Presidents SOTU Thread

[Possum]

In my view Cruz would be a good president. However, he is still a Washington creature and would have operated within those parameters. Trump is totally out of the box and that is what makes him so effective and popular with the "folks".

I can not remember who said it nor can I find it, and I apologize for that, but someone called Trump a patriot and that hit it on the head. That word describes Trump perfectly. Because of that, his faults, (and we all have them) don't matter. Libs can not understand why we still back Trump even after his romp with the hooker came out, well, we did not vote for him to teach us morals, we voted for him to fix the country. Which he is doing quite well.

[walkstall]

I would say Trump has set a new standard for the presidency, for others to follow.     When it's BS call it BS. 

[supsalemgr]

With folks like this on our side ...

Trey Gowdy on the Memo: Contents Do Not Discredit Mueller's Investigation

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trey-gowdy-on-the-memo-its-contents-do-not-discredit-muellers-investigation/

The leftists running around claiming the "Memo" is designed to discredit Mueller is nothing but a distraction from the facts. Good for Gowdy.

[Solar]

Students Hate Trump's SOTU Quotes...Until Finding Out They're Actually Obama's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7C6kH-LbpI

[supsalemgr]

Another excellent example of LIV's.

[Solar]

Another excellent example of LIV's.

I hate to say it, but it's the reason the LSM has been able to keep the Memo from making a lot of obvious damage to the Dims.
Libs aren't smart enough to understand just how damaging the Memo is, also they are used to being lied to, their eyes gloss over when you mention corruption, they've been calloused by the party and by comparison, the Memo was dry, there wasn't anything salacious in it, the Dims got caught playing politics. That's all these libs see, and fail to grasp the "George Orwell's 1984 Connection" to the dangers of using govt as a weapon.

As horrible as the Marxist administration was, the memo didn't meet the expected hype by the GOP, though in truth, it did, but without drama, libs ignore it and social media goes back to whining about Kardashians.

[Billy's bayonet]

One of the reasons there is not a greater Hue and cry is because we are producing morons in these so called HIgher Learning Institutes. It's all Marxist indoctrination....what the hell do these young people learn anymore except how to be a SJW?  None of them know anything about the Law, they sure don't know the Constitution, no ethics and professionalism...work ethic...whats that?...how to sue my employer because he won't hire illegals or said hello to one of the new female interns?

Who wants to hire people like that?

[Solar]

Not "Good For Gowdy!"

First: Why does Gowdy think that directly contradicting what Trump said (memo discredits the investigation) a good thing?

Can anyone remember a time when Obama said something and any Democrat contradicted what he said?

There are seven or eight so called republicans who side with Gowdy such as Lindsey Graham .. why is that?

Two:
Tom Fitton is the head guy from Judicial Watch!

The guy who has been doing the job Congress (Republicans) should have been doing for years!

You need to read more. Gowdy is on the same page as Trump.

[supsalemgr]

Not "Good For Gowdy!"

First: Why does Gowdy think that directly contradicting what Trump said (memo discredits the investigation) a good thing?

Can anyone remember a time when Obama said something and any Democrat contradicted what he said?

There are seven or eight so called republicans who side with Gowdy such as Lindsey Graham .. why is that?

Two:
Tom Fitton is the head guy from Judicial Watch!



The guy who has been doing the job Congress (Republicans) should have been doing for years!

I believe you misinterpreted what Gowdy said and what I meant. He was criticizing the democrats for how they were trying to distract from what the memo said.

[Sauce]

Not "Good For Gowdy!"

First: Why does Gowdy think that directly contradicting what Trump said (memo discredits the investigation) a good thing?

Can anyone remember a time when Obama said something and any Democrat contradicted what he said?

There are seven or eight so called republicans who side with Gowdy such as Lindsey Graham .. why is that?

Two:
Tom Fitton is the head guy from Judicial Watch!

The guy who has been doing the job Congress (Republicans) should have been doing for years!

I'm beginning to believe in the "elaborate ruse" long game theory (See these Thomas Wictor stories).   He thinks some who we think are black hats are actually white hats, and some seemingly gray hats are in on the long game and a lot of white hats in the media aren't privy to the big picture, and can't be... guess we will see, its a fun read at anyways.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/960000307143913473.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/959872429433565184.html

[Solar]

Sure doesn't sound like it?

As I said .. Why the contradiction or to be more precise ... Why say anything that 'sounds' contradictory?

Gowdy on Memo: Russia Probe Valid With or Without It

http://www.newser.com/story/254964/gowdy-on-memo-russia-probe-valid-with-or-without-it.html

My point is, Trump and Gowdy both, are on the same page here. Trump is letting the Mueller investigation continue and Gowdy Gowdy merely said why it should continue.
There are at least 5 more memos coming out, why stop now, while the enemy continues to commit suicide?

[walkstall]

How can a Russia probe based upon phony, made up DNC 'evidence' still be considered valid?

I understand why the other information should come out, (cat out of bag), I just don't see a need (or validity) for the Mueller/Democrat witch-hunt to continue?

I see you have not dug a well by hand and then had to get out, on your own.   The deeper the hole the harder to get out.

[Solar]

How can a Russia probe based upon phony, made up DNC 'evidence' still be considered valid?

I understand why the other information should come out, (cat out of bag), I just don't see a need (or validity) for the Mueller/Democrat witch-hunt to continue?

Shhh, it's not being talked about, but word is, he's turned on the Dims and will continue to dig up anything out there.
Remember, the Dims threatened Trump not to fire Mueller, and why fire a guy you know won't find one iota of Russian collaboration?
Sun Tzu tactics, never interfere with the enemy when he's shooting himself in the foot.

Truth is, there never was a Trump/Russia connection, and who better to prove it, than the guy Dims want investigating.
Fiction writers couldn't write a better script.

[Sauce]

Shhh, it's not being talked about, but word is, he's turned on the Dims and will continue to dig up anything out there.
Remember, the Dims threatened Trump not to fire Mueller, and why fire a guy you know won't find one iota of Russian collaboration?
Sun Tzu tactics, never interfere with the enemy when he's shooting himself in the foot.

Truth is, there never was a Trump/Russia connection, and who better to prove it, than the guy Dims want investigating.
Fiction writers couldn't write a better script.

Which would also explain why Rosenstein made the SC directive so open ended, so the investigation could turn to the FISA abuse.....in theory

[Billy's bayonet]

How can a Russia probe based upon phony, made up DNC 'evidence' still be considered valid?

I understand why the other information should come out, (cat out of bag), I just don't see a need (or validity) for the Mueller/Democrat witch-hunt to continue?

Now the left is saying that it isn't about Russia anymore it is about Trump obstructing Justice by firing Comey. There were ample grounds to fire Comey when he admitted he leaked information to the media, that is grounds for firing.

Frankly I don't see how they get either one. The whole "Trump colluded with Russia because he had hookers pee on a bed Obamao slept in" doesn't, never did and never will make sense. Maybe at one time in our society such a thing if true might be "leverage" but this isn't the 1950's or the 1960's cold war footing.

Let's suppose Trump actually did that....so what?...I think it's kinda funny actually.  Such a thing isn't against the law, and even if it is indicia of a sick sense of humor or even worse, a perversion, so what?  How can such a thing be used as leverage over Donald Trump a CIVILIAN businessman, nobody gives a rats ass, it's something of an Animal House prank a lot of people would cheer him on.

Then consider the "proof" or rather lack thereof in this matter. As I have said many times on these pages and elsewhere, there is no way any Russian agent or this clown Steele could obtain actual proof in the way of Photographs, a video or a recording of such supposed act ....impossible. Trump is no fool, he knows how a Soviet style "honey trap" works...the use of hookers and prostitutes to compromise people.  Second, his security detail, made up of a lot of ex secret service agents, FBI (Ironically) and former Cops would NEVER allow such a thing and have established countermeasures. They would set up shop in any Hotel suite to be occupied by there protectee weeks in advance and DISMANTLE THE ENTIRE ROOM AND ITS CONTENTS looking for bugs, wire's and other spy devices, well knowing how those Russian spys operate.

And if someone were to produce some Russian hookers who testifies to this, yeah right, the word of a hooker, someone who does the most degrading sex acts for money doesn't have a lot of credibility in the US or Russia.

If you stop and consider some of these points you see how IMPROBABLE this whole dossier is.  WITHOUT Proof, ie recordings, photos, tapes etc, even sworn testimony by some Russian whore, it constitutes NOTHING BUT UNSUPPORTED HEARSAY. ANd Unsupported hearsay is NEVER evidence, and NEVER permitted in a court of law.

Now here is the last thing to ponder before I shut up and go away.

These hearings have only brought out incremental steps of Obamao admin abuses and crimes. Each week the ripples from the rock thrown in the water widen to ensnare more FBI agents, Govt lawyers and various Obamao era Naybobs

Why would we want to stop that?