Prediction Thread

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Hardly...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

wow Boo man, that certainly disproved my post about cutting tax loopholes for big business.
The conservative Rasmussen poll certainly proves nothing, except that many Americans live day to day with their heads in the sand. 
Wait til info like the loop hole bill comes out in debates!

AND YES, I think the general population IS concerned that we are in a budget hole yet oil companies and big business, still get tax rebates AND not one GOP member of the senate was for ending it!

here's another great GOP plan.

S.1738 - Economic Growth and Jobs Protection Act of 2011
another GOP bill to reduce the capital gains tax by 3%. That's going to help the deficit!!
You guys do remember that the top tax rate was over 80% until Reagan came in (who tripled the national debt!!)

our economy was booming then, but now you just chant "cut taxes, cut taxes".  Like that worked in the past 30 years!

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1738/actions_votes
AND another

H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes

Sponsored by a Republican, to allow  corporations to bring in engineers and scientists who will work CHEAPER than US counterparts. So this is an anti unemployment bill.

Good for corporations BAD for Americans

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3012/show

and another
HR 2021

is a bill to get around the CLEAN AIR act so they can drill in the continental shelf.
(that's where all our fish come from!)


You remember They did campaign on the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, platform!

BUT, they have no job creation bills!

They need to wait for the economy to crash again so they can get their greedy little hands on the congress again!

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

solar want's some answers to his point by point responses to me.

Quote from: Just_NO_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
So you guys hear the news about the GDP UP 2.8% in the fourth quarter!
unemployment down!
AND how about the increase in exports!  Big increase over the last administration.

solar's response:
How exactly has Hussein increased exports?  Make this one good, please.

Well solar, since he gets blame for job loss and creation, due to the mere fact he is in office, he gets the same credit for exports being UP, just by being in office.
can't have it both ways my conservative little friend.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade
as you can see by the link. exports were in the crapper as BUSH left office and they have grown ever since.  CREDIT Obama!

OH and manufacturing levels are also high.
(Problem is we make MORE product with LESS workers due to automation.)

SOLAR's response:
We should still be listening to 8-track tapes?  What is your logic?


THIS was a factual response??

My logic is "even though manufacturing is at a high level, due to automation less WORKERS are needed.
So in other words unemployment is still high even though manufacturing is HIGH as well.

Not sure what your "8 tack" quote is supposed to PROVE.

10 straight months of growth since the stimulus took hold!

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/g17/current/

Solars response:
Yeah, it's really skyrocketing. Any growth is in spite of Hussein.

SO that's a factual response?? Here you proceed to ignore the data and just put it down to "dumb luck"
same deal here solar, if Obama gets the blame for the economy, he gets the credit for the GROWTH in the economy!!
I know hypocrisy is the mantra of the conservative, but if we are going to have a FACTUAL debate, YOU need to provide facts!

I will get to the rest of your lengthy (but vacant of fact) response later, but we liberals have a job!

[Cryptic Bert]

wow Boo man, that certainly disproved my post about cutting tax loopholes for big business.
The conservative Rasmussen poll certainly proves nothing, except that many Americans live day to day with their heads in the sand. 
Wait til info like the loop hole bill comes out in debates!

AND YES, I think the general population IS concerned that we are in a budget hole yet oil companies and big business, still get tax rebates AND not one GOP member of the senate was for ending it!

First you say the voters have their heads in the sand. then you say they are concerned about the budget hole. Which is it?

here's another great GOP plan.

S.1738 - Economic Growth and Jobs Protection Act of 2011
another GOP bill to reduce the capital gains tax by 3%. That's going to help the deficit!!
You guys do remember that the top tax rate was over 80% until Reagan came in (who tripled the national debt!!)

our economy was booming then, but now you just chant "cut taxes, cut taxes".  Like that worked in the past 30 years!

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1738/actions_votes

LOL!!!!


So you are not aware that the money subject to Capital Gains tax has already been taxed-usually at the corporate rate.

AND another

H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes

Sponsored by a Republican, to allow  corporations to bring in engineers and scientists who will work CHEAPER than US counterparts. So this is an anti unemployment bill.

Good for corporations BAD for Americans

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3012/show

you haven't explain why it is good for corporations and bad for America. Oh and by the way. Democrats support the bill.

and another
HR 2021

is a bill to get around the CLEAN AIR act so they can drill in the continental shelf.
(that's where all our fish come from!)

really? All the fish? If we don't drill there someone else will so it makes no difference environmentally.

You remember They did campaign on the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, platform!

BUT, they have no job creation bills!

Nope none. None at all.....except for the 25 passed in the House and stalled in the Democrat controlled Senate.

here are a few to get you started

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h10/show

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3094/show

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3010/show

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h527/show

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2930/show

They need to wait for the economy to crash again so they can get their greedy little hands on the congress again!

How mature. Anyway you have a habit of telling us the GOP bills are bad but you never explain why or go into any detail. this must be a new way of debate that I was not previously aware of.

[taxed]

wow Boo man, that certainly disproved my post about cutting tax loopholes for big business.

What is a "tax loophole"?  Do you know, or is it some concept you read on Kos?

The conservative Rasmussen poll

Who was the most accurate in the 2008 election?

certainly proves nothing, except that many Americans live day to day with their heads in the sand.

What does that say about your poll?

Wait til info like the loop hole bill comes out in debates!

Give us a preview. 

AND YES, I think the general population IS concerned that we are in a budget hole yet oil companies and big business, still get tax rebates AND not one GOP member of the senate was for ending it!

You have your talking points switched around.  Conservatives want zero government subsidies for business.  Bailouts, etc., are liberal policies.  So are tax rebates -- conservatives want companies to simply just keep their earned money.

here's another great GOP plan.

S.1738 - Economic Growth and Jobs Protection Act of 2011

Stop posting references to bills that you have no idea about - bad or good.

another GOP bill to reduce the capital gains tax by 3%. That's going to help the deficit!!

You should learn what capital gains are, and how they affect people.  Hopefully someday you may have to pay capital gains -- that's the best way to learn.

You guys do remember that the top tax rate was over 80% until Reagan came in (who tripled the national debt!!)

The cold-war defense spending wasn't cheap. 

our economy was booming then, but now you just chant "cut taxes, cut taxes".  Like that worked in the past 30 years!

Any time taxes have been cut, prosperity increases.  It is a very simple concept.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1738/actions_votes
AND another

H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes

Sponsored by a Republican, to allow  corporations to bring in engineers and scientists who will work CHEAPER than US counterparts. So this is an anti unemployment bill.

Good for corporations BAD for Americans

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3012/show

and another
HR 2021

is a bill to get around the CLEAN AIR act so they can drill in the continental shelf.
(that's where all our fish come from!)


You remember They did campaign on the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, platform!

BUT, they have no job creation bills!

They need to wait for the economy to crash again so they can get their greedy little hands on the congress again!

How about this: instead of posting a bunch of stuff you have no idea about in one post, why not start new threads about stuff you know nothing about?  That way, we can address your points easier.  I know this is a tactic so people don't bother responding since it is too much to respond to, and you get your propaganda out there, but you are encouraged to put your intellect on the table and discuss issues individually.

Is that a possibility?

[Solar]

solar want's some answers to his point by point responses to me.

solar's response:
How exactly has Hussein increased exports?  Make this one good, please.

Well solar, since he gets blame for job loss and creation, due to the mere fact he is in office, he gets the same credit for exports being UP, just by being in office.
can't have it both ways my conservative little friend.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade
as you can see by the link. exports were in the crapper as BUSH left office and they have grown ever since.  CREDIT Obama!

SOLAR's response:
We should still be listening to 8-track tapes?  What is your logic?


THIS was a factual response??

My logic is "even though manufacturing is at a high level, due to automation less WORKERS are needed.
So in other words unemployment is still high even though manufacturing is HIGH as well.

Not sure what your "8 tack" quote is supposed to PROVE.


Solars response:
Yeah, it's really skyrocketing. Any growth is in spite of Hussein.

SO that's a factual response?? Here you proceed to ignore the data and just put it down to "dumb luck"
same deal here solar, if Obama gets the blame for the economy, he gets the credit for the GROWTH in the economy!!
I know hypocrisy is the mantra of the conservative, but if we are going to have a FACTUAL debate, YOU need to provide facts!

I will get to the rest of your lengthy (but vacant of fact) response later, but we liberals have a job!

I suggest you go back and read the last page, you totally ignore what I asked, then attributed other responses to me. I said none of that.

My post as follows: Reply #247
You see, bush was a total lib, yet your socialist in chief is breaking the bank.

You do realize that all his Green BS is coming back to bite him and us as well in the ass, all that money stolen from the treasury and wasted on solar and useless cars was nothing but a pipe dream, yet not a peep out of people like you, why is that?

Now, try and answer the question.

Keep in mind, Bush had nothing to do with the Green movement which has its roots in communism, this is all Hussein's doing and its not only making energy costs increase dramatically, but breaking us as well.

[Cryptic Bert]

I think he bailed....

[Solar]

I think he bailed....

Yep, its easy posting opinion pieces or partial data to bolster your case, but when confronted with questions about real issues, they always run away.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Not worry. I do have a life and job.
I don't just hand out dismissive one liners.
and when you throw out a dozen one liners in one post, it's just going to take time.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

Yep, its easy posting opinion pieces or partial data to bolster your case, but when confronted with questions about real issues, they always run away.

You wish.
Solar wants detailed answers to his probing questions!

SO, let's recap.
The last year and a half of the Bush administration, the GDP was declining and jobs disappearing at an alarming rate.

Solars answer:
After the Dems took over in 2006, yes, things went to crap, and Bush turned into a total lib.


There's a question in there?
Well in 2006 is when the housing market started to have trouble and Bush was shipping jobs overseas at a lightening rate.  Sure the Dems had the house, but as you guys know (but will not admit) the GOP can block anything they want in the Senate AND they were still in control of the Senate in 2006, SO your point was?

Obama gets in office,  turns things around

Solar's reply:
Much like the Captain of the Titanic turned things around...

This is not a statement that furthers this debate.
But I will elaborate.
The BIG question that voters have to ask themselves IS, the country better off today than the day Obama took office.
You would have to be living with your head in the sand, to not know things have improved a great deal.
Deny reality as much as you like but during the election, FACTS are going to be used.
Facts like:
the millions of jobs created during his term, greater than Bush in his entire term.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/10/08/its-official-more-private-sector-jobs-created-in-2010-than-during-entire-bush-years/

Regardless of whether it was aliens or fate that caused the GDP to grow every quarter since the stimulus took effect, OBAMA will still get credit for it.
Unemployment is not back to pre crash levels, but it does go down each month.
By November, it will be at an electable level.

and gives us the last 10 months of positive GDP, (go look it up)
manufacturing is way up,

Solar's answer:
If you call that growth, sure.

That's an elaborate response.

At the height of the recession, the GDP was down to minus 6.8%.
So now,  our steady 2% plus growth is good.
In case you haven't noticed the rest of the planet's economy is still shaky

Here you can look at the GDP around the world. Our 2-3 % growth in GDP is right in line with all the G 20 countries.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=66&c=ch&l=en

SO ya, I call that growth.
TOO much growth causes inflation, remember?

exports are way up

Solar's answer:
Hussein had nothing to do with it.  Feel free to prove otherwise.

Ok Solar, stats show this.
http://www.bls.gov/web/ximpim/q.htm

clearly we export NOW more than we did at the end of Bush term.
SO, exports are up!

Once again if Obama takes the rap for the "economy" it's an ALL IN deal.

It tanks, it's his fault, it succeeds he get CREDIT!

Unless this is you admitting that your stance is hypocritical,
Obama gets credit for exports going up.

new trade agreements with 3 new countries

Solars answer:
Even though he campaigned against free trade agreements.  I guess someone told him they would hurt the US, so he gave in.

Obama never "gives in".
He considers the information like any smart individual does and makes the choice he feels is best for the country.
I guess this proves that Obama is smart enough to take good advice!
Now that is leadership qualities!

knocks the crap out of AL Queada

Solar's response:
Like when he delayed and "slept on" the decision to go after Bin Laden?  If left to Hussein, Bin Laden would still be watching porn and making video tapes...

So, this again is a terribly factual response.

You prefer the "commander in chief", who attacks a country as opposed alternative methods.

Like your GOP hero, GW, who was offered Osama BY the taliban, if we stopped the invasion.
Bush said NO.  That's leadership!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

and unemployment is dropping

Solar's response:
What planet are you living in?  This solidifies that fact that libs, like yourself, are incapable of conceptualizing basic economics.

Well Solar,  I live in the US. Statistics show I am correct and YOU are deluded conservative incapable of interpreting basic data.

Yes there are still many unemployed, but that does not mean that the rate is not going down. Statistics are on my side.  Show me data that shows otherwise.

wide spread attacks on unions

Solar's response:
Removing a parasite from it's host is not an attack on the parasite.


Solar thinks police, firemen, and teachers are parasites.

So what are people like Romney that buy up companies, strip them of their wealth and fire the employees.
That sounds more like a parasite.

Oh and by the way, the unions are under CONTRACT with governments/cities/counties/corporations.

Contracts that they negotiated with each other. This is America right.

The Land of he who has the biggest pile, wins?

If unions were able to negotiate the contract, they should get it..

Same as corporations should be able to negotiate with you on how little they pay you.

Same difference.

I would agree that many need to be negotiated again,
but getting rid of collective bargaining is DUMB.

Plays right into the corporations hands.

Next you will be telling me that the middle class was not born from UNION jobs.

threats on Medicare and SS

Solar's response
Where? How?

Man, you do live in a cave.
You remember the budget put out by GOP crazy guy, Paul Ryan??
Name ring a bell?
His budget called for drastic cuts in Medicare and SS programs.
THAT's what scared the elderly!

So not one FACT or link with a fact in your response SOLAR.

I will get around to Taxed and Boo man tomorrow.

[Solar]

You wish.
Solar wants detailed answers to his probing questions!
Solars answer:
After the Dems took over in 2006, yes, things went to crap, and Bush turned into a total lib.


There's a question in there?
Well in 2006 is when the housing market started to have trouble and Bush was shipping jobs overseas at a lightening rate.  Sure the Dems had the house, but as you guys know (but will not admit) the GOP can block anything they want in the Senate AND they were still in control of the Senate in 2006, SO your point was?
Solar's reply:
Much like the Captain of the Titanic turned things around...

This is not a statement that furthers this debate.
But I will elaborate.
The BIG question that voters have to ask themselves IS, the country better off today than the day Obama took office.
You would have to be living with your head in the sand, to not know things have improved a great deal.
Deny reality as much as you like but during the election, FACTS are going to be used.
Facts like:
the millions of jobs created during his term, greater than Bush in his entire term.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/10/08/its-official-more-private-sector-jobs-created-in-2010-than-during-entire-bush-years/

Regardless of whether it was aliens or fate that caused the GDP to grow every quarter since the stimulus took effect, OBAMA will still get credit for it.
Unemployment is not back to pre crash levels, but it does go down each month.
By November, it will be at an electable level.

Solar's answer:
If you call that growth, sure.

That's an elaborate response.

At the height of the recession, the GDP was down to minus 6.8%.
So now,  our steady 2% plus growth is good.
In case you haven't noticed the rest of the planet's economy is still shaky

Here you can look at the GDP around the world. Our 2-3 % growth in GDP is right in line with all the G 20 countries.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=66&c=ch&l=en

SO ya, I call that growth.
TOO much growth causes inflation, remember?


Solar's answer:
Hussein had nothing to do with it.  Feel free to prove otherwise.

Ok Solar, stats show this.
http://www.bls.gov/web/ximpim/q.htm

clearly we export NOW more than we did at the end of Bush term.
SO, exports are up!

Once again if Obama takes the rap for the "economy" it's an ALL IN deal.

It tanks, it's his fault, it succeeds he get CREDIT!

Unless this is you admitting that your stance is hypocritical,
Obama gets credit for exports going up.

Solars answer:
Even though he campaigned against free trade agreements.  I guess someone told him they would hurt the US, so he gave in.

Obama never "gives in".
He considers the information like any smart individual does and makes the choice he feels is best for the country.
I guess this proves that Obama is smart enough to take good advice!
Now that is leadership qualities!


Solar's response:
Like when he delayed and "slept on" the decision to go after Bin Laden?  If left to Hussein, Bin Laden would still be watching porn and making video tapes...

So, this again is a terribly factual response.

You prefer the "commander in chief", who attacks a country as opposed alternative methods.

Like your GOP hero, GW, who was offered Osama BY the taliban, if we stopped the invasion.
Bush said NO.  That's leadership!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

Solar's response:
What planet are you living in?  This solidifies that fact that libs, like yourself, are incapable of conceptualizing basic economics.

Well Solar,  I live in the US. Statistics show I am correct and YOU are deluded conservative incapable of interpreting basic data.

Yes there are still many unemployed, but that does not mean that the rate is not going down. Statistics are on my side.  Show me data that shows otherwise.

Solar's response:
Removing a parasite from it's host is not an attack on the parasite.


Solar thinks police, firemen, and teachers are parasites.

So what are people like Romney that buy up companies, strip them of their wealth and fire the employees.
That sounds more like a parasite.

Oh and by the way, the unions are under CONTRACT with governments/cities/counties/corporations.

Contracts that they negotiated with each other. This is America right.

The Land of he who has the biggest pile, wins?

If unions were able to negotiate the contract, they should get it..

Same as corporations should be able to negotiate with you on how little they pay you.

Same difference.

I would agree that many need to be negotiated again,
but getting rid of collective bargaining is DUMB.

Plays right into the corporations hands.

Next you will be telling me that the middle class was not born from UNION jobs.

Solar's response
Where? How?

Man, you do live in a cave.
You remember the budget put out by GOP crazy guy, Paul Ryan??
Name ring a bell?
His budget called for drastic cuts in Medicare and SS programs.
THAT's what scared the elderly!

So not one FACT or link with a fact in your response SOLAR.

I will get around to Taxed and Boo man tomorrow.

I am going to ask you a question and am not being insulting.
Are you suffering from some form of brain damage, or reading comprehension

Not one of your answers was responded to my question single question, yet you attributed all that to me.

Go back and once more, read what I wrote and try for the third time to answer it.

And one more point, I don't know what little bubble you live in, but even the cBO sees a far bleaker outlook than what you're posting and they actually use facts and figures.

Now read reply #260 and try this again.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

I am going to ask you a question and am not being insulting.
Are you suffering from some form of brain damage, or reading comprehension

Not one of your answers was responded to my question single question, yet you attributed all that to me.

Go back and once more, read what I wrote and try for the third time to answer it.

And one more point, I don't know what little bubble you live in, but even the cBO sees a far bleaker outlook than what you're posting and they actually use facts and figures.

Now read reply #260 and try this again.

The post I am responding to is 245! duh

and i notice there is not one link in this post  to YOUR facts

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

THIS is your big question??

Solars #247 post
    You see, bush was a total lib, yet your socialist in chief is breaking the bank.

    You do realize that all his Green BS is coming back to bite him and us as well in the ass, all that money stolen from the treasury and wasted on solar and useless cars was nothing but a pipe dream, yet not a peep out of people like you, why is that?

where does one start.
"stolen from the treasury" actually it was money voted on BY congress as part of the stimulus money. SO. stolen, only exists if he did not have authorization. SECONDLY, the loan was started under BUSH administration and finished under Obama. The loan guarantee was approved by the DOE, all Bush staffers at the time.

So "stolen from the treasury" would be YOU distorting the truth, huh.

The Bush administration was HOT for this company so they could show GREEN jobs come election time in 2008.

"After a few dozen Solyndra hearings like the one in the House today, everyone's going to remember the Bush administration was just as intent to make this loan."

oooh  lets repeat that part:


"the Bush administration as well as  dozens of venture capitalist and thousands of stock holders were just as intent to make this loan.

all successful loan programs have failures, that the Solyndra venture was barely 1% of the Energy Department's $40 billion clean-energy portfolio, that there will still be over $2 billion in reserves for busted loans no matter how Solyndra shakes out. That's basic economics!"

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/20/09/14/dont-be-fooled-by-the-solyndra-bankruptcy-circus-solar-is-booming/#ixzz1XzOwIECu

MY peep on the green energy matter is, YES we should be doing this kind of support for green energy projects, The same as we fund other research!  That's how America keeps ahead!

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

My sincerest apologies to SOLAR,
I was responding to TAXED, your post was right above it.

Too much Lib koolaide I guess.

BUT the good news is, I will start on you next.

[Solar]

THIS is your big question??
where does one start.
"stolen from the treasury" actually it was money voted on BY congress as part of the stimulus money. SO. stolen, only exists if he did not have authorization. SECONDLY, the loan was started under BUSH administration and finished under Obama. The loan guarantee was approved by the DOE, all Bush staffers at the time.

So yes, this was a theft of treasury when you consider who the recipients were.
But then I imagine you have become numbed to the crony capitalism in the hussein administration.

You do realize we will never see a dime of the money that the Dim party so happily approved (STOLE) from the American people.

So "stolen from the treasury" would be YOU distorting the truth, huh.

MY peep on the green energy matter is, YES we should be doing this kind of support for green energy projects, The same as we fund other research!  That's how America keeps ahead!

Bull! Bush refused Solyndra, Hussein owns that along with all the other failed alternative energy projects..
And this was funding research, this was funding business that had no place in the free mkt.

[Just_the_facts_mamm]

From your link: Not so rosy, is it?

What budget? You libs never produced a budget under Hussein.

well here is one. The 2011 budget was enacted on April 15, 2011, as Public Law 112-10, the Department of Defense and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011.
pretty sure something must have been passed to get through 2010.

AND lets remember that it is CONGRESS which includes Dems and GOP that need to WORK TOGETHER to pass a budget.
Yet you cons like to heap the "problem" on Obama.

But lets compare a bit, shall we?
Under Bush, who I happen to disdain by the way, he is not a Conservative, but check out the totals.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2008USbf_13bs1n_H0#usgs302

Now look at Hussein's numbers.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/US_fed_spending_pie_chart

And again under Bush.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown_2008USrt_13rs5n
and now under your Messiah.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown

Again you conservatives like to ignore little details, like paying for Bushes 2 wars, which had NOT been paid for, the fact that Obama was handed a 1.4 trillion deficit budget the day he took office.
A budget presided over by a GOP president and a GOP senate. So don't give me this "the Dems did it" crap.  The GOP can stop anything they want in the Senate, as we see on a daily basis, AND they are the minority!

Name a social program "enacted" by Obama to further his socialist programs.
other than the healthcare which I will get to next.

Healthcare is out of control!!
corporate death panels
constant increases
pre-existing condidition exclusions
dropping you when you get sick.

little problems that were not good for americans.
Here is what it DID do for you.
Which of these things do want insurance companies to be able to do to you again?
This bill
Stopped the insurance companies from rejecting you for pre-existing conditions, OR cutting you off because you are too sick (corporate death panels) or have reached your "total payout" limit.

Made A tax break for small business to help them with health care for employees.

Tax credits for 29 million taxpayers to help purchase health insurance.

Expanded Medicaid to include all persons 65 and up, up to 133% of poverty level

Cut prescription costs for Medicare by 50%.

Allows your child to remain on your health care until they are 26

WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU WANT TO REPEAL???

You see, bush was a total lib, yet your socialist in chief is breaking the bank.

If Bush is a total Lib, who do you think would be a good leader, Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet?
You a total Libertarian? what?

You do realize that all his Green BS is coming back to bite him and us as well in the ass, all that money stolen from the treasury and wasted on solar and useless cars was nothing but a pipe dream, yet not a peep out of people like you, why is that?

and I already explained my position on the green energy.