First there's this:

http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/is-anti-illegal-immigration-just-code-for-anti-hispanic-2-16583/

"Is anti-illegal immigration just code for anti-hispanic?"

No moron's of the left. That's called being pro-law and order. Something your side of the isle know's zilch about, but I digress.

I'm seriously soooo way beyond fed up with liberals trying to trot out that old, tired ass, race card every time the American people overwhelmingly tell their sorry hypocritical, idiotic, asses no.

I know if I'm fed up with that slime ball tactic the left tries to engage in every time one turn's around, others have to be as well. So why don't we ever see anyone speaking out against these liberals who seek to take refuge in the last reserve of the feebleminded?

And then there's this:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/16385-conservative-u-s-hispanics-aim-to-stop-amnesty-and-big-government

"Conservative U.S. Hispanics aim to stop amnesty and big government"...

Well so much for the aforementioned liberal assertion that it's just anti-hispanics who oppose this liberal push for amnesty for illegal invaders.

It never fails, every single time these liberals try to push their agenda, here they come trying to trot out the old tired ass race card.

When are they going to "get it" that no, not everyone who dares to disagree with them ideologically and politically, is a racist.

That no, the majority of the American people do not support their political policies and platform.

That no, most Americans see right through the liberals attempts at smearing their political opponents.

As these two articles demonstrate, here are the very groups these liberals allege are being so discriminated against, coming out, saying like the rest of the majority of Americans, NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS, NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGALS, NO MORE HANDOUTS FOR ILLEGALS,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! DEPORTATION FOR THE ILLEGALS. EITHER PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY FOR THOSE WHO WILL.

Oh oh my bad I forgot, according to the liberal narrative we are all supposed to ignore and overlook Hispanic groups such as those.

Because to hear the left tell it, since all who oppose this push for amnesty are "racists".

Logically, it must follow then, that these folks must just be "self hating hispanics" who oppose illegal immigration....note the sarcasm liberals....

Looks like I'm a racist since I oppose amnesty. Although I'm trying to figure out which race the card dealers refer to .

I like using 'indocumentados'.  The Left has to stop for a second...

So, I'm a racist because I prefer to not see the country overrun with illiterate, unskilled, diseased, criminal foreigners, who do not want to assimilate into American culture, but instead turn America into a richer version of the crap holes they just left; seemingly unable to realize that one of the reasons those other places were crap holes was because those places had no respect for the law. Which raises the question of why, the first thing you did when you came here was break the law. Odd last time I checked that old grey beard in the mirror, I realize I lived through the era when they actually had racism; and wanting to stop hordes of looters from bum rushing the border, looks nothing like it.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 27, 2014, 08:07:50 AM
So, I'm a racist because I prefer to not see the country overrun with illiterate, unskilled, diseased, criminal foreigners, who do not want to assimilate into American culture, but instead turn America into a richer version of the crap holes they just left; seemingly unable to realize that one of the reasons those other places were crap holes was because those places had no respect for the law. Which raises the question of why, the first thing you did when you came here was break the law. Odd last time I checked that old grey beard in the mirror, I realize I lived through the era when they actually had racism; and wanting to stop hordes of looters from bum rushing the border, looks nothing like it.

My entire formative years were spent in the Civil Rights era, and although I was too young in 1964 to go march in Washington, I surely would have. So now I'm a racist for being male and white and because I demand that THESE immigrants follow the same laws as my ancestors did --- who DID become productive Americans. (Evil capitalists and college-educated only because they paid for it, not anybody else).

If Democrats are so elitist they will not hold certain jobs in America, they should say so. If they want slaves but are too gutless to call them that, then they should say so. In the meantime these entry-level jobs ARE the stepping-stone to better things...for those who WANT to work.

Losers like gangbangers or welfare leeches? Gee, just ask a Dem. Sounds like just their kind of voter.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 27, 2014, 08:07:50 AM
So, I'm a racist because I prefer to not see the country overrun with illiterate, unskilled, diseased, criminal foreigners, who do not want to assimilate into American culture, but instead turn America into a richer version of the crap holes they just left; seemingly unable to realize that one of the reasons those other places were crap holes was because those places had no respect for the law.

         That is exactly what Washington wants. If we continue to look closely at any one of  countries referred to in the post, we find an (effectively) unelected political elite controlling a suppressed population,
controlling the natural resources of the nation, raking in the money, sex, and power, all the while putting on the benevolent Biden/Obama smile.  Not to mention the high priests of the Church State.


         If there is a question "Why the obsession with mining, oil, timber?"  The answer is that the concept of ours; namely, our people are our greatest natural resource, is completely foreign to them. Their idea, that is, the idea of  the political elite of South America and their Globalist US, Russian, and Chinese cronies, is that human natural resources means cheap unskilled labor; which is exactly where we are going to wind up if we continue to blindly follow the Clintons, The Kenyans, and official Washington, which, incidentally, is starting to make colonial New Delhi look like Disneyland.

Quote from: red_dirt on July 27, 2014, 08:23:47 AM
".........official Washington, which, incidentally, is starting to make colonial New Delhi look like Disneyland."

We could only wish. The British Civil Service before WW1 was known for it's incorruptibility and intelligence. With only the best of the best being taken after rigorous exams.

I oppose these criminals too. These felons are not a separate race, either. Leftist, anti-American thug term!

Repeating an earlier assertion, there is a fundamental economic reason
why Northern Europe continues to be more advanced than its Mediterranean
neighbors and it has nothing to do w/climate. The same reality applies to
North and South America. Fundamentally, Latins are inflicted w/an infantile
inferiority complex which causes them to compulsively defer to those they
perceive as their betters. This is why they passively tolerate venal oligarchs,
century after century. From Mexico to Argentina and from Chile to Venezuela,
w/few exceptions; political frauds and hustlers call the tune and the peasantry
dances but nothing fundamental ever changes. As a consequence, these
countries are bursting w/low skilled and largely illiterate masses, clueless as
to the reason for their condition. Rather than seize the moment, in the
country of their birth, they vote w/their feet and head here w/their hand out.
When the Irish, Germans, Italians, Russians, Hungarians etc, emigrated here
post Civil War, they discarded their old ways and embraced the new. Not so
w/Latins, who as a consequence, will never assimilate. Instead they will morph
into a mass of disgruntled and disloyal agitators. They merely swap one country
of residence for another, like Gypsies, bringing all their emotional baggage w/them 
but nothing a real and lasting value. All economic transactions involve an exchange
of perceived value added but the Latins have little, if anything, to offer.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 27, 2014, 12:09:25 PM
Repeating an earlier assertion, there is a fundamental economic reason
why Northern Europe continues to be more advanced than its Mediterranean
neighbors and it has nothing to do w/climate. The same reality applies to
North and South America. Fundamentally, Latins are inflicted w/an infantile
inferiority complex which causes them to compulsively defer to those they
perceive as their betters. This is why they passively tolerate venal oligarchs,
century after century. From Mexico to Argentina and from Chile to Venezuela,
w/few exceptions; political frauds and hustlers call the tune and the peasantry
dances but nothing fundamental ever changes. As a consequence, these
countries are bursting w/low skilled and largely illiterate masses, clueless as
to the reason for their condition. Rather than seize the moment, in the
country of their birth, they vote w/their feet and head here w/their hand out.
When the Irish, Germans, Italians, Russians, Hungarians etc, emigrated here
post Civil War, they discarded their old ways and embraced the new. Not so
w/Latins, who as a consequence, will never assimilate. Instead they will morph
into a mass of disgruntled and disloyal agitators. They merely swap one country
of residence for another, like Gypsies, bringing all their emotional baggage w/them 
but nothing a real and lasting value. All economic transactions involve an exchange
of perceived value added but the Latins have little, if anything, to offer.

You have a point. but one of the reasons they assimilated into the culture of this country was that their old culture was on the other side of the ocean. With Latin Americans, their culture is right next door, a constant reminder of the way things "should" be. One of our problems with the illegal culture is the constant influx of cultural reminders. And we make it easy for them to not assimilate, like the A-holes who fought making English the national language. No one should be able to live for years in the US and not be able to get around in the majority language. Try retiring somewhere overseas and not be able to get around in the local tongue. If the want to hand out Amnesty, they first thing they should do is round up all illegals and give them a language test. If the illegal parents cant't speak it and the kids can, the kids stay and the parents go - and make sure that's known.

I am just not sure how, in practical terms how we remove 11 million people, some here for 30 or more years.

And I think you have to be careful before assuming the public is on the side of deportation. Virtually every poll ends up suggesting Americans want a path to legality if not to citizenship.

Winning means getting an answer that does not divide the nation, nor prevent the Right from ever winning another presidential election for the loss of all minorities.
Winning policy should not mean losing elections, which it well might if you expel 11 million.

Our LAWS require that the  Executive Branch ENFORCE THE DAMN BORDERS.  It's the number one job of the Federal government.

Why do libs even talk about "law"?

Quote from: drjim893 on July 27, 2014, 03:52:49 PM
I am just not sure how, in practical terms how we remove 11 million people, some here for 30 or more years.

And I think you have to be careful before assuming the public is on the side of deportation. Virtually every poll ends up suggesting Americans want a path to legality if not to citizenship.

Winning means getting an answer that does not divide the nation, nor prevent the Right from ever winning another presidential election for the loss of all minorities.
Winning policy should not mean losing elections, which it well might if you expel 11 million.

Cut their benefits. No job, no welfare, life is better in Mexico, problem solved.

BTW, "we" have been using that 11 million figure for as long as I can remember. At least a decade.  Glad to see we haven't had any new ILLEGAL INVADERS for this long.  I suppose it'll still be 11 million Illegals in 2020.

Quote from: drjim893 on July 27, 2014, 03:52:49 PMI am just not sure how, in practical terms how we remove 11 million people, some here for 30 or more years.

And I think you have to be careful before assuming the public is on the side of deportation. Virtually every poll ends up suggesting Americans want a path to legality if not to citizenship.

Polls mean nothing. They are bullshit. The responders are selected by the communists.

Quote from: quiller on July 27, 2014, 08:18:54 AM
My entire formative years were spent in the Civil Rights era, and although I was too young in 1964 to go march in Washington, I surely would have. So now I'm a racist for being male and white and because I demand that THESE immigrants follow the same laws as my ancestors did --- who DID become productive Americans. (Evil capitalists and college-educated only because they paid for it, not anybody else).

If Democrats are so elitist they will not hold certain jobs in America, they should say so. If they want slaves but are too gutless to call them that, then they should say so. In the meantime these entry-level jobs ARE the stepping-stone to better things...for those who WANT to work.

Losers like gangbangers or welfare leeches? Gee, just ask a Dem. Sounds like just their kind of voter.

Interesting you should bring that up. Given that is precisely and exactly what the Democraps want, everyone living on the government plantation.....doing what the government says to do, when it says to do it.

Odd isn't it, that it was also the Democrats which resisted emancipation, which resisted an end to segregation which resisted  an end to Jim Crow laws. Not only that, but it bears pointing out that the Dims didn't just resist or oppose these things ideologically.

Oh no, they did so violently. Even splitting the nation and fighting a war over it at one point. Things that make one go hmmm.....So they resist equality, and now, attempt to enslave us all.

Good point you make there, very good point.