Quote from: steve folkster on May 14, 2015, 09:54:46 AM
Would you not vote for a candidate if you agreed with them on everything accept abortion?

Just curious.

Would you vote for a candidate if you agreed with them on everything except there stand on legalizing murder. After all murder wasn't and isn't always a crime in some places. You simply have to reimburse their family for the lost value of their labor - the "blood price".

Just curious.

Quote from: steve folkster on May 14, 2015, 09:54:46 AM
Would you not vote for a candidate if you agreed with them on everything accept abortion?

Just curious.

Why would anyone vote for someone who supports killing babies?  That's an odd question.

Quote from: taxed on May 15, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
Why would anyone vote for someone who supports killing babies?  That's an odd question.

It's what liberals call entrapment!

Quote from: quiller on May 14, 2015, 08:53:42 AM

I hate to say this, but I saw Sarah Palin in some debates, and I was not convinced she had been able to cope good enough. Just my opinion.

Quote from: kroz on May 14, 2015, 09:29:08 AM
Speaking as a woman.... I will say this is total insanity!

Does it really take a woman to know how to deal with another woman?  Really??

Give me a break!!!!

There is no doubt that Condolezza is a brilliant woman.  She has a near photographic memory also!

However, she is PRO ABORTION!  Have we forgotten this?

We are following the lemmings off the cliff if we start talking in terms of genitalia and skin tones.

Let's get back to the reality of conservative thinking and actions!  That is what will restore this Nation to greatness!  Nothing else!!!

I was not talking my point of view, but I was talking the case Democrats will make. And it will be: "Let's have a woman president for the first time, that would be so cool and progressive!" And in the presidential debate, they will make a "man against woman" case, where a woman has more chances to win hearts of majority.

I saw Condoleezza's Facebook profile, and she looked like a devoted Christian to me. I didn't know she was pro abortion.

I would really hate to see Hillary wins, but since I am not a US citizen, I can only give you my moral support.

Quote from: milos on May 16, 2015, 01:44:26 AM
I hate to say this, but I saw Sarah Palin in some debates, and I was not convinced she had been able to cope good enough. Just my opinion.

I was not talking my point of view, but I was talking the case Democrats will make. And it will be: "Let's have a woman president for the first time, that would be so cool and progressive!" And in the presidential debate, they will make a "man against woman" case, where a woman has more chances to win hearts of majority.

I saw Condoleezza's Facebook profile, and she looked like a devoted Christian to me. I didn't know she was pro abortion.

I would really hate to see Hillary wins, but since I am not a US citizen, I can only give you my moral support.

Rest easy. Hillary will not win. If the GOP does not screw it up she will self destruct. Humpty Dumpty is a good analogy of Hillary.

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 16, 2015, 04:17:53 AM
Rest easy. Hillary will not win. If the GOP does not screw it up she will self destruct. Humpty Dumpty is a good analogy of Hillary.

Therein lies the age-old problem. Republicans usually do find a way to screw it up. "Read my lips," for example. This cycle, it's still too early to get too excited. Goudy hasn't nailed down more than one diva's-appearance from Shrill over Benghazi, so there's no real mileage to be had --- yet --- from that quarter. Expect a stray sex scandal or two but probably nothing as grotesque as John Edwards (or Wilbur Mills). If Snowden leaks Huma Habedin's e-mails to Hillary, that whole dynamic could change. 

Quote from: quiller on May 16, 2015, 04:35:07 AM
Therein lies the age-old problem. Republicans usually do find a way to screw it up. "Read my lips," for example. This cycle, it's still too early to get too excited. Goudy hasn't nailed down more than one diva's-appearance from Shrill over Benghazi, so there's no real mileage to be had --- yet --- from that quarter. Expect a stray sex scandal or two but probably nothing as grotesque as John Edwards (or Wilbur Mills). If Snowden leaks Huma Habedin's e-mails to Hillary, that whole dynamic could change. 

True, but Team Carpetbag tried to rush hc's committee-appearance down Gowdy's throat a few months ago, before the server-scandal broke (not that they knew it would break). 

as for Wilbur;



What guy wouldn't want her in their Tidal Basin ??!

Quote from: quiller on May 16, 2015, 04:35:07 AM
Therein lies the age-old problem. Republicans usually do find a way to screw it up. "Read my lips," for example. This cycle, it's still too early to get too excited. Goudy hasn't nailed down more than one diva's-appearance from Shrill over Benghazi, so there's no real mileage to be had --- yet --- from that quarter. Expect a stray sex scandal or two but probably nothing as grotesque as John Edwards (or Wilbur Mills). If Snowden leaks Huma Habedin's e-mails to Hillary, that whole dynamic could change. 

What??  You're not excited??   

We've gotta do something about that!!

Maybe we need to play you some Elvis music and see what happens!!   

Quote from: kroz on May 16, 2015, 05:14:46 AM
What??  You're not excited??   

We've gotta do something about that!!

Maybe we need to play you some Elvis music and see what happens!!   

I am so sanguine I even forgot my thesaurus to answer this. The usual early-birds and Young Turks are milling about and the brokered convention is still a ways away. I expect the full-fledged bloodletting and primal screaming to take place in mid to late summer.

Quote from: kit saginaw on May 16, 2015, 05:04:25 AM
True, but Team Carpetbag tried to rush hc's committee-appearance down Gowdy's throat a few months ago, before the server-scandal broke (not that they knew it would break). 

as for Wilbur;



What guy wouldn't want her in their Tidal Basin ??!

Gart Hart's yacht and that babe as first mate, who needs Captain Stubing and the Love Barge?

Don't care much for Libertarians in general, always stating they are pro abortion like it gives them moral superiority, makes me want to puke



They are just one small step away from being libertines.

I still vote for a party that is pro abortion, but not because they are pro abortion but because they are the last chance to avoid civil war. It is a tragic consequence of Europe losing it's faith and Christian Union with each other and God. I believe we will all pay for it and ultimately voting for or against abortion or parties in general doesn't matter as long as the culture doesn't embrace God.

Quote from: Mountainshield on May 16, 2015, 06:04:50 AM
Don't care much for Libertarians in general, always stating they are pro abortion like it gives them moral superiority, makes me want to puke



They are just one small step away from being libertines.

I still vote for a party that is pro abortion, but not because they are pro abortion but because they are the last chance to avoid civil war. It is a tragic consequence of Europe losing it's faith and Christian Union with each other and God. I believe we will all pay for it and ultimately voting for or against abortion or parties in general doesn't matter as long as the culture doesn't embrace God.

This is where the U.S. is headed if we keep compromising at the polls! 

Mountainshield...... when did your Country slip away from it's moral compass?  Were the voters asleep at the wheel or just desirous of moral decadence? 

It is not only liberal/progressivism that leads us away from God..... it is also the RINOs.  We would be wise to cling to what fragment of moral excellence still exists in our Nation.   This is a matter of life and death in more ways than just abortion.

Any society permitting the willful premeditated murder of innocent children would have no compunction whatsoever against authorizing assisted suicide for the elderly, infirm, and, as is now the case in Europe, those simply wanting their own deaths.

Europe forgot in 70 years what they should have learned from the Third Reich policies which also cleared out habitual criminals, gypsies, the insane and others. Jews of course were their own special category.

We are headed for a society in which many now say will be overwhelmingly robotic in nature at the job market, Social Security payouts the federales steal for other uses, and the single largest increase in American history for the babies born after a war, now trying to retire on funds they're likely to never see if liberals keep moving the goalposts.

We abandoned our elderly to nursing homes good, bad or indifferent. We let teachers be our babysitters and the kids deserve the propaganda they get if the parent isn't following what the kids are actually learning. Good. We need uneducated manual labor for carrying stuff when the robots go down for maintenance. Start by programming them to carry school administrators out of their buildings for a close chat with a bucket of roofing tar and some pillow feathers.

Quote from: quiller on May 16, 2015, 07:07:08 AM
Any society permitting the willful premeditated murder of innocent children would have no compunction whatsoever against authorizing assisted suicide for the elderly, infirm, and, as is now the case in Europe, those simply wanting their own deaths.

Europe forgot in 70 years what they should have learned from the Third Reich policies which also cleared out habitual criminals, gypsies, the insane and others. Jews of course were their own special category.

We are headed for a society in which many now say will be overwhelmingly robotic in nature at the job market, Social Security payouts the federales steal for other uses, and the single largest increase in American history for the babies born after a war, now trying to retire on funds they're likely to never see if liberals keep moving the goalposts.

We abandoned our elderly to nursing homes good, bad or indifferent. We let teachers be our babysitters and the kids deserve the propaganda they get if the parent isn't following what the kids are actually learning. Good. We need uneducated manual labor for carrying stuff when the robots go down for maintenance. Start by programming them to carry school administrators out of their buildings for a close chat with a bucket of roofing tar and some pillow feathers.

That is exactly the case I made to an international group of high schoolers 25 years ago in a "Worldviews" class.

It is a slippery slope!

I was privileged to have their undivided attention on this subject and they could not believe what I was saying would happen.   ........ wa...laa......  here we are!

I often wonder if they reflect upon that class today as they are now in mid-life.

I capped off the class with a book by Ravi Zacharius entitled "Can Man Live Without God?"

Some of those kids went on to attend Harvard and other Ivy League schools.  I hope they used that book as a resource when they were hit with the barrage of ungodly profs. 

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 16, 2015, 04:17:53 AM
Rest easy. Hillary will not win. If the GOP does not screw it up she will self destruct. Humpty Dumpty is a good analogy of Hillary.

I am actually being concerned for what might fell into a conspiracy theory. Because, before Obama was elected, some conspiracy theorists claimed United States will have a black president and a woman president. They were right about the black president, so... Don't know what to think. If it shall be a woman president, then better to be a Conservative one. But this is probably just a crazy way of thinking.

Of course, you just follow your Conservative ideas, that is the right way.

Quote from: Mountainshield on May 16, 2015, 06:04:50 AM
Don't care much for Libertarians in general, always stating they are pro abortion like it gives them moral superiority, makes me want to puke

They are just one small step away from being libertines.

Some Libertarians are pro-life. Julie Borowski is pro-life. Ron Paul is pro-life. They believe human life begins with conception, and I agree with them. It is an obvious fact of nature that human life begins with conception. And so if we want to protect human life, liberty, and property, we should start with conception. All civilized countries have laws against murder already, they should just apply them to abortion as one of the many ways to kill a human being.

Being a Libertine is far far away from being a Libertarian. Libertines are devoid of moral restraints, which they find unnecessary. Libertarians believe in a strict rule of law which protects human life, liberty, and property. In a Libertarian society, Libertines would probably all be jailed for crimes against human life, liberty, and property.