Reagan Warned Us About Obama

" The government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more then what the government takes in " Ronald Reagan


OHH the irony ....

Quote from: redlom xof on February 01, 2013, 07:38:27 AM
" The government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more then what the government takes in " Ronald Reagan


OHH the irony ....

Really, how?

The debt grew over 300 % while he was in office. Which contradicts this remark about how governments shouldn't spend more then they take in.

"The liberals never, ever want you to know about the huge surge in the economy in the 1980s, and huge gains in employment, more than 20 million jobs. They only like to point out that during Reagan's presidency the debt increased from $909 billion in 1980 when Reagan was elected to $2.857 trillion by 1989 when Reagan left office.  So they always say, "Reagan tripled the national debt because he lowered tax rates".



Technically, they can say that that is true, that he tripled the debt. But if you consider the debt increase as a percentage of the whole national wealth (GDP) went from 32.6% to 51%, that is a 59% increase relative to the whole economy, not a 300% increase (tripling) like liberals say. And still, after defeating the Soviet Union with a huge military buildup, the final debt of the Reagan years was only about half (51% of GDP) of what it is today (100% of GDP).



Yet even this 59% increase in the debt was caused mostly by the Democrats in Congress. Here is how:



Reagan cut top tax rates which set off an economic boom, causing huge inflows to the treasury. He then spent some of that money on the military to defeat the Soviet Union – certainly some of the best-spent dollars in American history.



But at the same time, the heavily-Democrat Congress went on a wild spending spree after promising not to, like typical Democrats (the agreement was called TEFRA. You can search it on the internet to read about it). So it was not tax cuts that caused the debt – they caused the boom. And while military spending did cause the debt to rise somewhat, it was the Democrats' massive spending that really caused the spike.

Yet Reagan policies have historically been blamed by Democrats like Obama only for the bad things but never for the really big accomplishments which were a booming economy and, most significantly, the defeat of Soviet communism."


http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2011/05/25/about-that-reagan-debt/

Quote from: redlom xof on February 01, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
The debt grew over 300 % while he was in office. Which contradicts this remark about how governments shouldn't spend more then they take in.

And Reagan wrote all those bills he signed? Show me one he wrote and forced Congress to go along with.

Quote from: Turks on February 01, 2013, 08:56:24 AM
"The liberals never, ever want you to know about the huge surge in the economy in the 1980s, and huge gains in employment, more than 20 million jobs. They only like to point out that during Reagan's presidency the debt increased from $909 billion in 1980 when Reagan was elected to $2.857 trillion by 1989 when Reagan left office.  So they always say, "Reagan tripled the national debt because he lowered tax rates".



Technically, they can say that that is true, that he tripled the debt. But if you consider the debt increase as a percentage of the whole national wealth (GDP) went from 32.6% to 51%, that is a 59% increase relative to the whole economy, not a 300% increase (tripling) like liberals say. And still, after defeating the Soviet Union with a huge military buildup, the final debt of the Reagan years was only about half (51% of GDP) of what it is today (100% of GDP).



Yet even this 59% increase in the debt was caused mostly by the Democrats in Congress. Here is how:



Reagan cut top tax rates which set off an economic boom, causing huge inflows to the treasury. He then spent some of that money on the military to defeat the Soviet Union – certainly some of the best-spent dollars in American history.



But at the same time, the heavily-Democrat Congress went on a wild spending spree after promising not to, like typical Democrats (the agreement was called TEFRA. You can search it on the internet to read about it). So it was not tax cuts that caused the debt – they caused the boom. And while military spending did cause the debt to rise somewhat, it was the Democrats' massive spending that really caused the spike.

Yet Reagan policies have historically been blamed by Democrats like Obama only for the bad things but never for the really big accomplishments which were a booming economy and, most significantly, the defeat of Soviet communism."


http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2011/05/25/about-that-reagan-debt/

And destroyed the Soviet Union without firing a shot. That's a pretty cheap war.

Russia Is, ironically warning us about him

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Ronald Reagan.  Now there was a President.

Quote from: Charliemyboy on February 01, 2013, 04:06:07 PM
Ronald Reagan.  Now there was a President.

Increased the size of the government.

Increased the annual deficit nearly every year.

Signed off on a bill as governor to prohibit the carrying of loaded firearms [Mulford Act].

Signed off on a bill that granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens [Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986].

Supported worldwide nuclear disarmament.


I wonder if conservatives can actually effectively argue how great Reagan supposedly was as a conservative hero. I mean, his speeches were nice and all but policy speaks louder than words. 

Quote from: Phillip on February 02, 2013, 11:40:45 PM


Increased the size of the government.

Increased the annual deficit nearly every year.

Signed off on a bill as governor to prohibit the carrying of loaded firearms [Mulford Act].

Signed off on a bill that granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens [Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986].

Supported worldwide nuclear disarmament.


I wonder if conservatives can actually effectively argue how great Reagan supposedly was as a conservative hero. I mean, his speeches were nice and all but policy speaks louder than words. 

In the end he may not have been as conservative as some would have liked.  But unlike the Liberals'/Progressives' hero, he never had sex with an intern and then years later be asked to deliver the keynote speech at a convention by a sitting President.  In B.J. Clintons' case his actions will always be remembered more than his words.   

The most famous quotation from Bill Clinton's presidency won't be about health care, or Bosnia, or Iraq, or the economy. It will be the lie he told a national audience on January 28, 1998, when he said: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

"And whatever else history may say about me when I'm gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears, to your confidence rather than your doubts."---Ronald Reagan

Quote from: Phillip on February 02, 2013, 11:40:45 PM


Increased the size of the government.

If that's an issue for you, you must hate Dims.
Every POTUS increases Govt, it's why the Tea party exists.

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Increased the annual deficit nearly every year.

Which Bills did he write and which bills were pushed by a Dim House?

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Signed off on a bill as governor to prohibit the carrying of loaded firearms [Mulford Act].

Yes he did, but keep in mind, he'd only been a Pub for 5 years at that point, he even stated he was a recovering Dim and asked for our understanding.

QuoteSigned off on a bill that granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens [Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986].

Yes he did, with the promise that the Dims would follow through with their promise to institute stronger immigration laws.
Don't blame Reagan for another broken lib promise.

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Supported worldwide nuclear disarmament.

No he didn't, he wasn't the idiot Carter was, he said "Trust but verify", meaning, you destroy a 1000, we will do the same.

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I wonder if conservatives can actually effectively argue how great Reagan supposedly was as a conservative hero. I mean, his speeches were nice and all but policy speaks louder than words. 

If the Right is seeking perfection toward true Conservatism, the left must be in pursuit of the other end of the spectrum, Communism.
Oh wit, just look at the policies of Husein, you're well on your way.

Well, at least Rompin' Ronnie left us feeling positive about America. Considering how there are now decades of violent video games (and thousands of nihilistic TV and movies) shaping liberals' world-views, it's small wonder libs think the U.S. is bad.

Funny thing about our Constitution. Even the libs who hate America can put out a product and become rich off it, and then other libs will attack them for it, parasites one and all.

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

'nuff said.

At least he didn't say "I am a jelly doughnut."