Quote from: Dr_Watt on July 06, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Yes, but will that party be the Republican Party?

-Dr Watt

Not necessarily. If republicans want to represent conservatives, they need to start walking the walk.

I thought they had killed that project when Brown didn't obtain the necessary environmental waivers?

Quote from: kramarat on July 06, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
Santa Cruz isn't southern, but the sad part is, if they happen to wake up and remember it's voting day....................they're going to go vote for Capt. Charisma. The pied piper of the uninformed. The liar in chief.

There are a hell of a lot of underrepresented conservatives in CA. I hope they find a voice. I'm proud of Issa for sticking to his guns.

I believe the Walker win in Wisconsin, is enabling some other republicans to finally grow some balls. It's about time.

At least democrats tend to lay their blatant dishonesty out on the table..........................or maybe it it just spills onto the table, because there's so much of it.

My tolerance for lying republicans has reached it's peak.

Ahh for some reason I thought you said Santa Barbara.
Santa Cruz is San Franfreako's biggest zit and they have many.
I used to go their in my younger days, I just never got it, never understood what it was that these people saw in life, Hell, still don't.
My only attraction was the beach, the town itself is frozen in time, the worst of the 60s.

Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2012, 05:25:11 AM
Ahh for some reason I thought you said Santa Barbara.
Santa Cruz is San Franfreako's biggest zit and they have many.
I used to go their in my younger days, I just never got it, never understood what it was that these people saw in life, Hell, still don't.
My only attraction was the beach, the town itself is frozen in time, the worst of the 60s.

I lived in San Lorenzo valley.

If you didn't like the hippies, you really wouldn't like it now. My wife and I went out about 7 years ago for a visit. The hippies have been replaced with Goth people...................................black eye shadow, trench coats, spiked hair, lifeless eyes..................it's dark.

Her parents live down south. I probably won't ever see Santa Cruz again. The fishing there, was awesome though.
I lived there for 11 years and never felt like I belonged there.

Quote from: kramarat on July 07, 2012, 05:39:07 AM
I lived in San Lorenzo valley.

If you didn't like the hippies, you really wouldn't like it now. My wife and I went out about 7 years ago for a visit. The hippies have been replaced with Goth people...................................black eye shadow, trench coats, spiked hair, lifeless eyes..................it's dark.

Her parents live down south. I probably won't ever see Santa Cruz again. The fishing there, was awesome though.
I lived there for 11 years and never felt like I belonged there.

Id take Goth over a leach/hippy any day, at least with a Goth, two things happen, they either grow out of it, or kill themselves over depression.
Hippies never grow up as long as the Govt is feeding them.

It's sad how the libs ruined such beautiful areas, but that's what happens when scum move in, good people move out and it becomes a mecca for those looking for handouts.
You know the ones, the Dim base.

Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2012, 05:56:23 AM
Id take Goth over a leach/hippy any day, at least with a Goth, two things happen, they either grow out of it, or kill themselves over depression.
Hippies never grow up as long as the Govt is feeding them.

It's sad how the libs ruined such beautiful areas, but that's what happens when scum move in, good people move out and it becomes a mecca for those looking for handouts.
You know the ones, the Dim base.

Well, just like the rest of the country, it appears that libs control everything there. There are a hell of a lot of conservatives in them thar hills.....................they just don't happen to hang out in the street. As the democrats continue to piss money down the drain, and cripple the CA economy, I'd be willing to bet that there are a few more, (at least fiscal), conservatives born every day.

I look forward to the coming months and the ramp up of Romney's campaign. If he does nothing but point out the financial ruin that democrats and Obama leave in their wake, he'll win. Although, I also want to hear a clear plan from him on how he intends to fix this disaster.

Quote from: kramarat on July 07, 2012, 06:15:51 AM
Well, just like the rest of the country, it appears that libs control everything there. There are a hell of a lot of conservatives in them thar hills.....................they just don't happen to hang out in the street. As the democrats continue to piss money down the drain, and cripple the CA economy, I'd be willing to bet that there are a few more, (at least fiscal), conservatives born every day.

I look forward to the coming months and the ramp up of Romney's campaign. If he does nothing but point out the financial ruin that democrats and Obama leave in their wake, he'll win. Although, I also want to hear a clear plan from him on how he intends to fix this disaster.

Yeah, most conservatives can't stand what libs do to these place and bail, like me, I moved to the Sierra, where other like minded live.

If Pubs would simply de-fund all these lib handout programs, cut them off at the knees, what you would see virtually overnight, is libs hating Govt, the Govt that let them down, in turn making them fen for themselves for once in their life.
It's what makes conservatives prosper, take away the net and one is forced to make it on their own, the way life was intended, to be a series of challenges that makes one stronger and prosper.

Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2012, 06:29:34 AM
Yeah, most conservatives can't stand what libs do to these place and bail, like me, I moved to the Sierra, where other like minded live.

If Pubs would simply de-fund all these lib handout programs, cut them off at the knees, what you would see virtually overnight, is libs hating Govt, the Govt that let them down, in turn making them fen for themselves for once in their life.
It's what makes conservatives prosper, take away the net and one is forced to make it on their own, the way life was intended, to be a series of challenges that makes one stronger and prosper.

If the high speed rail makes it to the ballot, I suspect it will be voted down.

There's another massive, (stupid), rail project slated to happen in CT., running from Hartford to New Haven. Hundreds of millions of dollars.

The dems say it will alleviate traffic. Yeah right. The problem is, that the people creating the traffic don't live in Hartford. So people will have to get off the highway, park their cars, and ride the train the rest of the way to work. Ain't gonna happen.

I love the way they always point to the jobs that will be created by flushing more tax dollars down the shit hole. Same kind of stuff happening here. Democrat governor calling for higher taxes, (for the children ), while the spending of money on stupid projects, never slows down.

http://blog.tstc.org/2012/05/14/new-haven-hartford-springfield-rail-project-environmental-analysis-released/

Quote from: kramarat on July 07, 2012, 06:45:37 AM
If the high speed rail makes it to the ballot, I suspect it will be voted down.

There's another massive, (stupid), rail project slated to happen in CT., running from Hartford to New Haven. Hundreds of millions of dollars.

The dems say it will alleviate traffic. Yeah right. The problem is, that the people creating the traffic don't live in Hartford. So people will have to get off the highway, park their cars, and ride the train the rest of the way to work. Ain't gonna happen.

I love the way they always point to the jobs that will be created by flushing more tax dollars down the shit hole. Same kind of stuff happening here. Democrat governor calling for higher taxes, (for the children ), while the spending of money on stupid projects, never slows down.

http://blog.tstc.org/2012/05/14/new-haven-hartford-springfield-rail-project-environmental-analysis-released/

The people of this state have had it with these lib Utopian ideas, the cig tax that was defeated is a measure of this disdain people have for lib ideas.
Even though cigarettes are hated in this state, they knew it was nothing more than a way to steal more money from the people, so they put a stop to it.
The same will happen on this boondoggle of a works project disguised as a....
Oh wait, they didn't even try and hide that fact.

Uh, California is  $16 Billion dollars in the red, how are they supposed to pay for this?
And the last words I want to hear is with Federal dollars.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 07, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
Uh, California is  $16 Billion dollars in the red, how are they supposed to pay for this?
And the last words I want to hear is with Federal dollars.

They will not call it Federal dollars, it will be called a penalty for not having a high speed train.   

Quote from: mdgiles on July 07, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
Uh, California is  $16 Billion dollars in the red, how are they supposed to pay for this?
And the last words I want to hear is with Federal dollars.

Read em and weep.

http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/funding.aspx

Holy smokes!!!!

Is this total number right? $98.5 billion. Yikes!!!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/01/state-bonds.html

Quote from: kramarat on July 07, 2012, 08:15:09 AM
Holy smokes!!!!

Is this total number right? $98.5 billion. Yikes!!!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/01/state-bonds.html

What?

It's not like its their money!

-Dr Watt

Quote from: Dr_Watt on July 07, 2012, 08:17:59 AM
What?

It's not like its their money!

-Dr Watt

Oh that's right. If it's federal money, ALL of us get to pay for it.
Damn..........................I don't even get to go on a train ride.