Quote from: kroz on July 02, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
You may be right.  But it wasn't a youth group when I attended a couple of years ago..  It was mostly mature Christians from Colorado's biggest churches.  Most were close to my age.  There were obviously some from the Christian University but not as many as you would expect.  They couldn't afford it or didn't have the time unless that was their area of study in school.  They had a lot of student workers because they were paid positions!

It is true that many conservatives do not know the negatives on all of these candidates.  They DO identify Carson with the prayer breakfast..... but he is an excellent speaker and quite persuasive!

Yep, and sadly that makes our work that much harder in trying to break the spell of a guy with absolutely no leadership experience whatsoever.

Cruz....

Quote from: kroz on July 02, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
If anything, a Christian bias would produce totally different results than this.  What bias are you thinking of?

Christians tend to like Cruz more than Fiorina.... or even Walker and Carson.  Cruz is the most overtly Christian in the pack.  But I don't think he attended the conference which put him at a disadvantage with those who have never heard him in person.

The biggest surprise to me was Carly's second place.... even above Walker!!  She may be a Christian but that is NOT her strong suit in this race.  She admits that spiritually was not very important to her until she got breast cancer. (foxhole faith) That was her wake-up call.  She still isn't vocal about her faith unless she is in a Christian audience.  Cruz is much more open about his Christian faith.  Therefore I see no overt bias here.

Scott Walker is an evangelist Christian. His Father a Preacher! He never denies his faith, in fact he runs on it! 

Poll numbers are meaningless this early in the game.  They ALWAYS swing widely before the first primary.

Here is my own personal rating of the R candidates, based on their personal character, and positions on the issues:

(Not on "electability" which is just a BS term the ruling clique uses to fool people into voting for RINOs.)

In rank order, they are:

Would be a good President:
CRUZ       good debater.
TRUMP       tough fighter.
PAUL       strong advocate of freedom.
JINDAL       good Governor.
WALKER       tough fighter.
SANTORUM    good values.

Good, but with some reservations:
CARSON       good except on gun control.
HUCKABEE    good for Fair Tax, but might compromise with Dems in other areas.
FIORINA       was member of McCain's posse. I question her sincerity.
RUBIO       might be an Establishment mole.
PERRY       conservatives in Texas feel betrayed by him.

Might as well be a Democrat:
PATAKI       repudiated Trump's statement on illegal aliens.
CHRISTIE       New Jersey's credit rating is plummeting.
BUSH       no more!  plus, STILL pushing Common Core.
KASICH       repeatedly betrays conservatives in Ohio.
GRAHAM       Grahamnesty.

Well it looks like Cruz is winning the poll  I like Cruz he's the only one that has said something that actually made sense, and stayed within the confines of our Constitution after the obozodontcare ruling and the gay marriage rulings. Instead of running round being a hypocritical, farcical, conveyor of doom and gloom. He suggested instead, that the Congress amend the Constitution so justices are elected, just like the President and the Congress. It's a good suggestion, and one that I hope people will really think about and consider seriously.

That said I don't have much hope that anyone will though. Unless he is elected President. So yeah I think I could vote for Cruz.

Quote from: daidalos on July 02, 2015, 02:57:43 PM
Well it looks like Cruz is winning the poll  I like Cruz he's the only one that has said something that actually made sense, and stayed within the confines of our Constitution after the obozodontcare ruling and the gay marriage rulings. Instead of running round being a hypocritical, farcical, conveyor of doom and gloom. He suggested instead, that the Congress amend the Constitution so justices are elected, just like the President and the Congress. It's a good suggestion, and one that I hope people will really think about and consider seriously.

That said I don't have much hope that anyone will though. Unless he is elected President. So yeah I think I could vote for Cruz.

That's never gonna happen and I don't agree with it anyway. Congress has other options. They just lack the backbone. Mark Levin and others have talked about this.

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2015, 01:55:31 PM
Yep, and sadly that makes our work that much harder in trying to break the spell of a guy with absolutely no leadership experience whatsoever.

Cruz....

Which means we should ignore anyone who has only been in the Senate and/or has no experience outside of political office. BTW, at what point did we start to believe that our politics should only be for professional politicians. People who have done nothing in their life but run for public office.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 02, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
Which means we should ignore anyone who has only been in the Senate and/or has no experience outside of political office. BTW, at what point did we start to believe that our politics should only be for professional politicians. People who have done nothing in their life but run for public office.

I'm not talking about political experience and you damn well know it, assuming you actually read my post..
The guy has absolutely no experience beyond a hospital.

I want someone like Cruz, a man that has a firm grasp of our Constitution, a man with core values, not some wish washy doctor that doesn't even understand the 2nd, just one part of the Bill of Rights.