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Title: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: je_freedom on July 14, 2015, 08:22:08 AM
John Kasich is planning to make his official announcement one week from today.  Since we need to vet all of our candidates, here's some info that you're not likely to find outside Ohio.

   Kasich's Record in Ohio

Some people around the country are enamored with the idea of Ohio Governor John Kasich running for President.  Conservatives in Ohio are not so fond of him.  Yes, he balanced the budget and persuaded some big-time business people to locate operations in Ohio, but there's another side to him, as well.


Kasich tried to rein in the public sector unions, as Scott Walker did in Wisconsin.  The difference is, Kasich failed, where Walker succeeded.  Like Walker, Kasich did it through legislation (Senate Bill 5).  In Ohio, the unions circulated petitions and got an issue on the ballot (Issue 2) to repeal SB 5.  There was much advertising on TV from both sides.  The unions won the election.  The Republicans were sent some great material to use in ads, but instead ran lame ads that really didn't connect with voters.  To see the material, visit "Are they TRYING to lose?" at:  http://www.cpnlive.com/forum/post/1781689   


Then there's the Medicaid expansion.  John "Obamacare" Kasich has conceded that Obamacare will never be defeated, and so he expanded Medicaid in accordance with it.  The worst part is, he did it ILLEGALLY!  The Ohio House and Senate both passed legislation FORBIDDING the expansion of Medicaid.  Then the "Controlling Board" (whose job is to reconcile House and Senate bills) put in the Medicaid expansion.  (The Board is composed partly of people appointed by the Governor.)  Kasich then signed the corrupted bill into law.  Outraged citizens filed suit, because Ohio law requires that the Controlling Board follow the intent of the legislature.  The lawsuit was fast tracked.  In less than one month, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that this obviously illegal act was legal.

Budget forecasts show the cost of Kasich's Medicaid expansion exploding after 2018 - after Kasich will be out of office.  So much for "fiscal responsibility."


Kasich is also trying to increase the petroleum extraction tax, right now!  This action would drive the fledgling fracking industry to other states.  At least wait until AFTER the industry has become well established!  And then make the tax increases modest.


Kasich is also promoting Common Core in Ohio.  It was slipped through the legislature on the last day of its session a few years ago.  The "Common Core" text was added to the bill after the legislators thought they knew what they were going to be voting for.  They (and we) were defrauded.


In 1994, U.S. Congressman John Kasich voted FOR Bill Clinton's "assault weapons ban."  In contrast, Democrat Governor Ted Strickland signed Ohio's "castle law" in 2010.  (Castle law: you may assume that the fact that someone is invading your home means he is a threat to your life, and so shooting the intruder just because he is an intruder is self defense.)  For these reasons, the National Rifle Association endorsed the Democrat Ted Strickland over Republican John Kasich for Governor in the 2010 election!


Some people claim that Kasich's big margin of victory for re-election in 2014 shows that he is a strong candidate.  No, the Democrats didn't try to win!  In a state with 6,000,000 voters, the Democratic Party spent only $200,000 on their candidate for Governor!  When the Dems have a Governor in office who is already giving your party everything they want, why would they bother trying to oust him?

Some people speculate that John Kasich is angling to be the pick for Vice President.  Well, I know a few people who know Kasich personally.  They all say very emphatically that "John Kasich NEVER plays second fiddle to ANYONE!"  Plus, John Kasich is well known in Congress for being very aggressive.  Reports the Dayton Daily News:

. . . . . . . But when Kasich headed the Budget Committee, Gingrich occasionally had to talk the passionate lawmaker down.

. . . . . . . "The number one thing I tried to get across to John was in a legislative body you want to unlock people, you don't want to run them over," he said.

. . . . . . . Kasich would "remember it for three or four days – then you'd have to remind him," Gingrich said.


Also, immediately after Kasich became Governor, he led a huge battle to oust the state Republican Central Committee chairman Kevin DeWine, and to purge the committee of everyone less than completely subservient to Kasich.  (The Columbus Dispatch has several articles covering all this.)  So, no, Kasich is NOT running for Vice President! 


The Clintons are not the only ones collecting huge money for giving speeches.  The Ohio State University paid Governor Kasich $400,000 to give a series of speeches at the university.  (With universities paying such huge amounts to "guest speakers," it it any wonder that "education" has become so expensive?  A significant chunk of that expense is spent making political payoffs to privileged members of the ruling clique!)


So yes, Kasich did balance the budget, but he also put in place a time bomb (Medicaid expansion) that will explode the budget after he leaves office.  And yes, he did persuade business big shots to locate facilities in Ohio, but how hard is it to persuade someone to locate a distribution facility within a one day drive of two thirds of the country's population?

Overall, John Kasich is a poor imitation of Scott Walker.  So why pick a poor imitation when you can have the real thing?


P. S. -- And now Walker is giving us cause for concern:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/walker-voiced-support-for-obamatrade/

Ted Cruz was champion of the Harvard debate team.  Can you imagine Hillary trying to compete with him?  It would be like when Dick Cheney wiped the floor with John Edwards in 2004.  Thing is, Democrat voters are too stupid to understand when their guy has been humiliated, even when it's that obvious!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 14, 2015, 10:30:43 AM
Thanks je...  excellent post!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: daidalos on July 14, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
In Ohio, when given the choice between doing what is right, or abusing the citizen's, Ohio will choose the latter every time.

Especially under this admin.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: je_freedom on July 20, 2015, 07:30:35 AM
John Kasich will be making his official announcement tomorrow, so it's time to provide more information about his record as Governor.


Watchdog.org reports:

After just 18 months, Ohio Gov. John Kasich's Obamacare expansion has cost federal taxpayers more than $4 billion.

Kasich underestimated the cost of the first 18 months of his Obamacare expansion by roughly $1.5 billion. Enrollment was almost 600,000 at the end of June, compared to Kasich's projection of 366,000.

Ohio's Obamacare expansion has cost far more than expected because enrollment and per-member costs have both rocketed past expectations.

Benefit costs have exceeded $325 million each of the past three months, and $300 million for seven months straight — setting a course for a total cost of $5 billion before the end of the year.


The rest of the story is at:  http://watchdog.org/228330/ohio-obamacare-expansion-4billion/

That page also has links to the other 14 parts of the series, for those who want to really wonk out on the subject!

Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Dori on July 20, 2015, 07:43:07 AM
I don't care for him, and won't be paying any attention to him.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 20, 2015, 08:12:00 AM
Quote from: Dori on July 20, 2015, 07:43:07 AM
I don't care for him, and won't be paying any attention to him.

Me either!  I think he has a forked tongue and tunnel vision.   :scared:
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 20, 2015, 08:22:37 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 08:12:00 AM
Me either!  I think he has a forked tongue and tunnel vision.   :scared:

The reason that Kasich didn't rein-in public-sector unions/collective-bargaining had to do with the ballot's language, intentionally confusing LIV's...

Yes, I vote NO
No, I vote YES

Kasich's people hafta take the blame for not rephrasing the ballot's wording.

Other than that, Kasich's acceptable but his timing is probably wrong.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Dori on July 20, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
Kasich is pro-common core and pro-amnesty. 

I have him below Bush, and he's pretty far down my list.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: daidalos on July 20, 2015, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: Dori on July 20, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
Kasich is pro-common core and pro-amnesty. 

I have him below Bush, and he's pretty far down my list.

Neither Kasich, nor Boner are accurately, and truthfully representing the constituency of the people of the great State Of Ohio.

When the people of Ohio, are telling the rest of the nation, "hey don't elect this guy", it should tell folks something.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: supsalemgr on July 20, 2015, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 08:12:00 AM
Me either!  I think he has a forked tongue and tunnel vision.   :scared:

He is a RINO. Dismissed.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: daidalos on July 21, 2015, 03:05:14 AM
Call them what they are.

Liberals, in disguise, lying to the people to garner some votes, claiming to be something which they are not.

RINO, is too good, too nice, a term for these liars.

So I say call em what they really are. Lying liberals, who excel at one thing in life.

Being a professional liar.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 21, 2015, 08:16:33 AM
He's streaming right now, but I don't have time to listen or care.  I doubt he had time to work-in the latest Planned Parenthood atrocity, which is the news of the day.  And I doubt he'll renounce common-core.  Ohio just rejected marijuana-legalization being put on the State-ballot, so he may trumpet that.  The trouble with entering the Presidential-race so late, it over-inflates the tone of the announcement-speech.

Look at Walker...  his speech is virtually forgotten.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 21, 2015, 08:19:44 AM
Kasich is a temporary bump in the campaign road.  Next week no one will mention him!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: je_freedom on July 21, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
I just listened to John Kasich make his speech announcing his candidacy for President.  I would choose him over any Democrat (or Jeb!), but I'd still rather have Ted Cruz or Scott Walker or Don Trump.

His speech started with a lot of talk about 51 year old guys whose job just vanished, soldiers who survived Iraq just to be gunned down in Tennessee, and stuff like that.  Then he gave an overview of his life and career.  He worked with Ronald Reagan as campaign staff, and later as a Congressman.  He recalled each of his elections to new office, how the "experts" said it couldn't be done, and then he did it.  (The most prominent theme of the speech was overcoming impossible odds.) 

He said that he has John Sununu on his campaign team, that he wouldn't have run without Sununu on board.

It's still a long way to the first primary.  My forecast is that he'll stay in through the first few primaries, rack up mediocre numbers, and drop out.  Who might he endorse at that point?  Candidates NEVER make any indication of that ahead of time!  They always expect to win.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 21, 2015, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on July 21, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
I just listened to John Kasich make his speech announcing his candidacy for President.  I would choose him over any Democrat (or Jeb!), but I'd still rather have Ted Cruz or Scott Walker or Don Trump.

His speech started with a lot of talk about 51 year old guys whose job just vanished, soldiers who survived Iraq just to be gunned down in Tennessee, and stuff like that.  Then he gave an overview of his life and career.  He worked with Ronald Reagan as campaign staff, and later as a Congressman.  He recalled each of his elections to new office, how the "experts" said it couldn't be done, and then he did it.  (The most prominent theme of the speech was overcoming impossible odds.) 

He said that he has John Sununu on his campaign team, that he wouldn't have run without Sununu on board.

It's still a long way to the first primary.  My forecast is that he'll stay in through the first few primaries, rack up mediocre numbers, and drop out.  Who might he endorse at that point?  Candidates NEVER make any indication of that ahead of time!  They always expect to win.

I listened to his speech also..... and was unimpressed.

The only upside to this is that he will siphon votes from other RINOs.

BUT, Trump is siphoning votes from our conservatives.  Not good!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 21, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
Everyone makes a big deal out of Trump's hair..... and rightly so.

But Kasich's hair is in serious need of a style!  It always looks like he just rolled out of bed.  He must have 115 cowlicks.   :ohmy:

It certainly isn't a priority for him...... no vanity there!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 08:19:44 AM
Kasich is a temporary bump in the campaign road.  Next week no one will mention him!
Not so sure about that! Before we get to last man standing it will get down to the top 3-4. I would expect to see one or two RINO's there! Kasich could out preform Bush! Krusty is dying as is huckleberry!  Kasich has a good rap but he sure has the wrong message but on the RINO side he may be the one to beat!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: quiller on July 22, 2015, 05:09:06 AM
Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 03:37:47 PM
Not so sure about that! Before we get to last man standing it will get down to the top 3-4. I would expect to see one or two RINO's there! Kasich could out preform Bush! Krusty is dying as is huckleberry!  Kasich has a good rap but he sure has the wrong message but on the RINO side he may be the one to beat!
Over at HotAir.com, political blogger Allahpundit flatly states Kasich will be Bush's VP running-mate, because Bush desperately needs both Florida and Ohio. I agree. This one's worth a close read.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/21/video-meet-jeb-bushs-future-running-mate-america/
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 22, 2015, 05:12:19 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2015, 05:09:06 AM
Over at PJ Media, political blogger Allahpundit flatly states Kasich will be Bush's VP running-mate, because Bush desperately needs both Florida and Ohio. I agree. This one's worth a close read.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/21/video-meet-jeb-bushs-future-running-mate-america/

Now that is a ticket I could not support! 
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2015, 05:26:15 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2015, 05:09:06 AM
Over at HotAir.com, political blogger Allahpundit flatly states Kasich will be Bush's VP running-mate, because Bush desperately needs both Florida and Ohio. I agree. This one's worth a close read.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/21/video-meet-jeb-bushs-future-running-mate-america/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wow, three more votes.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: quiller on July 22, 2015, 05:35:23 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2015, 05:26:15 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wow, three more votes.
Did you seriously expect the GOP to name a conservative? Really?

The RINOs will seize the convention and Bush will get the nod. Bringing fellow RINO Kasich onto the ticket would arguably cement Ohio for the GOP just as name-recognition alone for Bush would sway a whole bunch of first-time voters unable to stomach what Dems have done to us.

I'm not saying I like it or support it. My vote won't be among that three, but I do think the GOP can win with it against Hillary. First they have to ride out the puppy love over Trump. Once he does implode, things can get serious again.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 22, 2015, 05:41:54 AM
Saw Kasich interviewed on Hannity last night....he sounded RINO-ish on some of the issues and SHAMNESTY like on Immigration with some wimpy guest worker program etc. He also doesn't support this proposed law about imprisoning returning illegal alien felons previously deported...neither does Rand Paul....neither would get my vote on that alone.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2015, 06:08:05 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2015, 05:35:23 AM
Did you seriously expect the GOP to name a conservative? Really?

The RINOs will seize the convention and Bush will get the nod. Bringing fellow RINO Kasich onto the ticket would arguably cement Ohio for the GOP just as name-recognition alone for Bush would sway a whole bunch of first-time voters unable to stomach what Dems have done to us.

I'm not saying I like it or support it. My vote won't be among that three, but I do think the GOP can win with it against Hillary. First they have to ride out the puppy love over Trump. Once he does implode, things can get serious again.
Hah...The RINO hasn't a prayer. No, I'm more surprised that they're even announcing the shotgun wedding, knowing full well the nation is sick of their incestual ways with the marxist party.
The RINO  really needs to step back and reassess where they stand in this country, because come 2016, they, like the Dim party are about to get stomped.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 22, 2015, 06:37:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2015, 06:08:05 AM
Hah...The RINO hasn't a prayer. No, I'm more surprised that they're even announcing the shotgun wedding, knowing full well the nation is sick of their incestual ways with the marxist party.
The RINO  really needs to step back and reassess where they stand in this country, because come 2016, they, like the Dim party are about to get stomped.

THAT is the problem.  By announcing their intentions about Jeb and Kasich they are actually driving more voters into the arms of Trump.  aaarrgghhh!!!

People are racing to the exit and Trump has them like a deer in the headlights!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2015, 06:52:37 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 22, 2015, 06:37:55 AM
THAT is the problem.  By announcing their intentions about Jeb and Kasich they are actually driving more voters into the arms of Trump.  aaarrgghhh!!!

People are racing to the exit and Trump has them like a deer in the headlights!
Don't fall for the media hype over Trump. The Leftist Media have so much dirt on him.
They are playing an incredible game of chess, they pump him up and create the image that everyone would vote trump if the election were held today, when the truth is, people are backing his message, not the man, they are happy to show solidarity to someone willing to say what we all think, but that will never translate into votes.

What it is, is a distraction from the failures of the Marxist, all the damage he is doing is going unnoticed, because the LSM is using Trump as a distraction, as well as keeping the focus off the GOP circus called "Sanctuary City Crisis", the media hates that the GOP out maneuvered them with this little ploy..

No, Trump is the flavor of the month, so to speak, the LSM will eventually use trump for one big cover up when the time is right, when the Marxist is headed for serious rough water, they'll collectively unload on the Donald, officially ending another of his flamboyant attempts at notoriety.

Voters are a funny lot, but the base is solidly consistent. :wink:
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: quiller on July 22, 2015, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2015, 06:08:05 AM
Hah...The RINO hasn't a prayer. No, I'm more surprised that they're even announcing the shotgun wedding, knowing full well the nation is sick of their incestual ways with the marxist party.
The RINO  really needs to step back and reassess where they stand in this country, because come 2016, they, like the Dim party are about to get stomped.

You can't deny that the Tea Party has terrorized the Establishment. But don't expect that sorry gaggle of surrender-artists to endorse any TP candidate. Boehner himself fears getting bounced, so it's even more likely he'd double down against the TP instead of accepting blame for his own actions. As long as the GOP wins the RINOs and so-called conservative-LIVs will be deliriously happy. The rest of us? (*shrugs*) 
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2015, 09:23:05 AM
You can't deny that the Tea Party has terrorized the Establishment. But don't expect that sorry gaggle of surrender-artists to endorse any TP candidate. Boehner himself fears getting bounced, so it's even more likely he'd double down against the TP instead of accepting blame for his own actions. As long as the GOP wins the RINOs and so-called conservative-LIVs will be deliriously happy. The rest of us? (*shrugs*) 
Times, they are a changing my friend.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/az-gop-refuses-to-back-mccain-campaign-for-or-endorse-the-senator/
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: quiller on July 22, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
Times, they are a changing my friend.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/az-gop-refuses-to-back-mccain-campaign-for-or-endorse-the-senator/
I saw it. The times haven't changed on how pols undergo political rehab and regain their party's endorsements. If he doesn't care to play? His medical issues will suddenly gain importance, and with it that stirring desire to spend more time banging the beer baroness with his family.....

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.fotki.com%2F1_p%2Csfwkttgwwfdttddxbqfqsbrwqdbw%2Cvi%2Frsqkdgkddxfbrrbrfbd%2F1%2F1595431%2F9682544%2Fcartoon20080715vi-vi.gif&hash=27f30e6ed9ce1da5d0ff018df8e474944af1cae1)
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 22, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
The Repubs may have a 'brokered convention'.  It's happened before.  In today's connected-age, every convention-floor conversation between 5-or-more people will be treated as 'developing' news.  RINO-ism will be easy to discern.  If one of them begins to emerge, so will a running-theme of appeasement.  If a true Conservative emerges, there's no need of a theme... 
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: MACMan on July 22, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 22, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
The Repubs may have a 'brokered convention'.  It's happened before.  In today's connected-age, every convention-floor conversation between 5-or-more people will be treated as 'developing' news.  RINO-ism will be easy to discern.  If one of them begins to emerge, so will a running-theme of appeasement.  If a true Conservative emerges, there's no need of a theme...

I look for the GOP to have another 'scripted' convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 23, 2015, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: MACMan on July 22, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
I look for the GOP to have another 'scripted' convention.

I think the bridgework for a RINO-scripted convention is already being shattered right now.  Even if Trump wasn't a candidate, Bush and Rubio would still be struggling like hell to form a Boehner bond, or platform.

In '76 it was hard to tell if Ford was the last-minute groom.  By 'last minute', I mean not even in anybody's conversation at the '72 convention.  I was expecting VP Nellie... Rockefeller.  Ford was just filling-in.  I couldn't believe he announced he was running.  He never did anything in Congress to the level of say, Paul Ryan today.  I think Reagan screwed-up by announcing an ultra-moderate as his potential VP...  I had to look-up the spelling:  Schweiker, of Pennsylvania.

Plus, Ed Meese was sort of a floor-bully, trying to force a rule-change to make Ford choose a running-mate before Jesse Helms was ready to present one...  Bob Dole.  I'm not sure Reagan and Helms ever did get along.  The California-posse... after another Californian. 

Those were my impressions. 
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: je_freedom on July 30, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
Who you hire reveals who you are.

Kasich said in his speech announcing his candidacy that he's proud to have John Sununu on his team, and that he would have decided to not run if he didn't have Sununu.

So, what kind of person is John Sununu?  Here are two articles, one about him, and one by him:

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2014/06/10/cantorburied-time-for-papa-smurf-to-let-go/

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/25/time-let-tea-party-puppy-love/OgnoLwKyKMK4Vuzu2T5wDP/story.html

Few articles ever written will inspire your disgust as much as this insult from John Sununu.  He characterizes Tea Partiers as teenage lovers who need to grow up and accept the superiority of Establishment corruption.  He says that "the Tea Party's genesis wasn't so much anti-establishment as it was anti-Obama" while hoping we ignore the fact that the Republican Establishment in Congress voted for much of Obama's agenda! 


Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 30, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on July 30, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
Who you hire reveals who you are.

Kasich said in his speech announcing his candidacy that he's proud to have John Sununu on his team, and that he would have decided to not run if he didn't have Sununu.

So, what kind of person is John Sununu?  Here are two articles, one about him, and one by him:

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2014/06/10/cantorburied-time-for-papa-smurf-to-let-go/

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/25/time-let-tea-party-puppy-love/OgnoLwKyKMK4Vuzu2T5wDP/story.html

Few articles ever written will inspire your disgust as much as this insult from John Sununu.  He characterizes Tea Partiers as teenage lovers who need to grow up and accept the superiority of Establishment corruption.  He says that "the Tea Party's genesis wasn't so much anti-establishment as it was anti-Obama" while hoping we ignore the fact that the Republican Establishment in Congress voted for much of Obama's agenda!

I never knew how to classify Sununu...  He caused a bit of a stink here:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/i-quit!/

meddling in the Republican Convention
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 30, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
I never knew how to classify Sununu...  He caused a bit of a stink here:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/i-quit!/

meddling in the Republican Convention
I thought it odd that Kasich would bring in an old RINO yo run his campaign.
I mean think about it, Kasich is either truly stupid and out of touch as to the current hatred of the Establishment, or he hopes to suck some money from the party.

I just don't know, it makes no sense he'd come out of the gate with both leftist feet tied together.

On another note. I saw this post by one of the former idiots of the forum, claiming the Marxist wasn't out to destroy the country we all love.
I wonder when reality finally hit the idiot? :lol:

Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 31, 2015, 04:52:15 AM
I don't understand how Kasich has already risen to the top ten candidates!

Fox polls have him tied with Cruz at 6%.... #9 & 10.

This is the poll that determines "which" debate you are in.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: supsalemgr on July 31, 2015, 05:26:04 AM
Quote from: kroz on July 31, 2015, 04:52:15 AM
I don't understand how Kasich has already risen to the top ten candidates!

Fox polls have him tied with Cruz at 6%.... #9 & 10.

This is the poll that determines "which" debate you are in.

He has a lot of name recognition. Also, his resume' is fairly impressive. He is a true fiscal conservative. on other issues he is a RINO.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on July 31, 2015, 05:31:42 AM
With so many Governors and ex-Governors in the race..... Christie cannot climb into the top ten.  His State is NOT so impressive!!
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kit saginaw on July 31, 2015, 05:49:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
I thought it odd that Kasich would bring in an old RINO yo run his campaign.
I mean think about it, Kasich is either truly stupid and out of touch as to the current hatred of the Establishment, or he hopes to suck some money from the party.

I just don't know, it makes no sense he'd come out of the gate with both leftist feet tied together.

On another note. I saw this post by one of the former idiots of the forum, claiming the Marxist wasn't out to destroy the country we all love.
I wonder when reality finally hit the idiot? :lol:

Damn, I was responding to you last night and the site flummox'd out.

Basically saying Kasich and Sununu are still living in the 90's.  Then I wove New England conservatism into a critique of Sununu, as a sort of RINO's on film summarization/summation...  From the beginning he's been anti-TEA, yamming from the comfort of a studio-setting.  I agree with his anti-lib core, but doesn't he ever appear live anymore?
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2015, 06:13:34 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on July 31, 2015, 05:49:09 AM
Damn, I was responding to you last night and the site flummox'd out.

Basically saying Kasich and Sununu are still living in the 90's.  Then I wove New England conservatism into a critique of Sununu, as a sort of RINO's on film summarization/summation...  From the beginning he's been anti-TEA, yamming from the comfort of a studio-setting.  I agree with his anti-lib core, but doesn't he ever appear live anymore?
Yeah, it was probably another attempted attack last night, a Denial of Service.
Chinese or Russians helping the Marxist Dims take down their enemy..
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: je_freedom on January 05, 2016, 07:53:27 PM
Mark Belling (filling in for Rush Limbaugh Monday December 28) said of Kasich that: 

It was a really bad deal for Ohio
when Kasich accepted federal money to expand Medicaid.
The Obamacare numbers are not adding up.  There will be a huge deficit.
The feds will have to cut their budget.  They'll have to cut funding to states.
Ohio will have to pick up the slack.
But hey, it'll be after Kasich leaves office.  It'll be somebody else's problem.
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 05, 2016, 10:29:51 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Kasich's record in Ohio
Post by: kroz on January 06, 2016, 07:51:43 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on January 05, 2016, 07:53:27 PM
Mark Belling (filling in for Rush Limbaugh Monday December 28) said of Kasich that: 

It was a really bad deal for Ohio
when Kasich accepted federal money to expand Medicaid.
The Obamacare numbers are not adding up.  There will be a huge deficit.
The feds will have to cut their budget.  They'll have to cut funding to states.
Ohio will have to pick up the slack.
But hey, it'll be after Kasich leaves office.  It'll be somebody else's problem.

If  Kasich ever became a real blip on the radar screen, this could be easily pointed out by his opponents.

But that is only the tip of the iceberg on Kasich's RINO credentials IMHO.