http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2015/12/06/what-are-you-thoughts-about-the-presidents-speech-from-the-oval-office-tonight/
If he's so serious about protecting America, and going after Isis, why aren't we leveling Raqqa right now?
That's their capital city, why aren't we bombing it? Once again the President thinks the way to respond to islamic aggression, is by attacking the God given rights of Americans. He's so worried about turning our backs on our values as Americans. Yet suggests at the same time, we should strip American's of the very right's those values stem from.
What good would leveling Raqqa do? ....Likely create a mass exodus of ISIS fighters into other strongholds... thanks to the idiotic policy of the Hussein administration we practically tell these people when and where we are striking..And as it is this guy wants to import ten thousand more (thats and army division by the way) of these people.
Add that to the number of ISalmic terrorists hiding in cells like the one we just saw in San Bernadino......THATS THEREAL PROBLEM....the ones already here, Hussein is doing nothing about that, if anythinghe is encouraging and emboldening them with this silly talk.
We did something a little different tonight, we WANTED to see the football pre-game show, we DIDN'T want to get lectured.
So, we minimized the picture, only BO's head was showing, and the muted it.
Then I let the kids comment on BO's facial expression...
And have concluded, he looks like he is stressed out, overworked. Since he couldn't muster a smile, the kids suggested he *might* be trying to LECTURE or TALK DOWN to the audience & he does not love (or like) the audience. His head bobbing at the end of speaking... what was that? Trying to emphasize something he personally doesn't believe? Not head shaking (as a NO), but bobbing up and down (as a YES).
MEH ... what would kids know anyways..
Quote from: daidalos on December 06, 2015, 05:21:18 PM
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2015/12/06/what-are-you-thoughts-about-the-presidents-speech-from-the-oval-office-tonight/
If he's so serious about protecting America, and going after Isis, why aren't we leveling Raqqa right now?
Hard call. There are a lot of Syrian civilians still living there.
Obama is so worthless.
Thirty wasted minutes.
splitting hairs. We're not at war with Islam. Yes we are at war with Islam. I wonder if we looked at how many countries have large populations of Muslims that do follow that brand of Sharia Law Islam. Almost the entire ME, large portions of the populations in Africa and Asia. Enclaves in Europe and the United States. It isn't miniscule.
Damn... I nodded-off before the retard came-on.
Quote from: kit saginaw on December 06, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
Damn... I nodded-off before the retard came-on.
Oh my husband called me in from putting up Christmas lights and I lost the last few minutes of daylight for nothing.
Quote from: kit saginaw on December 06, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
Damn... I nodded-off before the retard came-on.
I was watching the last of the snow melt. :biggrin:
Quote from: Dori on December 06, 2015, 06:18:28 PM
Hard call. There are a lot of Syrian civilians still living there.
All the people not supportive of ISIS have long since fled. In any case there were civilians in Berlin and Tokyo also, that didn't slow us down then.
Basically everyone is shocked he used the word Islam. How pathetic is that?
I'll bet you can take every declarative sentence he made, then add the caveat: " Certainly not with me still serving as your President, however, " and have it all make logical sense.
I was busy with more serious matters...... watching football!
Quote from: kroz on December 07, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
I was busy with more serious matters...... watching football!
Watching paint dry would have been more appealing than listening to an terrorist enabler.
Quote from: kroz on December 07, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
I was busy with more serious matters...... watching football!
:thumbsup:
Me too...I have it taped, as it came on after the game I was watching.
I did watch Obozo blow sunshine up America's ass and I wan't impressed. He said what we wanted to hear, just like all politicians. :rolleyes:
Quote from: mdgiles on December 06, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
All the people not supportive of ISIS have long since fled. In any case there were civilians in Berlin and Tokyo also, that didn't slow us down then.
You are right. While regrettable the fact that civilians were around did not stop us from doing what we needed to do, to degrade and destroy the enemies ability to wage war. In WWII we still knew how to fight all out warfare such as that. Liberals infesting our nation today however, think we should all hold hands and sing songs around the campfire while the smore's are cooking! They don't know what the term All out, total warfare even means.
Quote from: kroz on December 07, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
I was busy with more serious matters...... watching football!
Ditto :thumbsup:
Ok so I'm watching the news conference.
Who the hell are these doctors? What the hell is this, parade the foreigners out and say "see they're not all bad" crap? :rolleyes:
I am about sick to death of the media running around trying to hold up examples of why we should not just simply expel any muslims we find in the United States.
Quote from: daidalos on December 07, 2015, 08:05:15 AM
Ok so I'm watching the news conference.
Who the hell are these doctors? What the hell is this, parade the foreigners out and say "see they're not all bad" crap? :rolleyes:
I am about sick to death of the media running around trying to hold up examples of why we should not just simply expel any muslims we find in the United States.
Unfortunately, some were born here - like that butcher in San Bernardino - and we may not be able to get rid of them. All the other ones, even if they are citizens we should send back where they came from, because it's impossible to be a Muslim, and honestly take the oath of allegiance to The Constitution of the United States.
Obama isn't interested in protecting American citizens or protecting this country. His stooge Attorney General wants to take away our First Amendment rights. Hillary Clinton, while Secretary of State, attended a meeting in Istanbul, the subject of which was an international law banning criticism of Islam.
I believe we are being led by traitors who wish to destroy the US and level the playing field so that everyone will live in what is, in effect, a third world country. Except them, of course, they will have Saudi Money
I can think of only two possible reasons they are doing this. One, Obama is a Muslim surrounded by Muslims who he has infiltrated into our government, or two, Saudi money is paying them all off to establish a world-wide Caliphate.
I didn't listen to him last night as anything he has to say is of no interest to me.
http://www.youngcons.com/ralph-peters-has-some-very-strong-words-for-obamas-speech-sunday-night/
Col. Peters was not impressed either. I wish he would tell us how he really feels about Obama.
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 07, 2015, 12:30:47 PM
http://www.youngcons.com/ralph-peters-has-some-very-strong-words-for-obamas-speech-sunday-night/
Col. Peters was not impressed either. I wish he would tell us how he really feels about Obama.
'BO has done more damage to Police Departments than he has to ISIS...'
.... IRS audit coming...
Quote from: Hoofer on December 07, 2015, 12:45:15 PM
'BO has done more damage to Police Departments than he has to ISIS...'
.... IRS audit coming...
Based on Col. Peters' previous statements the audits have probably already been done. Obama does not take criticism well.
Look, I understand the need to vent as well as any, however all of this when is Obama going to do this, or when is he going to do that BS, is utterly fruitless, the issue here, the only issue here, is why the congress has not removed this very obvious traitor from office, why are they not demanding his immediate resignation?
Those are the real questions, that they have not been asked leads to some very disturbing conclusions....
Quote from: Tacoma on December 07, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Look, I understand the need to vent as well as any, however all of this when is Obama going to do this, or when is he going to do that BS, is utterly fruitless, the issue here, the only issue here, is why the congress has not removed this very obvious traitor from office, why are they not demanding his immediate resignation?
Those are the real questions, that they have not been asked leads to some very disturbing conclusions....
There may be 2 political parties, but only one goal in mind. TEA is in the way of that goal. Yea, it would appear congress and the senate actually support POTUS's policies, now that's disturbing!
Quote from: Hoofer on December 07, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
There may be 2 political parties, but only one goal in mind. TEA is in the way of that goal. Yea, it would appear congress and the senate actually support POTUS's policies, now that's disturbing!
Its well beyond appearance, Marko Rubio just last week voted affirmatively to allow Obama's muslim refugee thing to proceed ahead virtually unchecked, and he still maintains a highly favored status in the rino party! There really are not two parties, there is one political party under the firm control of the Marxists, with a smattering of virtually effectless opposition from a tiny handful of decent human beings who wield absolutely no sway within this political arrangement, along with a substantial amount of Grubering to the contrary by the majority of the parties elected rep's, who do!
I'll tell you what we should be very very afraid of, Obama's deal with Iran, its a brazen treason that plainly is/was intended to harm the USA and its ally, Israel! Over 2/3rds of the congress signed off on it, fake republicans in the senate crafted legislation necessary for allowing Obama to skirt the constitutional provisions barring any such deals absent the senate's involvement, it was called the Corker amendment and it is why this deal was allowed to proceed ahead, it made a mockery of the constitutions treaty provisions and allowed Obama to release $150,000,000 in cash to the mullahs, who will undoubtedly be earmarking billions of it toward arming jihadi's on a scale never before seen!
Surprise, Muslims already complaining that Obama asked for help.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-mosques-idUSKBN0TR2PH20151208#uvZBVKmBeQ0gCWqz.97
Give it up liberals, Americans are never going to allow you to disarm them, or deprive them of their God given rights, without any due process of any kind.
Obama's ISIS response stirs Democratic angst about 2016
Democrats are increasingly fearful that President Obama's handling of the threat from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is becoming a liability for their party.
Those fears have become more acute after Obama's Sunday evening address from the Oval Office, where the president unveiled little by way of news or strategic shifts.
"Weak and unclear," Democratic strategist Hank Sheinkopf told The Hill, when asked for his reaction to Obama's remarks. "What is the plan of action?"
Sheinkopf added that, at this point, "any rational person would worry about his legacy, and any rational Democrat would worry about the Democrats being injured in an electoral setting."
This vulnerability is all the more frustrating to Democrats because at one point during Obama's presidency — the period immediately following the operation that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011 — they believed that the party's traditional disadvantage on issues of national security had been erased.
In a CNN/ORC poll shortly after the al Qaeda leader's death, 65 percent of Americans approved of Obama's handling of terrorism, against 34 percent who disapproved.
Obama enjoyed a similar rating on the issue at the beginning of his second term, which followed an election campaign during which his vice president, Joe Biden, had boiled down the case for reelection to the fact that America had become more prosperous and safe: "Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive."
But the president's poll ratings on terrorism began sliding soon afterward, and they have now been completely reversed from their high point.
In a CNN/ORC poll released last week, only 38 percent approved of his handling of terrorism, while 60 percent disapproved — the lowest mark of his presidency. Asked specifically about Obama's approach to ISIS, 33 percent approved and 64 percent disapproved.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/262396-obamas-isis-response-stirs-dem-angst-about-2016
Quote from: Solar on December 09, 2015, 06:10:56 AM
Obama's ISIS response stirs Democratic angst about 2016
Democrats are increasingly fearful that President Obama's handling of the threat from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is becoming a liability for their party.
Those fears have become more acute after Obama's Sunday evening address from the Oval Office, where the president unveiled little by way of news or strategic shifts.
"Weak and unclear," Democratic strategist Hank Sheinkopf told The Hill, when asked for his reaction to Obama's remarks. "What is the plan of action?"
Sheinkopf added that, at this point, "any rational person would worry about his legacy, and any rational Democrat would worry about the Democrats being injured in an electoral setting."
This vulnerability is all the more frustrating to Democrats because at one point during Obama's presidency — the period immediately following the operation that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011 — they believed that the party's traditional disadvantage on issues of national security had been erased.
In a CNN/ORC poll shortly after the al Qaeda leader's death, 65 percent of Americans approved of Obama's handling of terrorism, against 34 percent who disapproved.
Obama enjoyed a similar rating on the issue at the beginning of his second term, which followed an election campaign during which his vice president, Joe Biden, had boiled down the case for reelection to the fact that America had become more prosperous and safe: "Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive."
But the president's poll ratings on terrorism began sliding soon afterward, and they have now been completely reversed from their high point.
In a CNN/ORC poll released last week, only 38 percent approved of his handling of terrorism, while 60 percent disapproved — the lowest mark of his presidency. Asked specifically about Obama's approach to ISIS, 33 percent approved and 64 percent disapproved.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/262396-obamas-isis-response-stirs-dem-angst-about-2016
Obama has paved the way for GOP candidates to make terrorism the #1 issue of 2016!
And Benghazi puts Hillary at a definite deficit on this issue. She has been proven ineffective and wonton on terrorism!!
National security will beat out the economy in this election!