Quote from: p1tchblack on July 26, 2021, 10:09:32 AMI can't make my case when you don't want to discuss the actual topic.

It is opinion. I have many opinions about what I constitutional and what isn't. Those would seem to belong in the Constitution section of the forum.

Yes, I do ignore a lot of what you write, because you generally try to take the conversation off course.

For example, what do TC's claims about the NSA have to do with antifa/blm and domestic terrorism?

           

The delusion runs deep in this one. It was you that tried derailing the subject by claiming spying on Americans is valid, simply because it's your "Opinion".

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where the govt is allowed to spy on its citizens.

Even as we speak, your electric meter is spying on you, though no human is watching it, the utility is gleaning information that could later be used against if needed.
Even one of your hero leftist SCOTUS Justices noted the issue.

These questions matter immensely in today's world, given the amount of information an individual's digital footprint contains. As Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has recognized, a great deal of personal information can be gleaned about a person's habits by simply knowing the places he has traveled during a prolonged period. You might learn that person's religious affiliation; if they cheat on their spouse; if they have a gambling habit; or if they exercise regularly, drink excessively, or engage in many other activities that, taken together, paint a revealing picture of that person's life.

Point is, you're a gullible fool who has no issue with our govt spying on us.

Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2021, 11:46:34 AM           

The delusion runs deep in this one. It was you that tried derailing the subject by claiming spying on Americans is valid, simply because it's your "Opinion".

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where the govt is allowed to spy on its citizens.

Even as we speak, your electric meter is spying on you, though no human is watching it, the utility is gleaning information that could later be used against if needed.
Even one of your hero leftist SCOTUS Justices noted the issue.

These questions matter immensely in today's world, given the amount of information an individual's digital footprint contains. As Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has recognized, a great deal of personal information can be gleaned about a person's habits by simply knowing the places he has traveled during a prolonged period. You might learn that person's religious affiliation; if they cheat on their spouse; if they have a gambling habit; or if they exercise regularly, drink excessively, or engage in many other activities that, taken together, paint a revealing picture of that person's life.

Point is, you're a gullible fool who has no issue with our govt spying on us.

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says a person can be denied the right to own a gun.

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says a person can be punished for exercising their right to free speech.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 26, 2021, 03:06:08 PMShow me anywhere in the Constitution where it says a person can be denied the right to own a gun.

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says a person can be punished for exercising their right to free speech.

As I suspected, you can't so you attempt a goal post move. You are sooo transparent kid.

Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2021, 03:40:14 PMAs I suspected, you can't so you attempt a goal post move. You are sooo transparent kid.

Nope. I was making the points that none of our freedoms are absolute, even if we believe they should be.  I'm trying to discuss the details of this situation, while you are trying to discuss something completely different.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 05:47:47 AMNope. I was making the points that none of our freedoms are absolute, even if we believe they should be.  I'm trying to discuss the details of this situation, while you are trying to discuss something completely different.

Oh Jeeeez, do you take us for idiots? It's blatantly obvious you're way out of your league and needed to move the goal post, even a 7 year old would nail you for pulling that shit!

This is the kind of shit kids do when they know they're fucked, simply move the subject and hope people don't notice.
How many times did you get in trouble and smacked around, saying "Gee mommy, you look pretty".
Mom: OK, what did you fuck up this time?

We're adults, we are not emotional tools like you trolls, we are all about facts, try sticking to them and the subject at hand.
Remember what the subject is? Try it!

Quote from: Solar on July 27, 2021, 05:57:47 AMOh Jeeeez, do you take us for idiots? It's blatantly obvious you're way out of your league and needed to move the goal post, even a 7 year old would nail you for pulling that shit!

This is the kind of shit kids do when they know they're fucked, simply move the subject and hope people don't notice.
How many times did you get in trouble and smacked around, saying "Gee mommy, you look pretty".
Mom: OK, what did you fuck up this time?

We're adults, we are not emotional tools like you trolls, we are all about facts, try sticking to them and the subject at hand.
Remember what the subject is? Try it!

So am I. The difference, again, is that I was trying to discuss the facts of the Tucker Carlson situation as it relates to current law and you are trying to discuss the constitutionality of spying in general. In other words, all we are doing is talking past each other.

Quote from: p1tchblack on July 27, 2021, 06:13:40 AMSo am I. The difference, again, is that I was trying to discuss the facts of the Tucker Carlson situation as it relates to current law and you are trying to discuss the constitutionality of spying in general. In other words, all we are doing is talking past each other.

No dumb ass, and everyone sees it. You're trying to justify your bull shit by claiming laws are broken, a very weak argument.
The NSA has not been around all that long and to top it off they're abusing their powers. The NSA is unconstitutional, so get over it!