The negligence and malfeasance were on the part of the questioners.

Dems & leftists we knew itwas coming.

The fact that all the GOP reps aided in the ass-kissing and cover up of any real questioning....that's the shocking and disgusting part.

Apparently this was every politician in the room vs. the citizens who expect truth and lawfulness.

A huge step back for the GOP honesty and character that we're chasing.

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 24, 2013, 07:21:26 AM
The negligence and malfeasance were on the part of the questioners.

Dems & leftists we knew it was coming.

The fact that all the GOP reps aided in the ass-kissing and cover up of any real questioning....that's the shocking and disgusting part.

Apparently this was every politician in the room vs. the citizens who expect truth and lawfulness.

A huge step back for the GOP honesty and character that we're chasing.

I can't help but wonder if, that the truth is so horrible, that the republicans are scared to even publicly pursue it.

Look at it this way; if the republicans were to lay out a scenario like I did...........not only would no one believe that such a cold hearted thing would be possible, but the republicans would be demonized by even suggesting it. I can see the news flashes now.

This is why republicans have got to stop being so scared of their shadows.

Bush was accused of being a murderer, daily; as was Romney.

If democrats can lie about murder, republicans should have the balls to expose it when it's true.

Quote from: kramarat on January 24, 2013, 07:39:56 AM
This is why republicans have got to stop being so scared of their shadows.

Bush was accused of being a murderer, daily; as was Romney.

If democrats can lie about murder, republicans should have the balls to expose it when it's true.

The problem is the media. 

Rand Paul ripped her a new one...what did the media report...Hillary's little rant and her crocodile tears.

Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 07:43:11 AM
The problem is the media. 

Rand Paul ripped her a new one...what did the media report...Hillary's little rant and her crocodile tears.

Right. Good for Paul. They all should have been going after her.

Fast and furious was another missed opportunity. A president cannot use executive privilege to cover up something that's illegal!!!

If they could, Nixon would have done it. Case closed.

The pubs are blowing it.

Quote from: kramarat on January 24, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
Right. Good for Paul. They all should have been going after her.

Fast and furious was another missed opportunity. A president cannot use executive privilege to cover up something that's illegal!!!

If they could, Nixon would have done it. Case closed.

The pubs are blowing it.

For the most part that's true.  But without "honest air time" in the MSM the message of those that try...just doesn't reach the masses.

Quote from: kramarat on January 24, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
Right. Good for Paul. They all should have been going after her.

Fast and furious was another missed opportunity. A president cannot use executive privilege to cover up something that's illegal!!!

If they could, Nixon would have done it. Case closed.

The pubs are blowing it.

I really would like to call or email my congressman and just ask What in the Hell are you guys doing. Why didn't they get together before hand and just say you ask this and the next guy ask something else or the the same thing until we get an answer. She talked for 4.5 hours and didn't say a word yesterday.

Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 07:53:19 AM

For the most part that's true.  But without "honest air time" in the MSM the message of those that try...just doesn't reach the masses.

That's why the cons have to get together and get on the same page with their message and just hammer it every time they get a chance, eventually maybe someone will hear it. It's like the right palm has no idea what the left one is doing!

Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 07:53:19 AM

For the most part that's true.  But without "honest air time" in the MSM the message of those that try...just doesn't reach the masses.

Well then fine. If the MSM is spinning the message into, "the republicans are being mean", so be it. At least it's being heard.

The pubs can do the same thing we do on here...........tell them to prove that they are right and the pubs are wrong. They can't!!

Quote from: kramarat on January 24, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Well then fine. If the MSM is spinning the message into, "the republicans are being mean", so be it. At least it's being heard.

The pubs can do the same thing we do on here...........tell them to prove that they are right and the pubs are wrong. They can't!!

But that's the problem.  How do you get that message out if the MSM refuses to cover it?   Putting a Republican/Conservative on a Sunday morning talk show surrounded by 3 salivating Dems is a no win situation. 

Even when the meassage is clear, the spin machine goes into high gear. Heck even the hosts are spinmeisters...Gregory, Schieffer...


There's  one Conservative outlet...FOX

The other side of the aisle has ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSLSD, PBS.

That's pretty big odds to overcome.

Also take yesterday's hearings.  If I'm not mistaken only FOX covered them live...maybe CNN.

Not CBS, NBC, or ABC.  Why?  They weren't sure how it would play out for Hillary so better to report on it later when they can spin what happened.

I'll bet you didn't see the Rand Paul exchange on the MSM networks and if you did, it was likey aired once with lots of refutation/spin along with it.

I don't have the numbers but I'd bet this got very little air play in the MSM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/23/rand-paul-to-hillary-clinton-if-i-were-president-i-would-have-relieved-you-of-your-post-video/

This is as of 11:33 NYC time.  It may change by the time some view this

Fox saying Hillary's answers don't add up and going into why:

http://www.foxnews.com/

Barely a trace of the hearings mentioned on CNN.  It's as if they didn't happen.  Left hand side, one buried story and a video on a "Firey Hillary"  No Rand Paul rebuking her.

http://www.cnn.com/

Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 08:34:54 AM
This is as of 11:33 NYC time.  It may change by the time some view this

Fox saying Hillary's answers don't add up and going into why:

http://www.foxnews.com/

Barely a trace of the hearings mentioned on CNN.  It's as if they didn't happen.  Left hand side, one buried story and a video on a "Firey Hillary"  No Rand Paul rebuking her.

http://www.cnn.com/

The only news I ever watch on TV is my local NBC station; and that's for the weather.

There are ways around a biased media. The republicans, (if they even care), need to start using other outlets. Websites, facebook, twitter, talk radio.................

If they wait to be heard on ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS or any of the other liberal outlets; it ain't gonna happen.

For cryin' out loud! Obama is still on the campaign trail, taking donations, and has a site that is updated daily.

http://www.barackobama.com/

Where is the republican equivalent?

"If they wait to be heard on ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS or any of the other liberal outlets; it ain't gonna happen."

And thereby the biggest outlets are closed to them.  What we need is an honest media without an agenda and that just isn't going to happen.


They need to concentrate on getting their base together and running candidates that appeal to the masses.

Quote from: Turks on January 24, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
"If they wait to be heard on ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS or any of the other liberal outlets; it ain't gonna happen."

And thereby the biggest outlets are closed to them.  What we need is an honest media without an agenda and that just isn't going to happen.


They need to concentrate on getting their base together and running candidates that appeal to the masses.

They've been trying that, and we end up with lib republicans. The masses have to be shown the truth..........somehow.