FOXOUT

Started by Josie, March 06, 2011, 09:44:29 PM

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Josie

Canada outlaws Fox News  ::)

I guess that's what happens when you get free healthcare.... somehow they think they have the right to tell you what you can and can't watch on TV....

QuoteFox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/276-74/5123-fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada


I should like to see a list of these so called "lies"....

U_Kay

That's hilarious, Josie!

It sounds as though their air waves are full of lies already! Without competition, there has to be lies fed to the sheep!

I found this paragraph quite interesting....

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage, including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987. Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right-wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."

The above paragraph tells me the Canadians are indeed printing false and misleading news.  :))

arpad

From down in the comments:

Hmmm...lemme see if I have this right. FOX lies and Canada won't let FOX broadcast from Canada because it lies but Canada will let Canadian Satellite Companies re-transmit FOX USA's lies from Canadian soil to Canadian satellites for the consumption of Canadians, but Canada just doesn't want FOX actually opening an office in Canada? The content of the USA FOX is OK, but the act of having an office in Canada is the problem? Yet it appears that Sun News ( A FOX Copy ) will in fact do FOX like stuff on Canadian soil but only with a level 2 license? Sounds like Canada has an enigmatic speech / moral problem on it's hands.

So it would appear that Fox does broadcast in Canada. It's just that lefties are trying to keep Fox from expanding its presence in Canada and that a particular lefty, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is willing to spin the story to make it appear that Canada's blessedly free of Fox's awful presence due to the vigilance of Canadian regulators.

Solar


I'm guessing Canadians don't have a first Amendment clause in there anywhere?
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U_Kay

no freedom of press

tbone0106

Quote from: Solar on March 07, 2011, 05:59:40 AM
I'm guessing Canadians don't have a first Amendment clause in there anywhere?

Actually they have something like it. In the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, there's this:

    2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication.

But they also have a thing called the "limitations clause," which says:

    The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. (Emphasis mine.)

In other words, the Canadian version of our First Amendment is far from being an expression of absolute liberty. The limitations clause has allowed certain types of speech (promoting genocide, for example) to be outlawed completely. In other cases, it has allowed aggrieved parties to sue in criminal and civil courts.

Several recent examples of the invocation of the limitations clause have been pursued by Muslim groups against those who offer criticisms of Islam. In particular, Mark Steyn, noted conservative author and commentator, endured lengthy court proceedings before both the Ontario Human Rights Commission and the national Canadian HRC as a result of a complaint filed by Muslim interests over articles written by Steyn and published in Maclean's magazine. Steyn, a native of Canada who lives in New Hampshire but remains a Canadian citizen, was acquitted, but continues to loudly criticize the Canadian version of 'freedom of speech.'

In another recent instance, conservative author and commentator Ann Coulter cut short a speaking tour at three Canadian universities. Her people cited several reasons for shortening the tour, chief among them an email received from a provost at the University of Ottawa that warned in part: "promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges." Though neither the email nor the university identified a specific group, it is widely accepted that Muslims were the group in question.

Solar

In other words, you are free to say what you want, unless we deem it necessary to shut you up.

Their clause is nothing but a joke, subject to the whim of those in charge at the time.
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tbone0106

Quote from: Solar on March 07, 2011, 01:30:05 PM
In other words, you are free to say what you want, unless we deem it necessary to shut you up.

Their clause is nothing but a joke, subject to the whim of those in charge at the time.

Yessir, you are correct. The downfall is the "limits prescribed by law" part. We don't have that sort of gigantic "back door."

Solar

Quote from: tbone0106 on March 07, 2011, 05:52:54 PM
Yessir, you are correct. The downfall is the "limits prescribed by law" part. We don't have that sort of gigantic "back door."
If we did, I can guarantee you, that the left would silence dissenting opinion.
Good bye talk radio....
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Quote from: Solar on March 07, 2011, 06:11:39 PM
If we did, I can guarantee you, that the left would silence dissenting opinion.
Good bye talk radio....

But NPR would remain, and Air America would make it's comeback, with incredible talent like Randi Rhodes...
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Solar

Quote from: taxed on March 07, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
But NPR would remain, and Air America would make it's comeback, with incredible talent like Randi Rhodes...
And you can bet that it would be subsidized with tax dollars, since no one would be listening anyway...
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Quote from: Solar on March 07, 2011, 06:28:57 PM
And you can bet that it would be subsidized with tax dollars, since no one would be listening anyway...

Most normal, regular people don't want to listen to Ed Shultz, Maddow, and other degenerates like that.  It's bad when you watch a talk show that is best when the volume is off.
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Quote from: taxed on March 07, 2011, 06:31:52 PM
Most normal, regular people don't want to listen to Ed Shultz, Maddow, and other degenerates like that.  It's bad when you watch a talk show that is best when the volume is off.

I love watching Shultz. I can't believe people actually like this....

taxed

Quote from: Krell Kneen the Bird Strangler on March 07, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
I love watching Shultz. I can't believe people actually like this....

Him and Lawrence O'Donnel... and Maddow...   I mean, they are just impossible for me to sit through.
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