Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:15:49 PM

We have aborted more children then was killed in both bombs.  We will prosecute anyone who destroys the eggs of protected species and yet allow the killing of the unborn.

So it was ok to kill the children with the atom bombs because there were less of them. Ok.

Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2011, 08:16:12 PM
WOW, you really are dense, aren't you?
Planned parenthood has it's roots in eugenics!

So what? They only provide abortion, they didn't invent it.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 08, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
So it was ok to kill the children with the atom bombs because there were less of them. Ok.

What did I say?  You are looking to justify your reasoning by comparing the atom bomb to the slaughter of millions of unborn children.  Both are tragic but are we still lighting off nukes?  No.  Are we still killing the unborn?  Yes.

Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:16:48 PM
Wow!  Did you just make a wild ass guess or could there have been a slight acknowledgement of their intent.

Planned parenthood provides healthcare to people who can't afford it. Why would they be in wealthy areas?

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 08, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
Planned parenthood provides healthcare to people who can't afford it. Why would they be in wealthy areas?

Has PP EVER renounced Sanger, the founder of such an evil organization?

Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:20:52 PM

What did I say?  You are looking to justify your reasoning by comparing the atom bomb to the slaughter of millions of unborn children.  Both are tragic but are we still lighting off nukes?  No.  Are we still killing the unborn?  Yes.

We're still dropping bombs on kids.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 08, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
We're still dropping bombs on kids.

Your attempt to rationalize your obviously distorted view is becoming laughable.  You pervert one idea to justify your perverted reasoning to support euginics.  Typical of liberals.

Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
Has PP EVER renounced Sanger, the founder of such an evil organization?

I don't care. They provide a necessary service now. Evidently this is now an anti-Planned Parenthood argument and not an anti-abortion argument. If PP disappeared we'd still have abortions.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 07, 2011, 05:15:15 PM
You have no right to protect life in general. Only your own.

That's not true. Self-defense encompasses those around you.

Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:23:05 PM

Your attempt to rationalize your obviously distorted view is becoming laughable.  You pervert one idea to justify your perverted reasoning to support euginics.  Typical of liberals.

And you are using a logical fallacy to distract from the debate. Your Argument to Emotion is a poor way to debate.

The simple fact is that you choose which killing is acceptable. In both cases the end result is dead kids and dead people.

Quote from: Tennenbaum on September 08, 2011, 08:23:14 PM
I don't care. They provide a necessary service now. Evidently this is now an anti-Planned Parenthood argument and not an anti-abortion argument. If PP disappeared we'd still have abortions.

It's talking about the intent of PP that you are trying your damnedest to avoid.  She started it to rid us of blacks, and the unwanted in society.  PP has NEVER once renounced her or her views and yet you think they are somehow doing saintly work.  They were started with evil intent and continue to do it to this day.

Quote from: Harry on September 08, 2011, 08:24:39 PM

That's not true. Self-defense encompasses those around you.

Even those who refuse your protection?

Quote from: bama_beau_redux on September 08, 2011, 08:25:55 PM
Those around you would probably have a stronger association than "life in general".

Yes, such as my child?

Quote from: Seawolf on September 08, 2011, 08:25:31 PM
It's talking about the intent of PP that you are trying your damnedest to avoid.  She started it to rid us of blacks, and the unwanted in society.  PP has NEVER once renounced her or her views and yet you think they are somehow doing saintly work.  They were started with evil intent and continue to do it to this day.

I don't care what the intent was. I don't care for your demand that the group renounce some ridiculous theory that a huge percentage of the population at that time subscribed to.

Quote from: Harry on September 08, 2011, 08:26:40 PM

Yes, such as my child?

And to protect your child you feel its ok to force a woman through 9 months of pregnancy and then a painful birth? You usurp her right to control her own body?