This explains my point, that nothing has changed, the same monied interests are out there, just the people have abandoned the old guard for the new guard.

A dark money group based in California contributed $2 million to The Democracy Integrity Project, the organization that has contracted with Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to investigate President Donald Trump.
The Democracy Integrity Project's founder, a former staffer for Sen. Dianne Feinstein, has acknowledged to the FBI that the group provides information to the press, lawmakers and investigators.
Fund for a Better Future is the second Democracy Integrity Project donor to have been identified. George Soros gave $1 million to the group.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/10/dark-money-fusion-steele-soros/

Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2019, 05:29:26 AM
True, they don't have a backbone because Hillary didn't allow them in her party, but now that she's gone, the men neutered, and the Stepford women in charge, it's a Hormone Rave with PC Rules.
Point being, their rules and priorities change at a moments notice, they have no moral compass, let alone real world values, and without a dictator at the helm, the prisoners are running wild.
With that said, the money is in short supply because backers of a decade ago don't want to throw money behind candidates if they aren't going to see a return.

However, the media is still owned by a bunch of leftists who run the party which is why talking points and narratives have always been on the same page since my inception and decades before, they owned the concerted message and America dutifully followed.
But since Trump entered the picture he has been the focal point, the enemy that needed to be taken down. This is the left, they are still on the same page, but the party can't seem to get its shit together, and it's all due to external forces, which is why I posed the question of who is behind the move to seize the party?

I don't think anyone at this point. In my opinion, which can be debated, I think it's a melee right there. From what I see there is a push by the media to promote these new radical heads in the party like Cortez, Omar and, Talib. All of whom hit the trifecta to run the now highly intersectional party. Who is behind the move exactly? It's hard to say. I don't think it's any on person in particular. I think its a mix of media endorsement peppered with the self interest of these new elects.

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on March 11, 2019, 06:35:01 AM
I don't think anyone at this point. In my opinion, which can be debated, I think it's a melee right there. From what I see there is a push by the media to promote these new radical heads in the party like Cortez, Omar and, Talib. All of whom hit the trifecta to run the now highly intersectional party. Who is behind the move exactly? It's hard to say. I don't think it's any on person in particular. I think its a mix of media endorsement peppered with the self interest of these new elects.

See reply #15.
Nothing changed, all the same people are involved, they merely started new groups after the Clinton machine collapsed.
Granted, there is new blood intermixed, but it's still the old guard in control of the money machine. The same people that control the media, it is they who gave AOC star status, a complete moron is hogging 80% of media time.
This is a potent reminder for Fuglosi, that she is not in control of the party platform.

Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2019, 06:48:00 AM
See reply #15.
Nothing changed, all the same people are involved, they merely started new groups after the Clinton machine collapsed.
Granted, there is new blood intermixed, but it's still the old guard in control of the money machine. The same people that control the media, it is they who gave AOC star status, a complete moron is hogging 80% of media time.
This is a potent reminder for Fuglosi, that she is not in control of the party platform.

I don't dispute that at all Solar I agree. I don't think Fugloi had held control for a while. I think she is complicit in this because she has no other choice. If she could stand up and go against this new wave without being completely torn down by the base I think she would. I think she realizes that will never happen though, and decides to go along with everything knowing that if she doesn't she will be a lost and forgotten soul.

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on March 11, 2019, 06:58:12 AM
I don't dispute that at all Solar I agree. I don't think Fugloi had held control for a while. I think she is complicit in this because she has no other choice. If she could stand up and go against this new wave without being completely torn down by the base I think she would. I think she realizes that will never happen though, and decides to go along with everything knowing that if she doesn't she will be a lost and forgotten soul.

I agree, she knew long before anyone else that the party was changing dramatically. I think she is staying around in hopes of steering it towards something she thinks can survive, because she, like everyone else knows, Marxism will never survive in this country.

Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2019, 07:02:03 AM
I agree, she knew long before anyone else that the party was changing dramatically. I think she is staying around in hopes of steering it towards something she thinks can survive, because she, like everyone else knows, Marxism will never survive in this country.

Feglosi, like most every Dem in my opionion does not believe in marxism. It was entertained for a while before recent but has now been main streamed by the new elects in Congress who like you said earlier are ven start status by the media. I agree that Fuglosi is doing what she can to try and bring the party back to a working state, yet it's not easy when AOC is quick to assasinate anyone who dares to speak the truth in her party.

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on March 11, 2019, 07:17:37 AM
Feglosi, like most every Dem in my opionion does not believe in marxism. It was entertained for a while before recent but has now been main streamed by the new elects in Congress who like you said earlier are ven start status by the media. I agree that Fuglosi is doing what she can to try and bring the party back to a working state, yet it's not easy when AOC is quick to assasinate anyone who dares to speak the truth in her party.

Yep, and AOC is a perfect example of the Marxist monied connection. The same money that runs the LSM, also runs the Dim party that also turned AOC into this 'supposed' super star. Seriously, the woman is a blank slate, yet they foisted her to the status of "Boss"? Only a leftist media could pull off such a stunt.

Like I said earlier, both party's are controlled by the Establishment, or were, until Trump showed up.
Point being, it would appear that the Establishment may be abandoning the GOP for the Dim Marxist movement in hopes of stealing the country from traditional American culture.

This web the Marxist movement weaved into our society if viewed in the prism of history over the last 60 years, as pointed out in the "Communist Goals of 1963" https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/communist-goals-(1963)/

It's easy to see the Marxist incrementalist creep and where we are today, we're literally on the precipice. However, I believe we have turned the corner and are on the road to recovery.
I never expected to see another Reagan in my lifetime, but Trump surpassed any hopes I had of seeing another great leader. Both individuals were elected against the wishes of both party's, both have exposed a serious Marxist cancer in our political machine.

I moved this from conspiracy, simply because it isn't conspiracy, the party is being taken-over by Marxists.

Let's summarize this entire conversation. The democrats are losing long time dependable supporters. They panicked to add to their numbers, including Marxists. It worked. Now they cannot put that toothpaste back in the tube.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 11, 2019, 10:57:44 AM
Let's summarize this entire conversation. The democrats are losing long time dependable supporters. They panicked to add to their numbers, including Marxists. It worked. Now they cannot put that toothpaste back in the tube.

That about sums it up.

This is why they need the illegal vote and children of 15 or older voting. They know their time is almost up.

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 11, 2019, 10:57:44 AM
Let's summarize this entire conversation. The democrats are losing long time dependable supporters. They panicked to add to their numbers, including Marxists. It worked. Now they cannot put that toothpaste back in the tube.

That's pretty much it.  It actually makes me think of this:

She's a puppet. There is no other explanation. They needed someone they can manipulate. She is immature, inarticulate and not very bright. Their problem is she has a tremendous ego and is going to continue to go off script. She will derail the movement.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 11, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
She's a puppet. There is no other explanation. They needed someone they can manipulate. She is immature, inarticulate and not very bright. Their problem is she has a tremendous ego and is going to continue to go off script. She will derail the movement.

  AOC and  Pelosi

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 11, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
She's a puppet. There is no other explanation. They needed someone they can manipulate. She is immature, inarticulate and not very bright. Their problem is she has a tremendous ego and is going to continue to go off script. She will derail the movement.

Yep, and the Daily Caller followed the money.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/10/dark-money-fusion-steele-soros/

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 11, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
She's a puppet. There is no other explanation. They needed someone they can manipulate. She is immature, inarticulate and not very bright. Their problem is she has a tremendous ego and is going to continue to go off script. She will derail the movement.

But I keep asking myself, if they have pelosi as speaker, why would they need a puppet?