But Trump not only castrated their economy, but he exposed just how ugly the commie whore really is.
I'm telling you folks, Trump could kill off the CCP if he decides to, he has the power.
Right now, the Commies are panicking because they know it as well.

Will Trump let them survive? They have to give up 90% of what they do to survive, and that would be literally changing everything.
Think of this video as a summary of all of the main cities in China. Rural China is still alive and functioning without the CCP.

Did you know it was this bad, did you care?

Seriously, no one has an opinion on tariffs, CCP trying to create the illusion they have a bigger and better Navy than the US, that their economy isn't in trouble?

Do you seriously think the CCP will survive 5 years? They think they can outlast Trump's term.

Will Trump let them up for air?

Have seen other's claims, don't really care.

Quote from: Rick on April 17, 2025, 02:53:47 PMHave seen other's claims, don't really care.

About what, specifically?

How bad it supposedly is there. Are they eating, are they warm.

I don't know

Watching, All seem so 3D chess.

Worried about family, and wife.

Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2025, 03:12:05 PMAbout what, specifically?

How bad it supposedly is there. Are they eating, are they warm.

I don't know

Watching, All seem so 3D chess.

Worried about family, and wife.

Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2025, 01:00:32 PMSeriously, no one has an opinion on tariffs, CCP trying to create the illusion they have a bigger and better Navy than the US, that their economy isn't in trouble?

Do you seriously think the CCP will survive 5 years? They think they can outlast Trump's term.

Will Trump let them up for air?

Got to love the fact that the CCP is trying to sell that they are all powerful, more powerful than anyone else, while also trying to blame all their economic problems on another country. The part of the video I like best is where it states many of the people want Trump to succeed in order to get government reform. What the video did not explain, ( did not watch the last couple minutes), these tariffs are only the last bullet to China's economy. They were already on their way down. Socialism does not work, even when you control everything. Even if the tariffs are removed, that downward fall has already gathered speed, it won't slow down.

Quote from: Rick on April 17, 2025, 07:54:34 PMHow bad it supposedly is there. Are they eating, are they warm.

I don't know

Watching, All seem so 3D chess.

Worried about family, and wife.

Let's just say, cheap food isn't cheap anymore, jobs are no longer plentiful, and a degree is worthless in their economy. Industry is no longer hiring.
With tariffs in place, orders were canceled midstream, people were laid off on the spot. the CCP economy was built on the idea that the CCP controlled the supply line, which was true to a point, which made them invulnerable, and on the surface, it looked that way.
But after all that's happened here with TEA/MAGA, and Trump, we killed the NWO communist WEF takeover.
China's Belt and Road turned out to be a Whip And slave Scheme. They would promise prosperity, then sucker nations into buying their contract, knowing very well the country would never be able to pay off the debt.
The world wanted them stopped.

The CCP is known for this globally, they lie in every venture they undertake, it's the Mao tradition.
There's a lot of selfish hoarding going on with their Boomer generation. Like here, where we remember a better time culturally in the 50s and 60s, the Chinese remember brutal times of have-nots, where it was the people against the govt, they're known as "Aunties" now, kind of a Karen mentality, but in groups of 12 to 100 or more.
They are known to raid crops and strip fields clean. There's a video of a cruise line shutting down when a shit load of these people hit the buffet line.
It was hard to find, it seems youtube is hiding it, but here it is.


Thing is, this kind of culture cannot survive; that's why I say the CCP has already lost, they are no longer a threat to the global economy, and why the EU is throwing such a fit over Ukraine, it was depending on the CCP's success.
Once Zelenskyy signs the mineral agreement, their war on Russia should end, the EU will sit down and STFU, and things will suddenly look a whole lot better. Assuming Zelenskyy doesn't pull another boneheaded move which he's known to do.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250303-zelensky-says-ukraine-ready-to-sign-minerals-deal-with-united-states

Quote from: Possum on April 18, 2025, 04:02:53 AMGot to love the fact that the CCP is trying to sell that they are all powerful, more powerful than anyone else, while also trying to blame all their economic problems on another country. The part of the video I like best is where it states many of the people want Trump to succeed in order to get government reform. What the video did not explain, ( did not watch the last couple minutes), these tariffs are only the last bullet to China's economy. They were already on their way down. Socialism does not work, even when you control everything. Even if the tariffs are removed, that downward fall has already gathered speed, it won't slow down.

Excellent observation!    

It's true, the world was getting tired of their cheap shit and lying business deals, deals they never respect the trade laws, and no court was willing to deal with the mess, mostly due to payoffs and threats.
Their facade fell off, and the world finds the CCP business model disgusting, the exact opposite of the Western model.

Aw, man, there were two more paragraphs in that reply, but suffice it to say, the CCP collapse isn't far behind.
It's all in Trump's hands whether he allows Xi to survive or not.

Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2025, 06:33:32 AMAw, man, there were two more paragraphs in that reply, but suffice it to say, the CCP collapse isn't far behind.
It's all in Trump's hands whether he allows Xi to survive or not.

IMHO, but could be just a wild ass guess, Wi can not survive. Even if Trump lets him off the hook, he can only let Wi off the hook for the pressure HE put on. Keeping face is everything in China. If Trump lets him off the hook, he goes down because everyone will know Trump let him off the hook. Any gains would be credited to Trump, behind closed doors, but Trump would still get the credit. Everyone would know Trump threw the lifeline.  If Trump does not let him off the hook, he goes down because the system will not work. Or as communist think, because the leader was weak. There is a better way to put this, but my hands are coated with oil and just saw the damage to the keyboard.

Quote from: Possum on April 18, 2025, 12:42:44 PMIMHO, but could be just a wild ass guess, Wi can not survive. Even if Trump lets him off the hook, he can only let Wi off the hook for the pressure HE put on. Keeping face is everything in China. If Trump lets him off the hook, he goes down because everyone will know Trump let him off the hook. Any gains would be credited to Trump, behind closed doors, but Trump would still get the credit. Everyone would know Trump threw the lifeline.  If Trump does not let him off the hook, he goes down because the system will not work. Or as communist think, because the leader was weak. There is a better way to put this, but my hands are coated with oil and just saw the damage to the keyboard.

No doubt... He's dictator for life... right until they throw him off the side of the Great Wall...

Quote from: Possum on April 18, 2025, 12:42:44 PMIMHO, but could be just a wild ass guess, Wi can not survive. Even if Trump lets him off the hook, he can only let Wi off the hook for the pressure HE put on. Keeping face is everything in China. If Trump lets him off the hook, he goes down because everyone will know Trump let him off the hook. Any gains would be credited to Trump, behind closed doors, but Trump would still get the credit. Everyone would know Trump threw the lifeline.  If Trump does not let him off the hook, he goes down because the system will not work. Or as communist think, because the leader was weak. There is a better way to put this, but my hands are coated with oil and just saw the damage to the keyboard.

BINGO! He's screwed no matter what happens. Trump set a trap, and Xi fell for it by getting into a trade war instead of negotiating.
This is why I believe it's the end of the CCP; the party will implode, they'll try forcing industry to bail them out, but they stupidly just devalued their own currency.
Then, the people will revolt, but it won't be overnight; it will start slowly and then snowball.

The commies entire industry was built out of a house of cards on a beach at low tide with a storm coming.
I don't see any way the party can survive. When it all happens is anyone's best guess, but it is happening.

It's Over! Trade War Escalation Could Lead to Chinese Stocks Delisting, Hitting the CCP Hard