Quote from: Gunbunny42 on March 24, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
With failure this time around, I can't see Obamacare getting repeal until after the 2018 mid terms.If Trump couldn't get the votes now he isn't going to suddenly have them in July or September, there's too many dems and rinos stinking up the place for that to happen.

2018 midterms might be a disaster. Assuming we dont get tax cuts and reform then there will be precious little reason for anyone to show to vote for reps.

Let me also say this about the  2018 midterms. No matter how  bad Obamacare gets i think reps using it as a campaign issue will fall on deaf ears. Afterall, we expected action now and got  nothing and the  only thing that will change the next  2 years is Obamacare get further established with more people making it even less likely it gets repealed. To be honest single  payer is now the  only way out  of this mess.

Quote from: ldub23 on March 25, 2017, 05:28:21 AM
Let me also say this about the  2018 midterms. No matter how  bad Obamacare gets i think reps using it as a campaign issue will fall on deaf ears. Afterall, we expected action now and got  nothing and the  only thing that will change the next  2 years is Obamacare get further established with more people making it even less likely it gets repealed. To be honest single  payer is now the  only way out  of this mess.

You completely left out TEA, why? And what gives you the idea the nation wants socialized medicine?
The dim party is dead because of it, and the RINO are close to dead trying to resurrect it.

Quote from: ldub23 on March 25, 2017, 05:28:21 AM
Let me also say this about the  2018 midterms. No matter how  bad Obamacare gets i think reps using it as a campaign issue will fall on deaf ears. Afterall, we expected action now and got  nothing and the  only thing that will change the next  2 years is Obamacare get further established with more people making it even less likely it gets repealed. To be honest single  payer is now the  only way out  of this mess.

You sound like your trying to sell something.  I see it as Conservatives saving our ass on not passing the bill. 

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2017, 06:10:19 AM
You completely left out TEA, why? And what gives you the idea the nation wants socialized medicine?
The dim party is dead because of it, and the RINO are close to dead trying to resurrect it.

What we saw yesterday was the successful culmination of all the TEA work that has been done since 2009. The naysayers have been trying bury TEA for eight years and have failed. We finally have elected enough conservatives in the House to affect outcomes. The Freedom Caucus now must be dealt with on all legislative matters. Ryan found out he cannot do anything without TEA. We still have much to do with all the RINO's in the senate.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2017, 07:51:25 AM
What we saw yesterday was the successful culmination of all the TEA work that has been done since 2009. The naysayers have been trying bury TEA for eight years and have failed. We finally have elected enough conservatives in the House to affect outcomes. The Freedom Caucus now must be dealt with on all legislative matters. Ryan found out he cannot do anything without TEA. We still have much to do with all the RINO's in the senate.

Yep!
This was a shot we've been readying to take for nearly a decade, and it was a direct hit through the heart of Marxists in both party's.
They now know we are a power to contend with on every level, nothing goes forward without first dealing with Conservatives. We have now turned the corner.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2017, 07:51:25 AM
What we saw yesterday was the successful culmination of all the TEA work that has been done since 2009. The naysayers have been trying bury TEA for eight years and have failed. We finally have elected enough conservatives in the House to affect outcomes. The Freedom Caucus now must be dealt with on all legislative matters. Ryan found out he cannot do anything without TEA. We still have much to do with all the RINO's in the senate.

The President did not say a thing about the Freedom Caucus, only that it was the Dem's fault that the RINO HC did not pass. 

I heard that Rep Adam Kinzinger has come out and declared that it's time for the GOP to leave those of the Freedom Caucus behind and begin negotiating with the Democrats.

"It's time"...? Gotta love how Kinzinger tries to spin it as if the GOP is still conservative and that the past decade of rubbing shoulders with the Dems didn't happen.

Quote from: mrconservative on March 25, 2017, 10:58:52 AM
I heard that Rep Adam Kinzinger has come out and declared that it's time for the GOP to leave those of the Freedom Caucus behind and begin negotiating with the Democrats.

"It's time"...? Gotta love how Kinzinger tries to spin it as if the GOP is still conservative and that the past decade of rubbing shoulders with the Dems didn't happen.

Further proof of the success of TEA.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2017, 11:16:00 AM
Further proof of the success of TEA.

We will see about that. If tax cuts dont occur then reps will be swept  out  in 2018 and Tea party will be nothing.

Quote from: walkstall on March 25, 2017, 07:38:46 AM
You sound like your trying to sell something.  I see it as Conservatives saving our ass on not passing the bill.

Im not selling anything. Every day that passes ingraines Obamacare further into the system and we already see where reps failed  now and  it only gets more difficult as each day goes  by. If tax cuts dont  materialize then reps will suffer massive congressional losses  in 2018 and  2020 and a dem president will be elected  in 2020 and the dems will "fix" Obamacare with single  payer.

Quote from: ldub23 on March 25, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
Im not selling anything. Every day that passes ingraines Obamacare further into the system and we already see where reps failed  now and  it only gets more difficult as each day goes  by. If tax cuts dont  materialize then reps will suffer massive congressional losses  in 2018 and  2020 and a dem president will be elected  in 2020 and the dems will "fix" Obamacare with single  payer.

So Trump has been in office for 65 days.  And your looking for a rabbit coming out of his hat.  To date he has broken not laws to get something done in office.  The GOP has not locked the door to keep out the DEM's.    He has to deal with the DEM's, the GOP, The MSM, and b o.   HE IS NOT GOD...     

Quote from: ldub23 on March 25, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
Im not selling anything. Every day that passes ingraines Obamacare further into the system and we already see where reps failed  now and  it only gets more difficult as each day goes  by. If tax cuts dont  materialize then reps will suffer massive congressional losses  in 2018 and  2020 and a dem president will be elected  in 2020 and the dems will "fix" Obamacare with single  payer.

Are you serious? How is killing another Commiecare Bill a failure? This was a TEA victory, a Marxist RINO failure, they got their asses Kicked, big time!

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2017, 04:46:44 PM
Are you serious? How is killing another Commiecare Bill a failure? This was a TEA victory, a Marxist RINO failure, they got their asses Kicked, big time!

Its a huge failure if tax cuts dont materialize. How can this be a victory if  obamacare is alive and well and becoming  more difficult to unravel each day?

Quote from: walkstall on March 25, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
So Trump has been in office for 65 days.  And your looking for a rabbit coming out of his hat.  To date he has broken not laws to get something done in office.  The GOP has not locked the door to keep out the DEM's.    He has to deal with the DEM's, the GOP, The MSM, and b o.   HE IS NOT GOD...   

Im not blaming Trump at all. In fact i would not be surprised if Ryan wanted this to fail. Trumps biggest enemy is the GOP.