God Bless Mike Lindell. Unreal.
They caught this data real-time during the election. If someone has an embedable video, please post it. I'll post more on this...
https://home.frankspeech.com/tv/video/mike-lindell-presents-absolutely-9-0
https://tv.gab.com/channel/realmikelindell/view/mike-lindell-presents-absolutely-9-0-60b9218b9fa5380df4d3b5cc
Folks, Trump is seriously coming back. There's no way around it.
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 11:54:01 AMFolks, Trump is seriously coming back. There's no way around it.
And still people think we're nuts for even suggesting it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh yes, we will pull up the old posts and ridicule them. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 12:15:06 PMAnd still people think we're nuts for even suggesting it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh yes, we will pull up the old posts and ridicule them. :biggrin:
Oh yes, yes we will.
I'm banging out an article real quick on this. It's game over.
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 12:16:52 PMOh yes, yes we will.
I'm banging out an article real quick on this. It's game over.
Yep, and the Dims know it, that's why they're in literal meltdown panic mode. Fuglosi knows she's looking at prison time.
I believe the numbers are somewhere in the area of....
President Trump 103 million votes
Joe Biden 37 million votes
With President Trump taking 49 out of the 50 states.
Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 12:22:18 PMYep, and the Dims know it, that's why they're in literal meltdown panic mode. Fuglosi knows she's looking at prison time.
This is a done deal. What happened today with Lindell's video is like those stories when someone is shot with a stray bullet and didn't know it until later...
They just got hit and are wondering why they have a pain in the back of their head.
Quote from: Bronx on June 03, 2021, 12:29:44 PMI believe the numbers are somewhere in the area of....
President Trump 103 million votes
Joe Biden 37 million votes
With President Trump taking 49 out of the 50 states.
Those are what I think they are too...
Is there a court date set yet??? If Trump does get back in there's going to be heads rolling down the steps at the white house! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 01:25:27 PMIs there a court date set yet??? If Trump does get back in there's going to be heads rolling down the steps at the white house! :thumbsup:
I have not yet heard of a court date.
This is just gobbledygook that makes no intelligent sense. Hand counts were done and if the ridiculous numbers mentioned in this video were true that would stand out loud and clear. And it does not. Anyone who has done data dumps would know quickly these guys are playing games. If this goes farther they will be laughed out of the room. And can someone explain why the morons in Arizona are still counting? Children under ten could do a better and faster count.
'Assessing the Various Claims in Mike Lindell's 'Absolute Proof''
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/assessing-the-various-claims-in-mike
And think about this for a moment Trump actually got more votes this election than 2016. Americans in 2016 thought there is no way Trump could win and they stayed home. This time another four years of 'the Donald' pushed everyone out. That is why republicans now want to stop democracy and voting. Wake up people.
'Trump Got 10 Million More Votes This Election. Where Did They Come From?'
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/11/10176029/who-voted-for-trump-2020-vs-2016
Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 01:39:00 PMThis is just gobbledygook that makes no intelligent sense. Hand counts were done and if the ridiculous numbers mentioned in this video were true that would stand out loud and clear. And it does not. Anyone who has done data dumps would know quickly these guys are playing games. If this goes farther they will be laughed out of the room. And can someone explain why the morons in Arizona are still counting? Children under ten could do a better and faster count.
'Assessing the Various Claims in Mike Lindell's 'Absolute Proof''
And think about this for a moment Trump actually got more votes this election than 2016. Americans in 2016 thought there is no way Trump could win and they stayed home. This time another four years of 'the Donald' pushed everyone out. That is why republicans now want to stop democracy and voting. Wake up people.
'Trump Got 10 Million More Votes This Election. Where Did They Come From?'
Are you disputing the evidence they have?
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 01:27:09 PMI have not yet heard of a court date.
This is so unprecedented it's hard to imagine an election being overturned even with this proof. :blink:
Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 01:39:00 PMThis is just gobbledygook that makes no intelligent sense.
Yes it does. Lindell and his team have the live packet captures. Another crime has been exposed.
QuoteHand counts were done
Recounting fraudulent data doesn't really make much sense, unless you're not very bright.
Quoteand if the ridiculous numbers mentioned in this video were true that would stand out loud and clear.
They are true, and they do stand out.
QuoteAnd it does not.
Yes it does.
QuoteAnyone who has done data dumps would know quickly these guys are playing games. If this goes farther they will be laughed out of the room. And can someone explain why the morons in Arizona are still counting? Children under ten could do a better and faster count.
This isn't a "count". You really are lost, aren't you?
QuoteAnd think about this for a moment Trump actually got more votes this election than 2016.
He got more than any president in history.
QuoteAmericans in 2016 thought there is no way Trump could win and they stayed home. This time another four years of 'the Donald' pushed everyone out. That is why republicans now want to stop democracy and voting. Wake up people.
The American people turned out and Trump won all 50 states. This is why the audits are important.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 01:46:50 PMThis is so unprecedented it's hard to imagine an election being overturned even with this proof. :blink:
Why?
Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 01:39:00 PM'Trump Got 10 Million More Votes This Election. Where Did They Come From?'
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/11/10176029/who-voted-for-trump-2020-vs-2016
Trump was able to win people over, even though he was a polarizing figure mainly due to demonizing by the MSM. The real question is how in the hell did a bumbling idiot like Xiden get 80 million votes, I think Lindell has the answer! :thumbup:
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 01:48:30 PMWhy?
Can you think of a time when an American election has been overturned? Believe me I hope that it does get overturned, Biden is the all time worst.
Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 01:39:00 PMThis is just gobbledygook that makes no intelligent sense. Hand counts were done and if the ridiculous numbers mentioned in this video were true that would stand out loud and clear. And it does not. Anyone who has done data dumps would know quickly these guys are playing games. If this goes farther they will be laughed out of the room. And can someone explain why the morons in Arizona are still counting? Children under ten could do a better and faster count.
'Assessing the Various Claims in Mike Lindell's 'Absolute Proof''
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/assessing-the-various-claims-in-mike
And think about this for a moment Trump actually got more votes this election than 2016. Americans in 2016 thought there is no way Trump could win and they stayed home. This time another four years of 'the Donald' pushed everyone out. That is why republicans now want to stop democracy and voting. Wake up people.
'Trump Got 10 Million More Votes This Election. Where Did They Come From?'
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/11/10176029/who-voted-for-trump-2020-vs-2016
You are an effing lemming.
You, being a Dumbocrat, KNOW this bunch is corrupt and dishonest. You KNOW this election was stolen. Being a good lemming, you MUST dispute the evidence. SO, as a corrupt little lemming does, you double down on Stupid. Look, Hoss, your side is a bunch of evil, cheating, corrupt liars. You, being the good lemming, are just as complicit as anyone.
The problem is that you cannot erase or lie this evidence into non existence. It is HERE. If it is not taken seriously, then Civil War must ensue shortly.
There is no way on God's Green Earth that Hiden Biden got over half the votes. He's a Buffoon. He's a Crook. He's a Pervert. He's a habitual Liar.
Now, before you say it, of course it is true that the election was stolen.
You either know that, and choose to be corrupt, or you are unaware and the Stupidest person on this planet.
Which are you? Corrupt, or Stupid?
Quote from: tiny1 on June 03, 2021, 01:56:11 PMYou are an effing lemming.
You, being a Dumbocrat, KNOW this bunch is corrupt and dishonest. You KNOW this election was stolen. Being a good lemming, you MUST dispute the evidence. SO, as a corrupt little lemming does, you double down on Stupid. Look, Hoss, your side is a bunch of evil, cheating, corrupt liars. You, being the good lemming, are just as complicit as anyone.
The problem is that you cannot erase or lie this evidence into non existence. It is HERE. If it is not taken seriously, then Civil War must ensue shortly.
There is no way on God's Green Earth that Hiden Biden got over half the votes. He's a Buffoon. He's a Crook. He's a Pervert. He's a habitual Liar.
Now, before you say it, of course it is true that the election was stolen.
You either know that, and choose to be corrupt, or you are unaware and the Stupidest person on this planet.
Which are you? Corrupt, or Stupid?
He's a brainwashed commie. I thought Walks got the PM to boot his ass, but it would appear not yet.
He'll be gone by tomorrowe.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 01:46:50 PMThis is so unprecedented it's hard to imagine an election being overturned even with this proof. :blink:
That's because you got used to a GOP that sold us out every chance they got, and a DNC Hell bent on destroying the country.
That is all changing fast and both party's packed full of leftists are shitting rocks.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 01:54:12 PMCan you think of a time when an American election has been overturned? Believe me I hope that it does get overturned, Biden is the all time worst.
I would suggest you do some minimal research on elections that have been overturned.
Who knows... you might even like it!
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 02:09:27 PMI would suggest you do some minimal research on elections that have been overturned.
Who knows... you might even like it!
That's the thing, we have overturned elections where the Dims cheated, and when all was said and done, their media avoided the story like the plague.
Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 02:13:53 PMThat's the thing, we have overturned elections where the Dims cheated, and when all was said and done, their media avoided the story like the plague.
I think he's Canadian too.
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 02:16:13 PMI think he's Canadian too.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have no idea. But that was funny,
I'm finding results for contested U.S. elections, no results for "overturned" elections though.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 02:20:24 PMI'm finding results for contested U.S. elections, no results for "overturned" elections though.
Look harder.
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 02:27:41 PMLook harder.
Like I said, there have been contested US elections on resulting the civil war but none overturned. Maybe you could give me a hint? :smile:
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 02:54:53 PMLike I said, there have been contested US elections on resulting the civil war but none overturned. Maybe you could give me a hint? :smile:
If I find one and post it, you get a time out. Go ahead and look harder. I'm not sure why you Canadians always need help with the easiest things.
Damn Canadians. You have to re-train them every five minutes.
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 03:11:59 PMIf I find one and post it, you get a time out. Go ahead and look harder. I'm not sure why you Canadians always need help with the easiest things.
Damn Canadians. You have to re-train them every five minutes.
I'm a Minnesooootain, we get that a lot! :blush:
https://conservativehardliner.com/game-over-mike-lindells-9-0-evidence-kill-shot
QuoteFolks like myself have said this entire time that there's no way they're saying they have the evidence if they really don't. They really do, and Lindell proved it today. What evidence do they have?
Remember his claim that they watched the votes changed by foreign actors in real time? During his video today, his cyber guy dumped output of their packet captures to the screen to prove they have it.
A data packet lives and travels through electricity and light (fiber) from the originating computer to its destination. When the journey is complete, electricity and light don't just hang around for someone to pick it up and inspect like a bloody knife. After the packet makes his journey across the internet, it's as if he never existed.
The remanence of that packet and its journey are recorded in log files, caches, and other such mediums that proves it happened. Those are evidence, but a different kind of evidence because they save data after the packet has lived his life and made his journey.
The evidence Lindell has is a "snapshot" of the data packets as they looked during travel. Within these snapshots is a "picture" of the juicy data that was stuffed into these packets. The data was encrypted, but Lindell's guys decrypted it and were able to figure out what packets were carrying what data to what voting machines.
How did Lindell's team get access to watch and capture this data live on election night? Gosh, it's almost as if President Trump knew this was going to happen and authorized it.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 02:20:24 PMI'm finding results for contested U.S. elections, no results for "overturned" elections though.
Ya but once this evidence gets into the courts the election will again be contested, will it not? Like after the states rescind their certification? They were not legally allowed to certify the election until all issues were gone thru yet they did, ignoring the contesting parties. So it seems reasonable that they can open the entire process back up again with proof that the process wasnt followed correctly in the first place. Thats just my opinion, tho it seems to be where this is going.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 03, 2021, 02:54:53 PMLike I said, there have been contested US elections on resulting the civil war but none overturned. Maybe you could give me a hint? :smile:
I did a cursory search, 3 seconds and came up with this.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/
Quote from: T Hunt on June 03, 2021, 04:31:49 PMYa but once this evidence gets into the courts the election will again be contested, will it not? Like after the states rescind their certification? They were not legally allowed to certify the election until all issues were gone thru yet they did, ignoring the contesting parties. So it seems reasonable that they can open the entire process back up again with proof that the process wasnt followed correctly in the first place. Thats just my opinion, tho it seems to be where this is going.
I sure hope so! :thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 05:13:47 PMI did a cursory search, 3 seconds and came up with this.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/
Okay cool, I was searching for a "presidential" election. The worst if found was when the south basically said "not my president" when Lincoln was elected setting off the civil war, remind you of anything? Not my president was all the left was screeching for four years! I hope they get four more! :lol: :thumbsup:
I spent 15 years of my career in fraud and cybercrime detection and defense for internet companies and banks. The IPs usually do not lie. I am surprised that the perpetrators failed to use IP masking capabilities. Of course, good guys can use proxy-piercing technology to thwart it. Anyway, you cannot argue against the digital data that you have, only how it is interpreted.
When is all these data going to be turned over to the FBI for a real investigation? That's where this needs to go. The Supreme Court won't even take this case. It will need to go through the lower courts first.
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 04:43:15 AMI spent 15 years of my career in fraud and cybercrime detection and defense for internet companies and banks. The IPs usually do not lie. I am surprised that the perpetrators failed to use IP masking capabilities. Of course, good guys can use proxy-piercing technology to thwart it. Anyway, you cannot argue against the digital data that you have, only how it is interpreted.
When is all these data going to be turned over to the FBI for a real investigation? That's where this needs to go. The Supreme Court won't even take this case. It will need to go through the lower courts first.
FBI, are you serious? :biggrin:
I know, but John Roberts? Are you serious? :huh:
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 04:43:15 AMI spent 15 years of my career in fraud and cybercrime detection and defense for internet companies and banks. The IPs usually do not lie. I am surprised that the perpetrators failed to use IP masking capabilities. Of course, good guys can use proxy-piercing technology to thwart it. Anyway, you cannot argue against the digital data that you have, only how it is interpreted.
I think they (the good guys) were able to gain access to those proxy machines in China and follow it from there, presumably most of it back to here...
I wonder where they intercepted these packets... how were they already set up?
Oh the goodies yet to come...
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 04:49:36 AMI know, but John Roberts? Are you serious? :huh:
I never said anything of the sort. I already stated, SCOTUS has no right to insert itself in the matter.
If there is any laws to be taken into consideration, Congress will have to act.
But they won't, this entire fiasco is going to blow up in the Dims faces hard once the evidence is released, and the people will be demanding Trump return to his Rightful place in the WH.
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 04:43:15 AMI spent 15 years of my career in fraud and cybercrime detection and defense for internet companies and banks. The IPs usually do not lie. I am surprised that the perpetrators failed to use IP masking capabilities. Of course, good guys can use proxy-piercing technology to thwart it. Anyway, you cannot argue against the digital data that you have, only how it is interpreted.
When is all these data going to be turned over to the FBI for a real investigation? That's where this needs to go. The Supreme Court won't even take this case. It will need to go through the lower courts first.
I hope the FBI doesnt see any of this. I hope no one in government gets this as they are all the enemy. The government CANNOT fix the government.
Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 05:13:47 PMI did a cursory search, 3 seconds and came up with this.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/
That's 3 seconds more than Mimsy did...
(https://media.8kun.top/file_store/a707474d76db8e5eeb827ca4da764e2b6864c5e5e436b2fa9235394d5d409bcd.jpg)
Nevada has apparently submitted evidence to the FBI. The GOP Chair of NV states so in this video:
https://rumble.com/vhzebb-nev.-gop-fights-to-audit-2020-election.html
It's coming, folks.
Quote from: Solar on June 04, 2021, 04:56:38 AMI never said anything of the sort. I already stated, SCOTUS has no right to insert itself in the matter.
If there is any laws to be taken into consideration, Congress will have to act.
But they won't, this entire fiasco is going to blow up in the Dims faces hard once the evidence is released, and the people will be demanding Trump return to his Rightful place in the WH.
I think this'll have to start out as an investigation. The Supremes probably won't see anything until that is completed and we get to the point where the Electoral College is becoming unhinged from the results of the audits and public pressure.
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 04:56:02 AMI think they (the good guys) were able to gain access to those proxy machines in China and follow it from there, presumably most of it back to here...
I wonder where they intercepted these packets... how were they already set up?
Oh the goodies yet to come...
Usually, these sign-in technologies can pierce proxies so there's no need to gain access to the machines of origin. I might have to watch this Lindell video again and see if he explains how they acquired these IPs.
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 07:38:29 AMNevada has apparently submitted evidence to the FBI. The GOP Chair of NV states so in this video:
https://rumble.com/vhzebb-nev.-gop-fights-to-audit-2020-election.html
It's coming, folks.
A "Republican" Secretary of State fighting against the audit... If not for Republicans, this thing would have been long over.
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 07:42:07 AMUsually, these sign-in technologies can pierce proxies so there's no need to gain access to the machines of origin. I might have to watch this Lindell video again and see if he explains how they acquired these IPs.
They have them through the packet captures... which is what I'm curious about... where were they intercepting this traffic?
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 07:38:29 AMNevada has apparently submitted evidence to the FBI. The GOP Chair of NV states so in this video:
https://rumble.com/vhzebb-nev.-gop-fights-to-audit-2020-election.html
It's coming, folks.
The FBI isnt going to touch this with a ten foot pole. They helped steal the election, they arent going to help catch themselves.
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 07:48:38 AMThey have them through the packet captures... which is what I'm curious about... where were they intercepting this traffic?
My educated guess is that trumps people were monitoring the election and using those supercomputers like the kraken to capture it all . Especially since we all know trump saw this election coup coming from a mile away.
Quote from: T Hunt on June 04, 2021, 08:00:01 AMMy educated guess is that trumps people were monitoring the election and using those supercomputers like the kraken to capture it all . Especially since we all know trump saw this election coup coming from a mile away.
Totally... I just can't wait to see how all of this went down. What specific orders, who, when, etc.
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 07:15:38 AMThat's 3 seconds more than Mimsy did...
Oh, yeah that. I just used words, not images. :laugh:
Quote from: TD on June 04, 2021, 07:39:46 AMI think this'll have to start out as an investigation. The Supremes probably won't see anything until that is completed and we get to the point where the Electoral College is becoming unhinged from the results of the audits and public pressure.
Nah, you don't send in MS-13 gang members to investigate the MS-13 for corruption.
Quote from: Solar on June 04, 2021, 10:02:41 AMNah, you don't send in MS-13 gang members to investigate the MS-13 for corruption.
....Military investigation
Quote from: Sauce on June 04, 2021, 11:16:01 AM....Military investigation
That's where this is headed. :thumbsup:
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 07:15:38 AMThat's 3 seconds more than Mimsy did...
I was searching for presidential elections that were OVERTURNED Not contested, or some local city counsel election.
Quote from: Mimsy on June 04, 2021, 12:33:32 PMI was searching for presidential elections that were OVERTURNED Not contested, or some local city counsel election.
No worries. I'm just glad you guys have electricity up there.
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 12:34:24 PMNo worries. I'm just glad you guys have electricity up there.
Our Igloos have indoor plumbing as well! :biggrin:
Quote from: Mimsy on June 04, 2021, 12:56:57 PMOur Igloos have indoor plumbing as well! :biggrin:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Does anyone here believe that the election could be overturned without causing a civil war?
Quote from: taxed on June 03, 2021, 11:11:25 AMGod Bless Mike Lindell. Unreal.
They caught this data real-time during the election. If someone has an embedable video, please post it. I'll post more on this...
https://home.frankspeech.com/tv/video/mike-lindell-presents-absolutely-9-0
https://tv.gab.com/channel/realmikelindell/view/mike-lindell-presents-absolutely-9-0-60b9218b9fa5380df4d3b5cc
I thought voting machines were offline.
If the paper ballot count didn't match the count on the voting machine, wouldn't that be immediately obvious?
Quote from: sataspa on June 04, 2021, 08:51:27 PMDoes anyone here believe that the election could be overturned without causing a civil war?
A civil war between who?
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 03:41:08 AMI thought voting machines were offline.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It's quite a predicament for them...
QuoteIf the paper ballot count didn't match the count on the voting machine, wouldn't that be immediately obvious?
Yup, and it is.
Quote from: sataspa on June 04, 2021, 08:51:27 PMDoes anyone here believe that the election could be overturned without causing a civil war?
Of course, libs may be gullible and stupid, but once they see they've been lied to, they'll be calling for party heads.
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 03:41:08 AMI thought voting machines were offline.
If the paper ballot count didn't match the count on the voting machine, wouldn't that be immediately obvious?
:lol:
I take it your not read posts on this board. You are just flinging poo just to see if anything will stick.
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 03:41:08 AMI thought voting machines were offline.
That was a DNC/media lie, and they've been caught.
QuoteIf the paper ballot count didn't match the count on the voting machine, wouldn't that be immediately obvious?
Yes, but it goes further, way to many thousands of these so called ballots were fraudulent.
Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2021, 05:01:16 AMOf course, libs may be gullible and stupid, but once they see they've been lied to, they'll be calling for party heads.
I don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
Quote from a woke psychiatrist in another discussion here:
Quote"It was also a public service," she said. "I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a f–king favor."
See what I mean?
Quote from: sataspa on June 04, 2021, 08:51:27 PMDoes anyone here believe that the election could be overturned without causing a civil war?
I dont see how it would start a real civil war since the vast majority voted trump anyways.
I would be more likely to expect a civil war if we DONT set the election strait.
Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2021, 07:55:32 AMI dont see how it would start a real civil war since the vast majority voted trump anyways.
I would be more likely to expect a civil war if we DONT set the election strait.
This.
Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2021, 07:55:32 AMI dont see how it would start a real civil war since the vast majority voted trump anyways.
I would be more likely to expect a civil war if we DONT set the election strait.
Almost nobody I know here in NJ believes that, and I don't believe that anything we say will convince them.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
Yes I see what you mean, (Ive meant mexi-libbies who want a war so they can take back all the land the white man took from them), and yes those types do exist. But they only make up a certain percentage of the left, generally the young ones.
But there are also the older ones, the college profs, and the heads of the liberal institutions, the CEOs of liberal corporations, and none of them will dare risk their livlihoods to do anything serious. I expect many of these people will just be passive aggressive the rest of their lives to whomever they see as their enemies.
Then there are the sheep, people like my grandma who MIGHT only vote dem because they still trust the MSM and watch too much of it. They are sheep who conform to the flock, blades of grass who bend in the wind. Tim pool might be an example of this, tho he did vote trump. But these people may complain but wont do anything.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won.
Thankfully there's not that many of them. We only care about the overwhelming majority of Trump voters. Dem voters are irrelevant.
QuoteMaybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
Again, small minority.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:52:45 AMQuote from a woke psychiatrist in another discussion here:
See what I mean?
As for the crazies, trump spent last summer covertly arresting many of the leaders of orgs like BLM and cutting off their funding. And what he didnt get done, he got intel on so that when he does take back the WH he will be ready for those orgs to try a pathetic revolt, but it will fizzle and die fast, and be only in blue cities anyways.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:00:53 AMAlmost nobody I know here in NJ believes that, and I don't believe that anything we say will convince them.
But thats what the facts and evidence say, and since those who dont believe it are in the minority I expect they may get a few murders in and riot some in blue cities but trump will be ready and squash it fast.
It is the thing im looking forward to the most honestly, watching the news be forced to cover these screaming libbies as the police (maybe some national guard) either arrest them or shoot them.
As for the NG, trump may just nip this in the bud and deploy national guard to all the blue cities right away to keep any real riots from developing, then all the lefts anger will be taken out on professional military instead of civilians.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
I would also like to see you answer Taxed's question on who will this civil war be between? Surly you are not indicating that BLM, and might as well throw antifa in with that, will be fighting in a civil war? They only demonstrate in liberal safe zones where they can burn and steal all they want and the local government talks about de-funding the police. Do you think they are willing to die for their cause? Can you show me where they even back Biden?
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:52:45 AMQuote from a woke psychiatrist in another discussion here:
See what I mean?
So?
Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:20:13 AMThankfully there's not that many of them. We only care about the overwhelming majority of Trump voters. Dem voters are irrelevant.
Again, small minority.
Maybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant, and maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted, but I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power. I also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:00:53 AMAlmost nobody I know here in NJ believes that, and I don't believe that anything we say will convince them.
Looks like they really hate him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMovNDyayoU
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:32:28 AMMaybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant,
Trump won New Jersey.
Quoteand maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted,
You can be allowed to vote and be allowed, but only if you're legal, breathing, a citizen in New Jersey, etc.
Quotebut I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power.
That's where we differ. I don't fear the anti-American, Marxist majority. Trump won all 50 states, and won big. Why would I have fear of that?
QuoteI also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?
Who cares about the MSM? Trump won big in 2016, and won even bigger in 2020, despite the MSM.
They are irrelevant.
Quote from: Possum on June 05, 2021, 08:29:02 AMI would also like to see you answer Taxed's question on who will this civil war be between? Surly you are not indicating that BLM, and might as well throw antifa in with that, will be fighting in a civil war? They only demonstrate in liberal safe zones where they can burn and steal all they want and the local government talks about de-funding the police. Do you think they are willing to die for their cause? Can you show me where they even back Biden?
You think they will just quietly accept the person that the MSM has convinced them is the American antiChrist being reinstated against their will? Maybe, but from what I am seeing and hearing from the people around me, I'm not so sure. I think we should be bracing for a widespread violent backlash. Maybe that's what's needed though, a purge of the woke and the progressives.
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Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:38:01 AMTrump won New Jersey.
You can be allowed to vote and be allowed, but only if you're legal, breathing, a citizen in New Jersey, etc.
That's where we differ. I don't fear the anti-American, Marxist majority. Trump won all 50 states, and won big. Why would I have fear of that?
Who cares about the MSM? Trump won big in 2016, and won even bigger in 2020, despite the MSM.
They are irrelevant.
I must live in some kind of a bubble because nobody I know here in NJ believes that Trump won NJ. But that's why I sought you guys out, to fortify me against the crazed masses.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:44:00 AMI must live in some kind of a bubble because nobody I know here in NJ believes that Trump won NJ. But that's why I sought you guys out, to fortify me against the crazed masses.
It's OK... this will be a massive red-pill event for the country overall because it's so bad that it's hard for people to believe.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:32:28 AMMaybe you are right when you say that any vote against Trump is irrelevant, and maybe that is why they shouldn't be allowed or counted, but I don't see any indication here that the people who voted that way agree with you. I fear that we underestimate the backlash against any attempt to restore Trump to power. I also wonder how it is that message can be brought to those people in such a way that they will accept it. The MSM will not deliver that message, so who will? Does it even matter anymore? Or do we just reinstate Trump and then deal with whatever follows?
I guarantee trump has a plan and has known this situation was coming years ago.
As to who will deliver the message, trump will be launching his own social media to get around big tech censorship and will again be speaking direct to the people.
Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 08:48:11 AMIt's OK... this will be a massive red-pill event for the country overall because it's so bad that it's hard for people to believe.
You wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:39:09 AMYou think they will just quietly accept the person that the MSM has convinced them is the American antiChrist being reinstated against their will? Maybe, but from what I am seeing and hearing from the people around me, I'm not so sure. I think we should be bracing for a widespread violent backlash. Maybe that's what's needed though, a purge of the woke and the progressives.
But are they willing to lay down their lives? Because it sounds like that is what you are suggesting they will do...
These people HATE america so are they really willing to lay down their lives to defend it from tyrant trump?
We patriots are the monsters in the night, the crocodiles beneath the water, while the left are the stubborn zebras, the children throwing a temper tantrum who then turn around and cry for mommy when things get to tough.
We on the right are far more lethal, violent, and crazy in the defense of our country than the left. It is us you should be afraid of, not the left.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:59:29 AMYou wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.
Its not. Thats why most americans accept it.
Whats hard is penetrating the lefts thick skulls, which have been hardened by the MSM and the colleges to resist all truth and reality.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:59:29 AMYou wouldn't think that something so obvious would be so hard to prove.
True, but it's the largest and most complex crime in our history. I'm able to follow the technical side of it, but most people can't, understandably. It's a lot, and you have to have every angle covered.
Quote from: T Hunt on June 05, 2021, 09:02:41 AMIts not. Thats why most americans accept it.
Whats hard is penetrating the lefts thick skulls, which have been hardened by the MSM and the colleges to resist all truth and reality.
Facebook, CNN, MSM, and the like are all showing cracks. Yes, it is perplexing that so many are still slurping the garbage propaganda that they spew....but as a poster said earlier.....many are figuring things out.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
That's because you believe the leftist hype, that a handful of paid Marxists represent the entirety of the left.
It's a huge lie of a facade.
Cut their money off and they'll disappear.
Note, that al of this crap is only happening in Blue city shit holes.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 07:45:42 AMI don't know a single Democratic voter who will ever believe or accept that Trump won. Maybe in the end they will have no choice other than to accept it, but if last summer's BLM protests are any indication, I believe that many of them believe that they would rather die fighting than accept Trump back in power.
I would rather the useless assholes died first too. And if it comes to a real fight you can damn well bet they will die.
Quote from: sataspa on June 05, 2021, 08:39:09 AMMaybe, but from what I am seeing and hearing from the people around me, I'm not so sure. I think we should be bracing for a widespread violent backlash. Maybe that's what's needed though, a purge of the woke and the progressives.
And from who will this backlash come from? BLM? Antifa? The homeless? Liberals can not even control the mess they have in their cities, much less take on anything else.
QuoteYou think they will just quietly accept the person that the MSM has convinced them is the American antiChrist being reinstated against their will?
The democrats had to cheat to elect biden, I just don't think as many people listen to the msm as you think.
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It's quite a predicament for them...
Yup, and it is.
Didn't most of the disputed states have mandatory recounts because the final difference was so close? We're large gaps found?
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 01:46:25 PMDidn't most of the disputed states have mandatory recounts because the final difference was so close? We're large gaps found?
Recounting fraudulent ballots yields the same results.
a civil war would only happen media outlets such as CNN try to make it one. But if the Republicans can stay ahead of the media and control the message that the Democrats cheated to win, we could stave off a civil war.
It all depends on who controls the message.
Quote from: TD on June 05, 2021, 02:23:01 PMa civil war would only happen media outlets such as CNN try to make it one. But if the Republicans can stay ahead of the media and control the message that the Democrats cheated to win, we could stave off a civil war.
It all depends on who controls the message.
Trump media is coming...
Quote from: TD on June 05, 2021, 02:23:01 PMa civil war would only happen media outlets such as CNN try to make it one. But if the Republicans can stay ahead of the media and control the message that the Democrats cheated to win, we could stave off a civil war.
It all depends on who controls the message.
There will not be a civil war, libs may be stupid, but they're not willing to die for communism.
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 01:46:25 PMDidn't most of the disputed states have mandatory recounts because the final difference was so close? We're large gaps found?
Recounts, i.e. recount the fraud ballots. Huge difference between the deep forensic audits like in Arizona versus some BLM rejects recounting their crap work again.
Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2021, 02:31:56 PMThere will not be a civil war, libs may be stupid, but they're not willing to die for communism.
They are not as well armed either.
Anyway, when I think of Civil War I usually think of the Antifa and BLM riots and chaos. Only this time the Patriots won't rely on the police to take care of the situation.
Quote from: TD on June 05, 2021, 02:36:54 PMThey are not as well armed either.
Anyway, when I think of Civil War I usually think of the Antifa and BLM riots and chaos. Only this time the Patriots won't rely on the police to take care of the situation.
That's why they only riot in blue cities, they're afraid of real men.
Quote from: Solar on June 05, 2021, 02:16:03 PMRecounting fraudulent ballots yields the same results.
Ok, so this is the Sydney Powell/Mike Lindell/Venezuela/Dominion/algorithm idea.
Quote from: TD on June 05, 2021, 02:36:54 PMThey are not as well armed either.
Anyway, when I think of Civil War I usually think of the Antifa and BLM riots and chaos. Only this time the Patriots won't rely on the police to take care of the situation.
In a civil war, we wouldn't have to worry about Marxist prosecutors or attorney generals.
The civil war would be over by dinner.
Quote from: p1tchblack on June 05, 2021, 02:45:39 PMOk, so this is the Sydney Powell/Mike Lindell/Venezuela/Dominion/algorithm idea.
I'd say maybe go ahead and watch it... it has good stuff in there.
Quote from: taxed on June 05, 2021, 02:48:52 PMI'd say maybe go ahead and watch it... it has good stuff in there.
sorry.... I meant this ISN'T the algorithm idea.
I have absolutely no doubt that China hacked our elections. I also believe that Democrats here helped, encouraged and possibly paid for that hacking. What the American people need to consider is why Communist China wanted dolt Biden in the WH? Why would Communist China want a Democrat in the WH instead of President Trump? There is no question in my mind that there was massive manipulation with the intent purpose to flip the election over for Bejing and his Commie running mate.
Quote from: RV on June 06, 2021, 05:18:15 AMI have absolutely no doubt that China hacked our elections. I also believe that Democrats here helped, encouraged and possibly paid for that hacking. What the American people need to consider is why Communist China wanted dolt Biden in the WH? Why would Communist China want a Democrat in the WH instead of President Trump? There is no question in my mind that there was massive manipulation with the intent purpose to flip the election over for Bejing and his Commie running mate.
And why did RINO help cover up fraud?
This is the part I love, the GOP RINO literally raised their hands, stated their names and said, "We hate America"! So what are you going to do about it pussies?
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I can't believe they thought they were invincible, that their theft of the party was somehow legitimate?
Boy, are these people in for a shock, because they thought the worst that could happen, is they'd be replaced.
They aren't going to like prison very much. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 05:39:38 AMAnd why did RINO help cover up fraud?
This is the part I love, the GOP RINO literally raised their hands, stated their names and said, "We hate America"! So what are you going to do about it pussies?
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I can't believe they thought they were invincible, that their theft of the party was somehow legitimate?
Boy, are these people in for a shock, because they thought the worst that could happen, is they'd be replaced.
They aren't going to like prison very much. :biggrin:
And there lays the deep dirty secret. Even when the country was heading in th right direction, even when parts of the world were heading in the right direction, the rino's did not back the president even though he was from their own party. Trump was not going off the deep end, he was bringing America back. Imho, I think a buch of rino's are also tied into Epstein, they sure never demanded an investigation into his death. Rino's see Trump as a threat to themselves not as a threat to the country.
Quote from: Possum on June 06, 2021, 05:56:59 AMAnd there lays the deep dirty secret. Even when the country was heading in th right direction, even when parts of the world were heading in the right direction, the rino's did not back the president even though he was from their own party. Trump was not going off the deep end, he was bringing America back. Imho, I think a buch of rino's are also tied into Epstein, they sure never demanded an investigation into his death. Rino's see Trump as a threat to themselves not as a threat to the country.
Yes, it's an evil I simply can't wrap my mind around. The GOP was winning via Trump, yet they stood in the way when they could have been the recipients of goodwill heading towards reelection, yet they threw it all away?
The only answer that makes sense, and as you pointed out, Epstein. How deep are these scum entangled in this mess of blackmail and subversion?
That's the only thing that makes sense, they were more afraid of their blackmailers, than they were of the people.
Heads up on this data:
https://conservativehardliner.com/beware-lindells-pcap-data-were-still-ok
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 06:16:44 AMHeads up on this data:
https://conservativehardliner.com/beware-lindells-pcap-data-were-still-ok
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Fascinating....
Good post Taxed. :thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 06:28:10 AM\
Fascinating....
Good post Taxed. :thumbup:
Yeah man... with all this deep-state, intel cyber shit, we need to have our guards up.
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 06:39:07 AMYeah man... with all this deep-state, intel cyber shit, we need to have our guards up.
I really don't know what to think of it, but as you pointed out, is Lindell baiting them, distracting them?
Time will tell, but we know we have the evidence of fraud, this is just icing on the cake, the real shit is in the fraudulent hard copy ballots, they can't can't hide from that.
Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 06:45:29 AMI really don't know what to think of it, but as you pointed out, is Lindell baiting them, distracting them?
Time will tell, but we know we have the evidence of fraud, this is just icing on the cake, the real shit is in the fraudulent hard copy ballots, they can't can't hide from that.
Exactly...
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 06:16:44 AMHeads up on this data:
https://conservativehardliner.com/beware-lindells-pcap-data-were-still-ok
Now my head is spinning. What do you think this means? Is this another hoax?
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 06:53:10 AMNow my head is spinning. What do you think this means? Is this another hoax?
No, I think they're baiting Dominion and working the lefties up in a frenzy.
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 06:57:06 AMNo, I think they're baiting Dominion and working the lefties up in a frenzy.
That part about the data not being encrypted, is that true?
QuoteWhen I looked closer and saw most of the bytes in ASCII range (0x20 to 0x7e (for the chars you'd care about)), that told me this is NOT encrypted data.
Was it that obvious? Did you notice it yourself? Yesterday it seemed to be gospel truth. Today we have to make explanations and excuses. This is not something I think I can sell to the people around me who think that Biden is the real President.
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 06:57:06 AMNo, I think they're baiting Dominion and working the lefties up in a frenzy.
Who's getting who worked up into a frenzy?
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:07:06 AMThat part about the data not being encrypted, is that true?
100%, undisputed.
QuoteWas it that obvious?
Big time.
QuoteDid you notice it yourself?
Yes.
QuoteYesterday it seemed to be gospel truth. Today we have to make explanations and excuses. This is not something I think I can sell to the people around me who think that Biden is the real President.
I don't think this means they don't have that data. Let's just hang tight because more stuff is supposed to drop this week.
Quote from: yrunvs on June 06, 2021, 07:09:16 AMWho's getting who worked up into a frenzy?
Besides me? Yesterday this was 9-0 proof. Today it's a trick being played on somebody, the real question being who is the trick really being played on.
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:12:15 AMBesides me? Yesterday this was 9-0 proof. Today it's a trick being played on somebody, the real question being who is the trick really being played on.
Right. I think the enemy thinks they got away with another one, but they're getting baited.
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 07:12:03 AM100%, undisputed.
Big time.
Yes.
I don't think this means they don't have that data. Let's just hang tight because more stuff is supposed to drop this week.
I hope you're right.
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:13:21 AMI hope you're right.
In reality, I shouldn't have posted that last article without watching the video...
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 07:15:08 AMIn reality, I shouldn't have posted that last article without watching the video...
Between you and me, does this make you question Lindell's fitness for the job of being America's oracle? It doesn't seem to me that he was in the know about the encryption and using it to bait a trap. It seems to me that if anyone was the original fool, it was him.
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:28:11 AMBetween you and me, does this make you question Lindell's fitness for the job of being America's oracle?
I'm not sure anyone has declared him as such. He's a patriot trying his ass off to help save the Republic.
QuoteIt doesn't seem to me that he was in the know about the encryption and using it to bait a trap. It seems to me that if anyone was the original fool, it was him.
...or Dominion and those thinking Lindell is too dumb.
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 07:31:57 AMI'm not sure anyone has declared him as such. He's a patriot trying his ass off to help save the Republic.
...or Dominion and those thinking Lindell is too dumb.
Good points.
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:12:15 AMBesides me? Yesterday this was 9-0 proof. Today it's a trick being played on somebody, the real question being who is the trick really being played on.
That was my question.
Quote from: sataspa on June 06, 2021, 07:12:15 AMBesides me? Yesterday this was 9-0 proof. Today it's a trick being played on somebody, the real question being who is the trick really being played on.
What are you talking about? It still is proof, its just that the visual on screen did not match what they were talking about, that doesnt mean they dont have it. As taxed said in his article, it seems weird they would plaster sensitive data on screen for all to see. So they didnt and just used a visual prop.
They probably just said, "we need a prop to demonstrate 'cyber data' to the viewers", so they just grabbed some random data and flashed it on the screen, not the data captures they are talking about specifically which show cheating. Lindell is very competent and a patriot, we have no reason to suspect anything sinister beyond him trying to outwit the deepstate. Hes certainly not out there trying to fool We The People because we are too smart and evidence oriented to be fooled.
Quote from: T Hunt on June 06, 2021, 08:38:00 AMWhat are you talking about? It still is proof, its just that the visual on screen did not match what they were talking about, that doesnt mean they dont have it. As taxed said in his article, it seems weird they would plaster sensitive data on screen for all to see. So they didnt and just used a visual prop.
They probably just said, "we need a prop to demonstrate 'cyber data' to the viewers", so they just grabbed some random data and flashed it on the screen, not the data captures they are talking about specifically which show cheating. Lindell is very competent and a patriot, we have no reason to suspect anything sinister beyond him trying to outwit the deepstate. Hes certainly not out there trying to fool We The People because we are too smart and evidence oriented to be fooled.
Exactly!
Quote from: T Hunt on June 06, 2021, 08:38:00 AMWhat are you talking about? It still is proof, its just that the visual on screen did not match what they were talking about, that doesnt mean they dont have it. As taxed said in his article, it seems weird they would plaster sensitive data on screen for all to see. So they didnt and just used a visual prop.
They probably just said, "we need a prop to demonstrate 'cyber data' to the viewers", so they just grabbed some random data and flashed it on the screen, not the data captures they are talking about specifically which show cheating. Lindell is very competent and a patriot, we have no reason to suspect anything sinister beyond him trying to outwit the deepstate. Hes certainly not out there trying to fool We The People because we are too smart and evidence oriented to be fooled.
Well said. I believe that really is the point, make the Dims think he's clueless and that they still have a chance of skating.
We all know the truth, and Linwood isn't stupid enough to tilt his hand so far, that they know exactly what to expect.
We know the left is stupid, so why not let them think they are winning?
True Sun Tzu applied. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 10:05:11 AMWell said. I believe that really is the point, make the Dims think he's clueless and that they still have a chance of skating.
We all know the truth, and Linwood isn't stupid enough to tilt his hand so far, that they know exactly what to expect.
We know the left is stupid, so why not let them think they are winning?
True Sun Tzu applied. :biggrin:
I wonder just how rich and famous all of the clowns who think Lindel is a fool are? Do they have anywhere near the wealth or fame he does? If they're so damn smart, why not? I wonder if Donald Trump counts them among his personal friends? More likely they're unknown with little to nothing and no one knows who they are nor do they give a crap who or what they are. They likely have about as much fame as a homeless deadbeat crapping on a San Francisco street.