Quote from: kit saginaw on April 02, 2016, 05:58:55 PM
A swath of urbanites just wanted the money.  The 'slave reparation' money. 

You know that bunch couldn't give a rat's petunia-pot about affordable healthcare.  That's why they're still not signed-up.  They wanted a $5,000.00 check.

I don't get why black people would have to be brought up when white people are more likely to receive benefits such as snap...

I do think though that illegal aliens take advantage of the government too much. At least here in nevada there's also a lot of fraud because of them. I think without this under control.you have lots of Americans in need of social benefits and those who do make more money burdened by the economic burden they are. I think they come here for a reason illegally because they know we wouldn't let them over legally because they aren't desired immigrants they're unsuccessful and have nothing to offer if they had anything good to offer they'd come here legally. I think they need to be banned from getting a job housing or social services or even going to the hospital without facing deportation. So when they come they only have a box and the people who help them should serve prison sentences for helping commit the crime. And of course there should be a wall and something done about the tunnels/sewers to prevent them from even entering the country I think if not we'll be affected even our schools are affected them overcrowding our schools. Rather than focusing on trivial black v white or poor v rich I think as Americans this issue affects most everyone.

Quote from: Charliemyboy on April 02, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I will be more than happy to pay reparations to any slave I ever owned.

I do find it kind of hypocritical that many in our history get reparations due to the stuff that happened to them. Like native Americans native Hawaiians and Japanese Americans during the wwii but black people don't get anything despite being mistreated far worst for over 300 years 200 years as slaves and then a hundred years after that treated worst than the peoples above. Yet they just have to "move on". Just sayin.

As far as social programs it's usually white and Americans that use them my aunts actually use them and they're white. Many take advantage of disability also sometimes because in their prefered industry illegal aliens have mostly taken their jobs which are low skilled many of the time. I wonder why we need so many low skilled illegal aliens when we have enough Americans who can do the job.....

Quote from: Charliemyboy on April 02, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I will be more than happy to pay reparations to any slave I ever owned.

Provenance will be required, of course.....   

Quote from: justme21 on April 01, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
But I'm also prolife like 100%!!!  I am a big believer in the death penalty...

That 100% might have to be lowered or put a but after it.

IMO...How can you be "pro life" and be a "big believer' in the "death penalty". Your putting both parties to death.

The way I see it is if your for one or the other. I'm Pro life and I don't believe in the death penalty.

Now if your actions are a cause for your life to be taken like in a robbery or home invasion. Tough luck, you can make amends with your maker. On the flip side if you get put down after 30 years on death row. That's what i'm against.

Quote from: taxed on April 02, 2016, 10:47:30 AM
Well I'm glad we cleared that up.

Oh drear, I forgot my caption.....

Quote from: Bronx on April 03, 2016, 05:30:44 AM
That 100% might have to be lowered or put a but after it.

IMO...How can you be "pro life" and be a "big believer' in the "death penalty". Your putting both parties to death.

The way I see it is if your for one or the other. I'm Pro life and I don't believe in the death penalty.

Now if your actions are a cause for your life to be taken like in a robbery or home invasion. Tough luck, you can make amends with your maker. On the flip side if you get put down after 30 years on death row. That's what i'm against.

I am prolife when it comes to abortion. And honestly I am prolife with a murderer. I am prolife for the life they took. The only price they can pay is by giving their life. It's only fair since the murdered can no longer live neither should he. An unborn baby has not taken a life therefore retains its right to live imo.


Ps. I think murderers should not be allowed to live 30 years and becoming the same financial burden as other criminals who did not murder I think they should be put to sleep within 3 years of their conviction. We do the right thing with terrorist. It's the same thing here and honestly they are terrorist too to the lives and loved ones they destroyed.

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Quote from: justme21 on April 02, 2016, 10:30:33 PMAs far as social programs it's usually white and Americans that use them my aunts actually use them and they're white. Many take advantage of disability also sometimes because in their prefered industry illegal aliens have mostly taken their jobs which are low skilled many of the time. I wonder why we need so many low skilled illegal aliens when we have enough Americans who can do the job.....

Blacks get 39% of the welfare dollars and whites get 38%.  The real difference being, blacks are only 13% of the population and whites are 63%.  So statistically by race, blacks are getting 4.5 Xs more than whites are.

The only way we'll really know if Americans would take the jobs by illegals is if they leave.  I seriously doubt some of the people I know of who need those jobs the most, wouldn't take them.  They would rather sit on their butts.   

Quote from: Dori on April 03, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
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Blacks get 39% of the welfare dollars and whites get 38%.  The real difference being, blacks are only 13% of the population and whites are 63%.  So statistically by race, blacks are getting 4.5 Xs more than whites are.

The only way we'll really know if Americans would take the jobs by illegals is if they leave.  I seriously doubt some of the people I know of who need those jobs the most, wouldn't take them.  They would rather sit on their butts.

They are the same people that think they should start at the top of the ladder and not work there way up.

Quote from: Dori on April 03, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
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Blacks get 39% of the welfare dollars and whites get 38%.  The real difference being, blacks are only 13% of the population and whites are 63%.  So statistically by race, blacks are getting 4.5 Xs more than whites are.

The only way we'll really know if Americans would take the jobs by illegals is if they leave.  I seriously doubt some of the people I know of who need those jobs the most, wouldn't take them.  They would rather sit on their butts.

I got a link here and many others showing  nearly 40% of of people who receive snap benefits are actually white as oppose to 25% of black americans.... Btw black americans are actually a bigger number than 13% as some black americans don't list themselves as exactly black due to being mixed race... As actually many are mixed rather than black itself.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

I actually know people who would. That's why it's a serious issue for me. Many illegal aliens take jobs in agriculture hotels retail food and beverage and factories and construction. I have friends and family that had jobs in these areas before they got taken by illegal aliens. My grandma used to actually work in agriculture. My grandfather worked in construction which was one of the few low skilled jobs that actually gave good money until they suppressed wages. My best friend's mom used to work at a factory that ended up givng her job to an illegal. My aunt was a waitress before waitresses were mainly dreamers. I had a friend that was a housekeeper. And the sad thing is they won't hire Americans anymore because many of the time illegal aliens can't speak English and revert to their natural language. It makes it very tough to have an illegal alien kitchen with an illegal alien boss who caters to them yet American servers. So the Americans lose their jobs and get replaced with usually the anchor babies or the dreamers. Someone bilingual who can speak English and the language the illegal need them to speak in order to have a good flow of communication and less mistakes. And the American is held to blame if they can't understand the other language. Sometimes it gets so bad that they don't even do this. They get someone who has basically speech impediment almost in the way their accent is extremely thick. In most countries they prefer their own people first when hiring them. Here it's the opposite and it's because of all the illegal aliens here making it where many companies need to or feel the need to cater to them. This is exactly why so many of us are on food stamps and disability. Regardless of race. But of course I wouldn't understand that the poor suffers a lot from job loss because of this along with overcrowding of our schools and high taxes if I were too far removed from it like it appears you are. I think talking about black v. white is simply a distraction. And not really anything that's exactly needed to fix..

I think letting excessive amounts of unwanted low skill workers IS something that can be changed and fixed. It's an actual problem and we have a solution and laws that can make this all go away. All we have to do is enforce the law.

Btw I am not for social programs now only in a perfect world where we could actually afford it. I think that could be achieved if more criminals were put to death and the cost of prisons were cut more and illegal immigrants were deported etc... I think we'd then have the money eventually.

What do you consider conservative to you?


Tall, dark, handsome. A bit mysterious. Makes great potato salad. Good with a firearm yet likes reading Wordsworth.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 03, 2016, 10:57:08 PM
What do you consider conservative to you?


Tall, dark, handsome. A bit mysterious. Makes great potato salad. Good with a firearm yet likes reading Wordsworth.

You forgot: likes long walks in the park..... 

Or in my case walks a Shi Tzu with a pink rhinestone collar.....carrying a 357 in my pocket....