to something, as long as it's not related to immigration. He also has too much baggage with is finances and past schemes he tried to pull off, so I wouldn't put him in anything finance-related either.
He has some pretty good national security and foreign relations experience. Nothing real high, but below cabinet level.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 14, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
He has some pretty good national security and foreign relations experience. Nothing real high, but below cabinet level.
The thing is he's really sharp, so he could definitely be a soldier in the battle to take back DC, I agree. There's something about him that I want him to heal his credibility and fight on our side.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
The thing is he's really sharp, so he could definitely be a soldier in the battle to take back DC, I agree. There's something about him that I want him to heal his credibility and fight on our side.
Exactly. Eight years of Cruz as Prez, would be enough to mentor & fine tune a VP Rubio to step in & continue the Conservative rebirth of America. Very personable guy, but, he's got to prove he can control his impulsiveness. Jumping in with the gang of eight, I want to think he got suckered by liberals... better to get taken to the woodshed young than as a blithering 70yr old fool.... we got 3 of them running, eh?
I love Marco Rubio, and I think he'd be a great VP. I think he would be willing, because it would be a straighter path to the presidency in 8 years.
But strategically, I'm not sure what Rubio offers Cruz. I know Kasich could bring Ohio to the Cruz ticket. But that's probably all he'd bring.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
The thing is he's really sharp, so he could definitely be a soldier in the battle to take back DC, I agree. There's something about him that I want him to heal his credibility and fight on our side.
Agree, there is potential there. God knows he is way better than the much of the rest of the limp wristers in DC. Great debater...no. Great communicator...I think so. I think this thing just might grow him up a touch more where he needs to be. Hope so anyway...
By the way, I don't want people to think I'm a Rubio fan. I think he's an anti-American traitor and should never show his face in politics again. He should go back to being a lobbyist. My point is he could have been great, and I think in the end, time heals all, and he'd have to go on one hell of a conservative streak for me to ever take him seriously again. My point is it won't stop me from voting for Cruz, or damper my enthusiasm if he appointed Rubio to something.
And also, Rubio is the reason Cruz is still having to compete so hard. He could have dropped out weeks earlier and Cruz would be the nominee right now. He screwed us, and we can't just brush that off.
Quote from: Jasmine on April 14, 2016, 08:09:48 PM
But strategically, I'm not sure what Rubio offers Cruz. Now, there's a guy who needs to go on a nationwide "apology tour" and come out as a conservative.
Hard to say if Rubio even as a base of supporters.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 08:43:01 PM
By the way, I don't want people to think I'm a Rubio fan. I think he's an anti-American traitor and should never show his face in politics again. He should go back to being a lobbyist. My point is he could have been great, and I think in the end, time heals all, and he'd have to go on one hell of a conservative streak for me to ever take him seriously again. My point is it won't stop me from voting for Cruz, or damper my enthusiasm if he appointed Rubio to something.
MEH - I think he got suckered, it's hard not to like the guy.
Quote from: taxed on April 14, 2016, 10:20:31 PM
And also, Rubio is the reason Cruz is still having to compete so hard. He could have dropped out weeks earlier and Cruz would be the nominee right now. He screwed us, and we can't just brush that off.
YUP!!! And, Rubio started the "lyin Ted" business ... you didn't think Trump had an original thought, did you!? Rubio OWES Ted his delegates for starters, then he can apprentice under the real conservative, learn how NOT to get snookered, ... maybe he'd amount to something.
I'll probably be dead before that happens!
Does anyone think it is possible that Rubio will hang on to his votes until he can see what the outcome will be for giving them to the ultimate winner? God forbid...if Trump does really well and is on the verge of hitting the 1237 and Cruz is far enough back that Rubio's delegates won't help him anyway. Is it possible Rubio gives his delegates to Trump for a position or something?
Quote from: Fishman on April 17, 2016, 09:27:37 PM
Does anyone think it is possible that Rubio will hang on to his votes until he can see what the outcome will be for giving them to the ultimate winner? God forbid...if Trump does really well and is on the verge of hitting the 1237 and Cruz is far enough back that Rubio's delegates won't help him anyway. Is it possible Rubio gives his delegates to Trump for a position or something?
I just cant see it...hell, given the way Kasich is talking I cant even see him pairing up with Trump
Quote from: Fishman on April 17, 2016, 09:27:37 PM
Does anyone think it is possible that Rubio will hang on to his votes until he can see what the outcome will be for giving them to the ultimate winner? God forbid...if Trump does really well and is on the verge of hitting the 1237 and Cruz is far enough back that Rubio's delegates won't help him anyway. Is it possible Rubio gives his delegates to Trump for a position or something?
Based on the interview, nope. Again, based on the interview, he's probably going to give them to Cruz!
But.... He knew the audience would be relatively small, and conservative - like any smart politician, played to us, quite well. We'll see
what kind of guy he really is, soon enough.