Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 10, 2015, 06:36:25 PM
Explain that with sources.

All this proves is that the the blacks who don't have a criminal record are smart enough not to want to jeopardize everything they've worked hard for all of their lives by strapping on a gun and a badge and putting  a big bulls-eye on their backs!

And I don't blame them one bit.

If they came from the inner city, they had to fight hard against peer pressure not to give in to the thug lifestyle. If they worked hard in school and got good grades, they were outcasts - called Uncle Tom's and Porch Ni&&ers and worse...

In the end, the prevailed and lifted themselves, by there own bootstraps, out of that infernal cesspool.

And now the NYPD can't understand why a person who suffered through all of that, doesn't want to risk his/her life to return to the very hell on Earth that they worked so hard to extricate themselves from?

Really? REALLY!

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 10, 2015, 08:59:52 PM
All this proves is that the the blacks who don't have a criminal record are smart enough not to want to jeopardize everything they've worked hard for all of their lives by strapping on a gun and a badge and putting  a big bulls-eye on their backs!

And I don't blame them one bit.

If they came from the inner city, they had to fight hard against peer pressure not to give in to the thug lifestyle. If they worked hard in school and got good grades, they were outcasts - called Uncle Tom's and Porch Ni&&ers and worse...

In the end, the prevailed and lifted themselves, by there own bootstraps, out of that infernal cesspool.

And now the NYPD can't understand why a person who suffered through all of that, doesn't want to risk his/her life to return to the very hell on Earth that they worked so hard to extricate themselves from?

Really? REALLY!

That's exactly how I see it too. It's become a thankless job, a job that at one time was respected by the community.
But today a Community organizer posing as a POTUS is systematically destroy race relations and placing the blame on the very people sworn to protect them.
Marxism 101, (Alynsky rules) stolen from Sun Tzu, "Divide and Conquer".

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 10, 2015, 08:59:52 PM
All this proves is that the the blacks who don't have a criminal record are smart enough not to want to jeopardize everything they've worked hard for all of their lives by strapping on a gun and a badge and putting  a big bulls-eye on their backs!

And I don't blame them one bit.

If they came from the inner city, they had to fight hard against peer pressure not to give in to the thug lifestyle. If they worked hard in school and got good grades, they were outcasts - called Uncle Tom's and Porch Ni&&ers and worse...

In the end, the prevailed and lifted themselves, by there own bootstraps, out of that infernal cesspool.

And now the NYPD can't understand why a person who suffered through all of that, doesn't want to risk his/her life to return to the very hell on Earth that they worked so hard to extricate themselves from?

Really? REALLY!

Ahh, so you do understand. Look most white people don't want to be cops IF you can find a better paying job. Why would someone black want to patrol those mean streets, dealing with those same A-holes who used to try and take your lunch money. Because that's what you'll be dealing with, the police have almost no interaction with the quiet, honest residents of the inner cities. That's why those interactions turn out so badly when they do happen; Police used to dealing with thugs and hoodlums react badly when someone honest doesn't act the way they expect them too.

For one thing:
These people need to learn to tell the truth.
Not one of the cop shootings proved that the cops love shooting blacks. (even their guilt)
That cop that pushed the girl down was justified. (will not obey orders)  He had two blacks coming toward him in a threatening way, pull your gun. This country has lost it due to hatred.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 10, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
Typical liberal naive thinking. If there are less police there will be more Blacks killing Blacks.

Let me get this straight, now, just to be sure. 
1) Police in New York are having trouble finding black candidates with clean records.
2) Many of those arrests and convictions result from stop and frisk policies.
Proposed solution: The police lighten up on stop and frisk, there will be fewer arrests; hence, a greater pool of qualified candidates to be policemen.

Ah, OK, I think I see it.   

The NYPD has never had a problem getting black police officers...it has a problem getting MALE African Americans.  Female blacks have always been available and since more of them have "some college" and no major records, they have been a great source.  West Indians, Haitians and Africans also pass through with few problems (although the populations are smaller).  30% of  eligible male African Americans are eliminated by felony records.  Add to that, all the eliminators which equally impact on other groups (psychological screening, poor work records, medical screening, etc.) and the eligible pool becomes small.  Finally, add in the social elements...police officers are viewed in a negative manner by black communities and amongst young African Americans a male cop from the neighborhood is viewed as a pariah.  Curiously, female Blacks are not as stigmatized and it is view as upward mobility.  The NYPD recruitment is going through a boom time amongst Eastern European (Poles and former USSR) immigrants and is seriously gaining ground amongst Asians.

Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2015, 05:59:14 AM
That's exactly how I see it too. It's become a thankless job, a job that at one time was respected by the community.
But today a Community organizer posing as a POTUS is systematically destroy race relations and placing the blame on the very people sworn to protect them.
Marxism 101, (Alynsky rules) stolen from Sun Tzu, "Divide and Conquer".

Mark Levin just recited a long narrative on the war on police, concluding that it is the "Ferguson Success Story," for Obama, Jarrett, and Holder.

Quote from: red_dirt on June 11, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
Mark Levin just recited a long narrative on the war on police, concluding that it is the "Ferguson Success Story," for Obama, Jarrett, and Holder.

He's absolutely correct. Look at all the morons repeating how cops target blacks.
Yes, to the Marxist, it's agenda complete.

Quote from: darroll on June 11, 2015, 11:25:05 AM
For one thing:
These people need to learn to tell the truth.
Not one of the cop shootings proved that the cops love shooting blacks. (even their guilt)
That cop that pushed the girl down was justified. (will not obey orders)  He had two blacks coming toward him in a threatening way, pull your gun. This country has lost it due to hatred.

Did you see the video of the shooting in North Charleston, or are you ignoring it because it doesn't fit your narrative?

Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2015, 08:39:22 PM
He's absolutely correct. Look at all the morons repeating how cops target blacks.
Yes, to the Marxist, it's agenda complete.

Yes no doubt about it the police are special, and should never be held responsible for anything. After all we have to let them do anything and everything , or they won't do anything - even what they're paid for. You know you can go on You Tube and see video after video of police brutality, and it simply doesn't register with some people. People willing to overlook anything for "Law and Order" are the same kind of people who VOTED the Nazis into power. And that scares the crap out of me!

Quote from: mdgiles on June 12, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
Yes no doubt about it the police are special, and should never be held responsible for anything. After all we have to let them do anything and everything , or they won't do anything - even what they're paid for. You know you can go on You Tube and see video after video of police brutality, and it simply doesn't register with some people. People willing to overlook anything for "Law and Order" are the same kind of people who VOTED the Nazis into power. And that scares the crap out of me!

NO! You're a fool to buy into the Marxist media hype that this shit is racially motivated by the cops. The only racial component, comes from the left stirring up idiots that react emotionally!

Moron! You are exactly the kind of fool I am talking about, you, like a lemming, jumped right on the racism bandwagon and never looked back.
Deny it all you want Giles, but Pavlov's point is proven. You are reacting as programmed by the Marxist agenda, and you can't even see you're the useful idiot you always rail against. Are you going to be a Pathetic Tool, or open your God Damned eyes for once?

Quote from: red_dirt on June 11, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
Let me get this straight, now, just to be sure. 
1) Police in New York are having trouble finding black candidates with clean records.
2) Many of those arrests and convictions result from stop and frisk policies.
Proposed solution: The police lighten up on stop and frisk, there will be fewer arrests; hence, a greater pool of qualified candidates to be policemen.

Ah, OK, I think I see it.   

That's crazy talk.  Stop and Frisk reduces crimes in and protects minority neighborhoods.  If the people aren't doing anything illegal, there won't be any records.  But it's kind of a moot point, being de Blasio has stopped "Stop and Frisk".  And the result is; higher crime and more murders in minority neighborhoods.   

Quote from: mdgiles on June 12, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
Yes no doubt about it the police are special, and should never be held responsible for anything. After all we have to let them do anything and everything , or they won't do anything - even what they're paid for. You know you can go on You Tube and see video after video of police brutality, and it simply doesn't register with some people. People willing to overlook anything for "Law and Order" are the same kind of people who VOTED the Nazis into power. And that scares the crap out of me!

I agree with you more than you realize, Giles....31 of my 35 years "on the Job" were as a supervisor and you quickly learn that bosses who are ALWAYS "stand up guys" get taken advantage of by the troops.  Very early on, cops learn to have a story ready.  Today, more than ever, supervisors who accept the narrative rather than seeking the truth find themselves if not co-defendant then facing departmental charges.  Hey, it's a tough job and cops make mistakes that have dire consequences.  They also make  stress-related poor decisions....and there is a small number who are bad people.  There are always people that other cops do not want to ride with and you learn to watch them and those they buddy up with.

Quote from: Dori on June 12, 2015, 06:45:43 AM
That's crazy talk.  Stop and Frisk reduces crimes in and protects minority neighborhoods.  If the people aren't doing anything illegal, there won't be any records.  But it's kind of a moot point, being de Blasio has stopped "Stop and Frisk".  And the result is; higher crime and more murders in minority neighborhoods.   

It's not a moot point if crimes are up but arrests are down.  The only people suffering are the people living in those areas.