What a Great Idea!!!

Australia finalised plans on Tuesday to make Facebook Inc and Google pay its media outlets for news content, a world-first move aimed at protecting independent journalism that has been strongly opposed by the internet giants.


Under laws to go to parliament this week, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the Big Tech firms must negotiate payments for content that appears on their platforms with local publishers and broadcasters. If they can't strike a deal, a government-appointed arbitrator will decide for them.

"This is a huge reform, this is a world first, and the world is watching what happens here in Australia," Frydenberg told reporters in the capital Canberra.

"Our legislation will help ensure that the rules of the digital world mirror the rules of the physical world ... and ultimately sustain our media landscape."

The law amounts to the strongest check of the tech giants' market power globally, and follows three years of inquiry and consultation, ultimately spilling into a public row in August when the U.S. companies warned it may stop them offering their services in Australia.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-media-regulator/australia-to-make-facebook-google-pay-news-outlets-for-content-iduskbn28i0e3

Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 07:08:17 AM
What a Great Idea!!!

Australia finalised plans on Tuesday to make Facebook Inc and Google pay its media outlets for news content, a world-first move aimed at protecting independent journalism that has been strongly opposed by the internet giants.


Under laws to go to parliament this week, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the Big Tech firms must negotiate payments for content that appears on their platforms with local publishers and broadcasters. If they can't strike a deal, a government-appointed arbitrator will decide for them.

"This is a huge reform, this is a world first, and the world is watching what happens here in Australia," Frydenberg told reporters in the capital Canberra.

"Our legislation will help ensure that the rules of the digital world mirror the rules of the physical world ... and ultimately sustain our media landscape."

The law amounts to the strongest check of the tech giants' market power globally, and follows three years of inquiry and consultation, ultimately spilling into a public row in August when the U.S. companies warned it may stop them offering their services in Australia.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-media-regulator/australia-to-make-facebook-google-pay-news-outlets-for-content-iduskbn28i0e3

This doesn't sound bad but I have questions.

If the media outlet has a Facebook page, and posts a link to their story, would Facebook have to pay them?

If a consumer posts a link to their story, would Facebook have to pay them?

With Google, if I search for "trump" and click on the first news article that pops up, does that mean Google has to pay them?



"Google said in October it plans to pay $1 billion to publishers globally for their news over the next three years.

The new product called Google News Showcase will launch first in Germany, where it has signed up German newspapers including Der Spiegel, Stern, Die Zeit, and in Brazil with Folha de S.Paulo, Band and Infobae.

Google last month said it had also signed copyright agreements with six French newspapers and magazines, including national dailies Le Monde and Le Figaro."




Intelligently, Google seems to be getting ahead of it.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 07:22:06 AM
This doesn't sound bad but I have questions.

If the media outlet has a Facebook page, and posts a link to their story, would Facebook have to pay them?

, nope, as long as they follow copyright laws...

QuoteIf a consumer posts a link to their story, would Facebook have to pay them?

Again, no, unless they post the article in its entirety.

QuoteWith Google, if I search for "trump" and click on the first news article that pops up, does that mean Google has to pay them?

Same laws still apply, so no, it's only a reference.

Quote"Google said in October it plans to pay $1 billion to publishers globally for their news over the next three years.

The new product called Google News Showcase will launch first in Germany, where it has signed up German newspapers including Der Spiegel, Stern, Die Zeit, and in Brazil with Folha de S.Paulo, Band and Infobae.

Google last month said it had also signed copyright agreements with six French newspapers and magazines, including national dailies Le Monde and Le Figaro."

Intelligently, Google seems to be getting ahead of it.

Now, show me where goog made the same agreement with Australia, then you'd have made a point....

Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 07:41:05 AM
, nope, as long as they follow copyright laws...
Again, no, unless they post the article in its entirety.
Same laws still apply, so no, it's only a reference.


Now, show me where goog made the same agreement with Australia, then you'd have made a point....

Are Google and Facebook republishing entire articles? If so, this would make much more sense.

And, to my point, seeing what's happening in Australia, Google is getting ahead of it in other jurisdictions.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 07:44:24 AM
Are Google and Facebook republishing entire articles? If so, this would make much more sense.

Yep, though I can't speak on what they've done because I don't use either site.

QuoteAnd, to my point, seeing what's happening in Australia, Google is getting ahead of it in other jurisdictions.

Then they have an expensive hill to climb in Australia. I don't doubt they'll come to some form of agreement, after all, Goog can afford to pay 100 times what they agreed to in the EU.