Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 05:57:23 AMYou have MANY posts in this thread. Which one specifically would you like a response to?

You really know how to show your ignorance.

Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2021, 04:35:32 AMYa know, I'm the last person on this forum you want to avoid.
I suggest you reply to my earlier post you conveniently avoided.

Now that I'm on my PC, not my phone, I'm going to go back through every question you've asked me and answer them directly:

Q: So making shit up based on race is OK to be taught to kids, is that what you're saying?
A: I don't see theories, in general, as making shit up.

Q: The only racism that exists is being exacerbated by the Marxist Dim party! How can you not see that?
A: I believe there are racists in both parties and I also believe that a lot of the issue in the black community are self-inflicted.  I have no idea what this has to do with believing that the concept of CRT should be taught in some college courses.

Q: Seriously...You think that's all this shit is?
A: No, I'm sure there are some specifics that I'm not aware of and haven't mentioned.

Q: How is it you are so blind to the obvious?
A: I don't see it as being blind.  I see it as a difference of opinion

Q: Are you a sheep, or complicit in capitulating to the damage the DNC is inflicting on the country?
You do, at least, recognize what they're doing, Right?
A: This is a discussion about CRT, not political parties.

Q: I see, so in your world, BLM and antifa are good, all whites are supremacists, and a bigger govt is going to solve the problems it created?
A: No, not all.  I have no idea where you got that impression.

Q: How is it you can't see you're being manipulated, are you in your teens still?
A: I don't believe I'm being manipulated and I'm 46.

Q: Yet you refuse to accept the fact the DNC supports these radicals, why is that?
A: Because I don't believe they do.  I posted several quotes from Dems where they condemn violence, looting and damage
Q: You do not see this shit on the Right, there is no such fuckin animal as white supremacy, and we do like immigrants, just the legal ones.
A: There are white supremacists, KKK members and white nationalists in the US.  I'm sure some are Republican and some are Democrat.  I have no idea how this applies to a discussion about CRT.

Q: It your side doing all the damage to the country, will you at least be honest and admit that?
A: I'm a registered independent and voted Libertarian in the last 2 elections.  I haven't been registered as a Democrat since Clinton was in office.

Q: YES!!! Are you denying the entire party supports these Marxist movements?
A: I think Democrats largely support BLM, but not the violence, looting, etc

Q: When was the last time a Dim called for the party to condemn the movement, why is the DNC fundraising off the fascist movement?
A: They don't condemn the movements - they have condemned the violence, looting, etc

Q: You do know, the KKK was a Democrat movement, RIGHT?
A: I've heard something similar, but never researched it.  I really don't care how the KKK originated.

Q: The DNC is dead, yet you back a failed movement, why is that?
A: I don't back a party. I back ideas.  Both parties, and the majority of the politicians in them, suck, but I fail to see what this has to do with CRT or condemning of violence.  Actually, I don't even know what the condemning of violence has to do with this, either.  This was discussion about CRT.

A: What part of the word "LEFT" do you not get?
Q: Again.... this is a discussion about CRT, right.

A: How fuckin young are you?
Q: 46

Q: Seriously, how old are you? I'm guessing possibly, 20 something?
A: 46

Q: Which is it kid, are you really this fuckin stupid, or embarrassed because you supported a Marxist party, both?
A: I don't support parties - I support concepts.  What does this have to do with CRT

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 26, 2021, 02:28:37 PMShould we not teach kids about the Nazis, Muslim extremismand white supremacy, also?

I have never seen any "White extremism nor supremacy live in my life. I have experience black on White racism. I even see it regularly in entertainment.

Also, is the Nazis the only civilization that has killed people? Have they killed the most people? We, as modern society, seem to be enamored with Germany the way lefties call anybody "Nazis" for having a different opinion. Are you going to discuss how they built/expanded the Autobahn?

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 28, 2021, 11:56:25 AMWell, I posted several quotes just from Biden on this page, just a few posts above yours. Were you aware of any of those?

Here's some more examples:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

QuoteIt's unclear if anti-fascist activists are responsible for violence committed at protests this summer.

A fact-check from The Washington Post in June found that there was no link between violent protests and antifa. That's in part because "antifa is a moniker, not a single group," so it's difficult to attribute any violence directly to that movement, which is focused on opposition to fascism and racism.

This is how I know the Washington Post is full of shit. We saw it everyday. Do we need to pull up Andy's Tweets on Antifa? Do we need to pull up the video of BLM looting?

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 30, 2021, 09:33:10 AMI have never seen any "White extremism nor supremacy live in my life. I have experience black on White racism. I even see it regularly in entertainment.

Also, is the Nazis the only civilization that has killed people? Have they killed the most people? We, as modern society, seem to be enamored with Germany the way lefties call anybody "Nazis" for having a different opinion. Are you going to discuss how they built/expanded the Autobahn?

You're getting way too detailed.  I'm not talking about violence or death attributed to any specific group.  I'm talking about the fact that a) many theories are taught in college and b) we also teach about non-positive/destructive things like white supremacists/nationalist, kkk, radical islam, etc.  I see not basis for not at least making college kids aware, as part of maybe an elective class on race, of CRT.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 30, 2021, 09:44:23 AMThis is how I know the Washington Post is full of shit. We saw it everyday. Do we need to pull up Andy's Tweets on Antifa? Do we need to pull up the video of BLM looting?

The assertion was the no democrats have condemned the violence associated with some BLM/Antifa protests. I posted several quotes and a link that showed Democrats condemning violence, looting and destruction.  I don't see what WaPo has to do with anything I mentioned above.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 10:44:36 AMYou're getting way too detailed.  I'm not talking about violence or death attributed to any specific group.  I'm talking about the fact that a) many theories are taught in college and b) we also teach about non-positive/destructive things like white supremacists/nationalist, kkk, radical islam, etc.  I see not basis for not at least making college kids aware, as part of maybe an elective class on race, of CRT.

Thr only theories taught in education as a whole is anti-White, anti-male, and anti-American. And, this is not an elective. It is forced on young minds whether they like it or not.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 30, 2021, 12:06:40 PMThr only theories taught in education as a whole is anti-White, anti-male, and anti-American. And, this is not an elective. It is forced on young minds whether they like it or not.

I'm not surprised, at all, that you have that opinion.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 10:46:56 AMThe assertion was the no democrats have condemned the violence associated with some BLM/Antifa protests. I posted several quotes and a link that showed Democrats condemning violence, looting and destruction.  I don't see what WaPo has to do with anything I mentioned above.

So, you are acknowledging BLM/Antifa support violence, looting and destruction? If so, why won't democrats call them out by name?

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 30, 2021, 12:17:36 PMSo, you are acknowledging BLM/Antifa support violence, looting and destruction? If so, why won't democrats call them out by name?

I don't know much about Antifa's opinion on violence, looting, etc.  I'm am certain that BLM does not, as an organization, support violence. That doesn't mean that things don't happen, there aren't BLM members who don't initiate violence or opportunists don't use BLM protests to cause trouble.  The LARGEST majority of true BLM protests, around the world, were peaceful.  People, particularly Conservatives who don't seek out all information, don't realize just how many protests happened around the world, compared to how many included violence.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 12:17:17 PMI'm not surprised, at all, that you have that opinion.

I am not surprised, at all, that you act all innocent from the truth.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 10:46:56 AMThe assertion was the no democrats have condemned the violence associated with some BLM/Antifa protests. I posted several quotes and a link that showed Democrats condemning violence, looting and destruction.  I don't see what WaPo has to do with anything I mentioned above.

The assertion was no democrat has condemned antifa or blm for the violence they have done. The blanket statement that they condemn all violence does not cut it. Stop moving the goalposts.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 08:10:26 AMNow that I'm on my PC, not my phone, I'm going to go back through every question you've asked me and answer them directly:

Q: So making shit up based on race is OK to be taught to kids, is that what you're saying?
A: I don't see theories, in general, as making shit up.

The enemy often trys to hide their lies under the guise of 'theories', like the 'theory' of macroevolution, or the 'theory' of man made climate change, or the 'theory' of 72 genders. But to truly be a theory there has to be some evidence, and with CRT there simply isnt any evidence to support it at all. If you think otherwise please list the evidences here...

QuoteQ: The only racism that exists is being exacerbated by the Marxist Dim party! How can you not see that?
A: I believe there are racists in both parties and I also believe that a lot of the issue in the black community are self-inflicted.  I have no idea what this has to do with believing that the concept of CRT should be taught in some college courses.

Because you are wrong, there are no racists on the right. You are right or left based on your worldview, your philosophy, what you believe. Intellectually, Leftism embraces racisms while rightism rejects it. Racism demands big govt which the left loves and the right hates. You cannot be racist and conservatives while you cannot be not-racist and a leftist.

QuoteQ: Seriously...You think that's all this shit is?
A: No, I'm sure there are some specifics that I'm not aware of and haven't mentioned.

And those specifics define the movement.

QuoteQ: How is it you are so blind to the obvious?
A: I don't see it as being blind.  I see it as a difference of opinion

There can be no difference of opinion regarding facts. What I mean is that it is a fact that 2 plus 2 equals 4, no opinion matters at all. With CRT we are talking about facts, not opinions.

QuoteQ: Are you a sheep, or complicit in capitulating to the damage the DNC is inflicting on the country?
You do, at least, recognize what they're doing, Right?
A: This is a discussion about CRT, not political parties.

Wrong. Any discussion about CRT must also be about parties as only one party is pushing it. And thats the same party who has a reputation for pushing policies harmful to america in the past. In any discussion you must always look at the bigger picture. Who is pushing it? Why? What is their agenda and biases? Are they enemies of america first or not? This is called critical thinking.

QuoteQ: I see, so in your world, BLM and antifa are good, all whites are supremacists, and a bigger govt is going to solve the problems it created?
A: No, not all.  I have no idea where you got that impression.

We have that impression because the things you are saying are not original, they are all talking points used by the left and the MSM, who we all know are the enemies of America and are trying to destroy us. When you parrot the enemy we must figure you are the enemy...

QuoteQ: How is it you can't see you're being manipulated, are you in your teens still?
A: I don't believe I'm being manipulated and I'm 46.

Your belief doesnt matter here. The fact is you are either being manipulated or paid to push this propaganda you are in fact pushing.

QuoteQ: Yet you refuse to accept the fact the DNC supports these radicals, why is that?
A: Because I don't believe they do.  I posted several quotes from Dems where they condemn violence, looting and damage

So what? Those are moot points. They must condemn the ideology, the ideas, that harmful way of thinking that is BLM, antifa and CRT. On top of that, actions matter more than words. They SAY they condemn it but there are numerous example of them supporting these marxist ideologies thru donations or by hiring people connected to them. The evidence proves the dems support this evil.

QuoteQ: You do not see this shit on the Right, there is no such fuckin animal as white supremacy, and we do like immigrants, just the legal ones.
A: There are white supremacists, KKK members and white nationalists in the US.  I'm sure some are Republican and some are Democrat.  I have no idea how this applies to a discussion about CRT.

Thats a lie. First off being a republican DOES NOT make you a conservative as we have been fighting the RINO for along time for the GOP. Second, being a dem or RINO DOES make you a leftist since they have no comparable struggle between good and evil in their party since they are all evil fighting each other.

So regarding CONSERVATIVES, no absolutely not are there any KKK or white supremacists who are conservatives. They are all leftist as the ideology of racism  demands big govt, ie leftism, and is antithetical to conservatism. Srry but there is simply NO RACISM on the right whatsoever and unless you can show ANY EVIDENCE to the contrary you will simply have to agree.

QuoteQ: It your side doing all the damage to the country, will you at least be honest and admit that?
A: I'm a registered independent and voted Libertarian in the last 2 elections.  I haven't been registered as a Democrat since Clinton was in office.

But party doesnt really matter, you are still a version of leftist, thats what matters.
You are actively trying to confuse PARTY with IDEOLOGY. Your IDEOLOGY is the SIDE you are on, and your SIDE is out to destroy the nation as founded. They are quite open about that.

QuoteQ: YES!!! Are you denying the entire party supports these Marxist movements?
A: I think Democrats largely support BLM, but not the violence, looting, etc

Cant support one without the other. The ideology of BLM and CRT demands violence. Even if it didnt, the ideologies are still based on lies and designed to push marxism, as their leaders have admitted to being marxist.

QuoteQ: When was the last time a Dim called for the party to condemn the movement, why is the DNC fundraising off the fascist movement?
A: They don't condemn the movements - they have condemned the violence, looting, etc

Exactly! And thats why it doesnt count. Are you learning yet?

QuoteQ: You do know, the KKK was a Democrat movement, RIGHT?
A: I've heard something similar, but never researched it.  I really don't care how the KKK originated.

Then how do you think you are entitled to an opinion on this matter when you wont even do the basic research required to fully understand it and its history???

QuoteQ: The DNC is dead, yet you back a failed movement, why is that?
A: I don't back a party. I back ideas.  Both parties, and the majority of the politicians in them, suck, but I fail to see what this has to do with CRT or condemning of violence.  Actually, I don't even know what the condemning of violence has to do with this, either.  This was discussion about CRT.

I think ive covered this one above...

QuoteA: What part of the word "LEFT" do you not get?
Q: Again.... this is a discussion about CRT, right.

And again, the ones pushing the idea say alot about the idea itself.

QuoteA: How fuckin young are you?
Q: 46

Hard to believe.

QuoteQ: Seriously, how old are you? I'm guessing possibly, 20 something?
A: 46

Again, hard to believe, prove it or retract...       Just kidding, we dont want your birth certificate on here     

QuoteQ: Which is it kid, are you really this fuckin stupid, or embarrassed because you supported a Marxist party, both?
A: I don't support parties - I support concepts.  What does this have to do with CRT

But by supporting concepts you are supporting ideologies and those ideologies are pushed by certain parties and traitors in parties(RINOS)

Quote from: Possum on June 30, 2021, 01:21:01 PMThe assertion was no democrat has condemned antifa or blm for the violence they have done. The blanket statement that they condemn all violence does not cut it. Stop moving the goalposts.

They specifically condemned violence, looting, etc as a part of protesting.

Quote from: p1tchblack on June 30, 2021, 01:55:14 PMThey specifically condemned violence, looting, etc as a part of protesting.

You are dense, they did not condemn antifa/blm. Period.