;D ;D ;D
No, not that kind of black, but black at LNF.
I guess the admin doesn't like me... :'(
I'm so torn up about it. ::)
Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
;D ;D ;D
No, not that kind of black, but black at LNF.
I guess the admin doesn't like me... :'(
I'm so torn up about it. ::)
Now playing in the background.
Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do. Bad Boys (Cops Theme) ;D
I have no idea why he did, I haven't been over there in ages, though I did plan on stopping by to say hi.
Oh well, no big deal really.
I think he may be blaming low attendance on me, but truth is, the libs have left, so many follow the game, like the wolf in a hunt.
His numbers will return, it's a cycle, and I hold no ill will.
Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2010, 08:17:33 PM
I have no idea why he did, I haven't been over there in ages, though I did plan on stopping by to say hi.
Oh well, no big deal really.
I think he may be blaming low attendance on me, but truth is, the libs have left, so many follow the game, like the wolf in a hunt.
His numbers will return, it's a cycle, and I hold no ill will.
I think the Dem are holding off for the most part until after Nov.3 as they are licking their wounds right now just hoping for the best.
Quote from: walkstall on October 30, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
I think the Dem are holding off for the most part until after Nov.3 as they are licking their wounds right now just hoping for the best.
;D ;D ;D
Nothing worse than seeing the bullet headed straight for ya, and not a damned thing you can do about it.
That is the position the Dims are in right now, just waiting for the inevitable impact "Right Between The Ryes". 8)
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 30, 2010, 10:25:49 PM
Now that it's over, answer me this . . .
what's the difference between what you are doing here
and what y'all so roundly criticized LL for doing a year and a half ago?
Personally I didn't care, but it's admins forum, he can do what he wants, but he never booted her.
That's a huge difference.
Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
;D ;D ;D
No, not that kind of black, but black at LNF.
I guess the admin doesn't like me... :'(
I'm so torn up about it. ::)
Does that mean that you're banned over there?
Quote from: crepe05 on October 31, 2010, 03:30:06 AM
Does that mean that you're banned over there?
Yes. When the username has been banned, it "goes black," and does not link to any posts or to the former user's profile.
How sad.... :(
His forum his rules.... I am much happier here anyway. ;D
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 31, 2010, 06:52:35 AM
How sad.... :(
His forum his rules.... I am much happier here anyway. ;D
Well, shucks,
I reckon! ;D
Interesting thing to see, there, watching the libs sneak away and the RINOs and trolls take over. I can understand the part about few libs there these days. And the trolls, the drive-bys and the writhing little worms who got pounded flat there the
last time they broke surface. Any sort of serious leftist there is lying low, and the same predictable cranks now rule that roost.
If trolls like Darwinist or foreign trolls like Rob Larrikin are permitted, that is the LNF admin's sole prerogative. After all, the higher the number of page-hits, the higher potential revenue from Google AdSense or any other advertiser. I've said that there, publicly, several times. So have several others now members here, so I can't even call that fresh news for him. Shucks,
I reckon! It might even be
true!....AdSense loves ya, Kojak. Enjoy a lollipop, the brawling is just fine for your bottom line.
Nope. Can't fault him on that part. Nor on the part about his forum, his rules.
But allow me as a skilled practitioner of the fine art of internet brawling to point out, yes, all that is 100% valid. Give them bread and circuses and they will flock to your amphitheater...for awhile.
But if the gladiators are twisted little idiots or nearly professional trolls, the OTHER truth of it all is, sooner or later people of any conscience are going to get really, really tired of the attacks and the games. I clearly recall that from back in 2002 when I first joined LNF. Back when I was
seriously nasty, still smarting from battling at a site even worse than LNF has now become.
I also pointed out to him that even before he banned me for one week, I actually HAD made vast improvements over those not-so-gentle early years. I think I repeated that after coming back. I also have publicly wondered how someone could be appointed a moderator of a forum where participation has fallen so sharply that it
should be INSTANTLY apparent to any casual visitor.
Above, I mentioned bottom line. Assuming I am correct that he is 100% entitled to have AdSense or any other advertising on his site. Assuming he does in fact want maximum visitors.
Doesn't it make sense then to have a moderator whom the long-time, heavy-volume hard-core House users can actually stand? Those AdSense payouts would be huge, if SOME of those folks start getting festive again, not revolted.
But hey, it's not my site. Let him worry about his own bottom line, and wonder why nobody visits the House.
Quote from: crepe05 on October 31, 2010, 03:30:06 AM
Does that mean that you're banned over there?
Yep, and no idea as to why. ::)
Did he just now realize or find out I started a new forum?
I wonder if he banned Bert, Dan and taxed as well?
I'll check and let you know. Brb
Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2010, 07:51:46 AM
Yep, and no idea as to why. ::)
Did he just now realize or find out I started a new forum?
I wonder if he banned Bert, Dan and taxed as well?
No blacked-out names visible. Can't speak for within any threads-in-play, or earlier than page 1.
Quote from: quiller on October 31, 2010, 08:00:56 AM
No blacked-out names visible. Can't speak for within any threads-in-play, or earlier than page 1.
This is why I asked you if you knew where admin was from, I thought I saw him lurking the other day, I guess I was right.
I'm still active at LNF. Maybe he just doesn't like you Solar? ;D
Quote from: Dan on October 31, 2010, 08:07:50 AM
I'm still active at LNF. Maybe he just doesn't like you Solar? ;D
;D ;D ;D
Whats not to like? ::)
Don't answer that. :))
Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2010, 08:03:26 AM
This is why I asked you if you knew where admin was from, I thought I saw him lurking the other day, I guess I was right.
I also said I didn't know for sure, or his real identity, which he never disclosed to me.
If he's lurking, let him. Invite him to sign in and be heard, as he allowed you and I to be heard. Let him defend himself against his critics, and currently
I am one over the awful choices involving the House. But that part he already knew, if he read my messages at all.
Quote from: quiller on October 31, 2010, 08:11:37 AM
I also said I didn't know for sure, or his real identity, which he never disclosed to me.
If he's lurking, let him. Invite him to sign in and be heard, as he allowed you and I to be heard. Let him defend himself against his critics, and currently I am one over the awful choices involving the House. But that part he already knew, if he read my messages at all.
Yes, I should clarify, you never divulged anything.
But if he is lurking, then he knows he is welcome solely based on my posts.
Otherwise I have no idea why he waited till now to ban me.
Though I do remember saying that if he banned me instead of Rob, it would be a reflection on him and not me.
I guess Rob is more important. ;D
Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2010, 08:16:02 AM
Yes, I should clarify, you never divulged anything.
Thanks. I divulge enough all by myself, thank you, but appreciate NOT getting undue credit. Or something.
QuoteBut if he is lurking, then he knows he is welcome solely based on my posts.
Otherwise I have no idea why he waited till now to ban me.
Though I do remember saying that if he banned me instead of Rob, it would be a reflection on him and not me.
I guess Rob is more important. ;D
If he feels his bottom line needs page-hits generated by a phony American attacking actual U.S. posters, that is
100% his absolute right. Bring back Darwinist, as well.
Really class the place up so newcomers will post more than a handful of times before wandering away.
Been there. Seen that. His site. His call.
I'm over at LNF every day, just as I am here, and I've never noticed any blacked-out names in threads. What the heck am I not noticing?
Personally, I enjoy their political forum. It has some libs on it and I enjoy arguing with them. Neither one of us wins, but who does in a political discussion? Politics and Religion are two subjects that people argue and minds rarely change. That's the fun of it all, as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: crepe05 on November 01, 2010, 03:13:32 AM
I'm over at LNF every day, just as I am here, and I've never noticed any blacked-out names in threads. What the heck am I not noticing?
Solar hadn't posted in some time. Suggest you roll back to about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Or read halfway down this index-page....
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general/450 (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general/450)
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Quote from: quiller on November 01, 2010, 03:36:20 AM
Solar hadn't posted in some time. Suggest you roll back to about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Or read halfway down this index-page....
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general/450 (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general/450)
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Ex-member. That's too bad. Do they ever give a reason? It was interesting to me that the 14 page thread is still available to respond to. I already responded when it was first posted, and wasn't interested in doing so at this point. Water over the bridge or something. Thanks for the link.
Okey-dokey. I went to LNF today and found a disgusting email there that needs a bit of discussion out in the open, where the LNF admin can read it.
For the record: Solar has invited the LNF admin to join here, and has stated he bears no ill will for being banned. As I stated earlier, "His site. His call." --- just a different admin, of a site which has already DOUBLED the number of actual members on-line in one day, compared to the LNF record set two years ago.
This site has life. LNF has pleas for informants, and half the action.
That's called an Unprovoked Outbreak of the Truth™ --- a phrase I made up and used for years at LNF, and now I use it regarding its owner and administrator.
Argue facts, not emotion. The LNF admin repeatedly told me to do just that. So imagine my total lack of surprise when I opened a PM there and found admin asking for informants, to winnow out any member who was sending anyone over here. The admin called that "disgusting."
I was invited to join here, by two LNF members, and I did. I will not comply with supplying names of those who asked me.
I flatly state here for the record, Honest Men Do Not Fear Competition. They either rise to it or fall because of it, but you damn sure don't play ostrich and demand others ignore that competition.
For the record: someone running a business such as a profit-making web site like LNF should wonder why page-hits have gone down in totals, after naming a certain moderator to The House there. I invite a date-by-date comparison, beginning from the date of that moderator's assignment. I am flatly confident the declining totals will speak for themselves.
Before worrying about competition, worry about the passive-aggressive drama queen who drove off DOZENS of active users on that forum.
The same admin who also allowed blatant trolls like Darwinist and Rob Larrikin (to repeatedly return, to boost his own page-hits), ought to wonder why page-hits bottomed out after naming that moderator.
My name is quiller, and I will not rat out good people. My late father, a business man who whipped all challengers through honest competition, would say I totally failed if I ever did that.
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Quote from: crepe05 on November 01, 2010, 04:57:35 AM
Ex-member. That's too bad. Do they ever give a reason?
In my case it came down to this.
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I alway find good clean Competition builds character.
But that just my way of thinking. ;D
I regret that the link goes to the TOP of this page and not individual post #23 in this thread.
If the quiller1 username at LNF goes to black, I proved my point beyond all doubt.
I am not a rat. Try treating me like one and I do more than bare my fangs.
Quote from: walkstall on November 01, 2010, 06:18:51 AM
I alway find good clean Competition builds character.
But that just my way of thinking. ;D
Didn't seem to do much for Thee and Me, Walks. ;D
If I, an Old Curmudgeon of The First Order, may inject a thought here.
Sometimes we all take ourselves far too seriously and then we join up with others who are doing the same.
Lighten the load, folks, the old mule will last longer.
Quote from: Shooterman on November 01, 2010, 07:04:03 AM
Didn't seem to do much for Thee and Me, Walks. ;D
My kids and grandkids love me. ;D My great grandkids may in time. LOL
Quote from: Shooterman on November 01, 2010, 07:08:51 AM
If I, an Old Curmudgeon of The First Order, may inject a thought here.
Sometimes we all take ourselves far too seriously and then we join up with others who are doing the same.
Lighten the load, folks, the old mule will last longer.
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At
some message sites, define "last longer." ;D
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At some message sites, define "last longer." ;D
Ah, me Bucko, on some forums, longevity is definitely a sign of dementia.
I've been on so many forums, I have definitely lost count, a conservative guess would be somewhere north of a hundred. Some I've abandoned outright, some I have quit. I have been banned from a few, others I have banned myself. Of the handful from which I was banned, I really only felt badly getting the axe from Admin's Alter Ego Forum. ( or one of them, he tried another experiment and it went over like a pregnant pole vaulter ) That one really hurt, but power corrupts and absolute power very well does corrupt. For the absolute longest, I did not go black, even though one of our erstwhile fellow members was banned at the same time and did go black immediately. ( if not sooner ) I could not sign in, and no one knew if I had been banned at all, except I, the Big Dog, and Admin. For the longest, I couldn't even view the forum, but that eased eventually. Two things were evident and would definitely get you banned; don't knock Bush, and do not be a libertarian. Oh, the third, do not have the name Bob Larkin or defend him.
As with most of us ( except Solar, of course ) the latch is still open at LNF. It has fallen on hard times, but will recover, in my estimation. It's not the first good forum I've seen founder.
After a couple of system crashes, I went back under an assumed name, but eventually left when the sugar coalesced on me.
That one hurt.
Maybe if I sent our newest members over there, he would see that we are not stealing people, but merely sharing them.
Hell, it's not as if we lock the door once someone enters and never let them post anywhere else.
It's beyond me how a so called Conservative can't grasp the concept of competition.
The last thing you would ever do is go on a witch hunt asking your customers to "Turncoat" on those they socialize with.
So for those that have never been there, and there are quite a few of you, check it out, the forum is a good one, the people are all great, but you may take issue with the rules, they are quite numerous.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general (http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?board=general)
Oh, and one other thing, all of those that we stole from LNF, you're free to go, we really didn't lock the door. ::) ;D
Competition's a funny thing. Some come to message forums to do just that, electronically joust over this game or that, this belief system or that, this religion or that. We seek like-minded, fair-minded good companions --- or we come to troll, to wound, to inflict damage in all directions, unmindful of repercussions.
You, Shooter, A-mom, arpad, and of course The Usual Suspects here with "admin" after their names, are all among that category. The like- and fair-minded good companions. I've laughed and jousted with both you and my good friend Walks, and despite any political differences I will call you my good friend as well.
Yes, you're playing Voice of Reason to my ranting unreasonable brat. Okey-dokey. But when someone sends out a blanket request for informants, that is DESPERATION, and even us brats can see it for what it is.
Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2010, 08:12:57 AM
Oh, and one other thing, all of those that we stole from LNF, you're free to go, we really didn't lock the door. ::) ;D
What if I decide to stay and test your threshold of pain?
I said that to LNF admin as well. Let your voice be heard at Liberty News Forum....
Quote from: quiller on November 01, 2010, 08:20:23 AM
What if I decide to stay and test your threshold of pain?
I said that to LNF admin as well. Let your voice be heard at Liberty News Forum....
Can you even begin to imagine the reaction I would get if I started pitting member against member, or threatening the idea that anyone sharing private messages entailing information about another forum should face my wrath, what the final outcome would be?
When will people learn, slavery is dead in this Country, you do not own your customer. ;D
Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2010, 09:10:11 AM
Can you even begin to imagine the reaction I would get if I started pitting member against member, or threatening the idea that anyone sharing private messages entailing information about another forum should face my wrath, what the final outcome would be?
When will people learn, slavery is dead in this Country, you do not own your customer. ;D
Set a little ear-worm music and recall your favorite Negro spiritual so deeply-entwined in our national religious culture. Get into it, now. Feel that yoke. Crave that freedom.
Herewith, a Sermon from the definitely-not-right Rev. Weaselteeth. The one with the bandages on his face....
Over the years at LNF, I saw many hugely-talented people pass through. Nytebird, one example. Way earlier than Rob Larrikin, Nyte supplied cheerful little visuals that just helped lighten a day's load.
My wife and I have actually met about a dozen LNF members and consider all of them good upstanding people. I hear second-hand Nyte is just as nice in person as I found the source who told that to me. Another lady now long gone from The House at LNF. Good people come abnd good people go, and it isn't always just one thing which prompts them to do it.
I don't know why Nyte moved on, or ProudVet (who had recommended LNF to me), and to about 30 others from the old ATT board who got links to LNF --- and actually stayed, at least for awhile.
I can't even recall if I signed in at forums started up by other LNF members ---
except of course my short-lived stint at JFA's place. ;D ;D ;D That one ended
splendidly.... How
dare I say Catholics are Christian!
How dare I! :))
Well, I'm Protestant, raised on movies with Christian themes produced by Hollywood Jews, including the idea that in America you are free to declare any personal belief that God empowers you to verbalize.
(A rare religious side-trip for me here, into Political Land....) Me, I see the original Christian Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churches as equal viable conduits for essentially similar doctrine. I also see America as a place for any storefront preacher to become the next university founder with thousands of people all serving their particular shared belief.
You get a lot farther
with belief than
without it. I think it was the Catholic Rev. Fr. G.K. Chesterton who wrote that.
JFA just didn't get it. Last I heard, it's the same dude nailed to that cross thingie. Strip away the various sects' hooplah and the bureaucracy, it's still the same Jesus and still the same Christianity which now enfolds fully one-third of this planet. At JFA's place, he was willing to cut out a major chunk of people. Me in particular when I bristled at that remark by him.
So no, I didn't last long at JFA's place. I recall I
wasn't banned at LNF for joining there.
;D In closing: no, Solar actually didn't answer my question. That threshold of pain thing.
;D Neither did the LNF admin, in that Why I Post at LNF thread. ;D
Quote from: quiller on November 01, 2010, 10:36:25 AM
;D In closing: no, Solar actually didn't answer my question. That threshold of pain thing.
;D Neither did the LNF admin, in that Why I Post at LNF thread. ;D
Because I didn't understand your point. ::)
Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2010, 10:44:15 AM
Because I didn't understand your point. ::)
I'll leave you the closing line on that one. Bogart's, from Casablanca. ;D
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