Prediction Thread

[Solar]

So you are part of military industrial complex. figures
If it's so inefficient wonder why solar systems are popping up on roof tops like crazy?
It's all just predatory corporations selling the public solar systems in some kind of big fraud?
We need a regulation to fix that!

You do know that Gov subsidizes nearly half the cost of a grid tie system, right?

retired from the military industrial complex? then you must have a pension? negotiated by a union perhaps?

Nope, I draw a military pension.

I am self employed and work 24/7 (on call)
So yes you do see commies under the bed!
Mark my words, the OW will shake this country later this year along with the 99%

The OWS group is funded by a commie rag and they are not 99% they are more like .0001%.

drill baby drill.
fact is we are drilling at capacity. rigs that can go deep are booked years in advance. If you're an oil worker and out of work, you are a lazy bum because oil workers are in demand.

We are not at capacity on Federal lands, the left has stonewalled all development via red tape.
My how appropriate, Red tape.

Did you know Germany is quitting nuclear power?

Yes, they are complete fools, that doesn't mean we have to be as stupid as they are.

http://www.pressherald.com/business/germany-stop-nuclear-power-reactors-offline-energy-risks.html

Leading the world green electricity race are 1) Iceland and 1) Norway, both generating a full 100% of their electricity from green sources -- Norway gets 99% from hydro and 1% from other renewable sources of energy; Iceland has, as many people know, a good deal of geothermal power (27%), with hydro making up the remaining 73%.

Coming in third is 3) Costa Rica, which gets 94% of its electricity from green sources: 76% hydropower and 18% from other renewable sources (largely geothermal).

Fourth place is occupied by 4) Brazil, with 87% hydropower and other renewable sources of electricity. 5) Colombia holds down fifth place with 80% renewable electricity (all but 1%, again, hydropower).

Hydro is not included in the Green energy BS, but you knew that, Right?
Hydro is an excellent option, but the Dims will not allow any new projects.
When was the last major dam project built in this country and why haven't we built any since?
You might just figure out that the Dims do not want as as free as you think to develop our energy sources.

you ignore the waste product generated that we still don't know what to do with. That's radioactive and dangerous for thousands of years.
Our great, great, great, great, great, grand kids can worry about that. why should we care.

Look up Yucca mountain depository, privately funded and own, yet Hussein closed it, care to guess why?

and when the oil runs out, HOPEFULLY they will have invented a substitute for oil.

YOU are aware of how many things are made from oil that is NOT used for our cars!

Oil is a renewable resource and is not running out, ever!

You ignore what happened in japan.

You ignore the fact that these plants are completely un-insurable and if they go critical, we the people are responsible for the damages which could make large parts of the country uninhabitable.
\We have these things called earthquakes, they break Nuke plants!

wonder why Germany is stopping nuke plants?

The Japanese plant was not only outdated, but poorly designed, they put the back up generators below ground and the Tsunami over swept the plant knocking out the generators.
Quakes are not really a factor, in the event of a quake, the system is instantly shut down by computers connected to sensing devices hundreds of miles away.

Got news for you, just because we like socialist policies does not equate to communism.
Communism is what the right likes to brand anything they want to vilify!

Where do you think communism is rooted?
Its rooted in socialism. Remember what Hitler's party was called?

old tactic.  shows your age.. you a cold war warrior?

With age comes wisdom...

Reagan tripled the national debt chasing THAT paper tiger. Good job conservatives!

And the end result was the downfall of the USSR

STAR wars! what a joke. We spent how much?? you got to be proud of that.

AND like Russia could have EVER done anything?  they could barely feed themselves, let alone take over the world!
So much for intelligence gathering. or perhaps it was just the military wanting to keep the money flowing to them.

Where do you think ramjet engine technology came from?
But that's irrelevant, the USSR was a threat, but I can only assume you get your information form lib sites, since they don't teach the truth in the PC school system.

[Cryptic Bert]

You can't fix stupid and this clown is dumber than Joe Biden on acid...

[Solar]

You can't fix stupid and this clown is dumber than Joe Biden on acid...

I just give him the facts, its up to him to learn.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Where have Socialist policies worked? Europe? Last I checked the Eurozone's sinking faster than the Lusitania. Latin America? Sure, if you like being run by a bunch of thugs with a Peron complex.

Elaborate your argument.

Lets see.
Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Australia.
All have some form of universal health care or government involvement in health care.
Most with cradle to grave benefits.
all have REGULATIONS.

All rated by Forbes magazine as a better place to do business than here.

All rated by the heritage fund as a better place to do business than here

Canada had no housing bubble, NO banking crisis.  They had regulations to stop the craziness that was our banking/subprim/no verification loans debacle.

[Cryptic Bert]

Lets see.
Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Australia.
All have some form of universal health care or government involvement in health care.
Most with cradle to grave benefits.
all have REGULATIONS.

All rated by Forbes magazine as a better place to do business than here.

All rated by the heritage fund as a better place to do business than here

Canada had no housing bubble, NO banking crisis.  They had regulations to stop the craziness that was our banking/subprim/no verification loans debacle.

Small problem. Their population is a fraction of ours and they have a progressive tax system. Oh and they look to the US for security.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Oil is a renewable resource and is not running out, ever!

I have to start here Solar, but seriously.
This better be a typo.
Or post some links to this new info.
This really should not even be a subject of a debate.
Typo right?

[Solar]

I have to start here Solar, but seriously.
This better be a typo.
Or post some links to this new info.
This really should not even be a subject of a debate.
Typo right?

I knew you wouldn't believe it, but then you aren't in the energy field, but I am and keep up on everything related to energy.
They have been claiming peak oil since the days of the Oklahoma boom, but technology has always stayed ahead of the game.
It's a big ass planet and to assume the doom sayers are correct, is akin to believing that computer models predicting AGW is right as well.
Point is, we know only a small percentage of how the Earth actually works and its pure arrogance to create laws based on ignorance and thats just what the left is doing.
http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

The OWS group is funded by a commie rag and they are not 99% they are more like .0001%.

Tell me, what ""commie rag" (this is going to be good I know)

We are not at capacity on Federal lands, the left has stonewalled all development via red tape.
My how appropriate, Red tape.

I said they were at capacity of RIGS. I grew up in the oil patch, worked the rigs as a youth.
BIG rigs that can drill deep are all busy!

If GOD himself told you there was oil 10,000 feet below your feet, it would take you months to get a rig AND that's if you offered BIG money.
Offshore rigs are years in advance.  There are not enough rigs!
So they whine about something that's not real. The oil companies just want the gov to sell them more land.

We should nationalize them all and pay off the debt that way. Minerals too while we are at it.

Hydro is an excellent option, but the Dims will not allow any new projects.
When was the last major dam project built in this country and why haven't we built any since?
You might just figure out that the Dims do not want as as free as you think to develop our energy sources.

I need some proof other your printing it, that the Dems are holding up Dams.
DO not lump it into the wide "regulations" category and if you do, provide a link to the "situation" that demonstrates it to be real.

4 states are planning/building hydro right now, in spite of the Dems it seems.

http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/energy/renewable/hydro.php

Look up Yucca mountain depository, privately funded and own, yet Hussein closed it, care to guess why?

Closed NO, on hold yes.
AND WHY, because the people of NEVADA are NOT happy!

With age comes wisdom...

with age should comes the knowledge that one is NOT always right and must be able to take in info and readjust his opinion accordingly.
(budda-modernized)

But that's irrelevant, the USSR was a threat, but I can only assume you get your information form lib sites, since they don't teach the truth in the PC school system.

Yes the USSR had some big guns.
But lets face facts, shall we?
after the "fall" it turned out that they couldn't make squat that would run or stay together.
Their weaponry was second rate.
their economy was in a shambles and they imploded because of internal pressures.

We KNOW all this after the fact.
WHY did the intelligence community not know this?

To think that they were not aware of the USSR's shortcomings internally is ludicrous!
The "cold war" was perpetuated and inflamed by the military./intelligence folks, to keep the bucks rolling, just like they keep the wars drums pounding now, keep the buck rolling.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Point is, we know only a small percentage of how the Earth actually works and its pure arrogance to create laws based on ignorance and that's just what the left is doing.
http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm

By your very admission, we don't know squat! Yet you are ready to base the path forward on info you admit is "theoretical".
the linked article says
"Also not known, Kennicutt said, is whether the injection of new oil from deeper strata is of any economic significance, whether there will be enough to be exploitable. The discovery was unexpected, and it is still "somewhat controversial" within the oil industry."

SO you advocate the exact same thing you say the Dems are doing, only the exact opposite extreme.

Hell YA!  we got oil forever!

Well no Solar they did not say that. They said the wells "Maybe" refilling.
BUT not all wells. just some.

AND maybe it's just draining off some other deposit that we already counted.

You best find some better info to prove this case or this LIBERAL rates your claim of "Oil is a renewable energy"
as "PANTS on FIRE" rumor!

Not to mention it is NOT renewing!  it's flowing in from some other deposit.

SO it will still run out, maybe not as soon.

Who cares about future generations.

[Solar]

Tell me, what ""commie rag" (this is going to be good I know)


I said they were at capacity of RIGS. I grew up in the oil patch, worked the rigs as a youth.
BIG rigs that can drill deep are all busy!

If GOD himself told you there was oil 10,000 feet below your feet, it would take you months to get a rig AND that's if you offered BIG money.
Offshore rigs are years in advance.  There are not enough rigs!
So they whine about something that's not real. The oil companies just want the gov to sell them more land.

We should nationalize them all and pay off the debt that way. Minerals too while we are at it.

I need some proof other your printing it, that the Dems are holding up Dams.
DO not lump it into the wide "regulations" category and if you do, provide a link to the "situation" that demonstrates it to be real.

4 states are planning/building hydro right now, in spite of the Dems it seems.

http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/energy/renewable/hydro.php
Closed NO, on hold yes.
AND WHY, because the people of NEVADA are NOT happy!
with age should comes the knowledge that one is NOT always right and must be able to take in info and readjust his opinion accordingly.
(budda-modernized)
Yes the USSR had some big guns.
But lets face facts, shall we?
after the "fall" it turned out that they couldn't make squat that would run or stay together.
Their weaponry was second rate.
their economy was in a shambles and they imploded because of internal pressures.

We KNOW all this after the fact.
WHY did the intelligence community not know this?

To think that they were not aware of the USSR's shortcomings internally is ludicrous!
The "cold war" was perpetuated and inflamed by the military./intelligence folks, to keep the bucks rolling, just like they keep the wars drums pounding now, keep the buck rolling.

Sheesh, you sure jump all over the map, so lets once again, take one at a time.
Hetre is proof that the OWS group is nothing but a bunch of idiot commies.
Its a very long read but well worth it, here is a short excerpt.

Adbusters zine is the group that promoted the OWS movement, a Canadian magazine, they are nothing but commies preaching the destruction of our culture.
Her is part of an expose` on the rag mag itself.

Imagine a world without McDonald's, Nike, or Kraft Foods. A world where the budget-conscious and time-strapped have nowhere to grab a quick bite, where almost no one drives a car, where television is extinct. Sound pretty bleak? This is the utopian vision of the Adbusters Media Foundation.   
Why do Adbusters writers and editors hate personal choice so much? Because their utopia would be a nightmare for most Americans. "What makes you think you have the right to drive around with a ton of metal wrapped around you," asks the September/October 2003 issue, "the right to twist a tap and get hot water, the right to flick a switch and get your house warmed up?" Were the Adbusters group to get its way, hundreds of years of progress would vanish.   
"Plentitude is American culture's perverse burden," Kalle Lasn writes in Culture Jam. The twenty-first century's increasing food supply, labor-saving technologies, improved life expectancy -- he and his organization would like to remove those "burdens."   
Judging from its magazine, Adbusters wants us to make do with fewer of the conveniences and technological advances we take for granted.     
Food? "[E]very meat eater is responsible for the death of 2000 animals in his or her lifetime," the November/December 2002 issue tells us. That issue, featuring a photograph of pigs juxtaposed with Nazi death camp prisoners, may have inspired People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals' outrageous "Holocaust on Your Plate" exhibit.   
The car? "[A]rguably the most destructive product we humans have ever produced," Lasn writes. Even refrigerators contribute "noise pollution," so he suggests their total elimination.   
For Lasn, the postwar period was the height of American happiness and things have only gotten worse since then. The simpler time he urges us back to, however, seems more like the 1550s than the 1950s. Lasn's vision "means turning away from fast foods and superstores and embracing farmers' markets and the family kitchen; away from hothouse tomatoes and toward your own local supplier, and eventually, perhaps, your own garden plot." It seems that he wants a return to subsistence living or even hunter-gathering -- although eating meat may also be forbidden in his "paradise."   
The cost of this brave new world? Lasn recommends: "Not just a carbon tax, but a global across-the-board pricing system."  The price he gives of an "ethical" car? One hundred thousand dollars. An "ethical" tank of gas? A bargain at $250. The rich would certainly enjoy the lack of traffic.   
And Adbusters casually dismisses arguments for personal freedom as mere "infotoxins." Consumers, in Lasn's world, are nothing but cult members, conditioned by greedy advertisers.

http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/36-adbusters

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Sheesh, you sure jump all over the map, so lets once again, take one at a time.
Hetre is proof that the OWS group is nothing but a bunch of idiot commies.

Well i am going to have to subscribe to adbusters, they seem like a very "on top of it" group.
(at least it wasn't "Time" or something)

Seems they did "suggest" the wall street occupation to a MILLION people and some of them decided it was a good idea.
They certainly are not funding it in any way!

I got to send them money!

OW is going to make a scene this year and have an impact like you have never seen before.

It's going to be 60's Vietnam protests  and sit ins powered by twitter and facebook.

[Solar]

Well i am going to have to subscribe to adbusters, they seem like a very "on top of it" group.
(at least it wasn't "Time" or something)

Seems they did "suggest" the wall street occupation to a MILLION people and some of them decided it was a good idea.
They certainly are not funding it in any way!

I got to send them money!

OW is going to make a scene this year and have an impact like you have never seen before.

It's going to be 60's Vietnam protests  and sit ins powered by twitter and facebook.

No, its going to be the Dim convention riot of 1968 like they are promising.
And look how well that turned out..

You really need to understand one simple premise here, these people are what are commonly referred to as Useful Idiots by the communist.
Once the commies achieve their stated goals, these people will most likely be sent to labor camps.
Study your history, its been repeated often enough.
And you wonder why it is I see a commie threat?
Hell, the Dims are backing these useful idiots.

One other point, look up Fabian socialist, that is what Hussein ascribes to.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

No, its going to be the Dim convention riot of 1968 like they are promising.
And look how well that turned out..

You really need to understand one simple premise here, these people are what are commonly referred to as Useful Idiots by the communist.
Once the commies achieve their stated goals, these people will most likely be sent to labor camps.
Study your history, its been repeated often enough.
And you wonder why it is I see a commie threat?
Hell, the Dims are backing these useful idiots.

One other point, look up Fabian socialist, that is what Hussein ascribes to.

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god that's funny!

You were a "cold warrior" too long my friend.

Maybe you need an INTERVENTION!


Fabian socialist sounds good to me!

I am all for a socialist/capitalist country like Canada!

My house would not have lost half it's value if some Canadian style regulations had been in place here!

[Solar]

:)) :)) :)) :))
god that's funny!

You were a "cold warrior" too long my friend.

Maybe you need an INTERVENTION!


Fabian socialist sounds good to me!

I am all for a socialist/capitalist country like Canada!

My house would not have lost half it's value if some Canadian style regulations had been in place here!

It wasn't a joke, that is exactly what they claim it will be like.
But seriously, you really need to understand Marxism, which is what Fabian socialists are, they started the movement the day Marx died as a tribute to his legacy.
They felt they could use Marxism as their guide for total control over peoples lives, but without the bloodshed.

There is something to be said for those of us that have seen the degradation of our country and its culture over the decades, but for you to happily jump on the progressive band wagon of the socialists, speaks volumes about your lack of experience in life.
Crack a history book, you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

It wasn't a joke, that is exactly what they claim it will be like.
But seriously, you really need to understand Marxism, which is what Fabian socialists are, they started the movement the day Marx died as a tribute to his legacy.
They felt they could use Marxism as their guide for total control over peoples lives, but without the bloodshed.

There is something to be said for those of us that have seen the degradation of our country and its culture over the decades, but for you to happily jump on the progressive band wagon of the socialists, speaks volumes about your lack of experience in life.
Crack a history book, you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.

Solar, I have been around the planet twice.

lived in the poorest places on the planet, worked for the Man and seen how the "have nots' are treated by the "haves"

I have seen just how cheap a life is in the 3rd world.

Been to  Tibet and meditated with the monks, been inside a secret police dungeon in the middle east.
Been and done and seen it all.

I have lived under Scandinavian governments and it's not so bad.

Only in America do you have the ability to die in the streets poor and hungry!

AND that's the basic problem in one sentence!
America is off course all right.