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Title: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 01:42:22 PM
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After Jon Stewart went after Overbite, it isn't really very surprising, but hey, whatever works when you're paying $7 million per year to an asshat nobody watches....

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/05/olbermann-donated-to-three-dems-in-apparent-violation-of-nbc-policy/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/05/olbermann-donated-to-three-dems-in-apparent-violation-of-nbc-policy/)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: arpad on November 05, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Olbermann was getting $7 mill a year? Holly canolli! Does his show pay for itself? Seems unlikely given his numbers. But I suppose it's academic now.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: arpad on November 05, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Olbermann was getting $7 mill a year? Holly canolli! Does his show pay for itself? Seems unlikely given his numbers. But I suppose it's academic now.

Opinions vary on length of suspension, or how much influence was applied by folks fearing over-reaction by incoming owner Comcast, if Olbermann were NOT reined in.

There is a major power struggle going on now that Mort Zuckerman is out at NBC Universal and no longer keeping patriarchal watch over MSNBC, sidestepping the MSNBC chain of command that was not so favorable toward Olbermann's antics.

The Slimes has this on that....  http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/olbermann-suspended-from-msnbc-for-campaign-donations/?hp (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/olbermann-suspended-from-msnbc-for-campaign-donations/?hp)

Another item also from MSNBC caught my eye today. Seems that it's now openly OK there to self-identify as a socialist --- AND to go after self-professed liberals as lesser creatures. Lawrence O'Donnell came out of the closet.....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbcs-lawrence-odonnell-on-air-i-am-a-socialst/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbcs-lawrence-odonnell-on-air-i-am-a-socialst/)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:25:46 PM
Here were the overnight ratings for Election Night over cable TV news nets.

Fox stomped MSNBC by about a 3-to-1 margin.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/03/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-nov-2-2010/70754 (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/03/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-nov-2-2010/70754)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: ccd2002 on November 05, 2010, 03:36:22 PM
 

Quiller,I read the link you supplied but I did not see anything in it about Olberman getting $7million per year. Did I miss seeing something?

If he did get $7million per year,MSNBC got a royal scamming and were even more stupid than I had thought.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: zip on November 05, 2010, 03:41:24 PM
   When did john stewart go after olberman ? and about what

Its being rumored here and there that comcast isnt going for losing money so the 4 primetime idiots...mathers, olberman, schultz and madcow can spout leftist crap.
   This may very well be the first volley in a plan to dump them or totally change their behavior
   How have the msnbc stockholders put up with their low ratings for so long without pitchin a bitch
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 05, 2010, 03:45:25 PM
Looking to get rid of him?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: ccd2002 on November 05, 2010, 03:36:22 PM


Quiller,I read the link you supplied but I did not see anything in it about Olberman getting $7million per year. Did I miss seeing something?

If he did get $7million per year,MSNBC got a royal scamming and were even more stupid than I had thought.

Saw that a couple of weeks ago in one of the media watch columns. Johnny Dollar, perhaps.

Over here, though, they're not nearly so free with someone else's money, pegging it far lower....

(Dated 14 March 2007)

Quote"Countdown" averaged 709,000 total viewers in the February sweeps, up a whopping 77 percent over the same period in `06, according to Nielsen Media Research. Among 25- to 54-year-old viewers, the demographic advertisers pay a premium to reach, Olbermann, 48, spiked 59 percent. He easily beat CNN's Paula Zahn in both categories.

No wonder MSNBC just quadrupled his salary. At an estimated $4 million a year, he's the highest-paid on-air talent at the network. As part of his new four-year deal, he'll also do occasional essays for "NBC Nightly News" and prime-time "Countdown" specials for NBC.

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/article/keith-olbermann-is-mad-as-hell-and-msnbc-is-the-winner (http://www.popmatters.com/pm/article/keith-olbermann-is-mad-as-hell-and-msnbc-is-the-winner)

And while I'm on the general topic, there's the predictable groundswell from leftists....

Choke and hurl alert: source is Huffing-glue Pest....  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-green/50000-sign-petition-for-o_b_779790.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-green/50000-sign-petition-for-o_b_779790.html)

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Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: zip on November 05, 2010, 03:41:24 PM
   When did john stewart go after olberman ? and about what

VIDEO = http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks (http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: AmericanFlyer on November 05, 2010, 04:56:19 PM
HYPOCRITES and worthless suckers of oxygen, every damn one of them.  They should all be lined up and shot.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: zip on November 05, 2010, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
VIDEO = http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks (http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks)

  Ok ive seen this and I remember it now
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 05, 2010, 04:56:19 PM
HYPOCRITES and worthless suckers of oxygen, every damn one of them.  They should all be lined up and shot.

Oh, you aren't nearly cynical enough, comrade. If you haven't watched Bulworth and Network back-to-back, followed by the entire 16-show run of Max Headroom, then you are DEFINITELY not cynical enough.  ;)

One of the joys of the early days of satellite TV feeds was in finding the group of channels a given network had booked for two-way comm and for the actual news-feed. I'd sit watching those overpaid Ted Baxters and dimwitted bleach-blondes too numerous to name, all preening and self-adulating, before "going live" and pretending they knew anything at all.

It's all encrypted now. But damn it was fun watching idiots on parade.

Suggested music for this meme: Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry." 
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 05, 2010, 07:01:11 PM
Dunno if this link will work here, but it is the masterpiece performance by Ned Beatty, delivering the Primal Forces of Nature speech to the addled Howard Beale. Prepare to be upset. Runs 6:16.

Network 1976, order of things today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6nILzDiEo#)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: wally on November 06, 2010, 05:17:05 AM
Ding Dong the Dork is Dead!   

If he comes back he'll be part of the Zombie Media on MSNBC...The Talking Dead!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 06, 2010, 07:44:01 AM
Quote from: wally on November 06, 2010, 05:17:05 AM
Ding Dong the Dork is Dead!   

If he comes back he'll be part of the Zombie Media on MSNBC...The Talking Dead!

Comcast does not intend to seize and hold fourth place ANYTHING, paying out what it did for NBC-U. I can't speak with any authority about Rachel Maddow, but every clip I've seen of Olbermann does point directly to frenzied obsession that far, far, FAR surpassed Dan Rather's hate for G.W. Bush. This does NOT equate to high ad revenues if advertisers finally react to Olby's frothmouthed rants.

Nobody sane calls people "sacks of meat," or launches into the tyirades this lunatic has done. Small wonder that the Howard Beale meme is all over the Internet about this turkey. Olbermann bought his own propaganda, magnified it, and then launched straight into the Berserkosphereâ„¢.

They may have to pay him what his contract stipulates, but if NBC-U and MSNBC were actually smart, they damn sure do have something in that contract saying they are NOT obligated to actually broadcast him.

===

Correction from a prior post. It is Jeff Zucker, not Mort Zucker, who recently departed NBC-U. He had been the one playing protector for Olbermann, bypassing MSNBC executives.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: AmericanFlyer on November 06, 2010, 02:09:32 PM
Chris Matthews is just as insane as Olbermann is.  Matthew's pink slip is also forthcoming, I'm sure.  His rants may not be as bombastic and over-the-top as Olbermann's, but Matthews is still just as incendiary and radically left wing.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 07, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
Quote(CNN) - Prime-time host Keith   Olbermann, who was suspended for violating the ethics policy of his   employer, will be back on air Tuesday night, the president of MSNBC said   Sunday.
Olbermann was suspended Friday after a news report by Politico   revealed he had donated to three Democrats seeking federal office.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/07/olbermann.reinstatement/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/07/olbermann.reinstatement/index.html)

Presumed chain of events....

FRIDAY = Olber-less-than-a-man suspended

SATURDAY = Leftist frenzy. Other MSNBC on-air personnel threaten on-air sympathy strike.

SUNDAY = Fearing the network would go under if it lost even one of its few advertisers, MSNBC caves.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: walkstall on November 07, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
Quote from: quiller on November 07, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/07/olbermann.reinstatement/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/07/olbermann.reinstatement/index.html)

Presumed chain of events....

FRIDAY = Olber-less-than-a-man suspended

SATURDAY = Leftist frenzy. Other MSNBC on-air personnel threaten on-air sympathy strike.

SUNDAY = Fearing the network would go under if it lost even one of its few advertisers, MSNBC caves.

ROTFLMAF
MSNBC's chief executive Phil Griffin said late Sunday that after several days of deliberation, he had determined that two days off the air was "an appropriate punishment for his violation of our policy."

Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: AmericanFlyer on November 08, 2010, 04:40:42 AM
Actual chain of events:

Friday:  Olbermann suspended.  Rachel Maddow has unprotected "sympathy sex" with Olbermann in the janitor's closet at 30 Rock.

Saturday:  Chris Matthews gives Olbermann sympathy "man sex" and gets tingles up and down his legs.

Sunday:  After undergoing a battery of electro-shock treatments, Olbermann is declared fit and ready to resume his "duties" as the world's most insane and incendiary network-sponsored politicial cockroach.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2010, 07:21:09 AM
So what is it he actually did that others hadn't?
The MSM is 90% liberal, pays an exorbitant amount towards socialist wannabes, carries their water all year long.
What did olberman do that was so different?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: walkstall on November 08, 2010, 07:35:29 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2010, 07:21:09 AM
So what is it he actually did that others hadn't?
The MSM is 90% liberal, pays an exorbitant amount towards socialist wannabes, carries their water all year long.
What did olberman do that was so different?


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Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Solar on November 08, 2010, 07:40:17 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 08, 2010, 07:35:29 AM

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That pretty much says it all, they are looking for a reason they lost so badly during the mid terms, that they're turning on each other.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: quiller on November 05, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
VIDEO = http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks (http://vodpod.com/watch/2908316-jon-stewart-mocks-keith-olbermann-over-scott-brown-attacks)

So the Liberals do really eat their own.....hmmmm
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 09, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 08:52:17 AM
So the Liberals do really eat their own.....hmmmm

Olbermann commands a pitiful 1.1 share for his time slot. Comcast will probably wipe the whole crew out and restart from scratch. MSNBC itself tried numerous formats before succumbing to Howard Beale TV. Any new direction, minus Olbermann, would definitely be an improvement.

Keith Olbermann - A Memorial Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVJTaRw6aQ#ws)
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: quiller on November 09, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
Olbermann commands a pitiful 1.1 share for his time slot. Comcast will probably wipe the whole crew out and restart from scratch. MSNBC itself tried numerous formats before succumbing to Howard Beale TV. Any new direction, minus Olbermann, would definitely be an improvement.

Keith Olbermann - A Memorial Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVJTaRw6aQ#ws)

Since the people have spoken and shown the extreme left to be unfavorable, maybe they will reconsider their own position.

If Olbermann wasn't so extreme in general, I don't think MSNBC would have cared if he had made political contributions. It's their ratings that made them take actions.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 09, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
Since the people have spoken and shown the extreme left to be unfavorable, maybe they will reconsider their own position.

If Olbermann wasn't so extreme in general, I don't think MSNBC would have cared if he had made political contributions. It's their ratings that made them take actions.

With Zucker gone, that path is now much-better-defined --- at least for Keithie-poo. His sports gig went bust, and the Howard Beale comparisons were beginning to seriously take hold in the trade pubs and fan outlets. In his program tonight, he is expected to apologize to his viewers, but not to MSNBC.

Perhaps he'll wear a wet raincoat and scream, "I am here to testify!"
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: quiller on November 09, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
With Zucker gone, that path is now much-better-defined --- at least for Keithie-poo. His sports gig went bust, and the Howard Beale comparisons were beginning to seriously take hold in the trade pubs and fan outlets. In his program tonight, he is expected to apologize to his viewers, but not to MSNBC.

Perhaps he'll wear a wet raincoat and scream, "I am here to testify!"

Question to self......do I want to watch the man grovel for his job......................Nah
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 09, 2010, 02:35:07 PM
Dan Rather fully expected to get serious offers after CBS fired him. Can't help thinking of that, and how Geraldo Rivera bounced back after being tossed out of a country by the U.S. military, after drawing troop positions on-camera.

I mean, look how long Saturday Night Embalmed has lasted. TV is a strange world.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: quiller on November 09, 2010, 02:35:07 PM
Dan Rather fully expected to get serious offers after CBS fired him. Can't help thinking of that, and how Geraldo Rivera bounced back after being tossed out of a country by the U.S. military, after drawing troop positions on-camera.

I mean, look how long Saturday Night Embalmed has lasted. TV is a strange world.

They say he's been suspended indefinitely....what's the difference between that and fired?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Solars Toy on November 09, 2010, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:36:29 PM
They say he's been suspended indefinitely....what's the difference between that and fired?

With pay???
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: quiller on November 09, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:36:29 PM
They say he's been suspended indefinitely....what's the difference between that and fired?

He returns tonight at the usual bottom-rated time slot. It lasted only two work days.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on November 09, 2010, 02:38:58 PM
With pay???

My understanding is he's not being paid.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann suspended 'indefinitely' for campaign contributions
Post by: Solars Toy on November 09, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Book_Worm on November 09, 2010, 02:39:41 PM
My understanding is he's not being paid.

Then I see no difference except that suspended isn't officially off the books...hmmmm.