If this is true, Fuck it, I want no part of it!!! Trump, VETO this shit!
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Hell is actually freezing over!
Candice and AOC agree on an issue.
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1341202391404867585
We have half the country losing their small businesses but we're supposed to give billions of dollars ( we don't have) to a bunch sh*t hole countries ??? :angry:
Quote from: Mimsy on December 21, 2020, 06:12:07 PM
We have half the country losing their small businesses but we're supposed to give billions of dollars ( we don't have) to a bunch sh*t hole countries ??? :angry:
I sure hope Trump vetoes this, I also hope he rips them a new ass hole over this!
What's the big deal?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 21, 2020, 06:28:36 PM
What's the big deal?
And you want us to believe you're a conservative? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2020, 06:50:15 PM
And you want us to believe you're a conservative? :rolleyes:
I don't care what some lying wannabe like you and others of your ilk believe
the left wants to send millions to homos in pakistan or some god forsaken place..they want millions for our enemies and they're gonna give nearly bankrupt american citizens six paltry freakin' embarrassin' hundred dollars.
NOT A DAMN CENT should be going out of this country.
This is freaking nuts. Trump should veto it and then post it so the people can see why he vetoed.
I will stay home Jan. 5th if David Purdue and Kelly Loeffler voted yea for this globalist stimulus bill.
2020.......when AOC has more common sense than the whole republican Senate........ :lol:
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1341145260014100480
Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2020, 05:54:39 PM
If this is true, Fuck it, I want no part of it!!! Trump, VETO this shit!
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It is what your Repugnant ones would allow.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 09:42:23 PM
It is what your Repugnant ones would allow.
Of course you mean your Nanzi..
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 21, 2020, 09:42:23 PM
It is what your Repugnant ones would allow.
Who backs the republicans, or is that what you are trying to say?
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 21, 2020, 06:58:18 PM
I don't care what some lying wannabe like you and others of your ilk believe
You should care! I've been nice to you so far because you're young and stupid, but kinda on the Right track, but when you post shit like this and claim Conservative Status, you give the Movement a bad name.
Listen fool, Look up the word Conservative in the dictionary, it is all about conserving, frugality, niggardly behavior at its core, we just don't steal other peoples money and give it to our enemies, that's a Marxist trait trying to buy allies!
Check yourself, you're bordering on troll status!
This shit is why I became an Independent. I will be writing my Representatives today. This bill is an abomination!
94-6
These are the nays
Marsha Blackburn R-Tenn)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Mike Lee (R-UT)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
Rick Scott (R-FL)
That's it, that's the list.
I will not vote for this $1 trillion dollar, 5,593-page bill that not one Senator read, therefore, my vote for David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler on Jan 5th, 2021 is a NO.
When Tulsi Gabbard has more sense then the republican senate.......... :thumbsup:
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1341223345992462336
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 04:28:00 AM
You should care! I've been nice to you so far because you're young and stupid,
Young? Nice of you to think so but I'm 53 years old. Married with a grown daughter.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 06:28:21 AM
Young? Nice of you to think so but I'm 53 years old. Married with a grown daughter.
Your intellect screams "Intellectually Stunted", so yeah, kid. Like I said, stick around, you have so much to learn, decades worth of deprogramming!
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 06:31:53 AM
Your intellect screams "Intellectually Stunted", so yeah, kid. Like I said, stick around, you have so much to learn, decades worth of deprogramming!
There is a big difference in "conservative" in the strict dictionary sense of the word and modern political conservativism. I'm a political conservative. My conservatism is based on policy. Mainly social policy.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 06:40:11 AM
There is a big difference in "conservative" in the strict dictionary sense of the word and modern political conservativism. I'm a political conservative. My conservatism is based on policy. Mainly social policy.
No Shit! You're a lib by any other descriptor!
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 06:40:11 AM
There is a big difference in "conservative" in the strict dictionary sense of the word and modern political conservativism. I'm a political conservative. My conservatism is based on policy. Mainly social policy.
You are a left wing nut job socialist...
Quote from: Bronx on December 21, 2020, 09:27:14 PM
I will stay home Jan. 5th if David Purdue and Kelly Loeffler voted yea for this globalist stimulus bill.
Chuck Schumer appreciates you
Quote from: Bronx on December 22, 2020, 05:20:04 AM
94-6
These are the nays
Marsha Blackburn R-Tenn)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Mike Lee (R-UT)
Rand Paul (R-KY)
Rick Scott (R-FL)
That's it, that's the list.
I will not vote for this $1 trillion dollar, 5,593-page bill that not one Senator read, therefore, my vote for David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler on Jan 5th, 2021 is a NO.
So you are willing to surrender over one battle when we have an entire war to fight? As useless as Republicans are, the democrat socialist can cause far more damage. Anyone who didn't expect a load of pork in the bill is living in la-la land.
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 04:28:00 AM
You should care! I've been nice to you so far because you're young and stupid, but kinda on the Right track, but when you post shit like this and claim Conservative Status, you give the Movement a bad name.
Oh wow, the moderator has been "nice" to you as if your whole life depended ion some kind of membership in a forum filled with liars, and untruths. Hey Solar, here is another definition for conservative : "averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values."
Quotewe just don't steal other peoples money and give it to our enemies, that's a Marxist trait trying to buy allies!
Sure you do. You take from the poor, and give it to the rich. It is called corporatism. Then you claim to be "christian" while denying every tenet of Christianity.
God says to select righteous men as leaders, you support a lying, adulterous, thieving, coward.
God says not to honor the rich, yet you place them in front of the poor.
God says that Satan is the father of all lies, and yet you praise a liar, and lie for him.
God says to bear one anothers burdens, and yet you would take from the poor.
God says to help the poor, yet you turn the poor away, and send them back to be killed, or whatever, not caring what happens to them.
www.reclaimingjesus.org
But your a "christian". :confused: :rolleyes: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Quote from: blulady on December 21, 2020, 08:24:35 PM
This is freaking nuts. Trump should veto it and then post it so the people can see why he vetoed.
According to Rush, Illegals get $1800 ($600 this time and $1,200 retroactively).
Still trying to verify this.
Quote from: BayouCountry on December 22, 2020, 08:50:26 AM
So you are willing to surrender over one battle when we have an entire war to fight? As useless as Republicans are, the democrat socialist can cause far more damage. Anyone who didn't expect a load of pork in the bill is living in la-la land.
C'mon man really.......when republicans vote for crap like this they surrendered the senate a long time ago.
Remember Obamacare...we need the House of Reps to repeal...okay here. Wait we also need the Senate...okay here. One more thing voters we need the White House also..........two friggin' years the republicans controlled congress and Obamacare is still standing.
At one time your point was valid now it's stinking out the joint. Remember wash, rinse, and repeat for you wishful thinkers.
What is the meaning of insanity again.........?
While you put lipstick on a pig and enjoy the pork my vote is no for Perdue and Loeffler...oink, oink.......next.............. :popcorn:
If you allow the Democrats to win this because you're pissed, you GUARANTEE Democrats will rule over you for the rest of time.
They WILL pack the SC. They WILL make PR and DC states. They will do a lot of things that will ensure ONE PARTY RULE for the remaining life of this Republic. Your plan is foolish. Pelosi and Schumer appreciate you
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 06:50:43 AM
No Shit! You're a lib by any other descriptor!
Interesting that two members here who spend all their time fellating Donald Trump accuse someone else of being a "liberal".
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 11:03:43 AM
Interesting that two members here who spend all their time fellating Donald Trump accuse someone else of being a "liberal".
You socialists have absolutely no idea how we can see right through you....it's awesome and provided me endless entertainment when I worked in DC....it drove you liberals crazy....:lol:
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 11:06:11 AM
when I worked in DC
I see. You're a former federal bureaucrat. A drone. A parasite.
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 11:06:11 AM
You socialists have absolutely no idea how we can see right through you....it's awesome and provided me endless entertainment when I worked in DC....it drove you liberals crazy....:lol:
And yet you are too stupid to see "through" trump, and his lies. Yes, I will bet you were amused, and I will bet others were even more so at you.
BTW, you do know, and probably don't, that this country has had a mixed economy since its founding, right? Then too, you obviously have no clue as to what a "socialist" is, or even what "socialism" is.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
Oh wow, the moderator has been "nice" to you as if your whole life depended ion some kind of membership in a forum filled with liars, and untruths. Hey Solar, here is another definition for conservative : "averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values."
Sure you do. You take from the poor, and give it to the rich. It is called corporatism. Then you claim to be "christian" while denying every tenet of Christianity.
God says to select righteous men as leaders, you support a lying, adulterous, thieving, coward.
God says not to honor the rich, yet you place them in front of the poor.
God says that Satan is the father of all lies, and yet you praise a liar, and lie for him.
God says to bear one anothers burdens, and yet you would take from the poor.
God says to help the poor, yet you turn the poor away, and send them back to be killed, or whatever, not caring what happens to them.
www.reclaimingjesus.org
But your a "christian". :confused: :rolleyes: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Blah blah blah...... How about actually commenting on the thread moron, and no, I'm not a Christian!
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Blah blah blah...... How about actually commenting on the thread moron, and no, I'm not a Christian!
I know your not, and yet you are the one that said the country was founded on "christian principles".
And I commented on your post, your words, and your lies asswipe.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
I know your not, and yet you are the one that said the country was founded on "christian principles".
And I commented on your post, your words, and your lies asswipe.
It was and I'm still not a Christian. Now prove this nation wasn't Founded on Judeo Christian values, it was definitely founded on Gods Law!
Quote from: carlb on December 22, 2020, 10:34:39 AM
If you allow the Democrats to win this because you're pissed, you GUARANTEE Democrats will rule over you for the rest of time.
They WILL pack the SC. They WILL make PR and DC states. They will do a lot of things that will ensure ONE PARTY RULE for the remaining life of this Republic. Your plan is foolish. Pelosi and Schumer appreciate you
Let me see if I have this correct........the republicans voted YEA on a $1 trillion dollar pork bill and I'm voting Nay and it's my fault........... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
I know your not, and yet you are the one that said the country was founded on "christian principles".
And I commented on your post, your words, and your lies asswipe.
Boy you're stupid. You can not be a Christian and still recognize the country is founded on Judeo Christian values.
See, it's intellectual blind-spots that make you such an entertaining clown.
If this was a real effort to help American citizens and not to enrich a bunch of sh*t hole countries that 900 billion would translate to $3000 for every citizen. These politicians need the French revolution treatment imo. Talk about putting Americans last! :sneaky:
Remember this woman.......she's at it again.........I like her and her idea to sneak in term limits in the next Bill............. :thumbsup:
https://twitter.com/realalexlains/status/1341432612150267904
^^this^^
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 11:12:19 AM
I see. You're a former federal bureaucrat. A drone. A parasite.
No.
But you're still a left wing nut job socialist....:lol:
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 01:39:15 PM
No.
But you're still a left wing nut job socialist....:lol:
Big talk from someone who has been posting here only two months. I'm a recent new member here but at least I don't go around throwing insults without provocation.
I understand the position of those people who say that we should not spend even a cent on aid to other states.
But the United States is not just a big strong state. The USA is a beacon of freedom and democracy around the world.
Therefore, spending money abroad is still necessary.
It's another matter to give money to outspoken enemies of the United States, such as Russia, Pakistan, Egypt ...
But we have given and continue to give.
But in Israel, many people believe that the United States is strangling Israel with its help.
Not many Americans know that the United States, at one time, simply prohibited Israel from developing its military aircraft industry.
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 22, 2020, 02:15:10 PM
I understand the position of those people who say that we should not spend even a cent on aid to other states.
But the United States is not just a big strong state. The USA is a beacon of freedom and democracy around the world.
Therefore, spending money abroad is still necessary.
It's another matter to give money to outspoken enemies of the United States, such as Russia, Pakistan, Egypt ...
But we have given and continue to give.
But in Israel, many people believe that the United States is strangling Israel with its help.
Not many Americans know that the United States, at one time, simply prohibited Israel from developing its military aircraft industry.
We are over 25 trillion in debt and democrats decimated our makers...
We have no more to give....
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 22, 2020, 02:15:10 PM
I understand the position of those people who say that we should not spend even a cent on aid to other states.
But the United States is not just a big strong state. The USA is a beacon of freedom and democracy around the world.
Therefore, spending money abroad is still necessary.
It's another matter to give money to outspoken enemies of the United States, such as Russia, Pakistan, Egypt ...
But we have given and continue to give.
But in Israel, many people believe that the United States is strangling Israel with its help.
Not many Americans know that the United States, at one time, simply prohibited Israel from developing its military aircraft industry.
Yes because during a global pandemic nothing is more important to Americans that sending Pakistan $25 million for gender studies. :sneaky:
Quote from: Mimsy on December 22, 2020, 02:19:16 PM
Yes because during a global pandemic nothing is more important to Americans that sending Pakistan $25 million for gender studies. :sneaky:
Or madero to enslave the people of Venezuela.....
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
Or madero to enslave the people of Venezuela.....
Instead of helping small businesses around the country survive, these corrupt rotten politicians are sending out billions in foreign aid. Which to me looks like legalized treason. Bring back the Guillotine. :mad:
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 11:45:36 AM
It was and I'm still not a Christian. Now prove this nation wasn't Founded on Judeo Christian values, it was definitely founded on Gods Law!
I used to think from that stand point, but there is little evidence such is true. Certainly not from reading the Constitution which only refers to religion twice, and that is in the First Amendment which forbids the enacting of laws requiring such, or forbidding such. Certainly some of the Founders were Christian, however, that was then and it certainly is not true today. In spite of the leanings of the "Evangelicals" there is no indication that trump was/is, or has ever been led by anything resembling the teachings of Christ, and thus their position is one of a secular POV, not a Christian POV. And morality was around long before Christ. However, show me anything in the Constitution that remotely is of Christian origin.
For instance, abortion is legal in Israel, and it is, and always has been, in the US.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
I used to think from that stand point, but there is little evidence such is true. Certainly not from reading the Constitution which only refers to religion twice, and that is in the First Amendment which forbids the enacting of laws requiring such, or forbidding such. Certainly some of the Founders were Christian, however, that was then and it certainly is not true today. In spite of the leanings of the "Evangelicals" there is no indication that trump was/is, or has ever been led by anything resembling the teachings of Christ, and thus their position is one of a secular POV, not a Christian POV. And morality was around long before Christ. However, show me anything in the Constitution that remotely is of Christian origin.
For instance, abortion is legal in Israel, and it is, and always has been, in the US.
You should try reading the Constitution then...or better yet, given your demonstrated lack of education, have some one read it to you....
Quote from: Owebo on December 22, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
We are over 25 trillion in debt and democrats decimated our makers...
We have no more to give....
But trillions to the wealthy under Bush43, and now trump, is acceptable.
The truth is in your opinion we have no more to give to the ones that need it the most. Since we create our own currency there is no limit on how much we can create.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 02:47:49 PM
But trillions to the wealthy under Bush43, and now trump, is acceptable.
The truth is in your opinion we have no more to give to the ones that need it the most. Since we create our own currency there is no limit on how much we can create.
No, the 20 trillion under your Obama is not acceptable...
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
I used to think from that stand point, but there is little evidence such is true. Certainly not from reading the Constitution which only refers to religion twice, and that is in the First Amendment which forbids the enacting of laws requiring such, or forbidding such. Certainly some of the Founders were Christian, however, that was then and it certainly is not true today. In spite of the leanings of the "Evangelicals" there is no indication that trump was/is, or has ever been led by anything resembling the teachings of Christ, and thus their position is one of a secular POV, not a Christian POV. And morality was around long before Christ. However, show me anything in the Constitution that remotely is of Christian origin.
For instance, abortion is legal in Israel, and it is, and always has been, in the US.
No. Abortion has NO always been legal in the U.S.
What do you think the big deal over Roe V. Wade is about? Prior to Roe v. Wade most abortions were illegal in about one third of U.S. states.
Quote from: Mimsy on December 22, 2020, 02:19:16 PM
Yes because during a global pandemic nothing is more important to Americans that sending Pakistan $25 million for gender studies. :sneaky:
horse-racing integrity too!
https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/12/22/pakistani-gender-programs-horse-racing-integrity-climate-monitoring-in-tibet-just-a-few-of-the-ridiculous-things-thrown-into-the-covid-relief-omnibus-package/
https://twitter.com/MarshaBlackburn/status/1341494553677885440?s=20
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
No. Abortion has NO always been legal in the U.S.
What do you think the big deal over Roe V. Wade is about? Prior to Roe v. Wade most abortions were illegal in about one third of U.S. states.
90% of what he says is just bs. The rest is false.
Quote from: Possum on December 22, 2020, 03:19:57 PM
90% of what he says is just bs. The rest is false.
You are referring to Old Trapper? I would swear I've seen that username somewhere else. At a science fiction discussion board perhaps. Or maybe another political board.
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 22, 2020, 03:23:44 PM
You are referring to Old Trapper? I would swear I've seen that username somewhere else. At a science fiction discussion board perhaps. Or maybe another political board.
Yes I was.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
I used to think from that stand point, but there is little evidence such is true. Certainly not from reading the Constitution which only refers to religion twice, and that is in the First Amendment which forbids the enacting of laws requiring such, or forbidding such. Certainly some of the Founders were Christian, however, that was then and it certainly is not true today. In spite of the leanings of the "Evangelicals" there is no indication that trump was/is, or has ever been led by anything resembling the teachings of Christ, and thus their position is one of a secular POV, not a Christian POV. And morality was around long before Christ. However, show me anything in the Constitution that remotely is of Christian origin.
For instance, abortion is legal in Israel, and it is, and always has been, in the US.
It didn't need to be in the Constitution, it was already spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.
"all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Other references are "Nature's God," "Creator," and "Supreme Judge," .
Point being, God had already been established as to the reason for rebellion, once secured, the Declaration was an established treatise for the following Founders Documents establishing a Republican govt.
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 04:41:57 PM
It didn't need to be in the Constitution, it was already spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.
"all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Other references are "Nature's God," "Creator," and "Supreme Judge," .
Point being, God had already been established as to the reason for rebellion, once secured, the Declaration was an established treatise for the following Founders Documents establishing a Republican govt.
I see after 20 years you need to educate Old Socialist yet. You have been living in his head rent free all these years.
Quote from: walkstall on December 22, 2020, 06:02:12 PM
I see after 20 years you need to educate Old Socialist yet. You have been living in his head rent free all these years.
I'm that nagging 24/7 migraine he suffers from, that's why he's so pissed all the time. That, and he's probably perpetually constipated. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 06:27:00 PM
I'm that nagging 24/7 migraine he suffers from, that's why he's so pissed all the time. That, and he's probably perpetually constipated. :biggrin:
Depends.
Bet his are full.
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Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 06:32:56 AM
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Consider also that the government has NO money except that which they collect from US, the tax payers!
Quote from: RV on December 23, 2020, 08:03:48 AM
Consider also that the government has NO money except that which they collect from US, the tax payers!
Or print , as in FIAT money...
Quote from: Solar on December 23, 2020, 08:06:34 AM
Or print , as in FIAT money...
I always find it amazing as to how little of history asshats like you actually know. Or even take responsibility for:
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/7/v32n2-10.pdf
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 23, 2020, 11:05:24 AM
I always find it amazing as to how little of history asshats like you actually know. Or even take responsibility for:
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2012/7/v32n2-10.pdf
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You're too stupid to be amazed over something as in depth as finance, so you post a link in hopes of confusing people. You still laugh every time someone says "Pull My Finger" and farts, you actually still think you were the cause of the fart. Hey, Old Socialist, "Got Yer Nose"...
If there is something in particular you think we should read, then post it, but don't think for a second I'm going to read something I already know just to try and figure out your pin headed point!