Our Politicians Are Broken, Not Our Immigration System

Started by Chosen Daughter, January 24, 2016, 10:06:15 AM

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Chosen Daughter

Our Politicians Are Broken, Not Our Immigration System
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This article is spot on with our establishment failure to reign in immigration.  It is the reason that Trump has been able to build to a fever pitch in this election.  Our immigration problems could be fixed quite easily by enforcing the laws that we already have and not making new laws that make illegal immigrants want to come here in droves.  For one thing why would we create a special tax id so that illegals would be allowed to get mortgages and other loans?  These things are opposed to our immigration laws.  Health benefits, cash assistance, food stamps.....etc.  Almost all of the politicians ignore it, and even support it.  They hire them.  They raise them up as some super work force.  We can't fix it if we support it.  And it is obvious that the American people are desperate to stop it.  Not even realizing that Trump is one of the biggest illegal immigrant employers.  Come on get a clue.  Americans are supporting Trump because American politicians have done nothing and Americans are mad.

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/our-politicians-are-broken-not-our-immigration-system

Bernie Sanders 1 trillion infrastructure plan.  If you just read the article above you will see that Bernie Sanders wants to make sure that illegal immigrants get good paying jobs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/16/bernie-sanderss-claims-about-his-1-trillion-infrastructure-plan/

If you just read the above article and this link you would see that Trump favors illegal immigrants for his construction jobs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/they-say-they-arrived-in-the-us-illegally-now-theyre-working-on-trumps-dc-hotel/2015/07/06/9a785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

Well the saying from the establishment is that Cruz is hated by politicians.  I say politicians are hated by Americans.


Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

Dori

Actually, the system is broken, or never worked adequately.  Like with the visa program.  There is no system to track those who enter the country.  HS has said they don't know where those people are who had their visas revoked.  I bet they don't even know how to find most of those here on visas. 

It's been said that 40+% of illegals in this country, came here on visas and overstayed.  ????
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

mdgiles

The question I want to ask is, what countries did those visa overstayers come from; and if it's one of the EU countries are they Muslims?
"LIBERALS: their willful ignorance is rivaled only by their catastrophic stupidity"!

daidalos

#3
They have refused to implement/fix our immigration system on purpose.

For a reason.

If they did, implement or fix the current system so it would actually work.

The government wouldn't be able to justify setting up "checkpoints" to stop and harass and unConstitutionally search Americans who are doing nothing more than driving down the road they in part, as citizen's own.

Yeah that's a little dirty secret almost no one wants to even face up to.

Yes, our government is setting up so called "border check points" not at the borders, but well well within the borders of the U.S.

Sometimes as far as 100's of miles inside the U.S.

For example they once set one up on I-71 just south of Columbus Ohio. Yeah, we have a real bad problem with illegal invaders, going through Columbus Ohio to enter the U.S.  :rolleyes:

Another example:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf6_1364141975

This one was 350 miles, within the United States.

This is why the government is simply not serious about immigration. Notice the dog? That's a tool that cop is using, to search their vehicles without probable cause, or a warrant.

Those who know anything about being a dog handler know, drug sniffing dogs, do not "hit" on the scent of a human being.

They're trained to sniff drugs out.

Remember, that the excuse the government gives us for creating them/setting these up. Is interdiction of illegals.

Not DEA drug enforcement.

People you should not believe the excuse the government gives of illegal invader interdiction.

As a justification for infringing upon the citizen's Constitutional right of travel without being harassed, asked questions or asked for your papers and searched by the government and all without a warrant.

This is why the government claims it's doing these. That being the prevention of foreign invaders and or terrorists entering the nation illegally.

And yet we have 12+ million of them here already anyway and among them god only knows how many sleeper cell terrorists.

They're doing a real bang up job aren't they.

If you think Government harassment of the citizen is a good thing, then the answer is yes.

If you think Government disrespect and failure to uphold the Citizen's Constitutional rights is a good thing.

If you think preventing illegal invaders and or terrorists from just entering our country whenever they want too is a good thing.

Then the answer is decidedly and clearly no they are not, doing too good a job.
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

Chosen Daughter

Quote from: Dori on January 24, 2016, 10:32:41 AM
Actually, the system is broken, or never worked adequately.  Like with the visa program.  There is no system to track those who enter the country.  HS has said they don't know where those people are who had their visas revoked.  I bet they don't even know how to find most of those here on visas. 

It's been said that 40+% of illegals in this country, came here on visas and overstayed.  ????

Yes I would agree with you but is it that they just don't want to track them?  Or there is no system to do that?  Are you sure???  If it is the latter then I would say we should cease issuing visa's until we can make sure the program is followed to the law.
Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

Chosen Daughter

Quote from: daidalos on January 24, 2016, 02:22:11 PM
They have refused to implement/fix our immigration system on purpose.

For a reason.

If they did, implement or fix the current system so it would actually work.

The government wouldn't be able to justify setting up "checkpoints" to stop and harass and unConstitutionally search Americans who are doing nothing more than driving down the road they in part, as citizen's own.

Yeah that's a little dirty secret almost no one wants to even face up to.

Yes, our government is setting up so called "border check points" not at the borders, but well well within the borders of the U.S.

Sometimes as far as 100's of miles inside the U.S.

For example they once set one up on I-71 just south of Columbus Ohio. Yeah, we have a real bad problem with illegal invaders, going through Columbus Ohio to enter the U.S.  :rolleyes:

Another example:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf6_1364141975

This one was 350 miles, within the United States.

This is why the government is simply not serious about immigration. Notice the dog? That's a tool that cop is using, to search their vehicles without probable cause, or a warrant.

Those who know anything about being a dog handler know, drug sniffing dogs, do not "hit" on the scent of a human being.

They're trained to sniff drugs out.

Remember, that the excuse the government gives us for creating them/setting these up. Is interdiction of illegals.

Not DEA drug enforcement.

People you should not believe the excuse the government gives of illegal invader interdiction.

As a justification for infringing upon the citizen's Constitutional right of travel without being harassed, asked questions or asked for your papers and searched by the government and all without a warrant.

This is why the government claims it's doing these. That being the prevention of foreign invaders and or terrorists entering the nation illegally.

And yet we have 12+ million of them here already anyway and among them god only knows how many sleeper cell terrorists.

They're doing a real bang up job aren't they.

If you think Government harassment of the citizen is a good thing, then the answer is yes.

If you think Government disrespect and failure to uphold the Citizen's Constitutional rights is a good thing.

If you think preventing illegal invaders and or terrorists from just entering our country whenever they want too is a good thing.

Then the answer is decidedly and clearly no they are not, doing too good a job.

Wow well I have figured they just aren't fixing it on purpose but hadn't thought of that.  I had read about check points many years ago.  Even heard of some kind of camps they are fixing up for Americans.  Have links?
Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

Chosen Daughter

you know that is the weirdest thing.  I swear that video was not there when I posted my last post.  I watched it.  That is crazy.  But no matter what had they been in control of immigration it would not give them any excuse to harass Americans.  And that makes sense they need a reason.  I could tell you what I think check points are.  I think they are preparation for Marshal Law and eventually Tribulation.  Get ready.

Dori,

Remember now that very issue recently came up after the San Bernardino terrorist attack.  You are right they don't have a way to track.  What does Homeland Security do?
Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

daidalos

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on January 24, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
you know that is the weirdest thing.  I swear that video was not there when I posted my last post.  I watched it.  That is crazy.  But no matter what had they been in control of immigration it would not give them any excuse to harass Americans.  And that makes sense they need a reason.  I could tell you what I think check points are.  I think they are preparation for Marshal Law and eventually Tribulation.  Get ready.

Dori,

Remember now that very issue recently came up after the San Bernardino terrorist attack.  You are right they don't have a way to track.  What does Homeland Security do?
You mean besides harass citizen's in Airports? Like this guy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358616/Purple-Heart-Marine-treated-shamelessly-TSA-tried-explain-roadside-bomb-injuries-prevented-raising-right-arm-body-scan.html

It sit's in D.C. and issues "warnings" to local law enforcement agencies, calling law abiding citizens and veterans "potential terrorists". Because they support Constitutional rule of law, and are Christians. And acts like an outreach program for muzzies.

One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

Billy's bayonet

What System?

There IS no system....or little of it.

Think about this, 15 million (OR MORE) illegals running around in the country and something like 30% are Visa overstays, Student or otherwise.

Now how in the world, with all the sophisticated computer systems available to the Govt nowadays can we not keep track of 5 million people, they can damn sure keep track of the rest of us come tax time, and they can keep track of 30 million guns thru mandatory registration.....but they can keep track of somebody who overstays a VISA and CONTACT them at their address of record?.....Cmon....that isn;t a system....it's a BS excuse.

You'd think somebody with half a brain cell would say something like....well, we're going to slow down the issuing of Visa's until we can clear up this mess with  5 million overstays .....but no, they don;t want to, they keep issuing more and more people ignore them.

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WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

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carlb

Of course, any politician statesmen who opposes the millions invading our country is just a "RACIST!" We no longer have a say as to who is BLESSED to live among us.

daidalos

Quote from: carlb on January 24, 2016, 05:42:50 PM
Of course, any politician statesmen who opposes the millions invading our country is just a "RACIST!" We no longer have a say as to who is BLESSED to live among us.
In liberaland they might believe that it's racist to say who can or cannot enter and live in our society/nation.

But in the real world, American's have every right to say who will or will not enter their nation.

American's are who have built it, American's are who pay for it, and it is American's which maintain our nation/society.

Not these invaders who think they have some made up right to just walk on in whenever they wish too.

You are absolutely right however when you say that the powers that be in Washington say/think we don't have any right to have a say.

But much to the chagrin of many in D.C. today, our Constitution clearly says otherwise. Not only do we as citizens (the voters) have a say.

The States themselves also have a say.

And I would strongly urge every voter here, to give this government their say, in the form of the voting booth come election time.

It is way past time. We as Americans not only take back our nation, from both the big wig's sitting on K street and the marxists in our Congress/White House.

But time we take OUR nation back, from what are, under our laws, as well as international law illegal invaders who have no business even being in our nation to start with.

Proof of that:

See: U.S. Customs and immigration law: http://www.uscis.gov/

See: U.N. Charter: http://www.un.org/en/charter-united-nations/

The issue of illegal invaders running rampant in our nation is a very very serious one for the United States.

Both from a national security viewpoint, as in stopping terrorists from walking on in.

As well as a financial/economic viewpoint, as in they take jobs from American Citizens, and they cost the citizen's billions in providing everything from housing and clothing and food to healthcare, job training and schooling.

Because of that, in my own not so humble opinion, any candidate that has ever, even once, voiced their support for amnesty for these illegal invaders, or a "path to citizenship" for these illegal invaders, has disqualified themselves from being suitable to hold public office.

This voter intends to let that be reflected in their choice of candidate.
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

Chosen Daughter

Quote from: daidalos on January 24, 2016, 04:41:56 PM
You mean besides harass citizen's in Airports? Like this guy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358616/Purple-Heart-Marine-treated-shamelessly-TSA-tried-explain-roadside-bomb-injuries-prevented-raising-right-arm-body-scan.html

It sit's in D.C. and issues "warnings" to local law enforcement agencies, calling law abiding citizens and veterans "potential terrorists". Because they support Constitutional rule of law, and are Christians. And acts like an outreach program for muzzies.

That is sick.  Its obvious that it is useless.
Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

Chosen Daughter

But again it comes to the topic of the post.  Its only broken because politicians are worthless to do anything about it.
Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory.

daidalos

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on January 24, 2016, 08:41:06 PM
But again it comes to the topic of the post.  Its only broken because politicians are worthless to do anything about it.
So long as we let them get away with it yep.

Here's hoping 2016 will bring, real, actual, Constitutional change.
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)