We all know she's a Tool/Useful Idiot, but who's Useful Idiot?

I know this may sound strange, but think about it, if you wanted to destroy the DNC, what better way than to "create" a character, someone too stupid to realize she's a dupe for the opposition?
More than likely, not the case, but they did after all, have a casting call for empty headed libs to run for a political seat. It's highly doubtful the DNC even knew what was happening, or they'd have gotten her contender off his worthless ass to campaign, even just a tiny bit. He didn't and she squeezed out a tiny win.

This opens the question as to who is really behind this action, where they have a person that has to be coached on every aspect of socialism and anti-capitalism, and when she speaks from the heart, exposes her absolute ignorance on every subject regarding our Republic, not to mention economics.
The actual result has made Fuglosi out to be a total fool, someone that can no longer keep the party a homogeneous mix of Hate Group/Victims, bickering among themselves, so much so, that she is scared to death to call out freshmen in her own party over antisemitic hate speech, there own created language and infanticide.
It's as if the party was ripe for picking and the rotten fruit have seized the party.

Point being, the Dim party, as predicted, is dead!

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
I know this may sound strange, but think about it, if you wanted to destroy the DNC, what better way that to "create" a character, someone too stupid to realize she's a dupe for the opposition?
More than likely, not the case, but they did after all, have a casting call for empty headed libs to run for a political seat. It's highly doubtful the DNC even knew what was happening, or they'd have gotten her contender off his worthless ass to campaign, even just a tiny bit. He didn't and she squeezed out a tiny win.

This opens the question as to who is really behind this action, where they have a person that has to be coached on every aspect of socialism and anti-capitalism, and when she speaks from the heart, exposes her absolute ignorance on every subject regarding our Republic, not to mention economics.
The actual result has made Fuglosi out to be a total fool, someone that can no longer keep the party a homogeneous mix of Hate Group/Victims, bickering among themselves, so much so, that she is scared to death to call out freshmen in her own party over antisemitic hate speech, there own created language.
It's as if the party was ripe for picking and the rotten fruit have seized the party.

Point being, the Dim party, as predicted is dead!

One could make the same argument over at least a couple of dozen of the old dims and all of the new dims. Their leaders are ready for the graveyard, the new ones are stupid, their tactics are driving away any voters with any common sense, the media who backs them has to use fake news, Good lord, they vote to allow illegals the right to vote, they can not even criticize hate speech when it is one of their own.     I can not believe the republicans are this good.    But, the republicans, or rather the tea party was good enough to kick out several of the rinos.    I see a bright future. Go Trump!  Who will be the first woman president?   "Ivanka"



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Quote from: s3779m on March 10, 2019, 03:28:29 PM
One could make the same argument over at least a couple of dozen of the old dims and all of the new dims. Their leaders are ready for the graveyard, the new ones are stupid, their tactics are driving away any voters with any common sense, the media who backs them has to use fake news, Good lord, they vote to allow illegals the right to vote, they can not even criticize hate speech when it is one of their own.     I can not believe the republicans are this good.    But, the republicans, or rather the tea party was good enough to kick out several of the rinos.    I see a bright future. Go Trump!  Who will be the first woman president?   "Ivanka"



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The DNC was like a gangrenous wound with a huge scab, (Hillary) then she lost, the Clinton machine collapsed, the scab was ripped off and true Marxists entered the wound.
But who orchestrated this whole plot? Soros, the GOP Establishment or, is their a M/E connection?

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
The DNC was like a gangrenous wound with a huge scab, (Hillary) then she lost, the Clinton machine collapsed, the scab was ripped off and true Marxists entered the wound.
But who orchestrated this whole plot? Soros, the GOP Establishment or, is their a M/E connection?

I guess I am reading the question two ways, is it who or what is causing the left to act irrational as if no one is running the show, or who is pushing the party toward socialism?

Quote from: s3779m on March 10, 2019, 04:59:13 PM
I guess I am reading the question two ways, is it who or what is causing the left to act irrational as if no one is running the show, or who is pushing the party toward socialism?

Yes to both. Leadership within the party collapsed. The Clinton machine ran the party since the late 80s with a Marxist faction working in the wings, or, as I alluded to earlier, The Establishment.
Enter the Marxist Obozo, (same Marxist that got him elected over the Clinton machine) whom, due to complete incompetence and downright laziness crippled the party.
Fast forward, Hillary loses, the Clinton machine and all its gears exploded and froze. This leftist a huge vacuum, a void to fill and the Marxist entity seized on the opportunity, simply because they no longer feared the Clinton machine. Or were smart enough to take advantage of a rudderless party. (Did they help this collapse in order to take it over?)

Note, the Establishment controlled both party's, or rather, used to, thanks to Trump.
Here's the thing, if say, it were the Establishment, then the RINO in the party see an end to their power, so the Establishment seized the opportunity to takeover the Dim party.
If it's not the Establishment machine, then the Dim party is in full meltdown, never to recover.

The same people that run the media have their fingers in everyone's pockets, EG. the GOP Establishment as well as the DNC. So if they didn't orchestrate this takeover, then it was a Marxist faction that took a huge bite and can't swallow, so the party chokes to death. But if it is the Establishment, that means they see no future in the GOP.

I hope that makes sense, it's hard enough for me to articulate as it is.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Yes to both. Leadership within the party collapsed. The Clinton machine ran the party since the late 80s with a Marxist faction working in the wings, or, as I alluded to earlier, The Establishment.
Enter the Marxist Obozo, (same Marxist that got him elected over the Clinton machine) whom, due to complete incompetence and downright laziness crippled the party.
Fast forward, Hillary loses, the Clinton machine and all its gears exploded and froze. This leftist a huge vacuum, a void to fill and the Marxist entity seized on the opportunity, simply because they no longer feared the Clinton machine. Or were smart enough to take advantage of a rudderless party. (Did they help this collapse in order to take it over?)

Note, the Establishment controlled both party's, or rather, used to, thanks to Trump.
Here's the thing, if say, it were the Establishment, then the RINO in the party see an end to their power, so the Establishment seized the opportunity to takeover the Dim party.
If it's not the Establishment machine, then the Dim party is in full meltdown, never to recover.

The same people that run the media have their fingers in everyone's pockets, EG. the GOP Establishment as well as the DNC. So if they didn't orchestrate this takeover, then it was a Marxist faction that took a huge bite and can't swallow, so the party chokes to death. But if it is the Establishment, that means they see no future in the GOP.

I hope that makes sense, it's hard enough for me to articulate as it is.

Way I see it Solar is the left has no back bone and cannot stand up and police their own party. They would rather embrace someone like Cortez then stand up to her and call her out for what she is, and idiotic piece of trash who will never get anywhere. The left has created this idea that they can just do and say whatever they want now as a response against Trump. Now a bunch of radicals have infiltrated the party and they can't stop it.

The way I see it, Pelosi and Schumer would rather sit back and let the party go down then stand up for what they really believe. Granted I do not agree with them at all I do feel somewhat bad for them in believing tht I don't think they support these resolutions and rhetoric passed by these new freshman congress people. I just think the party has gone so far radical in every sense of the term, that if they were to fight back no one would listen.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
I know this may sound strange, but think about it, if you wanted to destroy the DNC, what better way that to "create" a character, someone too stupid to realize she's a dupe for the opposition?
More than likely, not the case, but they did after all, have a casting call for empty headed libs to run for a political seat. It's highly doubtful the DNC even knew what was happening, or they'd have gotten her contender off his worthless ass to campaign, even just a tiny bit. He didn't and she squeezed out a tiny win.

That is a damn good point.  I know this sounds crazy, but seriously, why was he just sitting back?  He had to have had some internal polling....

Quote
This opens the question as to who is really behind this action, where they have a person that has to be coached on every aspect of socialism and anti-capitalism, and when she speaks from the heart, exposes her absolute ignorance on every subject regarding our Republic, not to mention economics.
The actual result has made Fuglosi out to be a total fool, someone that can no longer keep the party a homogeneous mix of Hate Group/Victims, bickering among themselves, so much so, that she is scared to death to call out freshmen in her own party over antisemitic hate speech, there own created language.
It's as if the party was ripe for picking and the rotten fruit have seized the party.

Point being, the Dim party, as predicted is dead!

That is so funny you posted this, because as I was going through old articles, I found your Democrats beyond 2018 article and was about to post it...

Quote from: s3779m on March 10, 2019, 03:28:29 PM
One could make the same argument over at least a couple of dozen of the old dims and all of the new dims. Their leaders are ready for the graveyard, the new ones are stupid, their tactics are driving away any voters with any common sense, the media who backs them has to use fake news, Good lord, they vote to allow illegals the right to vote, they can not even criticize hate speech when it is one of their own.     I can not believe the republicans are this good.    But, the republicans, or rather the tea party was good enough to kick out several of the rinos.    I see a bright future. Go Trump!  Who will be the first woman president?   "Ivanka"



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That's the part I thought about too against this theory....   

From September, 2017: https://conservativehardliner.com/future-democrat-party-2018-and-beyond

QuoteThere is a three-way schism within, the party is challenged from the far left, in a country that prides itself on American values. What's 27% divided by 3? That's what the Dim party is dealing with, they're splitting a tiny base between, Bernie Fabian Socialists, Marxists, and the Crony Corporate party.

You probably won't find these numbers printed, but be assured, they are quite real. Taken from internal polling for party members only, numbers the public never get to see. In this case, they were accidentally spoken by an unnamed party member who was not only devastated by the direction the party had taken, but by those who remained behind to support, what consisted of the party base after 8 long years of the Marxist Administration.

Meanwhile, we have red state dems in a panic, radicals taking over the party and boxing in Pelosi, and a far-left candidate who has to run as an independent because the Dems are too radical.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Yes to both. Leadership within the party collapsed. The Clinton machine ran the party since the late 80s with a Marxist faction working in the wings, or, as I alluded to earlier, The Establishment.
Enter the Marxist Obozo, (same Marxist that got him elected over the Clinton machine) whom, due to complete incompetence and downright laziness crippled the party.
Fast forward, Hillary loses, the Clinton machine and all its gears exploded and froze. This leftist a huge vacuum, a void to fill and the Marxist entity seized on the opportunity, simply because they no longer feared the Clinton machine. Or were smart enough to take advantage of a rudderless party. (Did they help this collapse in order to take it over?)

Note, the Establishment controlled both party's, or rather, used to, thanks to Trump.
Here's the thing, if say, it were the Establishment, then the RINO in the party see an end to their power, so the Establishment seized the opportunity to takeover the Dim party.
If it's not the Establishment machine, then the Dim party is in full meltdown, never to recover.

The same people that run the media have their fingers in everyone's pockets, EG. the GOP Establishment as well as the DNC. So if they didn't orchestrate this takeover, then it was a Marxist faction that took a huge bite and can't swallow, so the party chokes to death. But if it is the Establishment, that means they see no future in the GOP.

I hope that makes sense, it's hard enough for me to articulate as it is.

I do think Trump's job was made easier by the tea party. The rino's running for president were being kicked out of the primaries faster than could be counted, Tea wanted it's party and nation back. Trump fit the bill, he is a patriot. I was dead wrong about him. Your right about the leftist vacuum. I see a couple of items, I agree the dims have been rudderless since obama won his first primary. He was and never will be a leader, he is walking bullshit nothing more, but while he was walking, impressing himself, hillary and obama were robbing the dims blind. I do think the clintons and the establishment had a love/hate, hillary had dirt on everyone in the establishment and the establishment would stay in power with her. I believe both saw/see socialism aas the ultimate power grab. The other item that comes to mind on the dims, they are reaping what they sowed, this is the result of a liberal school system, it backfired on them, I'm mainly talking institutions of higher learning here. These new liberals are devouring each other because they have been taught they are the important ones, they are to be listened to, they are the true victim, they get the trophy for just being them. One positive out of this mess, I do not ever see all of these little spoiled brats coming together to support one candidate, they will never put someone else about their own agenda. Nor do they see that their socialism will crush them like a bug the day it becomes the norm. As a nation, we dodged the big one this past election. Had hillary been the one to replace Scalia, we would be well on our way to socialism or in civil war. I think here "If it's not the Establishment machine, then the Dim party is in full meltdown, never to recover." that it is the party in full melt down. I look at who is running, warren, harris, booker, ect. not exactly power people. The dims went on melt down when obama surfaced.

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on March 10, 2019, 08:48:02 PM
Way I see it Solar is the left has no back bone and cannot stand up and police their own party. They would rather embrace someone like Cortez then stand up to her and call her out for what she is, and idiotic piece of trash who will never get anywhere. The left has created this idea that they can just do and say whatever they want now as a response against Trump. Now a bunch of radicals have infiltrated the party and they can't stop it.

The way I see it, Pelosi and Schumer would rather sit back and let the party go down then stand up for what they really believe. Granted I do not agree with them at all I do feel somewhat bad for them in believing tht I don't think they support these resolutions and rhetoric passed by these new freshman congress people. I just think the party has gone so far radical in every sense of the term, that if they were to fight back no one would listen.

True, they don't have a backbone because Hillary didn't allow them in her party, but now that she's gone, the men neutered, and the Stepford women in charge, it's a Hormone Rave with PC Rules.
Point being, their rules and priorities change at a moments notice, they have no moral compass, let alone real world values, and without a dictator at the helm, the prisoners are running wild.
With that said, the money is in short supply because backers of a decade ago don't want to throw money behind candidates if they aren't going to see a return.

However, the media is still owned by a bunch of leftists who run the party which is why talking points and narratives have always been on the same page since my inception and decades before, they owned the concerted message and America dutifully followed.
But since Trump entered the picture he has been the focal point, the enemy that needed to be taken down. This is the left, they are still on the same page, but the party can't seem to get its shit together, and it's all due to external forces, which is why I posed the question of who is behind the move to seize the party?

Quote from: taxed on March 10, 2019, 08:54:14 PM
That is a damn good point.  I know this sounds crazy, but seriously, why was he just sitting back?  He had to have had some internal polling....

That is so funny you posted this, because as I was going through old articles, I found your Democrats beyond 2018 article and was about to post it...

I didn't want to state this in the OP, but I have a suspicion that he was paid off and retired. After all, he is a Dim that never gave a shit about anything so selling out the party for profit was a productive move, like throwing a fight for a couple of million.

Quote from: taxed on March 10, 2019, 09:35:13 PM
That's the part I thought about too against this theory....   

The GOP isn't that smart, anyway not anyone in leadership, but the people pulling their strings are. (Think Soros and McStain) These are the people that bought the party several decades ago and gave us the likes of Ryan and Bitch McCON.
It took me some time to get past the idea that there are two party's, when in fact, the same money that gave us Ryan, supported Hillary as well.
No, I have no proof, but when you watch their actions, ignore the rhetoric, they were literally on the same page.

Quote from: taxed on March 10, 2019, 09:41:23 PM
From September, 2017: https://conservativehardliner.com/future-democrat-party-2018-and-beyond

Meanwhile, we have red state dems in a panic, radicals taking over the party and boxing in Pelosi, and a far-left candidate who has to run as an independent because the Dems are too radical.

And all the Dims are usurping his every talking point as part of the party platform as they push poor old commie Bernie out.

I totally forgot I wrote that article. Odd it never took off back then. I wonder if people believe me now?

Quote from: s3779m on March 11, 2019, 05:14:45 AM
I do think Trump's job was made easier by the tea party. The rino's running for president were being kicked out of the primaries faster than could be counted, Tea wanted it's party and nation back. Trump fit the bill, he is a patriot. I was dead wrong about him. Your right about the leftist vacuum. I see a couple of items, I agree the dims have been rudderless since obama won his first primary. He was and never will be a leader, he is walking bullshit nothing more, but while he was walking, impressing himself, hillary and obama were robbing the dims blind. I do think the clintons and the establishment had a love/hate, hillary had dirt on everyone in the establishment and the establishment would stay in power with her. I believe both saw/see socialism aas the ultimate power grab. The other item that comes to mind on the dims, they are reaping what they sowed, this is the result of a liberal school system, it backfired on them, I'm mainly talking institutions of higher learning here. These new liberals are devouring each other because they have been taught they are the important ones, they are to be listened to, they are the true victim, they get the trophy for just being them. One positive out of this mess, I do not ever see all of these little spoiled brats coming together to support one candidate, they will never put someone else about their own agenda. Nor do they see that their socialism will crush them like a bug the day it becomes the norm. As a nation, we dodged the big one this past election. Had hillary been the one to replace Scalia, we would be well on our way to socialism or in civil war. I think here "If it's not the Establishment machine, then the Dim party is in full meltdown, never to recover." that it is the party in full melt down. I look at who is running, warren, harris, booker, ect. not exactly power people. The dims went on melt down when obama surfaced.

Exactly, we didn't lose the House, the GOP'E did, TEA simply refused to support another RINO for another term, along with the fact that internal polling showed they didn't have a prayer now that TEA was in charge so a shitload of them retired before the embarrassment could ever happen.