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Title: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2016, 01:27:51 PM
I thought it might be interesting if we were to point out Trump's, ahem...not so Conservative positions.
I'll start...

Trump advocated higher taxes, just like universal health care, Commiecare, only he claims he can fix it, Wall Street bailout, expanded government powers to take private property (Kelo).
Thanks to Taxed and Hoofer we have TARP and his support of Planned Parenthood.
Adding to that, he supported the 2008 Auto Bailout.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: taxed on April 17, 2016, 01:37:07 PM
Supported TARP:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/02/17/donald.trump.issues/index.html?_s=PM:POLITICS

QuoteAnd yet, Trump also repeated his support for a major issue that's anathema to many Tea Party activists and other conservatives: the bank bailout.

"You had to do something to shore up the banks, because ... you would have had a run on every bank," Trump said.

He said he acknowledged some conservatives' view that ailing banks should have been allowed to fail: " 'If they go out of business, everybody would, that's fine.' "

Previously, in a December 2008 CNN interview, Trump also expressed praise for the auto bailout.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 01:27:51 PM
I thought it might be interesting if we were to point out Trump's, ahem...not so Conservative positions.
I'll start...

Trump advocated higher taxes, just like universal health care, Commiecare, only he claims he can fix it, Wall Street bailout, expanded government powers to take private property (Kelo).

Beat me to it!

For starters he still supports Planned Parenthood- thanks to his daughter. 4-17-2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/us/politics/ivanka-trump-donald-trump.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
QuoteInside her father's campaign, which has brazenly eschewed the advice of political experts, Ms. (Ivanka) Trump is one of a few people who can, on occasion anyway, influence the candidate's thinking. She failed to persuade Mr. Trump to apologize for accusing Mexico of sending its "rapists" over the border, according to a person close to Mr. Trump who declined to be named because he was not authorized to speak for the campaign. But, this person said, she successfully convinced her father to maintain his qualified support for Planned Parenthood in the face of Republican criticism.

News media and GOPe is curiously -silent- about this... they'd throw the Pro-livers overboard in a heartbeat, if they could.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
After a phone call to Bill and Hillary it took very little time for Trump to become a republican.  But then he was able to get his democratic staff with no problems.  I don't think Trump is happy with his staff.   :lol:
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2016, 02:17:09 PM
This is getting good. :lol:

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Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Possum on April 17, 2016, 02:24:26 PM
 How about his views on gun control.

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/

Once again, he was for the ban before he was against it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  where have I heard that?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 17, 2016, 02:24:26 PM
How about his views on gun control.

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/

Once again, he was for the ban before he was against it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  where have I heard that?
Excellent! I'll add it to the list. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: admin on April 17, 2016, 02:48:41 PM
Trump Supports....

Trump advocated higher taxes

Supports universal health care

Supports assault weapon ban

Wall Street bailout

2008 Auto Bailout

Supported the Marxists stimulus package

Supports Iran Deal

Kelo

Trumps own adviser (Michael Cohen) can't even vote for him, like Trump, he too is a lib, and like others on Trump's campaign are registered Dims, including his own kids.

Trump Supports Ethanol Subsidies.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Bronx on April 17, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
How about eminent domain. Just like his liberal counter parts he loves other people stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmM4ZBoppNQ
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2016, 05:44:55 AM
Quote from: Bronx on April 17, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
How about eminent domain. Just like his liberal counter parts he loves other people stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmM4ZBoppNQ
Ooops, I missed Kelo. Thanks
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 08:10:08 AM
He views middle America as fly-over country, like most other leftists.  Skipped campaigning in Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska.

Obama implied we were a bunch of stupid redneck idiots, clinging to our guns and religion, incapable of deeper thought than where the next 6-pack was coming from.

Same egotistical, "I'm the smartest one in the room" mindset.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: tac on April 18, 2016, 08:35:22 AM
Of the 5 running for the WH, only one is a Constitutional Conservative, and that is the one I'll be selecting. The rest are nothing but Obozo clones, and 8 years of that is enough for any country.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: daidalos on April 18, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2016, 01:27:51 PM
I thought it might be interesting if we were to point out Trump's, ahem...not so Conservative positions.
I'll start...

Trump advocated higher taxes, just like universal health care, Commiecare, only he claims he can fix it, Wall Street bailout, expanded government powers to take private property (Kelo).
Thanks to Taxed and Hoofer we have TARP and his support of Planned Parenthood.
Adding to that, he supported the 2008 Auto Bailout.
He has also spoken out in support of policy which attacks and seeks to diminish if not out right strip us of our first, second, fourth, and fifth amendment rights as citizen's of the United States too.

For that reason alone, he's not eligible for the spot in my book.

But alas I really do fear, that unless there is some miracle in the next two months.

We are going to wind up with the choice of Hitlery, or Trump. Both of whom through their words and in Hitlery Clinton's case past actions we know neither one is serious about the rule of law or upholding our Constitution.

Thanks yet again to the LIV crowd out there, that's the choice we're going to wind up with.

I am personally so disgusted by it, I've thrown my hands up and said whats the use?

If after eight years, of Obozo and liberal rule, these two jackass's are who the people choose.

Then these idiots who have elected these two, deserve to lose their liberty.

After all, that's would be nothing less, than giving them precisely what they asked for.


http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Donald_Trump_Gun_Control.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/floyd-abrams-trump-amendment-article-1.2547908

Just two links for examples. But there are several hundred more.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: daidalos on April 18, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
He has also spoken out in support of policy which attacks and seeks to diminish if not out right strip us of our first, second, fourth, and fifth amendment rights as citizen's of the United States too.
Evidence/Link?

QuoteFor that reason alone, he's not eligible for the spot in my book.

But alas I really do fear, that unless there is some miracle in the next two months.

We are going to wind up with the choice of Hitlery, or Trump.

Thanks yet again to the LIV crowd out there, that's the choice we're going to wind up with.
Uh, no...Trump is already dying, and has absolutely no shot at winning.
Turn off Rush and think for yourself.

QuoteI am personally so disgusted by it, I've thrown my hands up and said whats the use?

If after eight years, of Obozo and liberal rule, these two jackass's are who the people choose.

Then these idiots who have elected these two, deserve to lose their liberty.

After all, that's would be nothing less, than giving them precisely what they asked for.
Wait, you haven't shot yourself yet?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Possum on April 18, 2016, 02:19:48 PM
  And here is one for the veterans out there.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/25/donald-trump-veterans-john-mccain

Seems you no longer have to form your own opinions on who to back, trump will do it for you.

this clown is no different than hillery.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: tac on April 18, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 18, 2016, 02:19:48 PM
  And here is one for the veterans out there.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/25/donald-trump-veterans-john-mccain

Seems you no longer have to form your own opinions on who to back, trump will do it for you.

this clown is no different than hillery.

Thanks for that link. I checked and I am not on that list of veteran supporters.

Trump is a despicable con man, and not a very good one at that. I hope those vets who see their name on that list and did not agree to let him use their name sue his mangy ass.

I'm retired Navy and I would no more support Trump that I would Jane Fonda or Swiftboat Kerry!  :cursing:
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 05:34:54 PM
Which best describes Donald Trump:

a.  So liberal he cannot defend his ever changing positions without resorting to liberal talking points.
b.  So smart (he thinks), his foreign policy adviser is "himself".
c.  So stupid, although he knew the rules for Colorado, he failed to follow them.
d.  So lazy, he hasn't put together any policy (his hired wonks did it for him, in english he'd have trouble comprehending).
e.  So self-righteous, he doesn't need to apologize, and said he never has.
f.  So creepy, he said he'd DATE his daughter, if he could.
g.  So untruthful, he tries to brand other candidates, which we know is Donald projecting his own faults on Ted, Ben, Rubio...
h.  So insecure, it's rumored he's bought Christie, Palin, Carson and many, many other politician's endorsements.
i.  So unsure of himself, he rarely ever sits down one-on-one, FACE-TO-FACE, for an unscripted interview.
j.  So negative, his followers can't think of anything but "getting even" - a farce.
k.  So "out-there" in kooky land, the KKK jumped in to endorse him, and he half-heartedly MEH.. did he condemn them?
l.  So tough, he mocks a Vietnam Vet, over his imprisonment, a loser - John McCain, yet skirted enlistment himself.
m.  So fake, his face is poorly painted, hair dyed brown, and he tries to impress us with his arm-candy wife, who we're sure... didn't marry him for money.
n.  So broke, he's too embarrassed to show the public those tax returns.
o.  So popular, his negatives with Republicans are well above 60%, maybe 70% or 80%!  His support is from crossover Democrats.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: tac on April 18, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Trump is a despicable con man, and not a very good one at that. I hope those vets who see their name on that list and did not agree to let him use their name sue his mangy ass.

I'm retired Navy and I would no more support Trump that I would Jane Fonda or Swiftboat Kerry!  :cursing:

It's your loss.  Go tell it to the USS IOWA & friends:

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Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: taxed on April 18, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 07:45:50 PM
It's your loss.  Go tell it to the USS IOWA & friends:

He has cool supporters!  How much did he rent them for would you say?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 18, 2016, 07:45:50 PM
It's your loss.  Go tell it to the USS IOWA & friends:

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You mean the "Make America Great Again" Fraud/Scam fundraiser? :lol:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trump-and-veterans-for-a-strong-america/
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: taxed on April 18, 2016, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
You mean the "Make America Great Again" Fraud/Scam fundraiser? :lol:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trump-and-veterans-for-a-strong-america/

Good ol Donnie... never met a hustle he didn't like.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 18, 2016, 09:37:35 PM
Donnie Bails also tries to shut down anyone who disagrees with him. He's Goebbels with better housing....
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: quiller on April 19, 2016, 03:13:00 AM
Quote from: tac on April 18, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Thanks for that link. I checked and I am not on that list of veteran supporters.

Trump is a despicable con man, and not a very good one at that. I hope those vets who see their name on that list and did not agree to let him use their name sue his mangy ass.

I'm retired Navy and I would no more support Trump that I would Jane Fonda or Swiftboat Kerry!  :cursing:

Pipe me on board for that as well.

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Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:27:53 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 05:34:54 PM
Which best describes Donald Trump:

a.  So liberal he cannot defend his ever changing positions without resorting to liberal talking points.
b.  So smart (he thinks), his foreign policy adviser is "himself".
c.  So stupid, although he knew the rules for Colorado, he failed to follow them.
d.  So lazy, he hasn't put together any policy (his hired wonks did it for him, in english he'd have trouble comprehending).
e.  So self-righteous, he doesn't need to apologize, and said he never has.
f.  So creepy, he said he'd DATE his daughter, if he could.
g.  So untruthful, he tries to brand other candidates, which we know is Donald projecting his own faults on Ted, Ben, Rubio...
h.  So insecure, it's rumored he's bought Christie, Palin, Carson and many, many other politician's endorsements.
i.  So unsure of himself, he rarely ever sits down one-on-one, FACE-TO-FACE, for an unscripted interview.
j.  So negative, his followers can't think of anything but "getting even" - a farce.
k.  So "out-there" in kooky land, the KKK jumped in to endorse him, and he half-heartedly MEH.. did he condemn them?
l.  So tough, he mocks a Vietnam Vet, over his imprisonment, a loser - John McCain, yet skirted enlistment himself.
m.  So fake, his face is poorly painted, hair dyed brown, and he tries to impress us with his arm-candy wife, who we're sure... didn't marry him for money.
n.  So broke, he's too embarrassed to show the public those tax returns.
o.  So popular, his negatives with Republicans are well above 60%, maybe 70% or 80%!  His support is from crossover Democrats.
So not only is he a lib, he's a sociopath as well?
Though is anyone actually surprised? When he tried to steal an old widows home using the power of govt as a weapon, proved beyond a shadow of a doubt he has no morals, which instantly dismisses any claims to Conservatism.
But did he ever apologize for such repulsive behavior? I'm just glad the old woman had more principal than Trump and drug his worthless ass through the dirt and exposed his corrupt ass for the rest of us to see.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:28:54 AM
Updated list.

Trump Supports....

Trump advocated higher taxes

Supports universal health care

Supports assault weapon ban

Wall Street bailout

2008 Auto Bailout

Supported the Marxists stimulus package

Supports Iran Deal

Kelo

Trumps own adviser (Michael Cohen) can't even vote for him, like Trump, he too is a lib, and like others on Trump's campaign are registered Dims, including his own kids.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: daidalos on April 19, 2016, 05:43:50 AM
Add stolen valor to the list of reasons not to vote for Mr. Trump.

That's what it is, he is doing by claiming the support of veterans who were never asked, and never said they  would or do support his campaign.

He's trying to capitalize on their valor, and service to our nation.

It's despicable, dirty, underhanded, not to mention an intentional attempt at misleading of the general public.

I will never ever understand why it is that so many are just A-ok with, and continue to vote for people who run for public office.

All the while right to their faces, they are being lied to by that person. As was the case when it was Obozo running for the office.

As is clearly now, the case with Trump also it would seem.

Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: taxed on April 19, 2016, 01:42:22 PM
Trump supports amnesty:

http://danaloeschradio.com/donald-trump-supports-amnesty

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Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: taxed on April 19, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
http://heatst.com/politics/video-donald-trump-barack-obama/

This one would have been perfect if they tailed it off with their answers to partial-birth abortion (which were the same).
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2016, 02:04:20 PM
Trump loves high taxes.

But the fact is, that 25 percent for high-income people — for high-income people — it should be raised substantially with the understanding that if you invest, you can get it down and down substantially below that number. The incentive was taken away when the tax rates came down for high-income people. And I say leave the middle, leave the low lower. But people with money have to have the incentive. The dentist, the doctors — they have to have the incentive to invest. And there's no incentive.

http://twitchy.com/2016/04/19/trump-adviser-posts-video-of-donald-trump-bashing-ronald-reagans-1986-tax-reform-as-expert-witness-for-democrats/
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
And about Trump's finances? He's broke!!!

Donald Trump's Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn't Registered to Fly

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Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times
Over the past several months, Donald J. Trump has crisscrossed the country making dozens of campaign stops in places like Sioux City, Iowa, and Jackson, Miss., often in his sleek Cessna jet. There is just one hitch: The plane's registration is expired.

Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show the aircraft's registration lapsed on Jan. 31. Laura J. Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed that the plane's registration was not in good standing and said the owner had not renewed it.

Mr. Trump's plane could be grounded for several days, or even months, while the issue is sorted out. In the event of an accident, the company that insures the plane could use the expired registration as a reason to decline any claims.

The F.A.A. could also fine or assess other penalties against the owner, the operator or both; Mr. Trump owns the plane through a limited liability company. Though it is unlikely that the agency would seek the maximum penalty, flying with no registration could result in a civil penalty of up to $27,500, a criminal fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment for up to three years, it said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.html
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Dori on April 19, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
And about Trump's finances? He's broke!!!

Donald Trump's Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn't Registered to Fly

LOL

This must be a mistake, he has smart people working for him that take care of this stuff. 

Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: Dori on April 19, 2016, 04:34:57 PM
LOL

This must be a mistake, he has smart people working for him that take care of this stuff.
Then he needs to fire himself. :laugh:

The price of flying privately does not come cheap. The Trump campaign has paid a company that Mr. Trump owns more than $3 million for campaign-related travel since he announced his candidacy.

The price to register an aircraft, however, does come cheap: It costs only $5, and the registration is valid for three years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.html
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: quiller on April 19, 2016, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:52:05 PM
Then he needs to fire himself. :laugh:

The price of flying privately does not come cheap. The Trump campaign has paid a company that Mr. Trump owns more than $3 million for campaign-related travel since he announced his candidacy.

The price to register an aircraft, however, does come cheap: It costs only $5, and the registration is valid for three years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.html

My bad memory says that a few of his delegates were cheapskates as well and refused to pay a modest filing-fee. If it's not other people's money, nothing doing. If you can't get a tax write-off on your own company, then what's a shaky business/political scam GOOD for, hey?

Now the sober part. Were his mechanics as sloppy in keeping records on parts-wear?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Jasmine on April 19, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Trump said he would impose harsh taxes on U.S. companies who take their business abroad. That is a very liberal viewpoint. So is his desire to be "neutral" in the Israel-palestinians conflict.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: walkstall on April 19, 2016, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: Jasmine on April 19, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Trump said he would impose harsh taxes on U.S. companies who take their business abroad. That is a very liberal viewpoint. (http://so%20is%20his%20desire%20to%20be%20"neutral")in the Israel-palestinians conflict.

Depends what day of the week it is.  Or is that what hour of the day it is?  Trump is a democrat, he is for it before he was against or is that against before he was for it?  (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1208.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc366%2FPlagueEleven%2FSmileys%2Fundecided.gif&hash=db88cdd595585472d8a4bb29597e2457b071fcb9)
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: quiller on April 20, 2016, 02:48:33 AM
Quote from: Jasmine on April 19, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Trump said he would impose harsh taxes on U.S. companies who take their business abroad. That is a very liberal viewpoint. So is his desire to be "neutral" in the Israel-palestinians conflict.

Taking a business overseas is killing it here, making Trump's plan a corporate death tax. Is this much different (other than scale) than what government already does for inheritances, estates and the like? But I seem to recall that the U.S. already has one of the highest corporate tax structures. You can go nowhere but down if you want to compete. Staying at the top of that list, you won't.

Trump won't get a hard leftist bunch like the RINOs and the Donks to go along with the sort of tax cuts which WOULD work and attract fresh industry. It's the same as the 12-year tax abatements at a state level (Michigan) to build and operate a large business. TWELVE YEARS! Imagine federal income if "too many" companies want to come here...to succeed.
Title: Trump’s jet not registered to fly
Post by: tac on April 20, 2016, 04:57:24 AM
Trump's jet not registered to fly

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.html

The dumb fool can't even keep his plane registered to fly!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Hoofer on April 21, 2016, 05:04:03 AM
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/19/video-trump-trashes-reagan-tax-cuts-as-democratcalled-expert-witness-in-1991-n2151131

QuoteIt's not especially remarkable that House Democrats once summoned fellow liberal Donald Trump to Capitol Hill to testify about the alleged adverse effects of Ronald Reagan's 1986 tax reforms. What is somewhat remarkable is that this clip wasn't dug up by a conservative opposition research team, but rather by Trump's own campaign -- which proceeded to blast it out into the public bloodstream as evidence that "Mr. Trump" is an all-caps EXPERT on economic matters. And what conclusion did his "expertise" produce? I'll let Trump answer that question in his own words. Again, this comes via Trump's social media director, who -- ta da! -- can't vote for his boss today because he's not a Republican:

What's remarkable about this?  SIX YEARS of Reagan tax cuts, the economy turned around, while everyone was celebrating and benefiting from a revived, robust economy - the Democrats trot out... drum roll....  Mr. Negative - Donald Trump.... to deny the obvious..?   

Quotefrom the transcript:
So this tax act was just an absolute catastrophe for the country, for the real estate industry, and I really hope that something can be done — as Congressman Thomas recently said, that something can be done to change at least parts of it, because it has taken all incentive away from investing in real estate, and real estate really means so many jobs...by having cut the high income tax rates to 25 percent, as an example, people don't have the incentive any more to invest. They're saying, "Why should I take a chance on investing in low or moderate-income housing? I might as well just pay the tax." But the fact is, that 25 percent for high-income people — for high-income people — it should be raised substantially with the understanding that if you invest, you can get it down and down substantially below that number...I was asked to come by the Chairman, and I make this plea that, if something isn't done to put the incentive back — I mean, we're no different right now than the Soviet Union. They have no incentive, and we have no incentive. And if something isn't done to quickly put the incentive back, this country is going to be in very deep problems.

sigh...  :thumbdown:   Trump's claims were dead wrong, the roaring economy lasted through over a dozen more years.   4 out of the 5 candidates want to raise your taxes - guess which one is most like Reagan and wants to cut taxes? 
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Sauce on April 22, 2016, 04:49:28 AM
Support for Ethanol subsidies, while not a lefty position exclusively, certainly not a conservative position.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 22, 2016, 04:49:28 AM
Support for Ethanol subsidies, while not a lefty position exclusively, certainly not a conservative position.
Good catch, and yes, it's a pure leftist position. The fact that RINO back it is proof of that.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 07:21:47 AM
Here's close Trump friend, Joe Scarborough, admitting this morning that Trump is a Democrat...

therightscoop.com/morning-joe-trump-is-a-centrist-democrat/ (http://therightscoop.com/morning-joe-trump-is-a-centrist-democrat/)
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Dori on April 22, 2016, 07:42:50 AM
Quote from: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 07:21:47 AM
Here's close Trump friend, Joe Scarborough, admitting this morning that Trump is a Democrat...

therightscoop.com/morning-joe-trump-is-a-centrist-democrat/ (http://therightscoop.com/morning-joe-trump-is-a-centrist-democrat/)

He should know......

Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: supsalemgr on April 22, 2016, 08:01:47 AM
The sad thing about all of this is his followers will ignore this information. Now as discussed in another thread the Trump campaign what he has been saying and how has said is a sham. Do these followers not see they have been snookered?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Hoofer on April 22, 2016, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 22, 2016, 08:01:47 AM
The sad thing about all of this is his followers will ignore this information. Now as discussed in another thread the Trump campaign what he has been saying and how has said is a sham. Do these followers not see they have been snookered?

Driving down the road, sometimes.... this kinda stuff just hangs with ya, "What is it about these Trumpettes, that they would trade liberaty, and freedom for "getting" the GOPe?"  Then it occurred to me, Trump supprters are literally ONE ISSUE voters.

For a moment, mentally run through the REAL things that make America the greatest country in the world, and ask yourself, to which candidate holds those positions.  Clearly, it is Ted Cruz.  Ted thinks like a constutional conservative, talks like one, and has a convincing track record as a solid conservative.

Now ask yourself, "Of the socialism, populism, communism, liberalism positions, who holds those positions?  Let's say EMBRACES those positions?"  Even if we threw out decades of supporting the most liberal positions, and started with the last 6 months - Donald Trump is still the standardbearer for Liberal causes.

Are Trump supporters ignorant of these problem areas?   
NOPE.  They still like Donald Trump.

With Donald Trump switching positions, from conservative to liberal, are supporters abandoning him in droves?
NOPE.  They still hang on, fanatically.    it's something else, some emotional attachment.

What is the common theme among democrats, liberals and conservative (so called), who are ardant Trump supporters... they feel left out, disenfranchised, stepped on, abused by the Dem & Rep - they want someone who will Stand Up for them and take the fight to these elitists.  Listen to Trump's speeches, it's all about "getting even" with somebody.  Call it the "get even" party platform. 

Trump supporters don't care WHAT position Donald takes, just so long as he takes the fight to the "bad guy" ... who today is actually someone just like himself, rich, aloof, uncaring about women, etc., and tomorrow could quickly become those who like the 1st, 2nd, etc., amendments - you and I.

This is LIBERALISM on parade, their tactics, their liberal policies, their socialism...

These Trump supporters would rather burn down the house, than call the pest control and weed out the vermin.  So long as they follow him, he's ok with that.

The Get EVEN Party.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: supsalemgr on April 22, 2016, 09:39:24 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 22, 2016, 09:09:18 AM
Driving down the road, sometimes.... this kinda stuff just hangs with ya, "What is it about these Trumpettes, that they would trade liberaty, and freedom for "getting" the GOPe?"  Then it occurred to me, Trump supprters are literally ONE ISSUE voters.

For a moment, mentally run through the REAL things that make America the greatest country in the world, and ask yourself, to which candidate holds those positions.  Clearly, it is Ted Cruz.  Ted thinks like a constutional conservative, talks like one, and has a convincing track record as a solid conservative.

Now ask yourself, "Of the socialism, populism, communism, liberalism positions, who holds those positions?  Let's say EMBRACES those positions?"  Even if we threw out decades of supporting the most liberal positions, and started with the last 6 months - Donald Trump is still the standardbearer for Liberal causes.

Are Trump supporters ignorant of these problem areas?   
NOPE.  They still like Donald Trump.

With Donald Trump switching positions, from conservative to liberal, are supporters abandoning him in droves?
NOPE.  They still hang on, fanatically.    it's something else, some emotional attachment.

What is the common theme among democrats, liberals and conservative (so called), who are ardant Trump supporters... they feel left out, disenfranchised, stepped on, abused by the Dem & Rep - they want someone who will Stand Up for them and take the fight to these elitists.  Listen to Trump's speeches, it's all about "getting even" with somebody.  Call it the "get even" party platform. 

Trump supporters don't care WHAT position Donald takes, just so long as he takes the fight to the "bad guy" ... who today is actually someone just like himself, rich, aloof, uncaring about women, etc., and tomorrow could quickly become those who like the 1st, 2nd, etc., amendments - you and I.

This is LIBERALISM on parade, their tactics, their liberal policies, their socialism...

These Trump supporters would rather burn down the house, than call the pest control and weed out the vermin.  So long as they follow him, he's ok with that.

The Get EVEN Party.

Nailed it!  :thumbup: They are blinded by their anger and Trump's rhetoric.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: admin on April 22, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
UPDATED:

Trump Supports....

Trump advocated higher taxes

Supports universal health care

Supports assault weapon ban

Wall Street bailout

2008 Auto Bailout

Supported the Marxists stimulus package

Supports Iran Deal

Kelo

Trumps own adviser (Michael Cohen) can't even vote for him, like Trump, he too is a lib, and like others on Trump's campaign are registered Dims, including his own kids.

Trump Supports Ethanol Subsidies.

Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Fishman on April 22, 2016, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: Dori on April 22, 2016, 07:42:50 AM
He should know......

Exactly, who would know better?
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: daidalos on April 22, 2016, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2016, 04:52:05 PM
Then he needs to fire himself. :laugh:

The price of flying privately does not come cheap. The Trump campaign has paid a company that Mr. Trump owns more than $3 million for campaign-related travel since he announced his candidacy.

The price to register an aircraft, however, does come cheap: It costs only $5, and the registration is valid for three years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.html
Solar I"m not understanding something here. How is it that the FAA and airports are allowing a plane, that is unregistered to fly in U.S. Airspace.

Man we don't even allow a car to go down the road unregistered in the U.S.

But a plane? After the attacks of 9-11? That's hard to believe Solar.

And if it is true, then I would suggest we as a nation need to have a very serious discussion.

Because the TSA, FAA, and the United States Army and Airforce. Aren't doing their jobs.

And in the process are creating a very serious national security issue. As well, all of us should know now that we are post 9-11.
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Fishman on April 22, 2016, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: admin on April 22, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
UPDATED:

Trump Supports....

Trump advocated higher taxes

Supports universal health care

Supports assault weapon ban

Wall Street bailout

2008 Auto Bailout

Supported the Marxists stimulus package

Supports Iran Deal

Kelo

Trumps own adviser (Michael Cohen) can't even vote for him, like Trump, he too is a lib, and like others on Trump's campaign are registered Dims, including his own kids.

Trump Supports Ethanol Subsidies.

Supports using the bathroom that you feel is the most appropriate vs using the one that was designated for your genitalia
Title: Re: Recapping Trump's Leftist Qualities
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: Fishman on April 22, 2016, 02:09:12 PM
Supports using the bathroom that you feel is the most appropriate vs using the one that was designated for your genitalia
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OH YEAH! :biggrin: