Prediction Thread

[Solar]

My prediction has to do with Obama's campaign. I'm not calling the exact makeup of it, but I think it will mostly be class warfare, capitalizing on the wall-street protesters, with a healthy dose of criticizing the GOP, and the required minimum of Greek columns and Soviet-style posters.
Buzzwords to listen for include:
"Top 1%" (or 5%, or 10%, depending on what mood he's in).
"Partisan gridloc.
"Party of no".
"We've come too far to go back".
"Do you love me?"
"Inherited the recession".

And many, many more! The Obama campaign greatest hits, coming soon to a news outlet near you!

Good choices, and one more since most of their current talking points are failing, "a womans choice" it'll be reanimated since that one resonates with his base and the ignorant.

[Dan]

My 2012 predictions:

The Republicans will win the presidency
The Republicans will gain seats in the house
The Republicans will win the senate majority and settle out around 56-58 seats.
The moment a Republican beats Obama you will start to see a flood of private capital back into the US economy. Maybe not the full 2 trillion all at once, but it will be an undeniable and significant flow from the sidelines to the economy.
China's economy will falter in a big way. This will lead to a cascading effect on the economies of countries who are dependent upon Chinese exports such as Australia, New Zeland, South America and Africa.
Greece will leave the EU.
Whether it happens or not, Portugul will also consider leaving the EU.
Italy and Spain will stay in the EU.
The EU will not make significant movement towards a common political and/or fiscal union to balance out the monetary union.
The religous loons will be a big part of the new Lybian government.

[Dan]

I predict that the US housing market is no where near finding it's floor and that many of the most depressed US housing markets will continue to see slack demand and falling prices in 2012.

I predict that future banks in crisis will not have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a federal bailout. The actions of the banks over the past 3 years in particular have completely poisoned the well regarding political solutions.

[Dan]

I predict that FoxNews will lose more and more viewers as it continues to tack to the left.

I already watch it maybe 20% of the time I watched it 3 years ago.

[taxed]

I predict that FoxNews will lose more and more viewers as it continues to tack to the left.

I already watch it maybe 20% of the time I watched it 3 years ago.

Totally......

[Dan]

I predict Barak Obama will lose in a landslide to whoever the Republicans nominate.

[Solar]

I predict Barak Obama will lose in a landslide to whoever the Republicans nominate.

LOL!!! :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
And I predict darkness at night.

[CubaLibre]

I predict Barak Obama will lose in a landslide to whoever the Republicans nominate.

I'm still waiting on that Generic guy to announce his candidacy. He's owning in all the polls.

[Dan]

If the lefties were smart then they would cut the best deal they can make now, because after next November we aren't going to need to consider their positions at all. Not when we have the presidency, the senate and the house.

[arpad]

If the lefties were smart then they would cut the best deal they can make now, because after next November we aren't going to need to consider their positions at all. Not when we have the presidency, the senate and the house.

Having watched a number of Republican presidential candidates "campaign" piss away elections for reasons which still baffle me, I can't join you in your certainty. Granted none of the current field has any obvious expectations that it's "their turn" for a presidential run like Pa Bush, Bob Dole or John McCain but their example worries me.

I'm quite willing to wait for current events since prediction, at least in the case of the presidency, has repeatedly disappointed me.

One thing I well predict though is that the continued movement of the electorate to right will start to have an inescapable, and unconcealable, impact on the Democratic party. You may have to dig to find the information but I believe Democratic incumbents will see their most significant threat from conservative, Democratic challengers.

Yes, they exist. There really are conservative Democrats although they tend to be conservative on only specific issues but just as left wing Republicans have seen fit to depart the party - Arlen Spectre's probably the best know and most obvious example - incumbent, left wing Democrats from swing areas will either lose their primaries to conservative, Democratic challengers or retire as the political atmosphere becomes more problematic for them.

[Solar]

Don't know if I posted this or not, but I'll kick the can a bit further down the road.

The Dim movement is over, liberalism as we know it today is dead, they just don't know it because its on life support, but we will pull the plug in 2012 and take all three Houses.

The Dim party will do one of two things during the next decade, either they will move to the Right, challenging the Pubs over certain areas, or accept where they have gone and wear the moniker of Socialist Democratic party.

But no matter how its viewed, they have lost power for the next three decades.
I say this because the Nation saw just how corrupt they were in using our laws against us to achieve their goals, they heard Hussein say they would fundamentally change America, but that change was like a cancer on our very way of life and it effected the rest of the World economy.

My proof is their past, they infect every generation with their warped ideals, think 60s generation and the Hippie movement with the free love and do what you want to do, its a free Country attitude.

Well they will have to infect a whole new generation, because all the others have seen the results of liberalism on the Country and culture when Hussein moved into overdrive and sped up the Marxist movement.

It will take them an entire generation, about 30 years to regain power and trust, so it will be the generation being born today that they will go after, all the rest of us know who they are and what they are about.

[Dan]

It's over for now. Once every generation libs have to remind us why they can't be trusted. In 30 years it will happen all over again.

[Solar]

It's over for now. Once every generation libs have to remind us why they can't be trusted. In 30 years it will happen all over again.

Yes it will, just the same old bull shit repackaged, but always under the guise of pretending to help.

[arpad]

Don't know if I posted this or not, but I'll kick the can a bit further down the road.

The Dim movement is over, liberalism as we know it today is dead, they just don't know it because its on life support, but we will pull the plug in 2012 and take all three Houses.

The Dim party will do one of two things during the next decade, either they will move to the Right, challenging the Pubs over certain areas, or accept where they have gone and wear the moniker of Socialist Democratic party.

But no matter how its viewed, they have lost power for the next three decades.
I say this because the Nation saw just how corrupt they were in using our laws against us to achieve their goals, they heard Hussein say they would fundamentally change America, but that change was like a cancer on our very way of life and it effected the rest of the World economy.

My proof is their past, they infect every generation with their warped ideals, think 60s generation and the Hippie movement with the free love and do what you want to do, its a free Country attitude.

Well they will have to infect a whole new generation, because all the others have seen the results of liberalism on the Country and culture when Hussein moved into overdrive and sped up the Marxist movement.

It will take them an entire generation, about 30 years to regain power and trust, so it will be the generation being born today that they will go after, all the rest of us know who they are and what they are about.

I've got a different take on both the Democratic party and leftyism.

Ours is a representative form of government which is generally taken to mean we elect people at intervals to represent us at those bodies where law is made. But I think it also means our government is representative of us.

By that I mean our strengthes and failings show up in our government as collective representation of our various, human characteristics.

How many people are unhappy with the cowardice shown by our elected representatives. Come on, show of hands.

How many of those with hands raised can think back to instances they'd rather not think about where they weren't quite as courageous as they could have been?

How about patience, tolerance, expediency, honesty and generosity? Anyone come up short on that list? Maybe once during your life so far?

What I'm getting at is that our political system reflects those characteristics.

Democrats represent immediate gratification over long-term planning. They represent divisiveness over inclusiveness all sloganeering to the contrary notwithstanding. Democrats represent impulsiveness over caution, self-involvment over community, selfishness over generosity and expedience over altruism.

While I think that's always been the case with Democrats that representation of human shortcomings reached a pinnacle with the ascent of the left. It's a natural fit but the Democrats resisted the left for some time. In the 1940s and 1950s there were Democrats who were anxious to make it clear they were opposed to the left even though they shared many sentiments with the left. But time took it's toll and the insurgent lefties eventually ascended to power in the Democratic party.

But if you look at the list of characteristics that the Democrats, and the left, represent they're nothing so much as a list of characteristics to be found in all children of a certain age and a gradually diminishing number of children as those children move into adulthood.

Dang, gotta go. More later.

[Solar]

I've got a different take on both the Democratic party and leftyism.

Ours is a representative form of government which is generally taken to mean we elect people at intervals to represent us at those bodies where law is made. But I think it also means our government is representative of us.

By that I mean our strengthes and failings show up in our government as collective representation of our various, human characteristics.

How many people are unhappy with the cowardice shown by our elected representatives. Come on, show of hands.

How many of those with hands raised can think back to instances they'd rather not think about where they weren't quite as courageous as they could have been?

How about patience, tolerance, expediency, honesty and generosity? Anyone come up short on that list? Maybe once during your life so far?

What I'm getting at is that our political system reflects those characteristics.

Democrats represent immediate gratification over long-term planning. They represent divisiveness over inclusiveness all sloganeering to the contrary notwithstanding. Democrats represent impulsiveness over caution, self-involvment over community, selfishness over generosity and expedience over altruism.

While I think that's always been the case with Democrats that representation of human shortcomings reached a pinnacle with the ascent of the left. It's a natural fit but the Democrats resisted the left for some time. In the 1940s and 1950s there were Democrats who were anxious to make it clear they were opposed to the left even though they shared many sentiments with the left. But time took it's toll and the insurgent lefties eventually ascended to power in the Democratic party.

But if you look at the list of characteristics that the Democrats, and the left, represent they're nothing so much as a list of characteristics to be found in all children of a certain age and a gradually diminishing number of children as those children move into adulthood.

Dang, gotta go. More later.

I don't see the difference yet, and I agree, in fact, most Dims come from the ground up.
By that I mean local politics gives them a foot in the door, most people have a different view on local politics as the do Nationally, and many Dims are voted in by both parties.

Case in point, I voted for a Dim back in the early 70s, (Robert Marsui) he was by far more Conservative on a local scale than the Pub, but Matsui went on to become a Senator where he joined his brethren and became a full blown lib on many issues.

I think this scenario repeats itself over and over again in local races...